I'd like to say it was fun, but I can't.
>Slow as shit even on new devices
>Endless bloatware
>Woefully inconsistent app designs (that look like shit)
>Waiting for carrier for updates updates (that contain nothing new at all)
>Felt more like a shitty Linux distro on a tiny screen than an actual solid phone
>Google account
>>54131133
Enjoy your deprecated piece of metal in two years after Apple's ''Updates'' kick in.
>>54131133
Lel
iToddler thinks his toy phone with Fisher Price OS is relevant
Meanwhile I'll be running Debian on my phone.
You can go back to browsing Facebook by all means, just don't come back here, your kind of kiddies aren't welcome, this place is for technology enthusiasts
>>54131244
>Meanwhile I'll be running Debian on my phone.
What's the advantage of this?
>>54131244
Top kek
>>54131250
It's Debian, so all the great programs from repos.
>Need to download a YouTube video?
youtube-dl
>need to quickly rip out sound from a video file?
ffmpeg
>need to program on the go?
gcc
Vim
nano
It can even run a traditional desktop. Pic related, lxde running on my phone
Even if there are no advantages, it's a cool and nifty thing to have, plus it has a lot of scope for tinkering
>>54131244
>aptitude means I have Debian on my phone
It's still the exploitable swiss-cheese Android OS brah.
>>54131250
>What's the advantage of this?
Running programs on your toy computer that can actually do useful things.
>>54131244
Not defending the macfag or anything but you seem to be confusing your phablet with a computer.
>>54131133
I haven't been in on the phone game since like 2011, when I bought mine and was researching which to use...
But I thought Android was the free man's phone OS, with minimal spyware and smooth running and all that. I remember /g/entlemen praising it as the Apple Killer™ and the best in all ways. I might've gotten memed or am remembering wrong but I think that was the general consensus.
Did everything change over the last -- oh god -- 5 years?
>>54131284
>Programming with a touch screen keyboard
>>54131244
Is this satire or not? I can't even tell anymore.
>>54131304
Oh it's definitely gotten loads better, but minimal spyware and smooth running are still yet to come.
>>54131304
>But I thought Android was the free man's phone OS, with minimal spyware and smooth running and all that
>>54131342
>Not to mention I can not native Debian too
I know, that's why you need a fucking chroot just to get a real OS on your toy computer.
>>54131290
Like I said, technology isn't your cup of tea
Go past about how much you like the new iPhone™ and how thin it is
Not to mention I can run native Debian too
>>54131300
Not really, it's just a hobby thing, I don't use it for anything, is just a proof that I can do it
>>54131305
USB OTG nigga, supports mouses, keyboards, gamepads, even this fucking usbasp in pic related
>>54131309
Why would it be satire?
>John Carmack, the id Software co-founder who essentially created the modern first-person shooter genre from scratch, has once again said that the iOS platform is the best mobile platform out there when it comes to game development. He said as much last year at QuakeCon, but here we are one year later and iOS is still king. Sorry, Fandroids.
>The reasons for the superiority are largely the same as they were last year: Android is far too fragmented to develop for, both from a hardware and software point of view. How many Android devices out there still don’t have Froyo? Mine doesn’t! (It’s the Samsung Fascinate on Verizon Wireless, by the way.) And how many different hardware configurations are there between the various HTC, Motorola, Samsung, etc. devices?
>flagship android phone not getting software support
>meanwhile iphone is one unified platform, all updated
>the reason is largely the same as it was before
>android doesn't learn from it's mistakes
written in 2011, reads like it could have been written yesterday.
http://techcrunch.com/2011/04/15/john-carmack-ios-still-better-than-android-for-mobile-game-development/
>>54131353
>>54131346
c-circa 2011 things were d-different, right?
>>54131364
Not him, but I wanted to be able to ssh into my phone, all I had to do was open a terminal and configure ssh, easy.
Now I can ssh into my phone.
>>54131364
Lel forgot pic
>>54131369
Back to >>>/v/ vermin
>>54131133
>I'm too fucking dumb to use it properly, and it's the OS' fault
Get an iPhone, I heard they Just Werk(tm)
>>54131369
>Fandroids
Nope it definitely reads like 2011
>>54131412
>you use a phone that you have to manage properly
i think you're missing the whole point of computers, dude.
>>54131425
I think you're forgetting the whole point of being a technology enthusiast
Not like iToddler actually care about tech anyway
>>54131418
>fandroid getting butthurt because of his inferiority complex
no u read like 2011
>Slow as shit even on new devices
No
>Endless bloatware
Not with every manufacturer
>Woefully inconsistent app designs (that look like shit)
Irrelevant, as long as they werk
>Waiting for carrier for updates updates (that contain nothing new at all)
Lol american problems. Never buy carrier locked phones.
>Felt more like a shitty Linux distro on a tiny screen than an actual solid phone
Nope
>Google account
vs. Apple account? You don't need one anyway
>>54131441
ah, right. you're the enthusiast. i actually advance technology.
>>54131441
Technology is meant to help people make their lives better, not turn them into an autist.
>>54131375
Android is the best man. iOS is fucking shit.
>>54131369
>Article is essentially saying Android is the PC of the phone market and Apple is consoles.
Well that only helps solidify my choice then. Console babbies BTFO once again.
>>54131453
>You don't need one anyway
>>54131459
Using drag drop ide to make shitty js websites at Starbucks isn't "advancing" you know
>>54131284
Why would anyone do this on a fucking phone? There are actual computers for this sort of shit.
>>54131471
>hurr the insight of john carmack is beneath my consideration
butt-busted toddlers BTFO once again.
>>54131442
But I have an iPhone?? I was just pointing out the lame outdated name-calling that even I wouldn't use.
>>54131369
>John Carmack
>relevant
lol
>>54131487
i have a Ph.D. in Combinatronics from MIT, and I have worked at SpaceX for seven years.
>>54131480
I meant that you don't need a Google account to use the phone. Some people actually don't have any Google apps on their (custom rom) phones.
I don't know if you can use an iPhone without having an Apple account, sorry if that confused you
>>54131495
Your phone is a computer too, and quite a powerful one at that
I just like the idea of having a highly capable computer in my pocket, so to make it more useful I installed a Debian chroot
>>54131364
>>54131364
Not OP but seriously man...
It's a fucking mobile phone, you use it to call people.
I can program a 25mb command line OS, and patch/repair pretty much any object oriented language; but I use iPhone. That's all I'll say to defend OPs post.
Good lord m8, I almost hope you get into a life threatening emergency to where you are comatose or dissociative from your environment to where you can't answer your name or address to people so they are forced to open your debian phone to dial emergency services.
I can't wait until they appreciate how 1337 you are trying to do that.
I get it's a hobby, I get how fun that can be; but don't go and bash someone making a very logical decision for a very specific component of their life with what would seem clearly defined paramaters for acceptability.
Dumbass.
>>54131412
Computers aren't supposed to be a chore to use mate
>>54131453
>Irrelevant, as long as they werk
Freetard logic that gives us abominations like GIMP
>>54131480
Technically he's right. You only need one to download apps from Google Play. If you sideload everything or some alternative app store like F-Droid you can use it with no Google account.
>>54131528
oh yeah, a stock android phone with no apps installed is super useful to me, and most other people. i'd just love to try to set up wifi (my home wifi has a 100 character randomly generated password) without installing my password manager app from the app store.
protip: you're a fuckface.
>>54131545
If you love them, you'll love them even more when they're a chore, since you get to fix them and operate on them like a mad scientist
>>54131542
It's Android mate, I just run Debian in chroot for stuff that I need which Android doesn't have
What, do you think I use my phone exclusively as a desktop? Don't kid yourself bro, nobody wants to use a desktop OS on a 5' screen without mouse and keyboard
>>54131569
>my home wifi has a 100 character randomly generated password
Autistic edge case
>>54131540
It's a phone. I need that to make phone calls and to be available for other people. Using that device to tinker around with useless shit would be like using my tooth brush to scrub the floor.
>>54131569
You're confusing having a google account and google apps with the ability to install apps on the phone. There's literally nothing stopping you from installing third party apps outside the Play store. F-Droid and Aptoide are things that exist.
And to top it all off, you're calling me a fuckface? That's just precious.
>>54131569
Faggot there are FOSS alternatives for all Google applications
>>54131593
try living in an urban area and working at a *Great* paying job at a company with NDA's, and international corporate espionage as a constant issue.
>>54131570
*itps fedora*
>>54131594
Holy shit just how unmotivated are you towards tinkering? Why would you hate it so much?
>>54131133
The Moto G would like a word
>>54131591
That's all good, well, and like....your agenda man.
My post while containing a myriad of details and a tangent regarding my shitty subjective opinion was merely remarking on the fact to not bash someone elses agenda, especially if their agenda doesn't meet your parameters for acceptability. It makes anyone look like an ass, and since you seem like you can code and seem to be a rational human being; I'd like to share that I'd rather unite people not divide them with technology.
>>54131604
Like I said, autistic edge case.
>>54131610
I'm not an insane person. I buy stuff for that purpose, as I work and have responsibilities. I don't use the stuff I depend on for my hobbies. Not that I find the idea that you can indeed install random software on random hardware if you take the time interesting. Seriously, what is so surprising about that for you guys?
>Sorry that you couldn't reach me, but I had to flash my phone, because I had some issues with Debian
Nah, that's not a problem I need. I guess there's no phone reception in your mom's basement, so you don't need to worry about that anyway.
>>54131621
So would my 150$ Chinese smartphone.
It came with 5.1. Honestly I'm getting tired now, there are security updates every month
>>54131660
>>54131660
>>54131660
>>54131660
this
/thread
>>54131627
>>54131542
Here
>>54131664
when you have a shitload of security patches always coming out, isn't that a sign that the underlying system is of a flawed design?
>>54131284
>It's Debian, so all the great programs from repos.
>>54131679
Hundreds of security flaws are discovered every week
It could be that they're fixing everything just as they get informed about an exploit
>>54131660
Why are you even on /g/ if you're not a nerd who like tinkering ?
>>54131693
>I buy stuff for that purpose
Read
>>54131693
This post is so fucking cringey
>>54131693
It doesn't come down to that, it comes down to not using a life-component of dependency as a hobby that could assert a grievous issue of reliance in a time of need which is very possible and why I stopped using android in high school.
You need a fucking raspberry pi(s) or something nigger
>>54131675
Here
>>54131692
Dr. Leslie Lamport would like to have a word with you about software correctness.
>>54131710
Well but it is true
>>54131709
Yeah, a lot of hardware hackers do too, what's exactly wrong with this?
>>54131664
What phone senpai?
I only bought the Moto G because I got it in 2 hours with Amazon Prime Now
>>54131749
Using it as a phone.
Holy shit, is this really that fucking hard?
I have four bridged raspberry pis, I program in three languages; and run my own personal blade server(10krpm HDDs, I'm not a rich nigger) for fucking tinkering.
I don't like tinkering because I'm not putting myself in a variable juxtaposition of failure for lolhobby purposes on my fucking personal phone?
>>54131770
Lenovo K3 note
Great for the price, that's for sure
>>54131801
Ah yeah I know someone who has one. It wasn't bad at all when I had a go.
I still don't trust the chinks, including Lenovo
(I know Motorola is owned by Lenovo now)
>a life-component of dependency
>>54131133
That's fucking beautiful
>>54131570
Holy shit
>>54131876
Get hit by a car
Your mom passed and you've actually moved out so phones are necessary to communicate(Especially if you're anti-social media).
Your house is burning down.
(1950s PSA accent)
"WHAT DO -YOU- DO IN THIS SITUATION?"
I'm getting pretty triggered at the lack of context clue comprehension. Do people think addressing directly to a point or recognizing literary elements to receive a conveying message easier gives them cancer or gets them raped or something? Then again, this is 4chan /g/ I shouldn't even be giving these replies the luxury of a well thought out position.
>>54131876
anyone who thinks you dont need a phone to have a life doesnt have a job
>>54131925
You don't need a smartphone to live. There are cellphones that aren't "smart" if you're so concerned about having a 911 device on you at all times. If you're ever robbed, I can ensure you a gun will be more useful than your smartphone. In case of a fire, well-placed fire alarms will be more useful than your smartphone. You can't defend that your life depends on your smartphone without sounding completely incompetent.
>>54131993
>he mentioned using a phone to call people so that must be the only function that matters to him
Can no longer tell if you're that desperate to come up with an argument or just stupid.
>>54131787
then just go buy a nokia you fucking dip. its infinitely more useful than a useless ishit
>>54131993
Right, but to address this completely negates the goal of "Having debian on my personal phone, if you don't tinker with your personal phone; you don't tinker....like those iphone buyers" in it's nature of agenda.
When you address that, you must understand how hilariously irrelevant all of the aforementioned becomes.
Other than that, I agree in situations where your life is in danger; we can cherry pick what I said all I want but you get the point....and so does this smart guy
>>54131959
Using your personal phone as a tinker toy and compromising it's reliance is a stupid and egregiously dumb idea, especially when you have anywhere near a product life and network of people.
But if you want to cherry pick more as if that helps convey the point do it properly. One situation doesn't negate the rest...if it came to that I'll post these:
Vehicle Breakdown
Witnessing a Violent Crime and getting ahold of dispatch when seconds count
But I think you get the idea and how it's a waste of time that doesn't negate it's legitimacy as an accessory in detail.
>>54131133
>carrier branded phone
Tha is not a mistake I will ever do again. Direct from maufacturer devices actully get updates on time. Still waiting on 6.0 for my device, when carrier free versons got it two months ago.
>>54131387
that looks like a fun little dev board. what's it called?
>>54133038
UltraAVR
Picked it off eBay for like 20$ a couple of years ago
It's pretty good
>>54131244
more like plebian
