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>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

-If you dislike a headphone suggestion, try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked instead of going "hurr, brand x sucks"

-If you see someone getting mad for no appearent reason, heavily shilling/bashing a brand/reviewer etc, just ignore it.

-Feel free to share your headphones/setup and talk from personal experience, but try to couple your subjective opinions with objective data if the discussion asks for it.

-Remeber, always ignore shitposting

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Link to old thread: >>54073762
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Anyone used these? The reviews are great, but the price seems too good to be true, even of they are five years old.
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>he spends 750 on cans
>recommends 598s
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>Budget- $50
>Location -USA
>Source - Sony Xperia Z3
>Preferred type of headphone -Earbuds
>Comfort level - Doesn't matter

I just want some good earbuds to work out with for under $50, I used the Monoprice earbuds for a long time and they were fine but I want to move on from those bulky things.
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Lol, this dude is mad it's fucking hilarious.
>>54095651
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>>54095474
Buy it. Just because it's so damn cheap.
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>>54095663
SoundMagic e10
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>Budget
Endgame.
>Location
America
>Source
Fiio e10k
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs.
Ones with cables that go over the ear and ones with cables that go down.

I'll be using the ones with cables that go down mostly in bed, so they need to be very comfortable with my head against the pillow.
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm/bassy
>Preferred music
Mostly just rock and anime/vocaloid stuff

I'm posting this again for more suggestions, only one person responded the last time.
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>>54095970
Still sticking with SE846/SE535 and IE800. Both fit with the warm/bassy signature.

Someone else said K3003 but it leans more on the bright side.
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>>54095970
Noble K10
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>>54095970
Could you just stop?
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>>54096015
I'm guessing you're recommending the IE800 because they are very small so they will be comfortable with my head against the pillow. What would you recommend for ones with cables that go down if that wasn't the case, I'm asking because in one of the previous threads someone said that the IE800 are pretty bad. I don't want to compromise too much on the sound quality for comfort.
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>>54096169
The SE846s form factor make it so you can lie on your side without it pushing in your ear.

>I'm asking because in one of the previous threads someone said that the IE800 are pretty bad.
It depends on what you're looking for. Audio is a mostly subjective topic. You want bass, the IE800 have bass.
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>>54096199
Thanks.
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>>54095970
Apple earpods x3
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>>54095663
>>54095895
Save a little more and get the SoundMagic Pl50.

Mostly because they are super comfortable and lightweight, because the shape you can sleep while listening to them without any uncomfortable pain and because how lightweight they are and the pretty good noise cancellation you can get from the stock tips you will often forget they are even inside your ears.

I've destroyed two because when I bring them into the gym I forget I'm using them and they get caught on the barbell.
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>>54096540
>noise cancellation you can get from the stock tips
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I want to buy the F703 SENNHEISER x FREITAG
Do you think it is a good deal ?
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>>54095895
Misspelled piston 3
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>>54095363

About to buy, talk me out of it
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Sensitiser hd25 or audeze el8
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>>54097042
el8 never
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>>54097039
Paying for the brand, not quality.
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>>54097039
Literally mud in the ear
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>>54097039
The PM3 is way better for about the same price.
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>>54097031
No, I did not. I'd rather not play knock-off lottery and don't suggest it to anyone else either.
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will the velour earpads really make much of a difference on my DT770s with stock pleather pads?
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>>54097218
>he bought the 32ohm model
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>>54097239
well, yeah, they were on sale
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>>54097039
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>>54095363
>gigabyte motherboard specifically comes with isolated rear audio
>still crackly, whereas the front audio is completely silent
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>>54097268

bro, the 80 ohm is only 20$ more, and the 250 ohm is only 18$ more.
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>>54097373
why would I want higher resistance? I use them with my phone so it's better for me
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>>54097381
all 32ohm beyers are garbage, 80ohm will go fine from your phone. higher impedance is an easier load on the amp anyway
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>>54097398
>all 32ohm beyers are garbage
...alright but why
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>>54097417
just a cheap compromise model to desperately access a demographic. their headphones have always been a base 250ohm.
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>>54097398
>>54097429
32 Ohm versions being garbage is an audiophile meme. There seem to be some differences in frequency response but they are minimal and not objectively better or worse than the higher impedance versions. 32 Ohm is fine if you need those headphones for mobile use.
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>>54097429
that still doesn't tell me anything
they look, sound, and work fine for me

>>54097442
I thought it was a meme, it doesn't even matter if I'm fine with them
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>>54097452
>trusting the opinion of somebody who can't afford good headphones
i mean it's obviously you're having post purchase rationalization but you still shouldn't stoop that low.
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>>54097471
You have no argument.
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>>54097477
i'm not arguing? you fucked up by buying the 32ohm model, it's pretty simple.
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Does anyone else have static with piston 3? Tried it with S6, honor 7, PC and iphone 5 and only the iphone didn't have it.
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>>54097482
they say when you've dug yourself into a hole, you should stop digging
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>>54097502
probably time you take your own advise then because frankly i'm embarrassed for you.
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>>54097499
Do you experience that static with other headsets? No the xiaomi come close to the HD800 and should not have static.
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>>54097520
DT770 32ohm works well without static on all of them.
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what do you guys think of the momentum over ear? found it for 230 aud and am of buying it.
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>>54097540
Well then thought might have a shitty source because the Xiaomi pistons are more revealing than the DT770.
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>>54097482
I'm not the one who bought those and you have no argument as of why the 32 Ohm model is supposedly shit. You just repeat they are shit.
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>>54097564
>i don't believe you therefore they're good
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>>54097560
yeah probably
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>>54097542
momentum1 or momentum2.0?
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>>54097591
1

2.0 costs like 500 aud, and doesn't look like it's worth paying double for.
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>>54097600
then msr7>mudmentum1 over ears.
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>>54097581
Lol fuck off already. If you positively think they are bad or even worse than the other impedance versions, please tell us why. I read the same shit everywhere about the low impedance Beyers but I never see any reasoning for this.
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>>54097542
price match msr7 from wireless1 nsw
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>>54097620
yes i'm sure you don't understand a lot of things, tends to happen when you're inexperienced with the hobby.
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>>54097609
>>54097624
>mudmentum
is it too bass heavy or something? from what i've read online, they're meant to sound pretty good.

where exactly does the msr7 outperform the momentum?
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>>54097634
Hilarious. I'll try once more with you. What is the reason what makes them worse? A single reason. I'm sure you'll be able to provide some since you seem so confident that they are worse. Appealing to authority on an anonymous imageboard won't let you weasel out of this
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>>54097674
i think it matches the FR target much better
http://goldenears.net/board/5398387
http://goldenears.net/board/3317703
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudioTechnicaATHMSR7.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserMomentum.pdf
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>>54097722
what are you expecting as far as reasoning goes? i don't know the engineering error that resulted in them sounding bad. only beyer know that. same as them knowing why every tesla driver headphone sounds awful.
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>>54097039
nigger-tier
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>>54097674
oh yeah momentum sub bass extends more
get whatever you want but they have smaller pads
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I wish headphone companies would send out testers so I would know how they sound before buying them

that or some music store could let me demo them locally.

I just want to know how the DT880/990/Open headphones sound compared to my 770s
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>>54097271
Story would have been better if he had actually said that to the guy. I mean obviously he would be an arsehole for not just saying "I prefer how my headphones sound." but still, funnier.
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>>54097311
This is why you buy a motherboard with optical out and send that to your DAC.
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>>54097763
dt 880 will be flatter
dt 990 will be slightly less v shaped but still harsh-ish treble and less bass definition
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>>54095363

For gaming stuff:

Cloud 2 (New Cloud is kek)
Sennheiser 350SE (Discontinued)

Closed:

M50x (standard issue /r/headphones set)
ATH-MSR7

Open
Beyerdynamic 880 (990 if you want funphones)
Sennheiser 600
Sennheiser 598

If you're going for beyer 880/990 get the 600ohm and get yourself an AMP/DAC combo.

If US, get the Schiit-stack 2 (Modi 2 + Magni 2)

Don't be afraid to go for SMSL if you're poor.

If you really don't want to go for 600ohm, go for 250 and get a Fiio Amp/Dac integrated combo.

My setup:

HIFIMAN HE-500 (with Alpha Pads and bestintheverse cables)

Schiit Modi 2 + Schiit Magni 2.
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>>54098162
Agreed. I've had both 600ohm.

You do get used to the fucking ear-piercing treble after some time doe.
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>>54098225
Please stop.

You aren't doing yourself any favours by looking like a retard. Just delete the post and you won't be made to feel ashamed of your idiocy.
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>>54098241
How come?
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>Budget
<$500
>Location
Australia

This will be my first pair of headphones, I typically listen to electronic music and really like bass. I'd prefer a pair that cup over the ear comfortably. Sorry for being new.
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>>54098268
>Mentioning headsets like they aren't all as bad as each other
>2-3 headphones are all anybody ever needs!
>1 headphone amp and DAC is all that is good!
>If you don't want 600ohm
>"A" Fiio amp/dac
>My setup for no reason

shit blog, even more useless information resource
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>>54098373
>sorry for being new

That's no excuse for not reading the OP

>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

Got nothing against your request, but please read the pertinent information and then post.
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>>54098377
k
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>>54098386
>Source
My computer.
>Preferred type?
I prefer full-sized.
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
I'd prefer quality over comfort.

Is that better? I've never owned headphones before.
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>>54098428
You forgot preferred music. Without that we're flying blind on what type of sound signature you might like and suggest something conservative like Sennheiser HD600.
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>>54098428
Open headphones for EDM where bass quality doesn't matter as much as bass quantity? Then something like the fidelio x2.

If you don't listen exclusively to EDM there are better options for the price bracket.
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>>54098474

He said in his first post EDM, hence the fidelio recommendation.

If it's not his only listening then there are definitely better options yes.
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>>54098412
You really still don't get it?

Try reading the thread, there are discussions at every price point for different kinds of headphones that produce different sound signatures that please different people.

Your blog post covers none of the nuance or intricacy of the hobby and just recommends what you've owned in the past.

Fuck off.
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I want to buy new earphones, any recommendations?

>around $50
>preferably from amazon
>in-ear type earbuds
>preferably comfy
>want all tones to be pretty good
>previously used sony xperia z5 factory headphones
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>>54098489
>He said in his first post EDM
Ah. I missed it. I tend to stop reading after I see it's a purchase advice request without filling out the form.
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>>54098474
>>54098477
>>54098489
I listen to other genres too like rap and other lyric-heavy content. I like artists like Sufjan Stevens and fun, for example.
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>>54097736
Something that would show they are worse in any way. Measurements, consistent feedback of poor build etc. Impedance doesn't have any direct effect on the sound signature. Measurements I've seen all show headphone which is very consistent with the other impedance versions and nothing that clearly show the 32 Ohm version being worse. IF has the 32 Ohm version measured and that model had a slight channel imbalance in the upper mids, hardly something to be generalized as a problem on all of the 32 Ohm versions.

Sounding bad is subjective. Tesla models measure quite poorly but some people might still like them.
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>IEMs making that fuzzy farty sound yet again in my ear drum when you insert them in deep
>that satisfying feel when you tweeze out another pet hair stuck deep in your ear canal
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>>54098497
I don't know what you're on about dude, I posted different sound signatures (v, flat, analytical etc.) I don't get why you're so upset dude. But it's fine, treat me like a newbie so that it makes you feel more superior somehow, cheers.
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>>54096908
youre a retard the pl50 comes with lot of different tips and foams if thoese arent good you can use the sony one they fit right
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>>54098522
Then you should probably consider akg k702, beyerdynamic dt880, and sennheiser hd600.

If you can't audition them then it will come down to what you want your treble to sound like.

HD600 will be the smoothest (read: least treble peaks), dt880 will have slightly more treble, and k702 will have the most of those 3 but still not harsh.

If you don't know what treble is think cymbals on a drumkit and their volume in the mix.
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>>54098707
>post crap guide
>get called on how little information it has
>what's your problem dude?

Nothing. You are the problem shitting up the thread.
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>>54098735
I'll look into these, anon. Thank you a lot.
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does beyerdynamic repair hp with a cable defect?

purchased some mmx300 last year
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>>54098777
Nice trips. Why don't you try contacting them? I've contacted Grado to fix my SR60 but my warranty was up and they told me to buy another one so I said fuck it and I bought something else.
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>>54098828
>Nice trips. Why don't you try contacting them? I've contacted Grado to fix my SR60 but my warranty was up and they told me to buy another one so I said fuck it and I bought something else.

Why wouldn't they just charge you for the repairs? Doesn't seem like sound customer service strategy, but then neither does selling grados.
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>>54098742
Do the fucking research yourself then, I'm not a wiki.
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>>54098871
I wonder if perhaps the repairs would have cost more than a new pair of sr60i.
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>>54098876
That would only apply if the information you gave was detailed, complete, or otherwise useful.

How did you get to "I'm not a wiki" from "Stop posting useless shit"?
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>>54098906
What was wrong with them? If that was the case they would have specified it as the cause of their recommendation. If they didn't there's a good chance it's just company policy to recommend new headphones to people out of warranty.
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>>54098871
Because I live far away and buying another one is cheaper.
>>54098923
I needed a new SR60 cable. And those are expensive like for example a 3.5mm to 1/4" adapter is hella expensive.
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>>54098942
I meant extension cable from grado. 3.5mm adapter is actually cheap and I got that mistaken. Wrong price.
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>>54098959
Sounds like the kind of thing any electrician could do for you as long as they have working hands and eyes.

>muh audiophile cables

Yea no.
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>>54098913
I don't know what you're rambling about lurker in head-fi for some time, and I don't care about your opinion. bb bby.
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>>54098980
>Hey guys here's this great guide
>But it's useless and has no information
>I don't care what you think!

Convincing reply.
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>>54098828
>. Why don't you try contacting them
i did, bought it from amazon, warranty from that is gone but allegedly i've got 5 years warranty from beyerdynamic, i've read somewhere dunno
they do charge 30 bucks for a repair so i might just do that
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>taste in sound signatures
This meme has to end
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>>54099706
What a shitty reaction image.
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>>54099706
I agree.
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>>54099706
No really. Some people don't care if the bass obscures the rest of their song, just like some people like it when brass and strings sound like a cat on a tin roof.
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>>54096993
I want some too, but I'm worried I might be paying for looks.
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>>54099706
Yes.
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haven't really found any alternative to koss porta pro, all others just sound too dull
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>>54099706
>everyone likes the same music I do
>everyone has the same hearing range in high and low frequencies as I do
>anyone who disagrees with me is trying to force a meme
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>>54099865
>everyone likes the same music I do
irrelevant
>everyone has the same hearing range in high and low frequencies as I do
differences in hearing only affect high frequencies in limited amount

>listening to your gear
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>>54099883
>irrelevant
Because EDM has the emphasis of a wide range of tonalities and harmo-
Oh give it up. You aren't fooling anyone with your stupid pseudo trolling.
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just purchased audeze lcd 2's

how bad did i fuck up
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>>54099901
It sure fills out the entire audible spectrum a lot of times unlike many other genres.
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>>54100028
If the graphs are anything to go buy expect some rolled off treble. Other than that you're fine. Enjoy your headphones and make sure to come back with some impressions. Would love to hear what they actually sound like.
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Does anyone know of a good amp and dac combo for hd 598's?
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>>54100144
go by*

Fuck me I must have had too much coffee.
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>>54095363
ayyye whatup /hpg/. I rarely see them being discussed, but I'm looking for some noise cancelling headphones. Are there any /hpg/ approved products in this category?
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>>54100164
>Budget
200 eurobucks
>Location
Yurop
>Source
Nexus 5X
>Preferred type of headphone
Circumaural
>Open or closed
No particular preference
>Comfort level
Maximum
>Preferred tonal balance
Slightly more on the bassy side
>Preferred music
String based OST's, DNB, hiphop
>Past headphones
Shure SE215, Beyerdynamic DT990
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>>54100164
>>54100200
Kudos on realising your mistake and reading the OP.

Noise cancellation is best against constant noise, not traffic and people afaik, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. If you're using something for the commute to work or in a library your best bet is probably closed or IEM.

If not audio technica anc series and sennheiser px series. Though from what I've heard the sound quality is balls.
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Just bought Audio-Technica ATH-PRO5MK2

Not quite sure how to feel.
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>>54100200
>>54100297
I figured as much, my office is fairly noisy and I oft suffer from fatique when I have IEM's in for more than an hour or so.

I did notice that most of the reviews for the ANC Audio Technica's are very middling EXCEPT, the ANC 9's which are better on most accounts.

So far I'm seeing some very expensive Bose's and that's about it so far.

Are there any brands I may have overlooked?
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>>54100164
>>54100200
Passive noise isolation covers pretty much the same function as active noise cancellation but without the added hardware, microphones, and batteries. In other words, get a good isolating pair of closed cans.
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>>54100336
Sennheiser momentum wireless apparently have noise cancellation

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserMomentumWirelessWiredPassive.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserMomentumWirelessWiredActive.pdf

Looks like the noise cancellation fucks the sound in them though, and they're already wireless.

If you're looking for something to use in your office you're probably better off with closed headphones.

>200 yurops
ATH-MSR7
Beyer 100/150/250
AKG K550
sennheiser hd280 momentum/2
shure srh840/940
I can't comment on fostex, oppo or NAD but they're probably worth looking into as well.
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>>54100453
Ah here's some names I can look into, thanks a bundle.
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>>54095363
Only reason I haven't bought DT 770s is because of no detachable cable. And I don't trust myself to mod them.
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>>54095630
as Hd650 owner and a HD598 owner, I can tell you they are both very good. One is a little better and requires a powerful amp tho.
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I don't intend to buy any headphones anytime soon, just browsing around for a different FR or a future upgrade.

>>Budget
300 to 800 USD

>Location
Australia

>Source
Might end up buying an AMP if required, I'll have to do it eventually. Currently using onboard audio which seems adequate for my current setup.

>Comfort level
Extremely comfy

>Tonal balance
Not 100% certain on this, but after fiddling with EQ figured I might like something more neutral for vocal heavy music.

Bass has to be present but not accentuated beyond mids.
I would prefer mids closer to neutral perhaps even a tad higher on the bright side.
Treble has to be clear and precise but not sibilant, a tad bright might not be bad so long as it doesn't go too far, don't want it sounding thin.
Very wide soundstage

>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear (very important), and Open

Detachable cable (very important), I'd prefer it to be 3.5mm, I could try to purchase an extra propriety cable if worse comes to worst and mod them with a 3.5mm jack.

>Preferred music
BGM soundtracks, symphonic metal, some classical. Mostly female lead metal at the moment. Might get more into jazz, bossa nova, and some weeb music later on.

>Past headphones
Phillips fidelio X2

I like my X2s, but after playing a little with the EQ to try a brighter sound signature I noticed the treble to be fairly grainy, and yes I did apply more than enough preamp to ensure I am not applying any positive gain.
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>>54098152
this, only a fool would connect their dac via USB
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>>54098735
the HD650 has a little more detail in the highs and more extension in the bass in comparison to he HD600. I dont see why everyone recommends the 600, is it due to the price alone? Because theyre pretty much the same price right now.
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>>54095363
Audio-Technica ATH-M50X
Was £139.00
Now £115.89

Sennheiser HD280pro
Was £140.57
Now £86.16

Which are better? Are the M50s £30 better?
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>>54100028
fazor or non
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>>54100556
M40x+HM5 pads

>>54100632
HE-400i
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>>54100632
HD600 or 650.

I've been seeing some HD800 going for under $800 now that the HD800S is out. Which if you want good treble and soundstage, the HD800 is definitely for you.
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>>54100689
>the HD800 is definitely for you.
>Treble has to be clear and precise but not sibilant
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>>54100556
Check out the 100/150/250 in that case.

I had the 150's and they were beautiful. Only weakness is the way they look when on your head.
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>>54100677
>>54100689
Thanks for the feedback, planar magnetic drivers sound interesting I'll do some reading on the HE400i and 650.

The HD800 could work if I EQ the treble down, but I'd rather not fuck with the EQ unless I get a sweet deal on them.
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>>54100647
They're $100 more in Australia. That said his budget still covers them at $425. You're exactly right, he should look at the hd650.
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>>54100661
I had m50x's and beyerdynamic dt150's.

I never used the m50's because they just didn't match up, but were only $50 cheaper.

You can do much better than m50's, they really are a meme at this point.
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>>54100632
Like the other anon said you might look at the he-400i.

Another option is sennheiser HD700, have heard they have great bass but not the sibilant highs of the hd800, but /hpg/ usually memes the shit out of anyone suggesting them if you do it during US day time.

Within your price bracket I would also check out sennheiser hd650, hifiman he-400s, Beyer T90/dt880(600ohm), AKG K712/k702/q702/k7xx, shure srh1440/1840, Audio-technica ath-r70x/ad1000x/ad2000x, and audioquest nighthawk.

If you're in melbourne head in to addictedtoaudio and see what you can audition.
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>>54100829
mighty helpful, but I am in QLD there was one shop I found online somewhere in the city but they don't seem to have an extensive range of equipment to audition.
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>>54100865
http://www.innerfidelity.com/headphone-measurements

That might help. I'm shit out of luck living in NSW, there are like 3 stores near me and they all have shit brand selection and mostly deal in heavily coloured response hi-fi speakers.
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>>54100882
NSW, hmm I got my X2s from mindisc whch I think were based in NSW. There was also addicted to audio that seemed to have a more extensive collection.

Was aiming for the K7xx at the time after all the praise but couldn't be fucked waiting on massdrop and preferred to have a 3.5mm connector.

The best headphones I had before the X2s were porta pros so I know jack shit. Quite the step up though.

The X2s are very comfortable and sound great but I find them a bit heavy for prolonged use, looking back I think I would've been better off with the K7xx. Much lighter and those earpads are FUCKING HUGE, which would have been slightly better for my big ears. The headband band doesn't look as comfy as the X2s though.

K7xx would've cost just a tad more than the X2s when including the price of a $100 amp to drive them.
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>>54100774
Thanks. Good price, but seems like I'd need an amp, correct?
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Is it worth paying £4 to go from 80ohm to 250?
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>>54101180
It would be a good idea yes.

If you have the money look at the dt250, from measurements they look like they have even better bass response than the dt150 which are already awesome.
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>>54101235
Which headphones? Beyerdynamic dt770 I'm assuming?

Can't say for sure as I haven't even heard them, but if they're anything like the dt880 then yes.
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>http://cascadia-audio.com/product/talos/
>mfw another t50 mod is released, this time out of the cesspool that is /r/headphones

Fucking hell. What's it with subjective audiophools thinking they can beat PhDs with access to high-end HATS systems and tools like Klippel analyzers with some foam and cotton they arbitrarily apply by hand.
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>>54101851
This is the same group of people that will rant and rave about their $7,500 placebo cables.

You can't stop them being retarded, you can just choose not to join in.
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>>54101896
/r/headphones like a trainwreck I can't turn away from because there are some very good posts by technically-inclined users. A user there had a point when he said that all this circlejerking over primitive gear by the larger community is only going to slow down the introduction of the real good stuff like binaural synthesis with head-tracking. Now they are claiming EQ is not good because it can't fix >muh ringing.
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>>54100661
How much for DT250? is better than both.
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>>54102003
There are always entry level faggots claiming nonsensical bullshit to rationalise their cheapskate purchases. It doesn't matter though, eventually the sheep stop following the few dedicated dissonant thinkers.
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>>54101235
No unless you have an amplifier and in which case you just have nicer room for volume adjustment for the higher impedance version, nothing else.
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>Budget
Under $30. No matter how much I spend they always break in under a year so I can't be arsed to spend much right now.
>Location
US
>Source
HTC One M8
>Preferred Type
IEMs
>Comfort Level
Doesn't really matter, but comfy would be nice
>Tonal Balance
Neutral. I listen to most everything.
>Past Headphones
My PortaPros and Sennheiser CX-300-IIs both broke this month. Sending the PortaPros back for replacement but I'm out of warranty on the Sennheisers. I don't have very high headphone standards, honestly.
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>>54102105
lg quadbeat 3 akg
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guys which is more synergy
HE400s--->Mojo
or
DT700 PRO 250ohm -->Mojo
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>>54102086
Okay so somehow you know the output impedance of his source and how much power and gain it provides?

Get fucked.
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>>54102105
Forgot to mention no microphonics is a must. I'm using a shitty backup pair right now and every time I twitch it creates the loudest headache inducing noise.

>>54102138
These look pretty nice
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>>54102059

I would actually say it is a small group of dedicated elitist and ignorant subjectivists that make shit up that has no apparent scientific basis.
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>>54102159
ESL?

Considering you've listed a closed and an open pair you're essentially asking whether your amp will drive them. I think you mean you have a chord mojo in which case lol placebo, but that would also mean it could probably drive either of those. If your question is about which will sound better then the answer is probably the he-400s, but the beyers will probably have more bass.
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>>54102160
I don't.

However, given the sensitivity of the 250 Ohm impedance version relative to the output power of most consumer electronics it's likely that anon needs some amplification to get enough volume with the higher impedance model. As anon didn't state anything about an amplifier and was merely asking for advice for the headphones, I'm assuming he/she doesn't own an amp yet.

Output impedance might be a factor with headphones exhibiting large impedance swing if you don't want to use an equalizer. DT770 80 Ohm doesn't have any meaningful impedance swing and would work fine even from sources over 100 Ohm Zout.

Back to you.
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>>54102197
Yeah entry level in other words. You can spend thousands and still not know what the fuck you're talking about. Most reviewers are a prime example of this given the prose they use.
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>>54102263
>DT770 80 Ohm doesn't have any meaningful impedance swing

Where in his post did he specify dt770?
>Is it worth paying £4 to go from 80ohm to 250?

No really, am I missing an extension that adds things to peoples' posts that weren't there when they made them?
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>>54102306
Ah shit. Point still stands. DT 250 would be the only other option I could think of which is offered in those two impedance versions and it also has a really flat impedance.
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>>54102374
You're right I shouldn't be so confrontational when all you're doing is trying to help, regardless of your assumptions. Sorry.
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can anyone confirm these are worth the price?
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https://youtu.be/hKFLx4Lp5gA

>Shitdeze btfo
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>>54102887
>listening to them for the second time
>they can recognize the clamp, fit and material of the pads to identify what headphones they are
"blind test"
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>>54102887
I could write a novel about what's wrong with that test, but it's clearly meant for entertainment purposes, so I won't bother.
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>>54102982
You can try, we'll listen
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>>54103029
>we
you're on your own there, nobody else would take that video seriously.
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>>54102669
>the price
What price? 60-80 dollars is a steal unless you really want good bass.
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>>54103029
>"m50x cans we have here are one of the best closed earphones you can get for the price"
>no info on the participants except for their names
>only one minute of listening
>only one song (name not mentioned either)
>says they have been "asked to rate and comment on each [pair of headphones]" without specifying if the rating covers only the sound quality or the SQ+comfort
>says the music file is .flac as if it's something anyone should care about
>arbitrary, inflated rating system
>retard breaking the seal by wearing glasses that serve no purpose because he is fucking blindfolded
>at 7:55, the same retard compares the soundstage of the LCD-3 to "the grados"
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I buy? Yes?
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>>54103339
Price? But yeah, it's a good headphone.
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>>54103264
that's what I'm saying. They're so cheap, I wasn't sure if it was just a gimmick or really as good as people say they are
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>>54103339
If you want hollow mids and shrilly highs, go ahead.
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>>54103371
Midrange is impeccable, highs are great, although it lacks body and lowend. Doesn't hurt to try it if you can get it at 60 bucks.
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>>54103339
I have a mild urge to buy a 600ohm dt880 and replace the driver in my dt880 pros and then sell the dt880 premium on craigslist. dt880 pros have better replaceable leatherette headbands. dt880 premiums have to cut the headband with scissors and replace with a pro headband because that's the only thing Beyer sells in accessories shop.
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>>54103339
Yes, they're very balanced; the best headphones I've ever used. Do it.
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>>54103399
Yeah, I'll definitely try them. How's the comfort? I'm most likely to be wearing them for 5+ hours.
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>>54103339
I bought those a few days ago and they arrived yesterday, there's nothing wrong with them but they sound nearly exactly the same as my 702's so I ended up sending them back to amazon. I you own the 702's already or don't like the 702's then I wouldn't bother mate.
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>>54103463
Clamp in my opinion is very lacking, and that's a slight double edged sword in terms of comfort. It's DT880 premium light, and the pads are pretty good. The clamp is light as hell meaning that comfort is a strong point but I much prefer the HD600 in regards to clamp as it stays on your head should you move around and still is damn comfy.
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>>54097624
600$ for cans holy shit you need to be autist to buy headphones above 100$
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I have a set of Heir Audio 4.Ai's but one of the ear buds was broken by a dropped book. Got my tax return this week and it was enough for me to get it replaced. I'm happy that i'll have my gear up and running again in a week or two. In the meantime I'm back to using my M50's at home and a terrible pair of headphones called BoomPhones that my boss gave me a year ago at work.
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>>54103533
you just played yourself
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>>54103533
Bang & Olufsen headphones are shit. Why are they expensive anyways?
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>>54100762
The treble issue is exaggerated, my 800's sounds just fine stock. I did end up adding an SD mod later, but didn't notice a difference in treble so much as an overall reduction in harshness. EQ won't address the resonance, and as something that occurs at the end of the audio chain, no amount of tube amps or EQ will fix it.

>>54100829
Strange, I've only heard negative things about the 700's.

>>54102159
>all these memes
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>>54103586
Branding mostly, B&O is the Bose of high-end audio.
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>>54103339
I like it, but you will be fine with any of the big three, so if you preffer something else that's fine too since there are options.
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>>54103593
>EQ won't address the resonance, and as something that occurs at the end of the audio chain, no amount of tube amps or EQ will fix it.
can somebody just measure their EQ'd HD800 so we can put a stop to this stupidity perpetuated by CS/SBAF
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>>54103638
fwiw, i still EQ my 800's post-mod, it's something you're supposed to do regardless of headphone.
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>>54103741
>it's something you're 'supposed' to do
no
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Looking for some earphones/buds that won't fall out and are under £30 they have to be on amazon uk also

I mostly listen to metallica, taylor swift, mystery skulls and queen
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>>54103761
saved
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Any cheap headphone carrying case recommendations?

Need to be available on amazon.de
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I have Shure SE215 and Zero Audio Carbo Tenore, can you recommend an upgrade to these two?
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What stax should I buy? Budget 600
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>Budget
100 but i can probably stretch to 130cad
>Location
canada
>Source
ipod
>Preferred Type
full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort Level
somewhat comfy
>Preferred music
metalcore/trance
>Past Headphones
shitty iems
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>>54103969
the only system you can afford is the srs-2170
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Ello
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Ok really newbie question here.

Can a Fiio E10k drive dt990 (250Ohm) without a problem?

What about the HD650? (I'm guessing no on this one.)
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>>54103382
Just wake up did we? Time to shitpost on /g/.

Welcome to US day time. I'm out.
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>>54104242
It can.
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>>54104242
It can power DT 990, HD 650 and any good pair of headphones.
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Why is /hpg/ so shit today?
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I bought a steelseries siberia 150 about 2,5 months ago, it worked well until now. While playing it sometimes swaps the coming sound from the right speaker and vice versa, this is really annoying and i dont know what to do.
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>>54104309
too many redditors
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>>54103339
using them right now, they're great
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>Budget
15$, 15€
>Location
buying of ebay
>Source
nokia mobile phone
>Preferred type of headphone
in ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
medium to high, but the low price is more important
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral or bassy (again, low price is more important)
>Additional
I just need some in-ear headphones for daily usage, I'm looking for low price because usually some contact breaks in a couple of months
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>>54100632
K702/Q701: great mids, a bit lacking in the sub-bass area (but it's much more balanced than the X2), on the bright side but overall very good treble, with a huge soundstage and a lot of details. It benefits from a small amplification.

>>54103339
If bass is your priority, definitely yes, but get the 600 ohm version.
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>>54104242
dt990 250ohm are harder to drive than the hd650
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>>54104422

Monoprice 8320s. They're like $7 so buy two sets. If you're not a gorilla you won't break them because they have nice fabric covered cables.
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I only listen to music on my fairly average laptop. Will my fairly average integrated soundcard be good enough for $200 headphones to be worth it?

That is, will I actually be able to hear the difference?
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>>54104242
I've been using the FiiO E10 to drive the DT 880 250Ω and the HD 600 and I think it's fine.
It's loud enough at 2.5 out of 8 using low gain on the HD 600, the DT 880 requires a little more though.

By the way, I preffer the sound of the HD 600 over the DT 880. The only downside of the Sennheiser is that I find the "soundstage" to be thinner.
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>>54104318
buy new headphones
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>>54105985
Depends on the headphone and on the laptop, my laptop is pretty shitty soundwise (kept making a buzzy noise) so a dac was necessary, but even before the dac, getting a better headphone made a difference.
What headphone are you considering? I'll take it's something that doesn't require an amp.
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>>54105985
That depends more on what you had before than what you buy, assuming you buy good headphones this time round.

Shorter answer is yes you will get good sound, but no it won't be as good as good onboard which isn't as good as a sound card which isn't as good as an interface/external DAC.
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>>54106464
> I'll take it's something that doesn't require an amp
Yeah, probably due to my being a poorfag. Possibly DT770s. Pretty cheap so I'd be that bit closer to an amp or DAC.
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>Budget
400$
>Location
america
>Source
HP inspiron 13 + Audioengine D1 which also has pre amp
>Preferred type
Circumaural
>Open or Closed
open with a wide soundstage
>Comfort level
dont care too much and willing to mod
>preferred tonal balance
more or less neutral, but I do like bass. However, these will hopefully be a counter to my two already bass heavy cans so neutral would be nice.
>preferred music
hip hop, alternative, funk, some electronic
>past headphones
ATH m50 + great bass especially with the D1, fun to listen to, HM5 pads made them comfortable, great for hip hop
- vocals were eh, somewhat hollow, headband deteriorated, hm5 pads limited bass, a little grainy
HE 400S + awesome overall, super fast, very comfortable and light, tight, very resolving, great bass for open
- limited soundstage, kinda bulky
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>>54106637
also large soundstage is a must
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I'm using an O2 ODAC. Is it worth spending more on a better amp? I hear a lot of mixed opinions on this shit, some say it doesn't make much of a difference others say it's super important, which is it?
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>>54106683
depends on your actual headphones but o2 is a decent low - mid level amp
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>>54106683
O2 + ODAC are fully transparent. You don't get better sound quality by getting a more expensive amp. It might even get worse.
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>>54106637
ATH AD1000X
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I came across my old Philips HE591's a few days ago, and used them while I worked out and watched counter strike matches. The quality is pretty bad for music, which is kind of nice because it's just bad enough to muffle out all of the tongue-clicking and lip licking shit that the commentators can't seem to not do, and also offer significant enough lows for the gunshots to sound intense. Do headphones like this exist anymore?
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>>54106777
>ATH AD1000X
any insight into how it compares with 900x?
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>>54106823
copy pasta?
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>>54106831
Different driver, angled cups, more like the 2000 than the 900.
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>>54106897
AD900X also has angled drivers.
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So I bought the BeyerDynamics and I get good sound quality but they have a flat studio sound with no pounding bass.

I want pounding bass.

Would getting an amp give me the bass? Like beats level bass?
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>>54106999
No, an equalizer would.
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>>54106999
Which beyer did you got? EQ is your friend anyway, Anon.
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>>54106931
Read what was written again.
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>>54107051

The DT770 Pro 80 Ohm.

Is there some /g/ guide to equalizers?
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Amp: (soon) Eddie Current Black Widow 2
Dac: Violectric DAC V850, but i'll change it for and Yggdrasil later probably.

What headphone should I go with from these:

Sennheiser HD800S
EnigmaAcoustics Dharma D1000
Mr Speakers Ether C

I'm kind of a basshead. I owned a classic HD800 and liked the soundstage and clarity but not the lack of bass on it.
I liked the Denon AH-D2000 sound signature very much in the past, but it's not comparable to the hd800 clarity.
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>>54107114
my mistake, i should probably go get some sleep or something.
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>>54107135
>all those head-fi memes
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>>54107135
>Eddie Current Black Widow 2
All DACs same. What the point to shell 1k$+ on it? Except look.
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How well do X2's stay on your head? Could you move your head a lot (like headbanging) without them falling off?
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VersionTech KOTION EACH G2000 Professional Stereo Noise Isolation Gaming Headphones
these any good? I need a good under 50$ish set of durable gaming headset
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>>54107135
lol just give me your money anon, i'll spend it better than you ever could
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>>54107452
>Professional
>Gaming
Red flags galore.
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>>54107533
I just need something good and I trust /g/ more then amazon
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>>54107609
Fill out the purchasing advice form
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>>54107361
my head is small, they do slip if you are headbanging unless you have a large head and they fit in tight.
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>>54107131
>DT770 Pro
>flat studio sound
Get your ears tested. That's literally one of the most V-shaped headphones I've ever heard.
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>>54107131
no specific guides, but on the DT770 you might want just to EQ down the treble first and hear how it sounds.
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>>54107131
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Headphones#Equalizer_and_how_to_equalize_your_headphones
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>>54107259
Lol are you kidding?
How can you say such a thing have you never heard DACs?

I own an Odac next to the Violectric dac v850.
When compared, the violectric is much better - the soundstage is wider, the sound is fuller and the bass is more precise.
The detail is the same though, but everything else the Violectric is better.
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>>54107849
I can say it because I have master degree in system engeneering and I actually know how dacs work. It's funny how easy is to fuck audiophiles with nonsence.
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>>54106683
Yes.
Most people who say that there is not much difference are people who never heard high-end amps.


>>54106758
That's false.
You DO get better sound quality with better amps.
O2 is colored, it's not natural. (too bright and thin.)
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for her birthday
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>>54107987
You need to hear different DACs then and you'll believe me.

Some things can be measured, true. But not ALL things.
Can you measure soundstage?
Can you measure full or thin sound?
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>>54106683
I upgraded from a modi magni 1 to a Asgard 2 and bifrost multibit. The difference is subtle, but there is for sure a difference.
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