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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD (embed)
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Want to buy a new battery for my W520, going to get a genuine Lenovo battery, but what's the difference between the 55+ and 70++ 9 cell batteries? Does the 70++ hold a longer charge?
Also anyone know of a 1080p IPS screen swap for the W520? The default TN screen isn't that bad, but an IPS one would be ideal.
Which one of you anon's replace your ThinkPad hinges?
I can steal one, possibly two of these from work but they're bitlocker encrypted. Will swapping the HDD out get around that, or would the BIOS still be locked?
>>54075683
I think you could evade Bitlocker by swapping the HDDs, but if Computrace is activated or the BIOS has a password, you're fucked. The password is difficult to remove, but doable. I don't know if there's anything you can do to get rid of Computrace if it gets activated.
>>54075745
Meh, it's one of hundreds or more that'll be missing when the contract with the IT provider. They won't know it's gone for several years.
I just installed libreboot last night.
What distro should I install?
My X60 has an Intel Core Duo T2500 and 1gb ram (will upgrade to 2gb later in the week.)
I bought a T420 on ebay for $120 recently. It hasn't arrived yet, but how I'm reading that the display is really shitty. I'm thinking I should have gone with the X220. Is the display really that horrendous? Is it worth replacing?
>>54076003
It's really bad, but the X220's isn't much better. There's an Alienware panel that fits the T420 perfectly which provides a good upgrade to colors and viewing angles.
I have an X220, and it always hangs when I try to resume from sleep mode.
Anyone ever have this problem? Any idea what it could be?
Are "old" ThinkPads the only laptops that have pretty much everything changeable?
How's it with the newer ones and with other laptops in general?
>>54076072
What model of panel?
Can I get an ID on the laptop. I NEED to have it
Where do you Irish/British /g/entlemen buy your used Thinkpads? Considering picking up a T420
>>54076338
There's some guy around here that has a couple of Panasonic Toughbooks with circular trackpads like that.
>>54076148
I've got an X230 that does the same thing under Win8.1. I use Debian the other 99% of the time, so I just turned off sleep/hibernation in Windows.
>>54076318
Check the archives, someone posted details a few threads back.
>>54076318
If you still need it, it's the panel from the Alienware M14X M2. If you get the higher res 1600x900 one, but your ThinkPad's res is 1366x768, you'll also need to grab and install an HD+ cable.
>>54075683
If anything mobo swap it, GG
>>54076003
Eh, its bearable, unless like, you are coming from a beautiful IPS display on a laptop.
>>54076338
Probably a toughbook CF-T7 or T8.
anyone have a t530???
Who's the cocksucking mod who deleted the thread before I went to bed earlier today?
Any suggestions for a HD tray for a T420?
QUICK /spg/, POST YOUR MOST AESTHETIC THINKPAD PICTURE
>>54078492
>>54075784
Gentoo (seriously)
I installed Parabola for the sake of trying something Arch based on mine after using Gentoo forever and I discovered I don't care much for systemd or pacman.
>>54076338
you're not really going to get an ID on a specific model of the laptop since there are many Panasonic Toughbook models that use that circular trackpad
Pic related
>>54078492
>>54075280
This is now a MacBook Thread.
2016 Retinas when?
>>54078580
probably whatever day your mommy pays you your NEET allowance after the launch I guess.
>>54078580
It's almost no battery!
>>54078580
>latest thinkpad
>latest
Found your problem.
>>54076513
>>54076513
I have a x230 and debian, no problems, but a just suspend, never tried the hibernation, also have win8.1, barely use it
>>54076294
With the transition to Ultrashits, the general trend has been to make it as hard to service as possible with soldered or glued everything
That being said, the ThinkPad-like Elitebooks and Precisions/Latitudes are very serviceable, with the former having pretty much everything under 1 cover. And in terms of actual parts, if the processor is still socketed, chances are the memory, battery and storage are easily replaceable. Exception of course being the ThinkPad X series and those like it from other manufacturers - soldered processor
If you like pissing around I guess, consumer laptops had replaceable parts too as per prior to the Ultrashit revolution
>>54075780
>suddenly v&
>post the whole thing live on /tpg/
>>54078447
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Sata-2nd-hard-drive-HDD-Caddy-For-LENOVO-IBM-Thinkpad-R400-R500-T420-W500-12-7mm/207281_561185934.html
>>54078551
>CF-R9
Jesus.
That and all the MKI, II, III units they have.
>>54078580
Go make a macbook general, we business machines, not bullshit biz
>>54078492
No
So I want to replace my screen but I'm shit at doing stuff with my hands outside of typing.
What the hell do I search on ebay to replace the whole upper part of the laptop? I want to find one that has the panel preinstalled (less manual work + easier, I think).
What the fuck is going on here, I'm just watching DBZ on VLC media player.
Thinkpad x201 btw
>>54080765
Holy shit, that's a lot, try cracking it open, see if there's any dust blockage.
I really feel like buying a thinkpad, installing libreboot and using OS that respects my freedom.
>>54080765
>VLC
Maybe you don't have the correct driver or codec.
That or your TP was abused from hell and back, i got a nicer condition X61T and the temps were night and day
>>54080854
Shame that marvelous display is wasted on such a simple machine, PCs please get this.
>>54080863
I kinda like the experience.
It would of been awesome if it had a trackpoint.
If only ThinkPad retro would have a non glossy version of this screen...
I'm not sure if you guys can help me but I'm starting to lose my patience with this.
My T420 is not charging the battery at all even though smapi and xfce power manager say it is.
tlp-stat -b gives me this, too:
>/sys/devices/platform/smapi/BAT0/remaining_charging_time = not_charging [min]
I have tested several different batteries and two different adapters and no dice.
What should I do? Maybe I forgot to configure something, but everything worked perfectly fine until now. I'm afraid it's something in the motherboard that went kaput.
>>54080986
The experience of chrome OS is really good for the price, I left high school in 2014 and we used the little Samsung ones for all of our documents and they handled everything I threw it it HTML wise.
What's you are guys opinions on Vaio E-series laptops?
>mfw I have a T420 in a sea of "ultrabooks" and macs
Do you think it would be possible to swap out the interior of an X220 with something modern and low power?
I'm wondering if it would be possible to put an Atom motherboard inside it in a few years time, to get better battery life as well as new deciding options. Obviously you'll get far less performance, not to mention all the ports you wouldn't have. But it seems very difficult to find a modern laptop, which is both durable and with a great keyboard.
>>54081042
Have you tried charging it without booting it up? That should let you see if it's software related.
Though it does sound like it's hardware.
x230 master race reporting in
>>54081042
install Windows.
I am planning to buy a thinkpad for ~300 euros if thats possible, what can you recommend me? I've heared that some models are to be avoided.
Did anything change since the chinese company now owns thinkpads?
Whats the best place to get a new x220 battery in Germany? Ebay? Can anybody recommend a good seller?
And should i go for a genuine Lenovo or are there any worthy knockoffs?
>>54081334
Do not panic. It does not matter as long as you have an iPhone for the blue bubbles.
>>54079960
NOOO! Why do you have to post the worst part of an Elitebook? That somewhat flimsy power plug is the only thing they could have done better on those otherwise magnificent beasts... I mean, it works fine but it feels very cheap sadly...
>>54082001
>should i go for a genuine Lenovo or are there any worthy knockoffs?
The "knockoffs" are generally better than the original.
Laptop manufacturers use whatever cells they can source the cheapest, and they don't really care about their reputation when it comes to the battery.
Dedicated battery manufacturers do have a reputation to maintain.
>>54081848
>Intel HD Graphics
How do Thinkpads feel about sandpaper? Have some deformity that I'd like to minimalise or equalise so I could at least put a sticker or something
>>54082236
It's just a coating, you're gonna fuck it up with sand paper.. just put a sticker over it
>>54075280
What's a normal idle/working temp for x220 i5 2520m ?
I get around 36, mostly 38-39 for idling and around 42, up to 46-48, at times I get around 58-59 sometimes even 60+ for a second when really loaded.
I am running linux mint 17 with KDE and this is my first thinkpad so I was wondering if this is normal or I should consider other OS or something ?
What is the Thinkpad of Thinkpads, /tpg/? The T420?
>>54082177
Shit quality bait right there.
>>54082236
Use an eraser to remove that asset tag residue.
>>54082376
>T420
>Shit screen
>16:9 panel, huge bezels as a result
>Average build quality and keyboard comapred to other models
>>54082393
So what is the Thinkpad of Thinkpads, anon?
>>54082366
It's designed to work with temperatures up to 90C. Don't worry about that.
>>54082399
x230
>>54082376
X1 Carbon
>>54082393
>Average build quality and keyboard comapred to other models
What are you talking about, nigger?
This is the exact same keyboard that is used in x220, t520, w520 and t410.
>>54082324
It's not even, it looks like someone burned it and then scraped with knife, so it's in some places higher than normal, in some lower, sticker would stick shittily and uneven
>>54082376
The 600, preferably the X model with the PIII.
>>54082384
Eraser does nothing
>>54082466
and they're all shit as well
t60/x301 > 2009-2013 keyboards
>>54082399
T60.
>>54082553
Worked for me when I used this.
Just ordered new thinkpad yoga 260. I sold my surface pro 3 this week and added yoga to my shipping card on friday. I tried really hard not to order it but gave in moments ago.
Hopefully it'll be worth it, I had to top up my surface selling money by $500 to get it. Which in the end is not that bad as I bought my surface few months short two years ago. In fact, I have to admit that surface pro's warranty is pretty exceptional, I still had half a year of warranty left which translates to 2,5 years of free warranty.
>>54082733
Well it's not really any kind of residue either, it's knife marks and burned(?) lump
Am I insane for wanting to pick up an X201 tablet despite having a perfectly functional T440?
>>54082929
Order and fit a new lid for it then.
>>54082860
It's not free, you paid for it in the cost of the machine
>>54082961
if you have a need for something smaller or just want to mess around with it i dont see any reason why not if you have spare cash to burn
>>54081682
Yes. It just doesn't charge at all, the light stays on as long as it's connected though.
>>54081856
Going to actually try this and see if it makes a difference.
>>54076369
I live in Glasgow. I bought a refurbished X220 (i7, 256 GB SSD, 8 GB RAM) from ebay for £250. Looks brand new.
>>54082984
>It's not free, you paid for it in the cost of the machine
Yeah, of course, but you couldn't get i5-4300U machines under a grand in sub-13" category two years ago. Even though I have somewhat dislike of MS in general, I have to admit that they make quality hardware with competitive pricing and their support for surface pro line is really good.
Unless you want to run linux on it.
>>54082984
Nah, I'll try to sand it out, it can't look worse and I'll put a sticker on it
>>54081662
Why would you want to downgrade an x220?
>>54076072
The alienware panel isn't mich of an upgrade. Colors are better, but the viewing angles are equally bad.
Is BX100 for X201T a good choice?
Also, should I get 2x4GB DDR3 for it? If so, what frequency and brand?
>>54075280
>Excellent GNU/Linux support
does it even matter? I've never saw a laptop that couldn't run linux unless it's old as fuck.
>>54075784
I ran Funtoo on my X61 (similar specs) for many years.
>>54083430
Sometimes laptop hardware has issues with linux. It's mostly because of lack of drivers or low quality of those. Notable examples are (or were) Broadcom wireless chipsets and ATI/AMD graphics cards.
>>54083409
Stealth brony detected, good shit though. I like it.
>>54083430
Some components don't have Linux drivers.
>>54083430
What >>54083463 said. Ant memepads have extra features such as battery thresholds. As long as you dont use a meme distro, everything will work from the start without the need to fuck around with shit.
>>54083484
Tree house = best house.
Would I regret this? I need something cheap but decent/ok
http://m.staples.com/Refurbished-Lenovo-T61-141-100GB-Hard-Drive-2GB-Memory-Intel-Core-2-Duo-Win-7-Home/product_125492
>>54083500
Definitely more comfy than that big ass castle.
>>54078580
>>54078968
honestly even older thinkpads aren't as good as a macbook.
>>54083493
>extra features such as battery thresholds
so does dell, big deal
>>54083519
For that price I'd recommend a T400, you'll get a newer Core 2 duo and DDR3 RAM, but the best value really is in the sandy Bridge T420 series, you can get a good one for like $170.
>>54083530
Lol no. Macbook innards suck ass. Have you ever had to work on one? What a pain in the dick compared to a ThinkPad.
>>54083530
>implying something you can open up and change each part is worse than something that just looks nice.
>>54075544
anyone?
>>54083530
>>54083550
Elitebooks are even better.
>>54083551
>>54083550
Sorry, I was talking about good looks.
Old thinkpads have tons of different screws so I don't think they're great anyway..
>>54083590
What a looker, that is.
>>54083590
How is that good?
Looks like you have to jump through hoops to dig to anything for replacement or cleaning.
>bbut it has black heatpipes!
>>54083613
>Looks like you have to jump through hoops to dig to anything for replacement or cleaning.
>thinkpad
>have to remove half of the laptop to get to the heatsink (palm rest + keyboard)
>dell + hp
>heatsink accessible after removing 1 back panel
>ram, wireless cards, odd, hdd also easy to access
>>54078580
Yeah.
Good thing your non-replaceable battery will still look pretty when it fails 3 years down the road turning your new Macbook into a paperweight.
>>54083596
My X201T can be taken apart with just a PH1.
>>54083637
>Mac
>1000 cycle battery with 80% health (Apple specs)
>ThinkPad
>300 cycle battery, 50-60% health if you're lucky
>>54083634
I've seen a DELL, had no easy-access parts besides RAM. Guess it depends on the model.
>have to remove half of the laptop to get to the heatsink (palm rest + keyboard)
You just have to remove the keyboard for that, on X201T at least. You can then remove the shit from the fan.
>>54083655
>300 cycle battery, 50-60% health if you're lucky
then the chinkpad owner cheaply swaps batteries and keeps on trucking.
>>54083655
>Most laptops, including ThinkPad.
>When battery dies, you get a new aftermarket one.
>Mac
>when battery dies you throw it away.
Ok I look up on those fucking ACs for my x100e and they say I can use a 90w ac and a 65w one yet the original coming with a new x100e is a 65w.
The problem is that I got a deal for a guy for a genuine 90w for 30$ or buying a genuine 65w for 75$. On thinkpad-parts it says that the 90w model works fine, but I'm still wondering why would be bad for my x100e to use a 90w? Could I kill it or dommage it?
>>54080765
>VLC
That shit doen't even use hardware acceleration. Use MPC-HC instead.
And repaste.
>>54082376
T60
>built like a tank with the weight to match
>remains portable even at 15" due to 4:3 aspect ratio
>GOAT keyboard
>greatest potential for upgrades
>IPS screen with huge resolution
>excellent internal layout for easy servicing at every level
>best ultrabay design
>tons of LED indicators
>IBM logo
>libreboot compatible
>advanced dock keeps graphics up to par
Truly the Thinkpad's Thinkpad.
>>54083665
>I've seen a DELL, had no easy-access parts besides RAM. Guess it depends on the model.
The majority of latitudes and precisions have this feature
>>54082197
Actually, the HD 4000 performs as much as an old GeForce GT 330M.
>>54083430
Good luck with surface pro's wifi. KB cover works for now, but only on recent kernel and it's bound to be broken when ms chooses to refresh something again in their surface line.
>>54083731
HD3000 isn't even much of a joke, it's faster than my quadro nvs 160.
>>54083714
>IBM Logo
yet made by Lelnovo
>>54083638
it doesn't change the fact that it has a lot of different screws, so you need to manage them carefully.
>>54081848
CHICLET
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>>54082618
*tips fedora*
>>54083808
All screws for palmrest and keyboard are identical M2x6 PH1. The screws holding e.g. mPCIe cards are different (shorter) obviously.
It's OK for screws in different groups to be different.
>>54083686
>when battery dies you throw it away
that can't be true.
>>54083731
There are different types of HD4000 iGPU. i3s got the slowest option, i5 slightly faster ones and i7 the fastest iGPUs.
It's also important to have 2133MT/s RAM in dual channel to get maximum performance in 3d applications.
>>54083858
Well, alternatively, you might find a used laptop with the same battery, but with better condition, or maybe replace the 18500 cells in it.
>>54083778
>Designed by IBM
>>54083887
This also requires reprogramming the eeprom memory inside these battery packs. This is way more complicated than just replacing dead cells.
>>54084026
Not really, all you really need to to is short one spot on the board after you add the new cells, and bam.
>>54083845
there are too many of them, that's just stupid design.
>M2 × 6 mm, wafer-head, nylon-coated
>M2 × 3 mm, flat-head, nylon-coated
>M2 × 3.5 mm, wafer-head, nylon-coated
>M2 × 2 mm, wafer-head, nylon-coated
>M2.5 × 6 mm, wafer-head, nylon-coated
>and so on.
There are laptops with only 2 or 3.
>>54084048
But this is purely lie, desu familia.
>>54084092
No. Look it up, faggot.
>>54084091
So what, does that make them better? You still have to care about those 2 or 3 types.
Wafer-head and flat-head screws can be interchanged by the way.
>>54084096
Why so rude, senpai~
>Thin as fuck
>Still had a dvd player
>Best keyboard too in this small thing
>In 2008
Apple BTFO.
>>54084136
Because you need to get learnt.
>>54084147
And you need to get laid, virgin homofaggot
>>54084164
At least you tried.
>>54084124
it makes things much easier, man. One for pretty much everything. Something like four big ones on the bottom and a short kind for things like you said.
>>54084175
Nice dodge, faggot.
When was the last time a female touched you?
>>54084143
>Apple BTFO
Yeah, by this fucking ad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hnOCUkbix0
>>54084202
0/10, not even trying.
>>54084143
>lenovo in 2008
>apple in 2016
there yo go.
>>54084214
That's beautiful.
>>54083691
get the 90W, it'll charge your laptop faster
>>54083590
>Stacking mPCIe slots on top of each other
Fuck no
/tpg/ i need your Help!
Im currently using a t420s but im thinking about getting a 12" Thinkpad for mobility.
Are there any struggles with longer typing sessions (programming etc) with a 12" thinkpad because of the shorter palm rest?
I've struggles if I should choose the x220 or the x201t (tablet).
The x201t im looking for has a 16:10 (Masterrace) Screen and Multitouch+Pen
It'll also come with a new 9 cell battery
How long will one does it run with a full battery and only typing on gVim with Wlan and 80% Screen brightness?
Or shall i rather go with an x220?
>>54084197
Sure it does, but how often you take a laptop apart?
>>54082476
Yeah, the 600X is good in my books. Probably the pinnacle. If you think the T60 has good build quality, you ain't seen shit.
I just wish the resolution was slightly better. 1024x768 kind of hurts.
>>54082618
I actually vastly prefer the keyboard that came with my T410s to the T60. Although the one that came with my W520, while ostensibly the same, felt noticeably worse, go figure.
>>54082376
>The T420?
>>54084489
That T420 is a beast.
>>54083546
Cool, thanks I'll see if I can find one. I'm upgrading from a chromebook so I'm not terribly picky.
>>54083563
70+ works on 530 and older
55+ works only on 520 and older.
>>54084453
Yeah, I have a t60p 14", got it used, it's definitely not a holy grail of build quality in anyway. Nothing bad too though.
>>54084397
Yeah, I wouldn't trade an old thinkpad for a newer one based on that if this is what you're trying to achieve.
My t420 99c mousepad came. I should have made the lines a bit brighter (its a bit darker irl), but its all quite recognisable.
>>54082376
def not the t420 blaze it edition.
X1 carbon touch maybe. x300 might be.
Anyone here running arch on a T420?
I have a problem with the bluetooth status led, it is always on even though I'm 100% positive I didn't install any bluetooth drivers.
Any idea how to turn it off or what driver to install?
>>54084883
>go in to bios
>turn off bluetooth
ez
>>54084891
That's the problem, already done that.
>>54084897
Install a real OS
>>54084897
Remove the LED
>>54084883
I have the same problem. My Bluetooth module is totally missing. Apparently installing one fixes this problem. BIOS setting has no effect.
>>54084374
> bump
>>54085090
Personally, I find them equally easy to type on.
Anyone reason for a normie to install these?
>>54084883
I am on windows 10 and have bluetooth disabled. the LED is sitll on.Not sure if it is on my other xubuntu one though.
Is the E series really that bad?
>>54085400
See if you physically have the module.
>>54085387
I power use my old Dell and don't use any of their utilities, just drivers.
>>54085417
Yes. They should really rename it to the Cliff series, because if you buy one you're gonna want to throw yourself off one.
Picked up this bag on eBay for $15, can't find any info on it online though.
Anybody know roughly when it was made?
I know it's at least before 2005.
>>54085696
I'm only guessing, but that looks mid to late 90's or early 2000's.
>>54085420
Yeah mostly here too. although the companion seems helpful. it came when i reinstalled OS somehow. didn't before. I had power manager 6 with fan control before as well. Now I cannot get that shit for the life of me.sometimes I wonder if I should just go to windows 7 instead.
>>54081848
>iso
Honestly the best thing about the t60 was installing a t61 mobo to get 8 gb ram. And sata 2
just ordered a T420 in the year 2016
how bad did i fuck up?
>>54086179
You didn't. Max out the RAM and get an mSATA SSD and you're set.
>>54081848
>chiclet
>ISO keyboard yet american layout
>>54086150
Hell yeah.
I've never saw anyone talking about this on /g/ so here it is.
http://www.thinkpads.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103208#p670145
tl;dr x220 IPS display is color inaccurate (too warm), you need to calibrate it yourself.
Thinkpad X100E for $80 a good price? Would be able to pick it up locally.
>>54086428
Slightly overpriced, but if it fits your needs, go for it.
>>54084453
My 600X has definitely seen some shit.
>>54086586
Looking for some portability. My T410 is great, but I cannot carry around the brick with me everywhere I go.
Do you think $65 is a good price for it if I can get him that low?
cmos battery is dead again.
>>54082197
I was going to advertise the NVS 4200m passmark score but it wasn't much different than the Intel HD 3000 graphics it had on the side.
>>54082376
600X most likely, maybe the T60... Yet T43p is very nice, if only they kept the same frame/mobo on intel, it would of been sealed, minus the whole no windows key.
>>54083430
Oddly it becomes a problem for some of us.
>>54086428
God no. Even the weakest processor in the X200 is nearly twice as powerful as the best in the X100e. That thing is worthless.
>>54083530
>implying the white/black macbooks don't have a notorious BO smell because of the glue binding
Macs might have an ok access to HDD and RAM on the older models, but not being able to replace your CPU or replacing the disc drive is not fun.
>>54083590
My only issue is that Elitebooks ask for T8 screwdrivers instead of just philips like everyone else.
Also I do not care for their flex cable clampers when it comes to the keyboard/mouse/hardware buttons because they are sort of flimsy.
They could of been a simple plug like Dells and ThinkPads.
>>54086644
Are you the same guy from the other thread?
Just set the time and very quickly power cycle it with the switch, it will boot right up.
Thinking of modding the one on my 600E so I can just replace the battery instead of the entire assembly.
>>54086630
Sure, but I wouldn't feel too bad at the current price if it's in great condition.
>>54086682
I would be down to purchase a X220 or even a X200, but I need something as soon as possible. I really cannot afford dragging around my T410 to school and to work. The small size that the X100E offers is what I need. I'm not doing anything particularly intensive. Mainly just using a word processor and possibly watching videos on it. I have my T410 and my gaming rig for more intensive things.
>>54086729
Pictures seem like it is in good condition. Not sure what the specs are on it though. Emailed him about it. I'm guessing that it is 2GB of RAM or 1GB of RAM with a 160GB HDD.
>2012 x230 with i7 and IPS screen lasts longer on battery life than newest thinkpads with ULV CPUs and low power everything
Why is this allowed?
>>54086763
Upgrade the RAM all the way and toss in an SSD (or two if it supports mSATA), sounds like a decent bang around mobile.
>>54086713
Actually, it was stuck in a loop, constantly setting the the time. I had to pull the CMOS battery out, but last time I tried to use this machine I'd stuck an empty hard drive in it, so all I can do right now is play with the duck and the screwdriver until I can find my Win98 disc.
>>54086713
also yes I think I might be the same poster
I was talking about tearing open old Linksys routers to harvest their mini-pci WLAN cards for 600s.
What's your laptop's birthday, /tpg/?
>>54086769
>Why is this allowed?
Has it ever occurred to you that the 'thin' meme has spread and now everything has low capacity batteries?
>>54086997
My highest end Latitude E6400 is from June 10, 2010.
>>54087133
are your shoes really more valuable than your laptops?
>>54087237
Holy hell, I just realized, I do spend more on shoes then my laptops.
>T520 with X230 trackpoint buttons
>>54086884
I miss the little duck ;___;
Got a t61 sitting in a bin with some other shit; it boots to a locked BiOS password screen and I have no idea what it wants for input. Tried what I could off of google; am I fucked?
>>54087740
tell me one thing, xsauc.
Are you a trap?
>>54087740
Got a T520 coming in the mail. Is there a particular reason to replace the trackpoint buttons with the X230's?
>>54087744
oh yeah, got a working x41 too. It's old as shit though; not sure I want to bother with it. Thoughts?
>>54087764
No, though I do wish that I was.
Maybe if I find a get rich scheme I will go full trap, or just wait in my 40's like the Wachowskis.
>>54087777
No, i just did it for fun, to see if its even possible.
Nice Quads.
You just need to tape some paper onto underneath the button so that it can contact correctly, the x30 keyboards are slightly thinner.
>>54087916
>I will go full trap
Maybe see a doctor for your mental illness? :^)
>>54087939
Only if you are my doctor. (;
>>54082376
Definitely not. The only reason the t420 is so encouraged here is because it's the most powerful Thinkpad that still has the classic keyboard. But as far as other Thinkpads that have the classic keyboard goes, it loses out in pretty much everything except the processor and not having a melting GPU.
It has
>shit TN screen after years of IPS 4:3 screens
>Awful bezel
>Toned down roll cage
>Shit resolution
>>54086041
Desu familia, are you me?
Did you fall for my constantly reposted eGPU+x230 meme?
I sold mine and decided to buy myself a streaming server with nice GPU. :*)
I found a T510 in good shape for sale. the guy wanted $400 initially but i managed to talk it down to $300. the guide says a good price would be $180 to $210, but this is the only T series (or X, W) i could find locally. international shipping isn't an option sadly.
Question is; should i bite the bullet and take it or should i expand my options and keep looking?
I'm currently using this laptop: http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/780196/HP-Pavilion-Laptop-Computer-With-156/, is it worth it to upgrade to a thinkpad, and if yes which model?
>>54088192
I'd do it. Even if you end up overpaying, your use and enjoyment is all that matters in the end.
>>54088063
I was thinking about the same.
Could you post more specs? I'm mostly interested in the software you use for streaming.
>>54088323
Steam. It has everything you need to stream games between computers in the same network.
>specs
i5-2500k, 8GB RAM, GTX970. Server is hidden in my basement, so I don't need to hear fan noise or anything.
>>54088193
>Pavillion
Throwing it in the trash would be an upgrade
>>54080765
Seems VLC is not using hardware decoding.
>>54088374
How about non-steam games? Can you play FPS with that configuration? Is the network lag (between the stream server and the laptop) noticable?
>>54088380
Former Pavillion user now on an Acer Extensa 5620; literally did that.
>>54088405
Right now my home infrastructure is based on one 300Mbit b/g/n AP and one repeater, so it's not currently playable. It is very playable through wired connection tho.
I'm gonna upgrade my x230 to intel 7260 ac card so this problem will be solved soon.
>>54088417
>Acer
Yeah, you might need to buy a bigger trash can to fit the Pavillion and the Acer in there.
>>54082376
>>54083714
T60 with T61 internals is truly a masterpiece. The T601F
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvcoPj6ILYA
>>54084143
Shit ULV CPU tho...
>>54088436
I will agree that every other Acer I've ever used has been dog shit; this is the sole exception, honestly to an extreme. Still planning to get that T61 up and running if I can figure out what to do about the BiOS...
>>54088517
So did the air, but the air has no ethernet, no dvd burner, no nothing, and it's expensive as hell.
>>54075280
just got x220, i5 2520m but with only 1x2gb ram stick 1333 mhz
I can get cheaply either 1x8 gb 1600mhz or 1x4gb 1333 mhz
>if I put either stick + the 2gb ram I have should it run OK ?
>or I am better off, buying 2x4gb 1333 mhz or just put the single 8gb stick ?
>>54084883$ rfkill block bluetooth
Wiki says it's only temporary but I ran the command once and it never enabled itself again
>>54088551
2x4GB, unless you'll ever need 16GB. Dual channel is MUCH faster than single channel ram.
>>54088249
>your use and enjoyment is all that matters in the end.
yeah i'm blowing that 300 on a hooker now. thanks
>>54088589
Im running linux mint btw and all I do is some Java programming and some shitty /wdg/ from time to time, but 2gb feels bad, on windows 7 too... so I am going for 2x4
>>54088639
Max it out at 16. It's cheap to do, and you'll never want for RAM.
>>54088639
Good choice familia.
Does it matter if I charge my x220 from fully dead or can I charge it from 50-60% I recently bought it and love it I mean everything -- the nipple mouse, the think light etc. how do I maximize the life span of this device?
>>54088596
If you honestly think it'll make you happier in the long term than a laptop, go for it.
>>54088746
don't ever discharge your battery lower than 20%. It permanently damages the cells and lowers the maximum battery capacity.
>how do I maximize the life span
Never discharge lower than 20% and set it through power manager to stop charging at 95%.
>>54088689
Ok, but does i5 2520m on x220 support 1600 mhz ram ?
And if so, is it better than 2x4 1333 mhz ?
>>54088860
>set it through power manager to stop charging at 95%.
How do I go about this on arch linux
>>54088950
IIRC it does. Better is relative. I'd say it would be.
>>54088980
install https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TLP
configure http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-configuration.html#chargethresholds
personally I go with start at 40 and stop at 98
>>54089026
thanks, really helpful, most polite thread in /g/
>>54081848
What gaym is this? Been looking for stuff I can run on my x230.
>>54089037
I installed tlp a bit ago but never configured it, how do I check if it's running at startup
>>54088950
It does, but only with a modded or old BIOS. Not that there's much to gain from the higher speeds, as the iGPU is too weak to be good for much anyway.
>>54089071
For the record, source engine games tend to run great on the X220 and up.
>>54088020
Is the classic keyboard that much better? What would you say a better equivalent priced thinkpad is?
>>54088980
You kill yourself. This should help.
Would an IBM t43 be okay for internet browsing on openbsd? Or should I go for something lenevo?
>>54089117
Get out.
>>54089134
It would work, but I don't think You'd have a good time. Get something with at least a C2D and 2GB RAM, 4 if you plan to do anything remotely heavy at any time.
>>54088860
More power saving tips? I love my X220. I was really lucky with my ebay lottery, the battery had less than 50 cycles and in perfect condition.
That was in August, now I have 253 cycles. CPUID HWMonitor says 20% wear. Design capacity is 62.16 Wh and now the max is 50.33
I've been doing charge to 100%, unplug, get to 10%, charge till 100% again and so on. Is 20% wear after 8 months bad?
>>54084374
I have the X201T. If you have any further questions, ask.
>Are there any struggles with longer typing sessions (programming etc) with a 12" thinkpad because of the shorter palm rest?
>How long will one does it run with a full battery and only typing on gVim with Wlan and 80% Screen brightness?
With a bit used up 4400mAh battery and no power tuning, I get about 3-4 hours. With tuning and a new one, I'd say 5-6h is possible.
I don't have problems with that, but maybe I just got used to it.
>>54089037
>>54089087
Ok I've set that up now, how do I know it's working and would you be kind enough to explain what it's actually doing and how that helps?
>>54087133
thanks, you fuck. Because of you I had to order a E6400.
