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Is Windows 10 really spying on me? If so, please avoid posting memes and provide relevant sources.
>>54065098
Nice meme.
nobody?
>>54065090
The day /g/ admits they dont got anything on w10.
Thanks OP, I knew it was all a meme deep inside and no one actually uses GNU+Linux.
I mean, why would you if w10 is superior in every way.
Upgrade to W10 to find out if you're mad enough
Yes
>>>/g/oogle
=.
Here is some more infopasta to debunk the FUD linux users have been spreading about a backdoor found in Windows 10, originally posted on several subreddits and blew up but as soon as they got called out they deleted all posts and accounts since they linked back to the linux reddit.
>>54066220
>>54066345
> buttblasted NEET defending the most popular desktop OS
How does it feel to be a pathetic shill?
Picture is the EULA for wangblows 10 enterprise edition, which has no weather apps
Kill yourself
>>54066839
cont'd
>>54066839
>>54066915
End of thread.
Circlejerk all you want. The data collection module of wangblows cannot be disabled completely. Some of the connection attempts could not be explained up to this date, not even by MS employees. Had the data collector daemon be open source you would know and diagnose if it is working or not.
GNU/Linux respects user privacy more than shitblows and that's a hard fact to digest for /v/ migrants.
Bye
>>54066839
>>54066915
>>54066960
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! delete this!!!!!!!!!
>>54066915
>>54066960
>>54066839
>>54066915
>>54066960
Been disproven many times:
http://www.zdnet.com/article/when-it-comes-to-windows-10-privacy-dont-trust-amateur-analysts/
>>54065404
People are tired of proving it. Someone makes a fucking thread about this shit almost daily.
It's common knowledge.
Why the fuck do you think Microsoft is now trying to sue the fucking US government?
http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/14/microsoft-justice-department-lawsuit/
They know Win10 is collecting vital information and they're greedy for all that fucking data.
Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1
Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu
Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX · https://archive.is/qLRZx
Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/Zny36 · https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ · https://archive.is/ko469
A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10:
Keypoints: Windows 10 has a keylogger and uploads all your
keystrokes every 5 minutes. Everything you type in Edge or
Cortana is sent to Microsoft, along with any media files it
finds. When webcam is enabled, 35MB of data goes to Microsoft.
Even with Cortana disabled/uninstalled, Windows 10 sends all
microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
https://archive.is/QnTTA
https://archive.is/eZKc9
Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy
> Over 82 billion photos viewed.
> Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
> 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
> Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
> Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
>>54065090
https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-personal-data-abused/
>>54066960
This...and these threads should start with truth that you have no fucking idea what windows is or is not doing coz you can't review the code.
>>54066915
Just turn off internet...
>complain about Operating System privacy
>carry around a tracking device a.k.a. cellphone
>make purchases with a credit card
Yep, makes perfect fucking sense.
>>54066839
Fucking hell. Is that in Windows 8.1 as well? I'm just curious, I don't use it.
>>54068365
>keeping important data on your phone
>actually paying with credit card, not withdraw money from account then pay in cash
retard
What's that software that /g/ wrote that blocked all microsoft shit?
>>54068365
>If everyone does it then it's fine
>My only two options is giving all to everyone or not giving anything to anyone
yeah, no.
>carry around a tracking device a.k.a. cellphone
Same as with windows and linux there's people looking for and recommending more respectful alternatives even if they're the 1%.
>make purchases with a credit card
So making a purchase with a credit card involves giving all my info to every company that asks for it?
Yep, makes perfect fucking sense.
>>54068456
>/g/ wrote
a logo is not the complete software
>>54068421
Doesn't matter if you have important data on your phone or not. You're literally carrying around a tracking device that lets the government know where you are at all times. Hope you save up all your money to buy a car or house in all cash.
>>54068476
>Same as with windows and linux there's people looking for and recommending more respectful alternatives even if they're the 1%.
There's a difference from having people know your browsing history and them knowing where you are at any given time during a day. Oh no, they know you browse 4chan and what porn you watch. Big fucking deal.
>So making a purchase with a credit card involves giving all my info to every company that asks for it?
The credit card company knows your purchasing habits, which they sell off to advertising companies. It also means they can track your location based on where you use it.
>>54068180
the reason they're suing the us government is because they want to be able to tell the people concerned if the FBI made a data request.
the data being telemetry, which you can opt out of when installing the OS.
you are a fucking idiot.
no worse or better than win7
Which is all system diagnostics and data stored from apps (if you use them) like every other OS on the planet.
>>54068508
>There's a difference from having people know your browsing history and them knowing where you are at any given time during a day.
did you just avoided my point completely? read again what i said, i'm not trying to justify or imply that the situation with the mobile phones is fine or is better, learn to read.
>The credit card company knows your purchasing habits, which they sell off to advertising companies. It also means they can track your location based on where you use it.
And exactly how this justifies an operating system doing exactly the same? What if i found an operative system that doesn't require that information from me to work? oh wait, i already found it.
>>54068658
No, only on Microsoft and Apple products.
>>54068658
>no worse or better than win7
no, it's a lot worse than 7
>>54068103
Can you read you brain dead hindu?
>Some of the connection attempts could not be explained up to this date, not even by MS employees.
Employee like the cuckblog you just posted.
>Apple does all the same shit MS does in OSX
>applauded for improving the customer experience
Why? OSX is a bigger botnet than Windows 10, and they don't give a fuck/proudly admit it
Nope. It's just poor wording in MS EULA plus public paranoia because of the Snowden revelations, plus paid Apple/Google/GNU shills in /g/ (GNU shills probably do it for free though). You're probably more much more vulnerable to spying by using Gmail or Google search than by using Windows, for example.
>>54068476
>So making a purchase with a credit card involves giving all my info to every company that asks for it?
AFAIK, business can request your CC info to your issuer if they so desire in order to prevent fraud.
>>54068103
>Windows 10 expanded that data reporting to 113 non-private IP addresses. Being non-private means there is the potential for hackers to intercept this data.
>non-private IP addresses
hahahahahahahaha how do people trust what this "hacker" says? I knew people bashing Windows 10 because >muh botnet were not very bright, but this shows a complete lack of any technology knowledge.
>>54068103
>zdnet
lmao
>win10 keylogger
>eula
>we try hard to not capture sensitive info, passwords, etc.
KEK
Is it weird that I kind of don't care anymore if I am being tracked?
I mean, if someone wants to gather information about my loser-ass ordering pizza, watching cartoons, buying shitty 90s music, and looking at disgusting gay monster porn then I guess I don't really care.
>>54070540
Yeah, plus gaymen from Steam.
>>54070598
I don't even use Steam.
are there monster cocks on Steam I am unaware of?
>>54070638
I mean video games.
How to disable all the spyware shit?
>>54070714
go offline
>>54065463
Windows 10 has massive compatibility issues when it comes to drivers and forced me to change OS's to Windows 7 in order to not bluescreen 20 times a day. That's why.
>>54068559
>opt out
>>54066915
>>54066960
these show that opting out does absolutely nothing, and that MS still collects and transmits personal data, including everything listed in
>>54066839
You're an idiot. Enjoy your botnet.
>>54068365
This is really hard to go without these days.
The modern world, especially for those of us that aren't NEETs, are demanded to be available at all times. I really wish I didn't need my personal tracking device at all times, but I've actually gotten shit talks from my manager because I wasn't answering customer emails in a timely fashion, and when I said I didn't have email on my phone, he was stunned and told me to put it back on my phone (yes a notification every 15 minutes was pissing me off).
Then the credit/debit card issue. A lot of stores are starting to become cashless. I hate it. I prefer to have physical money.
I wish some things were the way they use to be.
;_;
>>54068103
>zdnet
>not a microsoft "partner"
youre either incredibly dumb or believe that zdnet and techrepublic are viable sources of information that isnt biased by vendors.
>>54073746
No it doesn't you retard. You have no idea the difference between telemetry, windows updates, and transmitting personal data.
Grow a brain
>>54073659
I only had a few driver issues at first, which you should expect with a new OS anyway.
Eventually I reinstalled all my drivers, in proper order, and everything is butter now.
What issues where you having exactly, and did you upgrade before it was recommended for your system?
I know I had to wait about 3 months after the retail release for 10 to upgrade.
>>54076924
>You have no idea between being a faggot and liking dicks, cocks and cum
Sure it's meme
>>54068421
>not using a credit card to pay for burgers like a good american so that you blend in with the crowd. Someone without a Facebook, cellphone or credit history will always throw more red flags than a terrorist or stormfront retard.
>>54068456
search archives going back to july 30 and august 30 2015
>>54068508
Why is hiding your location so important to you? I don't have a problem with people knowing mine, "oooh he's been at home for 10 hours straight :O". That information is and has been available to anyone willing to stalk you in a good old sit in car in front of house fashion since forever. But what has never been accessible to anyone without breaking and entering is your local data. That's the shit that bothers me with w10. The info you reveal to your phone can be controlled, but your PC should be a bastion not so easily desecrated. Having such access to my data is akin to having direct access to my private thoughts which is unprecedented.
>>54080586
At least they have to wait in a car. They earn the right to spy you by working not by clicking buttons and see your report
>>54080629
This is a valid point, mass surveilance is different from tracking a couple faggots. However what I meant was that you never had any expectation of privacy for this sort of thing, while with windows this is unprecedented and data previously secure is now made pretty much public.
>>54076892
Read the article itself retard, or is it too much work for you? The dude that claimed that MS spies is probably an underage /g/tard that doesn't know shit about TCP/IP networking.
- Windows installer can be linked to windows update. So if you have not installed all updates on the system, some installers will fail due to "missing" updates. This causes major issues in server environments where not all updates should or can be installed.
- Windows 10 auto updates, eating your bandwidth and not giving you a choice of which updates to install.
- Windows 10 upgrade automatically uninstalls applications from your PC deemed "incompatible" for no apparent reason. Applications remain compatible after upgrade, big surprise there!
- Microsoft has already backdoored its disk encryption. https://theintercept.com/2015/12/28/recently-bought-a-windows-computer-microsoft-probably-has-your-encryption-key/
- In Windows 10, the universal back door is no longer hidden; all “upgrades” will be forcibly and immediately imposed. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/07/windows-10-updates-to-be-automatic-and-mandatory-for-home-users/
- Windows 8 also has a back door for remotely deleting apps. http://www.computerworld.com/article/2500036/desktop-apps/microsoft--we-can-remotely-delete-windows-8-apps.html
- You might well decide to let a security service that you trust remotely deactivate programs that it considers malicious. But there is no excuse for deleting the programs, and you should have the right to decide who (if anyone) to trust in this way.
- Windows 8's back doors are so gaping that the German government has decided it can't be trusted. http://drleonardcoldwell.com/2013/08/23/leaked-german-government-warns-key-entities-not-to-use-windows-8-linked-to-nsa/
- Microsoft has desupported all future Intel CPUs for Windows 7 and 8. Those machines will be stuck with the nastier Windows 10. AMD and Qualcomm CPUs, too. http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/16/10780876/microsoft-windows-support-policy-new-processors-skylake http://gizmodo.com/only-the-latest-version-of-windows-will-run-on-some-fut-1753545825
- Of course, Windows 7 and 8 are unethical too, because they are proprietary software. But this example of Microsoft's wielding its power demonstrates the power it holds.
- Free software developers also stop maintaining old versions of their programs, but this is not unfair to users because the users of free software have control over it. If it is important enough to you, you and other users can hire someone to support the old version on your future platforms.
- Microsoft is repeatedly nagging many users to install Windows 10. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/sep/11/microsoft-downloading-windows-1
- Microsoft informs the NSA of bugs in Windows before fixing them. http://www.computerworlduk.com/blogs/open-enterprise/how-can-any-company-ever-trust-microsoft-again-3569376/
- Windows 10 ships with default settings that show no regard for the privacy of its users, giving Microsoft the “right” to snoop on the users' files, text input, voice input, location info, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history, as well as automatically connecting the machines to open hotspots and showing targeted ads. https://web.archive.org/web/20151001035410/https://jonathan.porta.codes/2015/07/30/windows-10-seems-to-have-some-scary-privacy-defaults/
- Windows 10 sends identifiable information to Microsoft, even if a user turns off its Bing search and Cortana features, and activates the privacy-protection settings. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
- Microsoft uses Windows 10's “privacy policy” to overtly impose a “right” to look at users' files at any time. Windows 10 full disk encryption gives Microsoft a key. https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-personal-data-abused/
- We can suppose Microsoft look at users' files for the US government on demand, though the “privacy policy” does not explicit say so. Will it look at users' files for the Chinese government on demand?
- The unique “advertising ID” for each user enables other companies to track the browsing of each specific user.
- Windows 10 requires users to give permission for total snooping, including their files, their commands, their text input, and their voice input. http://www.techworm.net/2014/10/microsofts-windows-10-permission-watch-every-move.html
- Spyware in Windows: Windows Update snoops on the user. Windows 8.1 snoops on local searches. And there's a secret NSA key in Windows, whose functions we don't know. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2003/02/28/windows_update_keeps_tabs/ http://www.infoworld.com/t/microsoft-windows/look-the-black-underbelly-of-windows-81-blue-222175 http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40836.html
- Microsoft SkyDrive allows the NSA to directly examine users' data. http://www.itproportal.com/2014/05/14/microsoft-openly-offered-cloud-data-fbi-and-nsa/
- Windows 8 on “mobile devices” is a jail: it censors the user's choice of application programs. http://www.itworld.com/operating-systems/301057/microsoft-metro-app-store-lockdown
- Mobile devices that come with Windows 8 are tyrants: they block users from installing other or modified operating systems. http://fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/
>>54068508
It's entirely possible to disable [your emergency service here] cell triangulation/lockout services, and disable "shadow" gps tracking.
It's just very illegal, and you'll be hard pressed to find any good info on how via the open web.
now can we please just put this to bed and stop talking about it.
>>54065090
>be op
>be too retarded to search the archives for the numerous threads on the topic
