You have 1 millisecond to tell me why Arch is not the best GNU distro.
Shoot my time is up
>kde
BECAUSE I CANT INSTALL IT HOLY SHIT FUUUUUUUUCK
Earlier I booted it on USB via Linus Live Tool Creator and it worked, but then I messed up the install somehow ( I think when i wiped the USB instead of the Hard Drive)
Now I can't even fucking get it to boot back up in USB.
ALSO I DONT KNOW IF WHAT I USED WAS ARCHITECT OR JUST ARCH
I AM SO FRUSTRATED AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>54094156
I don't like to lie tho
Because Windows 7 is legitimately the best operating system made in the last 5 years and since I'm not a hipster shitter kid I don't feel the need to use anything else for validation purposes.
>>54094227
yes, being retarded is often frustrating
Arch+KDE as well, use KDE for regular use and awesome for working.
Because my time is valuable and Arch is a waste of it.
>>54094241
but windows 7 wasn't made in the last five years baka desu senpai
>>54094241
it was made in 2009 which is not the last five years.
>>54094156
>1 millisecond
I could have other distros running in that time, can't say the same about this meme OS.
Because Gentoo exists.
>>54094241
>go on /g/
>think "Wow, Windows 7 users AKA retards aren't out in full force today"
>see your post
Yeah fuck this place it's still full of retards.
>>54094227
use architect it's impossible to fuck up
KDE is so ugly mane. Why is the clock font so massive? Why are there two burger menu in opposite corners? Why do that when there is a start menu? What's with all the padding? I'm not an i3 person or anything like that, it just looks bad.
>>54095158
yet you're still here, what does that say about you?
>>54095649
You can configure everything about KDE. It only looks so bad because OP made it look bad.
>>54094156
It's b
>>54095649
>>54094156
Arch+KDE master race reporting in.
Gtk cucks bend over
>>54094156
>KDE
It's shit
Ubuntu with Unity is better
>>54096795
Topkek. How is your mouse scroll going?
>>54094722
meme os lol what do you use? Ubuntu?
>>54096817
It scrolls just fine
When I'm browsing I click the wheel (mouse 3) and use the scroll dialog, better than dragging the wheel
>>54094156
OP think is a cool guy cause say GNU instead Linux (it allways called Linux)
yeah yeah gnu = os linux kernell.
but if you say linux even my grand mom will undertand it. other ways you sound like a autistic retarded that dont whant to comunicate
OP is a fagot
>>54096886
>just fine
Sounded like a true cuckold.
>>54096950
*cringe*
>>54097075
Want more?
>>54094156
>1 millisecond
Something tells me you're not very confident about the quality of your distro.
But don't worry, I'm also an Arch user, Arch a best.
>>54094156
Cuck
>>54097252
>Some NEET basement dweller actually had the time to make this
>One more insecure cuck had saved this
>>54097252
I've been using Arch for more than 6 months now and the only way it gave me serious errors was because I fucked something up. What are all the people who complain about arch doing wrong?
>>54094156
>1235x953
nice VM faggot
>>54097327
>lying on internet
Arch shill please
>>54097345
Not everyone is a dumb faggot, newfag
>>54097356
>ur le too dumb for arch xD
>>54097345
>>54097345
Exactly, if you really know what the fuck you are doing there's no way you will fuck your computer in an extreme way
>>54097363
Probably you are. Prove me wrong if you can
>>54097252
Too true.
Mom had to cancel my meetings when pacman fucked up X
>>54094156
Inconsistent text sizes.
KDE A BEST
>>54097303
>Damage control hurr durr
You're butthurt because it's true.
>>54097584
That looks a lot like windows 10.
Because "best" is relative and can't be attributed to any one distribution.
>>54097708
You are just a plain idiot if you are denying me
>>54097721
>Implying winkek 10 will ever look as polished as KDE plasma 5.6
>>54094156
Pure arch is a meme
Any Arch based distro is pretty gud
Apricity OS Just works, has a lot of pretty cool shit and now let you choose between Cinamon or Gnome desktop
also, muh AUR
>>54094156
because Manjaro and Antergos exist.
>>54096920
... nigga what
>>54097765
You're funny kid.
>>54097825
le oldfag is mad xDD
Go back to bed grandpa lmao don't shit on your diaper on the process
>>54096920
huh? arch GNU doesn't include linux at all
http://www.archhurd.org/
>>54097252
I don't get this image.
I know it's a troll picture but it's not even close to accurate.
I've yet to have a major issue with arch that wasn't resolved with the wiki.
>>54097769
Care to explain why it's a meme?
>>54097840
>barely replying
>must be mad
You are not the brightest bulb on the christmas tree are you?
>>54094156
Because it's a broken piece of trash.
>>54097769
why do you idiots place the taskbar at the top?
it's not a mobile device and its not a mac (global menu, etc). not to mention it ruins slamming the corner to close/window menu.
at least on unity it makes a bit of sense as they try a global menu approach but everywhere else is just a me too kneejerk reaction.
fucking kids, users and many devs alike.
>>54097252
I've used Arch for some time and it really felt like a fucking job.
>>54096817
in soviet UNIX the keyboard is your mouse
>>54098435
You ask an interesting question. It's a matter of habit where you like to have your task bar, and I would argue there's no real difference between having it at the top or bottom (or even at the side, like some people have it). But if you shouldn't have it at the top, for the reason you stated, why does Gnome have it at the top? They state usability tests as an influence on the design of Gnome Shell, and I believe there must be another reason for that decision.
The only reason I can think of is, that with the task bar at the top, you have both task bar and window title bar at the top. All the readable information is at the top. This must be the explanation for putting the title bar at the top.
>>54098813
tfw when
>computer installs OS on you
seems possible in the not so distant future
>>54097584
>adnan
>>>/suicidebombing/
>Arch is love
>Arch is life
>>54094156
>GNU distro
holy shit the edge
>Install Arch
>put KDE on it
D E V I L L I S H
>>54099804
same here senpai
just got arch for pacman / AUR
>>54099267
>computer installs os on you
>not to distant future
its clear you don't use windows 8
>>54094156
most ganoo+loonics distros are pretty much the same. It's quite irrelevant to choose one over another, mainly being a matter of taste.
>>54099733
Dubs of truth
>>54094156
X is broken again :^)
>got arch
>haven't been on it in months
Been thinking about using it again. Hope it will work and update fine.
>>54094156
That's completely untrue. You can install Arch and not do any of that crap.
Also, the people depicted in this image are all losers.
>socialising on workdays
Yeah, no, your work probably isn't important. If it was important, you'd prepare for the next weekday, and on Sunday prepare for Monday.
>>54094156
Because windows 10 is more op
>>54094227
>I don't know if what I used was just Architect or Arch
Jesus Christ
>>54097407
You don't know what that means.
>>54096510
That's not default i3 though you retard
>>54098344
>want to hate on Arch
>post some obscure picture of some unclear problem that only a retard like myself would be able to accidentally recreate
>offer no explanation
>?????
>Profit!
>>54101277
he did a pacman -Syu and that happened, there was a thread yesterday
>>54101277
Someone installed Arch and never updated anything. When he finally ranpacman -Syueverything broke, just like you'd expect to happen.
His problem was really with the concept of a rolling release, not with Arch specifically.
it'-
Whats the advantage of Arch over Ubuntu?
>>54101449
AUR
>>54094156
look, it even has system settings. astonishing
>>54094227
pleb detected
just install an xwindow system
install a visual enviroment (mate, cinnamon etc)
install sound drivers and youve got the perfect os
>>54099307
Spotted the mentally unstable GNOME user
>>54099804
Arch BSD shill, please!
>>54094156
>systemd
I'm planning to move to Gentoo in the future.
>>54101449
>AUR
>up to date software and kernel
>no bloat that you have to remove yourself
>>54094156
About as stable as 10¢ bench
>>54094807
/thread
>>54094227
This site is +18
>>54094227
I can install Arch and I thought I was nearly tech-illiterate
>>54094156
Because arch...
>>54103691
To be fair, it might not be that anon's fault. I installed Arch just fine on my laptop but it wouldn't work at all on my desktop. Maybe his hardware is just incompatible.
>>54094156
How does everyone feel about Arch Hurd?
>>54103691
I come from the network side of things and I have trouble with this OS, but I keep coming back because it keeps defeating me.
Why can't I figure this out /g/?!
Because typing one command once a week to update,is too much of a bother for me
>>54104998
pamac
>>54094156
Because there's Fedora
>>54105004
Or Octopi.
>>54105239
Or discover
>>54104794
he formated his usb drive instead of the hard drive, hes clearly retarded
did somebody say christmas?
Only good for people that don't know cs but feel the need to be cool, because they think that shit is deep computer shit.
>>54094156
You have a self serving paradigm
>>54105251
That looks really nice. How is it?
>>54094156
The packages are buggy.
Community is smaller then other distros.
pacman a shit.
pacman -syu broke my system.
>>54105455
>pacman -syu broke my system
pacman -syu wouldn't do anything but update your repo list.
Also, you're a faggot if you don't know how to read release notes. Most of the shit I had to deal with when it comes to my arch install is gtk devs breaking compatibility on every release.
>>54105455
>pacman -syu broke my system.
How long did you wait before updating? Because the entire point of a rolling release is to always stay current.
>>54105511
>pacman -syu wouldn't do anything but update your repo list.
But that's wrong. -Sy updates just your repo, -Syu updates your repo then tries to update all packages.
>>54094156
Benefits are minimal but the time sink is at its maximum potency.
>>54097584
You mate it look like MATE default with blue theme - except it's not MATE and it will crash many times and lag out.
>>54094156
>lunix has 22 items in control panel
>windows 7 has 268
lol
>>54105676
I don't think that is an accurate representation of the windows control panel. By default if you go to the control panel it gives you like 8 things. You can change it to show everything in those 8 categories as smaller icons and then it is like 30 maybe.
>>54105676
>search cp
>>54099267
gnome devs are idiots. the reason they want it there is that they try to pitch they shitty ui to mobile devices. why the fuck do you think they have a "weather app" or mobile copy/paste markers?
there is a bit of a difference. leave the top clean so now you can do stuff faster by not having to aim.
as before, to close just slam the mouse in the top right direction and click, the close button is always there, need to access window menu, top left. for the average mouse wiggler user this makes some things faster.
with the proliferation of widescreens you can start to argue for a left side default a la unity but for the love of god dont fail like they did with another bar at the top. they could easily have some more icons for the rest of the topbar items in the vertical taskbar. but they too started with some constraints -netbooks, see pic- and worked from them rather than think things through.
or do what i did when docks where the shit and keep all the tray/user shit in a right aligned docklet that is offseted to the left enough to leave the window buttons uncovered. that way you still have info at the top while keeping the corners clean. that idiot shuttleworth had some right ideas with the window indicators but evidently fucked it up. tho recently I saw they put menus in the title bar; maybe indicators will make a comeback...
>>54105676
That's not a "Linux control panel"
>>54105844
them windicators and bonus: how he fucked them by integrating with unity.
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/333
>>54105844
There's a video on Computerphile that supports your argument very well. It discusses how there are various formulas regarding the placement of buttons, and being in the corners is the optimal placement because it effectively gives them infinite vertical and horizontal size.
You could simply move the title bar to the bottom to regain this effectively infinitely large (and thus very easy to press) button, but then you would find that your users are having to fight against their own muscle memory with no additional benefit.
>>54105676
Seriously this is what bothers me about my Arch install. I can change things like keyboard repeat speed on win10 but I can't do it anywhere on any distro ive used.
>>54094227
Relax anon. Don't feel embarrassed. We must fail before we succeed.
Go take a break from your computer, then come back to it and try again with a clear head.
>>54094156
>arch
>plasma 5
what happened to muh minimalism?
>>54106024
Arch isn't and never has been about minimalism. It's about customization.
>>54094241
enjoy "your" operating system
>>54105979
you can change it in Xorg's setting, so on any distro.
why would you, though?
do you like spamming lettersssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
>>54106055
Yeah, it's the comfy "fuck I just want wireless to work without a DE out of the box" distro for me. Everything else requires an ethernet to install the nonfree wifi firmware and shit if you don't want to use the default DE. For those of us with nonfree hardware, anyway. And I just like how it doesn't do anything I didn't tell it to do. Like debian is always automatically configuring shit and ruining things.
Because OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is superior.
>>54097252
>>54094156
A buddy and I used arch on a server to fuck around with and I thought it was pretty cool.
Any good alternatives? I'd like something I could probably use on a semi daily basis
>>54105844
>the reason they want it there is that they try to pitch they shitty ui to mobile devices
No. You haven't even thought this through or used GNOME. GNOME uses the two valuable infinite size corner hotspots for window management (left side) and device management (right side). Obviously the judgment was that these two actions are more common than closing windows. And I notice this is true in practice especially with GNOME's promotion of workspaces to a core UX component.
>why the fuck do you think they have a "weather app"
Because knowing the weather is useful.
>or mobile copy/paste markers?
Only when a touchscreen is detected. Again, have you used GNOME?
how do i get rid of that damn square on my desktop in kde.
>>54094310
>baka desu senpai
asian moot LEEEEEEEEEEAVE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54094156
that's a picture of KDE not arch
>>54105453
latest KDE
>>54094156
pacman doesnt have shit on apt, king of the packages
sage this garbage
>>54094156
>Because Debian exists
>>54097769
>Apricity
So Cinnamon or GNOME?
GNOME gets memed on a lot here, so I'm inclined to download the cinnamon apricity.
>>54107977
You sounded like a true newfag
Because Gentoo Linux is far more flexible.
>>54107669
Folder View Settings > Tweaks > Show the desktop toolbox, anon
>>54110105
Giving me flashbacks of trying to find the settings I want in the terribly organised clusterfuck that is KDE's settings.
>>54096861
Mint xfce. It gets the job done.
>>54110164
It's like declaring "I am dumb"
>>54094156
Because current xinitrc in package is full of empty lines breaking indentation.
>>54105543
to be pedantic, "-syu" does nothing, s != S
>>54094156
>Debian
Wrong picture, OP.
>>54094241
>windows 7
>made in the last five years
This is how people know you're a retard, kid.
>>54094227
Not sure if bait or not. But take it easy. The wiki is really good. Read a head, or even better, sit down, read the whole installing process. Twice. Before you even touch the computer. It literally tells you exactly what to do.
>>54095320
But where's the fun in that.
>>54098435
Why even have a bar. What use are they? #barlesssince2009
>>54094156
because it is
>>54101308
>>54101367
>I don't understand the packet manager
>This distro is a suck!
>>54101449
At least 17 times the l337 points.
>>54104926
RTFM
>>54101449
uninstalling libreoffice won't uninstall your DE
>>54098813
in soviet GNOME keyboard mouse you
>>54108049
Sort yourself out and just install it properly or stick to another distro.
>>54098344
>>54101277
>>54101308
>>54101367
>just to add to those anons
I have an install which I update once a year because reasons.
Point is it works.
>>54107428
yeah mate, when shell appeared I was trumpeting the shit out of it. when it looked like they would not deliver, I gave it up.
and yeah, its a mobile ui regardless of what they officially say, they have opengles in clutter ffs. some big shot even had a freudian slip at guadec 2012. funny thing is no one got baited in pushing this garbage on a mobile device yet.
I like to imagine the buthurt when ubuntu got a device, small as it may, with the ui canonical made to replace gnome shell.
oh and gnome window management is another can of shit. to the point that I began to think they use it as a solution looking for a problem. once you dont hide the taskbar you dont need half of the shit shell launcher gives ya.
shell looks nice and polished due to draconic control over it but other than that its shit, as the devs dont care. just look at the file picker meme...
Because Debian stands on its way
>>54108049
get the cinamon one, is pretty gud shit
gnome is unstable as fuck
>>54098435
STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE
Wifi,doesn't,work
Doesn't detect USB (it works on other OSes)
Unstable
>>54094227
>average 4chan /g/ user detected
This board sucks ass
because it's not centos.
>>54113352
>wifi doesn't work
install the correct driver/firmware.
>doesn't detect USB
what is an automounter and how do I install one
>unstable
unsubstantiated.
>>54112233
Looks comfy
>>54112723
It's keyboard-driven. They've definitely taken touchscreen into account when designing the UI, but none of it gets in the way of keyboarding. Mousing leaves something to be desired but can be improved with a couple of extensions, which leads me to:
>draconic control
People are always forgetting the extension support. It's pretty much the straight opposite of draconic control.
>>54100475
It means pacman fucked up xorg.conf while doing update idiot
b
>>54114122
pacman doesn't fuck with xorg.conf
