look at this shit
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/selecting-color-range-image.html
The defensiveness is palpable. the fucking BULLSHIT is so much you CAN'T cut it with a knife.
>Photoshop is an industry standard which means that Gimp can't replace it
>Photoshop is popular which means it's better
>We put a price tag on it which automatically makes it better then Gimp, which is free and way more convenient and efficent
Then they go on and say that Gimp is completely free, which is a good selling point, It's less taxing on your computer so it's not bloated and it's cross platform and can fucking run on any computer.
Then it bullshits that Gimp has a steep learning curve when all you need is right on the fucking first toolbar, it has a single window mode that is easily accessible if you're not an idiot who can google how-tos, because that shit is LITERALLY in the preferences, which most users should be looking at in the first place, which is in the same place as all the other preference settings because it's a standard.
Photoshop, however, is bloated. They have stacked tool bars and way too many fucking settings that a Gimp user can accomplish with the basic tools it shows at default.
The REASON they say that Gimp has a steep learning curve is that these fuckers are basically muscle-memoried to Photoshop, which does so much bullshit that they forget how to work a fucking paint program because it's LITERALLY JUST THAT FUCKING SIMPLE TO USE GIMP.
This article is one of the first things to show up when you type Gimp vs Photoshop or vice versa, by the way.
It makes me so fucking mad to see such bullshit on a front page of anything.
So, free alternative thread.
What are some free alternatives to shitty programs that are only used because they're advertised and marketed and cost way more then they're worth?
The only reason shit like Photoshop has a fucking subscription or a thousand dollar price tag is because they know how to bullshit.
Photoshop is better
>>54055993
have you used anything other then Photoshop or MS paint?
>>54055957
>Try Gimp
>move a layer
>can't draw beyond the arbitrary layer boundaries because good UX isn't free.
>uninstall and go back to photoshop
Stop trying to defend that shitty clunky unintuitive pile of wank that is Gimp
>>54056039
used gimp, photoshop, paint, paint.net, pinta even photshop applications on android but if you wanna do something professional u should use adobe photoshop
>>54056105
also used SketchBook
Photoshop and Gimp are interchangeable for your run of the mill fa/g/, since in either case 90% of the features will go unused. However, Photoshop is significantly more powerful than Gimp, so people needing a professional solution will use Photoshop, since Gimp can't really compete at that level.
Also, features that you don't have a use for are only bloat to you; it just means the work you do doesn't require them. It would be nice if PS were a bit more modular so you could run it trimmed of unneeded features, but it hardly hiccups even on your average consumer laptop.
With PS, you're paying for the concept of "Ok, Gimp /can/ do this, but we can do it better. Also, we have X features that you didn't realize you needed that Gimp doesn't, and likely never will since we pay people to dedicate their working lives to improving Photoshop" It is pretty damn expensive, though, and Adobe knows they can charge that much. Even at its current price point, the tool you get in return is still worth it.
>>54055957
>So, free alternative thread.
Photoshop CC is completely free on kat.cr
:^)
also idk who you're tryna convince with that "Gimp learning curve >muh skill >muh autism >muh smugness" nonsense
>>54056065
Right click on layer, Layer boundry size.
Retard. If you seriously threw away something because of one issue, you can't deal with frustration and you are literally in baby land at this point.
There are multiple ways to do that too, like creating another layer and drawing on top of it, then merging both together.
You can also change the image editor boundry size in the image tab, it's RIGHT FUCKING THERE.
If you bothered to actually get your bearings for three seconds instead of sperging out because you rely too much on an old method or muscle memory, you're not going to create shit in any industry.
If you took just 1 hour, maybe even less to roll through the settings and drop downs and think for yourself, you might actually be able to lighten the load on your fucking wallet instead of paying for SHIT THAT IS FREE.
You don't need 200 IQ to operate anything, you need to have the willingness to learn. And this ain't fucking rocket science ya little bitcher.
>>54056105
If you want to not pay and be able to do the same shit and faster, you use gimp. Photoshop is a scam.
>>54056184
Do you like paying for things that are free? Does photoshop make you feel good? smart?
>>54056232
>If you want to not pay
i never pay for any shit :^) everything is a free alternative for me.
>>54056232
>Retard. If you seriously threw away something because of one issue, you can't deal with frustration and you are literally in baby land at this point.
You must be unemployed if you think your time is worth nothing.
>>54055957
>The REASON they say that Gimp has a steep learning curve is that these fuckers are basically muscle-memoried to Photoshop, which does so much bullshit that they forget how to work a fucking paint program because it's LITERALLY JUST THAT FUCKING SIMPLE TO USE GIMP.
I spent half an hour trying to figure out how to draw a square in gimp before I gave up and googled it
Then I switched to krita and did the same in 5 seconds
>>54056232
This is the /g/ I used to know. I love all you mouth frothy aspies <3
>>54056278
Are you seriously going to ignore that you made an ametuer mistake because you can't handle thinking things through?
You literally closed out of a program because of one easily solvable issue you had.
You don't even have to think for yourself, you can fucking GOOGLE it, for fuck's sake.
>>54056294
>I spent half an hour trying to figure out how to draw a square in gimp before I gave up and googled it
>I spent half an hour trying to figure out how to draw a square in gimp before I gave up and googled it
>I spent half an hour trying to figure out how to draw a square in gimp before I gave up and googled it
>I spent HALF A FUCKING HOUR trying to figure out how to draw a FUCKING SQUARE in gimp before I gave up and googled it
Holy shit what is wrong with you people?
>>54055957
I'm so sorry for the rectal pain you must constantly be experiencing
>>54056330
I'm sorry that you keep company with idiots who can't draw a square without googling it, holy shit.
man, 4chan really did go to the shitter when tumblr invaded. No wonder people left for the exodus.
Do any of you even KNOW about technology, or is this just a board where you fap to computer chips because of a specific fetish?
>>54055957
>It's less taxing on your computer so it's not bloated
You're lying, OP.
>>54056322
>you
I'm not that guy, but I am calling you out on your bullshit.
You are more than welcome to spend your time Googling how to do your job, or you can be a professional who uses the tools and workflows he's already familiar with.
>>54056395
>baby duck syndrome must mean I'm a professional
>>54056430
Infinite excuses.
>>54056430
And yet Gimp will never be an industry standard. How sad
>>54056322
>Holy shit what is wrong with you people?
Tell me what's wrong with a drawing program that doesn't have a square tool
First you have to select a region, then you have to convert that selection to a path, then you have to convert that path to a stroke
gimp is so fucking ass backwards
>>54055957
Gimp is literal 0/10 software.
>>54056533
>gimp is so fucking ass backwards
don't you mean ass forwards? it's normal for your rear to be on the rear
>>54056395
or you can learn your tools through googling just once and retain that knowledge for the future instead of being a fucking hobbyist who only opens an image editor once in a while to add filters for memes.
You're fuckin' pathetic for hanging out with these goddamned dildos, I'm fucking ashamed that this board is even CALLED /tech/.
What are you, men or meek little fucks who can't even work a fucking tool without getting all buttmad?
Are you seriously so complacent that you're willing to get fucked in the ass all day long instead of finding a better way to work your craft? Or are you SERIOUSLY a child posting here acting like he's all tough because he's on the "big man" boards?
I work this shit for a living, I don't care if you believe me or not. You're a bunch of idiots who let these fuckers leech off of you with yet another subcription, when it's not the ridiculous pricings.
>>54056483
And for you, this means nothing about the actual tool. When you actually use both, the only real difference is the layout and how free it is.
Expensive programs are only the norm because they are marketed. What's really sad is that you think you can't work the craft without paying a ton of cash for brand name program, like fucking Gucci does.
All they make is clothes and there's a cutoff limit to how good clothes can be, just like image editors.
And you shit on Gimp, why? Because people were mean to you because you're being an idiot? They don't have to suffer you at all, they're telling you out of concern.
Seriously, get a goddamned clue. You'll learn the hard way or the easy way.
>>54056533
Or you know, you could eyeball it. or you could do what you just said and get used to it? OR, you could select a region, paint it black, then go back in with the selection tool and erase the center.
You really have no excuse, you dropped it because you could not draw a fucking square like a normal person.
>>54056322
Tell me when GIMP can work in 16/32-bit linear, XYZ or L*ab colorspaces or contain a proper color management engine
t. le krita face
>>54056578
>Or you know, you could eyeball it.
That's retarded.
>or you could do what you just said and get used to it?
But it's retarded.
>OR, you could select a region, paint it black, then go back in with the selection tool and erase the center.
Even more retarded jesus christ.
gimp cant even do non-destructive editing
>>54056578
>Or you know, you could eyeball it. or you could do what you just said and get used to it? OR, you could select a region, paint it black, then go back in with the selection tool and erase the center.
But that's not what I was doing. I was trying to draw a rectangle. You know, a normal one. Not a crippled, deformed one. Not an abortion that smoothly fades on one end and sharply cuts off on the other or has inconsistent line widths.
A NORMAL fucking rectangle. The likes of which even mspaint and kolourpaint can draw.
GIMP is literally the only image editor I have used in my life that does not have a rectangle tool
>>54056585
He does not know what those things are.
>>54056174
Came to post this ;^))))
>>54056602
>GIMP is literally the only image editor I have used in my life that does not have a rectangle tool
I think paint.net also doesn't have it. At least back in high school when I used it you had to do the selection thing to make a circle.
OP is like those underage Bernie callers. He does not know shit about topic he's trying to talk about.
>>54056640
>I think paint.net also doesn't have it. At least back in high school when I used it you had to do the selection thing to make a circle.
Must be selective brain damage because I'm pretty fucking sure paint.net has a big fat rectangle tool right here
drawn with my rectangle tool
>>54056596
Does GIMP at least let you edit textboxes after you've rotated/styled them?
>>54055957
Photoshop tries to be too many things at once (photo editing, digital painting suite, even video frame editing, etc.) It makes a lot of tools really confusing because how broad their scopes are.
GIMP is literally what it says on the tin (GNU Image Manipulation program) and does exactly that: it manipulates images.
It's scriptable, flexible and does everything you expect.
I use GIMP for photo editing and Krita for digital painting. I've had zero issues with either of them running on Dweebian.
>>54056685
Of course it does, as long as you don't flatten the text layer.
>>54056685
no. its fucking horrible. i mean, paint net is at least intuitive.
>>54056709
imagemagick > gimp
>>54056737
>imagemagick
my nigger; imagemagick is the only tool I trust when it comes to editing images.
Adobe can't program for shit, just look at how many vulnerabilities they churn out per month in flash and their released photoshop source code is fucking cthulhian nightmare
but imagemagick is literal GOAT when it comes to image editing
>>54056585
Or, you know, you can fucking pick your colors like a normal person instead of needing 74 color management systems.
Unless those fuckers can create colors unseen by man, you're nitpicking. And if it's for opacity reasons, you can do that shit in RGB with no problems because you can simply use brush settings and the Dynamics settings to make any sort of stroke.
>>54056596
Backup your layers, hide them, then throw them into a folder you goddamned idiot.
>>54056594
Complainer. Get a plugin for that if you're so lazy.
>>54056737
liar who hasn't even used it.
>>54056605
After reading >>54056770 I am convinced you are right.
That or he's just a cheap troll who's intentionally making it seem like he's clueless about the topic. Probably the latter.
OP no one cares that you love your glorified paint program and will defend it to the death. Calm down or please commit Sudoku
I've never used GIMP in my life. Is it actually good? I was always under the impression it was shit and impossible to work with. Does it even have the same tools as photoshop?
I use paint.net for everything I need edited. And when I want to actually draw I use SAI.
>>54055957
>way more convenient and efficent
Its not really
t.I use it. It might be free, but its abandonware.
>>54056783
Keep paying for free shit, then.
If you're just gonna say "oh he doesn't know what he's talking about" instead of saying constructive shit like refuting me, then you're saying worthless shit.
>>54056799
I'm not going to convince you and no one on this board should.
Load it up, test it out, give it a good chance and enter without getting frustrated like the autists above who enter with a closed mind and don't even try.
If you've operated MS paint, then you can operate Gimp.
Before you do anything, go through the drop down bars and test shit out, get familar with the tools.
There's no reason to NOT, because it's free. It's a quality program and the learning curve shit was propagated by this one article that's been up for years.
being afraid of learning is retarded. And there's not much to learn.
Gimp is useless pice of shit software and anyone that can't see that is either not using it to make money or freetard that can't use a simple keygen.
>>54056872
Do paid shills come on this board or something?
Seriously, the article in the OP has been on teh front page of most search engines and it was made in 2013.
Can you tell me WHY it's a piece of shit? Do you have any reasons? Personal experience?
Krita is better
>>54056770
Kek it's lazy to have a convenient square tool, everyone!
>>54056948
Kek it's a really advanced thing you know
drawing a square
I swear, it's like a fucking godly miracle if you can draw a square you guys
jeez, them squares sure are hard to draw!
Square drawing general, share your tips on how to draw squares!
>>54056847
>Keep paying for free shit, then.
>implying I pay for krita or imagemagick
now you're just getting sad
>>54055993
Photoshop is not worth the money for amateur photo editing.
It is, however, a significant improvement if you are in the business of drawing furry porn or "airbrushing" pig dog disgusting skeletal manfaced women into something slightly attractive for rags and ads
>>54056105
If you want to do anything professional consider going back in time and choosing a new career. Come the day of the reblog, artists will be the lower class, copyright won't exist, and society will be ruled by eunuch philosopher kings with too much autism to make connections with shady parties.
![[laughs minerally].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pckzxTc.jpg "[laughs minerally].jpg")
>>54056992
Then why are you so defensive about a program you don't even use?
>>54056987
What the fuck are you on about? Are you even 18 yet?
I'm not saying drawing a square is hard, but drawing a perfect square on screen is infinitely easier if you have a tool and infinitely more precise instead of using the retarded and obscure methods you mentioned before.
lmao gimp shills enjoy your shit workflow
>>54057018
what, you mean just drawing a square?
I don't think that's eldritch knowledge of the gods of the inner circle of the darkest depths, dude.
>>54057018
Oh, wait you're talking about googling a plugin.
What you can't follow directions? Jesus christ
the GIDF need to go
>>54057053
holy shit dude calm the fuck down. You can say what you want about photo editing but you can't deny a basic tool like a rectangle tool is important for good workflow
>>54057053
Create a pixel perfect square on screen without using a tool faster than using a tool.
You can't.
>d-dude you're dumb you can't even draw a square lel it's not secret knowledge!!!one11!
Why the fuck should I manually create squares all day when my program can do it perfectly for me? It's clear to me you've never done any photo projects that require precision.
>>54057078
you're still going on about your inability to draw rectangles? And again, you already had a workaround for it in one of your own posts.
AND if you don't like that, just fuckin' google a plugin.
Jesus dude, just stop, we're going in circles here.
>>54057073
A plugin? Nigga you are down your own rabbit hole.
>>54056669
>Must be selective brain damage
Quite possibly so.
>>54057096
Seriously, dude, there's a pixel x pixel count when you select shit with the square and circle selecting tools. And you already had a method for painting by path, so what's your fucking problem?
>>54057014
>Then why are you so defensive about a program you don't even use?
Krita and ImageMagick are both free and open source
I think you're mildly confused
>>54057147
And we weren't talking about them.
So why are you being so defensive towards photoshop?
I don't even know who's trolling who anymore.
Also I wish irfanview's paint plugin wouldn't crash as often.
>>54057144
I need to draw squares to make shitty MS paint comics, but my mac didn't come with MS paint
Seriously
>>54057159
I have not mentioned Photoshop in a single one of my 10 or so posts in this thread. All I pointed out was how shitty and unintuitive GIMP is compared to krita or even kolourpaint
>strawmanning this hard
>>54057179
seriously, why the fuck can't apple write their own mspaint
>>54057105
I'm not even the guy you were talking to. Just saying you look like a huge sperg.
>>54057199
you don't need it and shouldn't want it
if you want to draw squares don't buy a mac
>No layer effects
>Dong text borders is a fucking pain in the ass
>Shortcuts and UI is a fucking mess.
I wish GIMP was an alternative, but it isn't. It sucks. Hell, even Krita is better and that's mainly for drawing.
>>54057226
im not that guy you're arguing with
>Pixelmator - A proprietary fork of ImageMagick that has been in development since 2007, is better, more full fledged, easier to use, has as much features and is a far better alternative to Photoshop, than GIMP that has been worked on since 1995.
It's fucking embarrassing.
>>54057179
nigga you're retarded.
You bought a Mac. also there's free paint programs for Mac as well.
>>54057184
>>54057205
So does that mean none of you can draw squares?
Holy shit, you're all square blind.
Also this wasn't a krita thread, so you're the one who autistically brought it up without context.
>>54057231
>No layer effects
Oh, Lie number 1.
>Dong text borders is a fucking pain in the ass
Learn your effects and make a copy of your shit.
>Shortcuts and UI is a fucking mess.
Confirmed for not learning his shit. Just because it's different from the Photoshop that you buy does not mean it's a mess. If anything Photoshop is a mess due to having way too much shit that is honestly never used.
Photoshop is a subscription application. You pay $120-$240/year depending on whether you want the stripped down version or the full version. The only people who buy annual subscriptions at that price are professionals and enthusiasts who are really into art/photography.
At the bottom, you have paint.net which is gratis and closed-source.
Gimp fills the gap between the two.
I'm a shitty drawfag, and I made this on GIMP.
I'm sure I'm literally at the top 1% that can make the same with both GIMP and photoshop, so I'll give my opinion.
Yes, you can do anything on GIMP that you could make on photoshop.
But, to get to those ends the workflow is really odd and it feels like autism, while photoshop feels like cutting butter with a butterknife while making toast on a cold winter day while you're at home making hot coffee.
So, even while GIMP can do and has great plugins I still use like gimc that is great for coloring drawings and making masks, I wouldn't recommend GIMP.
most people use photoshop because it's the better solution, is not even a matter of competition.
GIMP as of current date, it doesn't have basic photoshop shit like:
- Folder layers (you will need this if you're doing something heavy).
- A fucking timeline (try to make animations on GIMP)
- Layer effects
- A fucking common transform tool.
I'm literally waiting the promissed 2.10 version since 2009 and I still haven't gotten it.
Yes, they made a single window, which is finally the only reason I can use now it.
Simply compare the feeling and power of both software brush engines, photoshop is years ahead anything GIMP has.
It's not even a competition, GIMP is simply a shitty graphics editor for those too lazy to pirate photoshop or when you don't want to pirate photoshop.
Only homeless neets that use loonix will even give a fuck about GIMP, the rest of normal people use phothoshop.
This is an original pasta, feel free to copy and add shit for all the newer discussions.
>>54057334
any way to make linux look like this ? give me the way /g/entloomens
is paint.net better?
>>54057335
You're having an autism attack over a fucking image editor you sperg
no one here gives a shit
calm the fuck down
>>54057376
Except Photoshop sucks because there's a dozen free programs that do the same shit and faster.
They market to "professionals" because they want to make money, their product is actually no different, if worse due to other programs having far more convenient features (like Gimp's color picker tool, which has settings that accomplish the same shit while in Photoshop you have to go through a bunch of menus).
>>54057431
You're not a drawfag if you're making collages and shitting them up to try to disprove that a free program is shit. If your pictures look like shit, YOU are the reason they do, not your program.
You need to man the fuck up and admit that it's you.
>>54057460
It's clear that none of you give a shit about technology, and seriously, look at where we are, you shithead. If you're not passionate, you're as good as dead. Why are you even here if you don't care about what this board's about?
>>54057460
You have the full list of Knights your pic is from, anon? I don't have it but want it.
>>54057491
I don't think I've seen a post of yours without "shit" and "fuck".
Stop teasing us, anon, where's your middle school at?
>>54057533
oh, now you faggots are tone policing like fucking tumblr? Where's your balls? Did you lose them when all the good posters left for greener pastures while your ass got invaded by a bunch of newfags from tumblr and reddit, because you're the "edgy" website?
Where's your pride, faggot? Why the fuck should YOU care if someone treats you with the respect you give others?
>>54056065
Ironically tesla has released most of his patents for electromotion. You are retarded as well, enjoy your windows updates and driver problems
>>54057491
because it was a picture I made in GIMP dumbass.
I actually use SAI to make dumb anime waifu OC.
because even SAI has a better brush engine than GIMP.
>Gimp color picker tool
is garbage and you have to config it to change it's default behaviour to pick the combined color of the layers.
Photoshop does this by default.
Also, simply compare photoshop Ctrl + T with GIMP?
come on, just try to give me an example of how GIMP has some comparable to that.
You need to click diferent tools where the context is not updated in real time.
Simply try to donwscale something and make it fit into a smaller rectangle in GIMP.
It's trash.
Also, literally mypaint 1.0 has a better brush engine than photoshop.
Hell, Ms paint in the newer windows has a better brush engine.
>>54057497
Only have this. It's a little more than the original
>>54057569
I wasn't asking for respect you angry child, I was asking where your middle school was. You read far too onto things, much like a child naive of the world does.
>>54057603
This is better than expected, thank you.
>>54057491
same 12 programs that can handle RAW images better or even the same as photoshop
name 12 programs that offer something that works half as good as content aware
i'll wait
>>54057594
>because it was a picture I made in GIMP dumbass.
Which sucks because you didn't bother to draw, you sourced other images and claimed that you're a drawfag. And unless you post your identity, you sure as fuck can't claim that as your own work.
>You need to click diferent tools where the context is not updated in real time.
What, is clicking too hard for you?
>Simply try to donwscale something and make it fit into a smaller rectangle in GIMP.
What is it with you people and this board's inability to cope with rectangles? Do you have a phobia?
>Also, literally mypaint 1.0 has a better brush engine than photoshop.
>Hell, Ms paint in the newer windows has a better brush engine.
Nigger, you can make your own brushes, you can change the brush dynamics (opacity fading etc) yourself, there's not much better then that.
>>54057639
Keep waiting faggot. I can tell you things you won't accept but it's not gonna solve shit. I ain't pandering to your deaf ass.
Only nerds with low self esteem prefer hard-to-use programs like gimp.
>if u think its hard its becuz ur dumb and im so smart
lol @ drawing shapes in gimp
>>54057674
i wasn't the original person you were talking to. i just joined this thread.
so do it, show me 12 programs that can handle raw images like photoshop. keep in mind gimp can't even do that
the content aware was just icing on the cake
>>54057610
The next thing you're gonna be calling me is a pathetic pissbaby or a shitlord, aint it?
Head back to tumblr, you conceited asswipe.
>>54057685
B-but you're an idiot if you can't into squares REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54057700
Srsly tho where u at bby so I can tell your mommy to wash your mouth out with soap.
I bet you're going to tell me to use shitty image editing software.
Oh wait.
>>54057720
kek top bantz
bet you're strayan
Paint.net master race reporting in
>>54057674
okay, I was giving easy examples.
I'll give you a real example:
Let's say I have a gif animation with a character doing something and he has a transparent background.
how would you add a simple background to this picture in all frames in GIMP?
Let's say the gif has 500-1000 frames.
It would take literally 5 seconds to do in phothoshop.
>inb4 filter
It has to be non destructible.
That's it, I should be able to edit all the frames at the same time or even change a few frames details.
It's literally baby game to do this in phothoshop.
>>54056361
Where did they go during the exodus? I think I'd rather go there too. This place iscomplete conformist shit.
>>54055957
Gimp is fucking trash. Get over it, freetard.
>>54057693
>can't handle raw images
What the fuck does that even mean? It can handle any sort of file for images. Content-Aware, etc.
Do you have ANY experience with gimp?
>>54057720
Now you're just devolving into silly insults based around net lingo, with no real joke involved.
Seriously, how is that funny if you're not salty about this? There's no joke other then "you're a babby who talks about editing software, boo hoo"
Who's the child again? Me, or you? If you're a grown adult saying this shit then you really cannot function.
>>54057761
I'm laughing my ass off, honestly. You're helping quite a bit because the seething rage behind your posts is most entertaining. None of your posts could be read passively, each and every one is angry and defensive. You're truly mad at strangers for not loving shitware like gimp.
>>54057750
Find it yourself. Here's a clue. The former website owner got so salty that people left when he went full SJW that he created a word filter for this site. It's a similar name and is the full picture, rather then half full.
>>54057792
I'm pissed that normies like you idiots eat this shit up and let them keep fucking you. You seriously don't think for yourselves and it's infuriating.
You circlejerk about as much as tumblr and reddit and the old days where everyone argued and argued and called your waifus and stuff shit are gone. Anyone with a dissenting opinion is banned here.
You live in hell, which is why we left.
more examples for OP since he's not at the level where he can see the diferences.
Does GIMP has something like the W tool in photoshop where you can customize it's threshold?
How bout the timeline, GIMP doesn't have one.
Also Fucking Layer folders that can be transformed or even basic shit you can do in photoshop.
Also Ctrl + T
>>54056872
i think youre just being a fanboi here.
please enlighten me as to why?
>>54057129
$YqQ BRn M8
>>54057817
>which is why we left
So leave again. No one will care about you and your gimp shilling.
Dang it now it's not fun anymore. No fun allowed.
>>54057761
but gimp cant even support raw files by itself, you have to use some 3rd party plugins like ufraw which dont offer the same features as adobe.
so gimp is not faster or better
>>54057835
>based ctrl + t
That alone wrecks gimp.
>>54057880
You see?
Are you seriously fine with people telling you that you're the best? Having no one to challange you?
I made this thread and you fucks are having a goddamned blast arguing with me, where's that gonna be when I'm gone?
Be confrontational, fucking CHALLENGE each other, don't be nice, nice is for when you have something to lose! for fuck's sake.
>>54057908
I looked through the photoshop shortcut list and found nothing.
But I assume you're talking free transform, because the one I found was Cntl+shift+t which repeats a transformation or some shit.
If you're talking about free transform, welp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLt3Uo5cMbA
Guess what, already in.
>>54057968
nigger, I'm the drawfag that posted before.
And I'm glad people like you still browse this chan.
it's very hard to have people to argue autistically.
It's nice to see GIMP having that.
does GIMP also have finally a fucking timeline for animations?
>>54058054
http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Using_GAP/
3 seconds of google, dude.
3 seconds of google.
Remember that old rule about spoonfeeding? If you can't easily find it yourself outside of google, then don't fucking ask.
Typed in "Gimp timeline" and this was the first goddamned result. If you're mad that i'm emphasizing this shit, you should be mad at yourself for not thinking for yourself, not me.
>>54058114
still waiting for those 12 programs that can do what photoshop can faster and better
you could at least name ONE
>>54055957
>free market decided it is better and dgaf what you think
get over it already
>>54058114
>literally have to install plugins
no nigger, if we also include photoshop actions and plugins, it's even more sad.
I was aware of that.
I'm asking about the default barebones software, not using fucking plugins.
want me to show you photoshop plugins?
Does GIMP even support macros?
>>54058135
you could stop being a faggot, but I guess we just can't help some things in life, now can we?
I already told you all over this thread, idiot.
>>54058172
oh no plugins
so horrible
someone, anyone save me from the plugins
one raped my sister once, this is my excuse
>>54058188
yes.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGLE
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGOT
>>54058191
His point was that when you include plugins into equation, PS rapes GIMP even more.
I still use a 12 year old version of Paint Shop Pro since I can't be bothered to learn a new interface :^)
>>54058213
You're trying to sell GIMP to us, why should we google something instead of just downloading Photoshop?
>>54058216
Is this a setup for a hentai?
Plugins can only do so much for you if you're shitty at everything.
>>54058231
because you have to google for Photoshop shit anyways, don't you? Which one is the free one, now? Besides, I said you can learn this shit if you take the time to check your workspace before, it's just that so many of you are asking questions when you could just google this shit instead, like you did when you started out with your first image editing program.
I don't see how googling shit is so fucking taxing for you people, if you seriously have to google something twice, you need to work on your memory retention.
>>54058191
so you want me to include photoshop plugins now?
>>54058269
>because you have to google for Photoshop shit anyways, don't you?
Not really. Why should I? It mostly self-explanatory.
>>54058269
nigger already told you I use gimp once in a while.
you come as butthurt simply because GIMP is garbage in something as basic as keyshortcuts.
>but you can rewind them.
yeah, just like anything in GIMP has to be configured properly because the defaults are trash.
>>54058269
but gimp literally cannot even handle raw images without plugins. and even with them it cant do what photoshop can
>>54058281
do you want to stop being a faggot?
Anything Photoshop can do, Gimp can do as well. Via plugins or basic, it doesn't matter. One's free and the other costs a shitload.
>>54058314
You clearly are having selective memory here. You had a hell of a lot of trouble when you opened up the damn thing and you're lying here because you want to invalidate my argument that people have to rely on others.
If you didn't need to google to figure out Photoshop, then why's Gimp any different, retard? It's because you're complacent and don't want to learn a simple AND free program to save cash. You're scared of change, I get it, we all do. But are your seriously content with staying the same when you could be better, overall?
>>54058333
But WITH plugins, it can.
soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo what's the issue?
Also it was updated and CAN handle raws. I just checked.
goooooooooooooooooooooooogle it. I'm tired of spoonfeeding.
>>54058351
but isn't paint.net better?
>>54058370
is it?
>>54058336
>One's free and the other costs a shitload.
Those who actually need it to work can easily afford it. In exchange they get standard SW that can ensure fluent workflow and interoperability. Others just get it for free. You have no point.
The fact that GIMP doesn't handle RAW or color spaces discriminates it from any serious work.
>>54058336
But photoshop literally does it better.
Show me how content aware compares to photoshop.
>>54058386
>Those who actually need it to work can easily afford it. In exchange they get standard SW that can ensure fluent workflow and interoperability. Others just get it for free. You have no point.
So you're admitting that you're paying for something that is free.
Are you mentally sound? You justm proved my point.
Is there a point to buying free shit?
>>54057335
Want to tell me what they are, excluding the proprietary one that cost $5 and can only be obtained through the apple DRM store?
>>54058407
>but it does it better, honest
Prove it, faggot with cheese.
>>54058420
>costing money
wow, you've turned me off already
look at all these plugins that do the same shit as photoshop, my hard drive can't hold all 4 of these 1kb plugins
>>54058410
Read it again, you selectively ignored half of the first and whole second part.
>standard SW that can ensure fluent workflow and interoperability.
Can GIMP do it too? No, simply because nobody actually uses it and for a reason.
>>54058336
>free
I can pirate photoshop.
>but piracy is inmoral
get rekt faggot.
your linux software is inferior.
>>54058436
You are the one who said it, the burden of proof is literally on your especially when everyone in the world knows photoshop is better.
>>54058441
That's because it's a bunch of nonsense garbage you made up to sound smart.
Gimp has both. Interoperability or whatever the fuck means you can understand it when you go into it, which just means in this case that you're too lazy to learn a system.
and fluent workflow means that you're saying that it's easier to work with, in this case because you know where the buttons are, which again means you're a lazy bastard who's only paying because you don't want to learn a free system because, well, you're a lazy bastard.
So now you know why I didn't address that absolute garbage, you cretin.
>>54058490
>specially when everyone in the world knows photoshop is better.
>everyone in the world knows photoshop is better.
Knows or think they know? Do you know for certain, have you compared? No, you have not.
It's better because it does the same shit and is free. can you prove me wrong? No? because that means you'll have to actually go outside your comfort zone, you little pampered, fucked in the ass faggot.
>>54058534
But I said show how its content aware is the same or better than photoshop.
It is a real simple request
>>54058546
Can you show me how?
Because if you can't prove yours is better and you're sending me on a goose chase, then I have no prerogative to follow your dumbass request.
If YOU can show me how yours is better then mine, then I am soundly defeated. So go on, show me.
>>54058534
Interoperability is not usability, nigger. If you work with other people you want it to work reliably, not to mention it easily integrates into other Adobe products that helps a lot if you do more thatn just image macros for 4chan.
And once again, you ignored the point about colorspaces. It's one of the most important point in professional software that required if you work with multiple devices or even a printer. It should be on top of feature list, not just a plugin afterthought (if it actually works).
>>54058576
>gimp is better!
>show me and example
>no, YOU show ME an example!
>>54058619
I told you it does all the shit that photoshop does, and it's free?
How is that not better? Do you prefer paying instead of saving up?
>>54058611
>If you work with other people you want it to work reliably
Oh in that case it also meets that requirement.
It has it's own shit it integrates into, like GAP, which is for animation.
So, what's your issue?
>>54058707
price does not it better, the actual images it produces does.
>>54055957
Try doing a layer outline stroke in gimp vs photoshop. It takes way more clicks in gimp, and worst of all you have to bake it down immediately, you can't change the pixel size dynamically later.
Fuck of with this 'gimp is just as good as photoshop' bullshit.
>>54058707
>Oh in that case it also meets that requirement.
You have no clue, do you? You're a kind that would go into corporation trying to tell everybody to use LibreOffice, aren't you?
>>54058707
>I told you it does all the shit that photoshop does, and it's free?
Money are not an issue, so people can choose based on feature list. And the did.
Does GIMP have something like this?
