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Everytime I play a video or go to a tab that's playing a video/webm I get a black screen for a sec. This is not visible when I record my screen. Does anyone know how I can fix this? I've googled the problem but nothing has come out of it.
>>54051056
does the whole screen go blank or just the area where the video is playing?
>>54051056
I have a similiar problem when I open the Gnome3 system settings on my pc with an old Nvidia Card. It doesn't happen on my laptop with Intel Graphics. Maybe it's that?
>>54051056
>>54051086
compton --config /dev/null --backend glx --vsync opengl-swc --paint-on-overlay
>>54051113
I don't have compton I think
>>54051071
whole screen
Laptop. 1366x768. Programming.
Should I use i3 or awesome?
>>54051142
the one you like better after testing.
all i can think of is maybe to recompile the kernel, check and set the video card configuration, because its some form of system hang
>>54051191
that was a reply for >>54051122
I'm running gentoo and I really enjoy tweaking my kernel.
I'm just wondering, are there any barely noticeable mistakes that are common for newbies when configuring their kernel? e.g. setting cpu frequency scaling to userspace and then forgetting to set up userspace programs.
Oh and I commonly find myself browsing the arch wiki when I troubleshoot, are there any other distros with such an extensive documentation?
>>54051212
debian has great documentation and a nice handbook. but the best resource are manpages and info.
Is systemd actually bad or is just a meme?
>>54051285
Yes
>>54051285
depends
>>54051285
I believe thats a rather subjective thing.
I'd recommend reading arugments from both sides.
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd
Okay guys so I come here for guidance.
I have experience as a sys admin but exclusively on Windows Server. I want to learn linux.
What would you recommend me to do ?
>>54051386
I do like how easy enabling and disabling a service is with systemd. Just open a terminal and type systemctl enable service. And i like how you can reboot from terminal without messing around with sudoers file.
Is ubuntu good distro for beginner?
>>54051466
Don't forget the fact that those commands should work on any major distro that is running systemd
>>54051470
It sure is! Fedora is pretty good too but takes a little customizing, so maybe you could leave Fedora to try out later on when you know more. You might want to wait 1 week for Ubuntu 16.04 to be released. It will be released on the 21st. Good luck.
>>54051433
install Ubuntu or any other easy distro on your main pc at home and on something else, like an old unused notebook or a raspberry pi. Then learn how to administrate your new "server". At least that's what I'm doing
>>54051470
Yes. Look at screenshots of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu or Lubuntu before choosing one of them and decide which one looks the nicest to you
>>54051545
>Fedora takes customizing
Such as?
>>54051470
Id say no
But its ight if you just dont want windows
Not a nice linux tho
>>54051433
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bju_FdCo42w&list=PLtK75qxsQaMLZSo7KL-PmiRarU7hrpnwK
>>54051559
Stuff like font rendering and third party repos that someone as a beginner might get frustrated with.
>>54051623
Using steam and Skype is not something everyone needs to do.
>>54051594
Arch is shit and not for beginners.
Yes, I know you're on arch.
>>54051623
Font rendering is great out of the box, imo, and it's pretty easy to change. And adding third party repos is the easiest thing ever(at least the rpmfusion is easy)
Why doesn't fedora get a proper kernel?
They have a pretty nice policy about nonfree software, buy why not removing that last kernel bit to be a freetard distro?
>>54051635
Mpv is not even in the official repos. mp3s will not even play by default. Also, you realize there's both a free and nonfree rpmfusion, right? These are why ubuntu is a better choice for a beginner.
>>54051653
Because some people need microcode and firmware.
There is a freetard version of fedora.
>>54051653
Because they care about hardware working. Very few hardware configurations will work on a libre kernel.
>>54051598
Thanks.
>>54051549
I actually have an old PC. Will play with it.
>>54051680
>>54051675
>not standing up for freedom like a real man
>>54051653
Because behind Fedora is Red Hat.
>>54051721
That doesn't answer anything. Fedora is one of the most free, though not quite FSF approved, distros.
What and where do I edit Ubuntu 15.10 so I can get it to allow users from an Active Directory to login.
>>54051638
Nicely guessed
Id recommend manjaro
>>54051755
you mean with samba?
>>54051816
Yes.
>>54051470
I would personally seriously encourage the use of the Ubuntu "flavor" GNOME 3, which does not have the default Unity desktop environment that a lot of people hate. Unity's not neccessarily ugly, it's just very alien and can be off-putting. GNOME is more akin to linux. Consider Mint with the Cinnamon DE.
But yes, ubuntu is my go-to due to its ease of use and wide support.
>>54051827
https://jimshaver.net/2014/07/13/setting-up-an-active-directory-domain-controller-using-samba-4-on-ubuntu-14-04/
man samba
https://wiki.debian.org/SambaDomainController
https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/FAQ
>>54051914
I'm already on the domain with PBIS and its a different process from 14.04 I need a 15.10 solution. I already edited the lightdm.conf file and I need to know of there is anything else I need to edit
WHY THE FUCK IS GLADE 3 USING GTK 2 WIDGETS!? HOW CAN I MAKE IT USE GTK+3?
REEEEEEEE
>>54051912
>GNOME is more akin to linux
><insert DE> is more akin to <insert kernel>
JUST
When I go and select the live version od Debian I get numerous options.
Which one should I chose ?
>cinnamon
>gnome
>kde
>lxde
>mate
>standard
>xfce
>>54052117
I meant to type that GNOME is more akin to the kind of UI you'd experience in windows instead of linux. I have no idea how it came out that way. I'm very tired, I suppose. I ought to sleep.
>>54052147
Cinnamon, best balance between computational intensiveness, functionality, and aesthetics.
>>54052161
>I meant to type that GNOME is more akin to the kind of UI you'd experience in windows instead of linux.
...yea...you really ought to sleep
>>54052166
>functionality
Now, gnome has a significantly larger library of widgets. LXDE if you're running on a potato. Otherwise, cinnamon.
>>54052179
Compared to unity, it provides a much more windows-like UX.
>>54052166
>>54052213
I will try cinnamon then. It might be a potato so thanks for the LXDE suggestion.
I'm gonna build myself a home server today. Going to be strictly for personal/friends/family access, almost universally locally.
Is it worth running a dedicated "server" distro? Is Ubuntu Server 16.xx LTS going to happen any time soon? I'm deciding between that, Fedora Server, and Arch (gonna be headless so don't have to worry about x crashing kek).
Should I just get over myself and install Ubuntu or Debian on it, or stick with a server OS?
>>54052230
Mind, LXDE is somewhat ugly. But it does what it should as a DE without any frills.
>>54052032
Anyone? Is it even possible to get Glade 3 to actually use GTK+ 3 instead of the depreciated GTK 2? I get compiling errors because this piece of shit only supports a depreciated version of GTK.
>>54052239
CentOS
>>54051740
Yes, but Fedora is fundamentally a repackaged, free RHEL. It always has been. They cannot remove the Red Hat kernel without changing their roots/development philosophy.
>>54052239
>debian OR a server OS
uh...
>>54052333
>RHEL branches it's release from versions of Fedora.
It's the other way around m8
>>54052303
Is CentOS needed? I'm just going to be using it for media sharing (smb/nfs/sftp) and SSH mostly, isn't CentOS for more enterprise-related stuff or am I mistaken?
>>54052289
Anyone?
>>54052399
CentOS has a great installer from which you can choose exactly what you want your server to be, from categories such as web/email server, file sharing. It automatically picks packages based on your chosen categories, or you can individually hand pick your packages.
>>54052383
>>54052117
>>54051699
>shitposting in /flt/
yep /g/ is doomed
>>54052408
>frogposting while asking for help
>>54052430
huh, that sounds awesome. I'll give CentOS a try then, thanks.
>>54052430
>>54052471
Is the minimal ISO a net installer or is it a relatively naked install w/o the installer you described?
>>54052448
>muh secret clubhouse
>>54052487
I'm not really sure. The larger version comes with all the needed packages so you can install what ever is necessary. not really sure how the other one works,
What's a distro I can use than nobody will make fun of me for?
>>54052594
TempleOS
So I want to switch, but what is the BEST linux?
>>54052559
cool, I'll just dig around for an 8gb flash drive lol.
Thanks for the help.
>>54052594
dragonfly bsd
>install gentoo
>emerge chromium
>mksnapshot segfaults
Nice OS retards.
>>54052594
Windows 2000
>>54052614
>BSD
>Beter Serve Dick
>corporate cuck
look at him and laugh
>>54052607
GNU Linux-libre
>>54052594
debian, fedora, mint, ubuntu 16.04
>>54052647
>old packages
>memehat distro
>cracked distro
>amazuntu
Try again.
>>54052635
>gnu linux
>gnu
>letting someone else define your freedumbs
you live in a cage and don't even realize it
>>54052671
Oh, look, it's that faggot again.
>>54052662
>adding other repos is as trivial as it gets in debian
>"wah a company supports an open source project"
>mint's isos were literally never compromised
>amazon disabled by default in 16.04
your shit memes aren't viable criticisms
>>54052671
>>letting someone else define your freedumbs
Better than letting a company decide your freedums
>>54052594
this is fucking 4chin kiddo
in real life, nobody will fuck with you for using an OS unless they have a neckbeard
>>54052709
>implying cyberspace isn't also real life
Fucking normies.
>>54052705
sorry bruh but I define my own ideas of freedumb and that includes using the best tool for the job, instead of using the most libre tool for the job
>>54052460
>not frogposting when asking for help
>posting the facebook frog
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54052729
That doesn't make sense
>>54052746
and that my friend is why you can't see the cage you live in
>>54052709
>implying the Wired isn't a real physical space
>>54052745
>facebook frog
lulz
>>54052757
>not having left your house all day because too busy posting on 4chan
Why should I install Linux. Convince me.
how do I change the default terminal launched by i3 when you hit mod+enter?
>>54052792
what are you using now and how are you using it?
>>54052810
Windows for mostly gaming and work related things.
>>54052852
What kind of work related things?
Have you considered the security risk of doing work on windows?
>>54052874
See there's a reason.
No I have not. Is it that bad?
Loosely GNU/Linux - since I'm running Debian with just ufw on default settings (because I don't really know what I'm doing)
When logging into public Wi-Fi (coffee-shops, guest wifi, etc) what precautions need to be taken to ensure safe browsing? Can you protect yourself somehow or are you extremely vulnerable with no way around it?
Thanks for your time friends
>>54052919
>Debian with just ufw on default settings
Uninstall it and install a hardened version. If you don't have SSP and other security features enabled your system is literally more vulnerable than Windows devices.
>>54052900
It's common knowledge that windows is one of the most commonly targeted OSes for viruses and the like. Almost every OS can be made secure/insecure, but generally speaking, linux distributions are more robust and secure.
>>54052919
A firewall does not stop people from listening in. Wi-Fi is inherently insecure, but I suppose a VPN to your home computer would be more secure. Can anyone confirm that?
Can someone post their Gentoo USE flags?
>>54052792
>>54052900
Honestly if you need convincing, chances are you're better off staying in Windows if you're comfortable with it.
IF, however, you are uncomfortable with it due to your own experience or to raised doubts such as its security and its spying on users, then by all means feel free to stick around and ask more questions friend
On the games-side: fortunately Gaben and other personalities are pushing for a huge library of games to become available on Linux, they're already making huge advances. Also the advent of Vulkan API for GPU's is HUGE news, because it means Microsoft can't shackle developers to DirectX. Everyone can see the smoke and can tell MS is up to no good in the near future for vidya.
For games I'm pretty well covered on linux with Steam, GOG, and the ocassional Wine. I happen to have a small Windows partition still left on my hard drive for those recent games that just don't play nice with Linux yet, like Rainbow Six Siege or the Witcher 3. All of my work and everything else is on Linux though
>>54052952
Could you perhaps hold my hand a bit and guide me through the security essentials I MUST install right now, on both my laptop and home computer?
I guess I've been pretty naked security wise. I was told by some people around here ufw was all I needed, guess they were wrong?
>>54052987
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>54052980
So when using a laptop on public Wi-Fi there's no way to somehow mask my activity?
>>54053027
Yes, thank you Mr. Richard, my apologies.
>>54052987
cuck spotted
>>54052952
>no data is parsed due to firewall
>you still need SSP
uh..?
This kind of relies on being able to be a MITM, no?
>>54052980
Ah okay.
>>54052987
The spying really shook me. When I looked into what gets shared on Windows 10 it seemed rather ridiculous.
Do I need a strong understand of coding and whatnot to properly utilize linux?
>>54053042
Please take your memes somewhere else, this is a friendly thread
>>54053052
>Do I need a strong understand of coding and whatnot to properly utilize linux?
Yes
>>54053052
Not at all.
My old folks use it. And they're 60 and don't know anything about computers. That should tell you enough
It's always a good idea to start with a beginner friendly 'distro' (short for distribution) that will automate most things and give you sane defaults. Recommended ones to look into are any flavor of Ubuntu and Linux Mint
>>54053077
Why are we getting raided by trolls again
>>54053014
http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/current-stage3-amd64/hardened/
Download hardened stage 3 archive, follow normal Gentoo handbook.
>>54053048
>>no data is parsed due to firewall
>>you still need SSP
There are literally webms that can give attackers remote code execution if you're using Firefox on Linux. If you have SSP the browser will crash and PAX will give you a nice little notice that "/usr/bin/firefox" or whatever tried to smash the stack. Just because you're on a "safe" network doesn't mean you should be running an OS that doesn't have basic security features.
>>54053035
Your data is out in the open. No, there's really no way to stop it. Encryption is supposed to help, but in reality, WiFi encryption is usually easily defeated (or in the case of a coffee place, bypassed by simply asking for the password. if they're there, set up before you are, there's no way around it) However, the risk of attack is kind of low. Then again, it's fairly easy to do such an attack.
>>54053089
>follow normal Gentoo handbook
But I'm on Debian. No difference? (sorry if dumb question)
>>54053087
I've used Ubuntu before ona friends computer and it wasn't bad. So besides security what else can I gain?
>>54053114
Youre' gonna report some mad gainz brah
>>54053035
Tor
>>54053052
No, you don't need a strong understanding of coding. You'll almost invariably learn how to edit config files and use a terminal, though. It's not as difficult as you might think, and is quite helpful.
>>54053089
>remote code execution
What kind of stuff are we talking about here? Unix commands?
>>54053114
FREEEEDOOOMMM
>>54053146
>Unix commands
What is this?
>>54053106
Massive difference.
>>54053138
Troll.
>>54053149
Please elaborate.
>>54053133
sah dud
>>54053146
Terminal is basically CMD correct?
>>54053114
Whenever a company (Microsoft) or someone else can run arbitrary code on your computer without your permission, it's not your computer anymore. This goes from mandatory forced updates to ads to anything they want to shove down your throat. And you can't do anything about it, because it's THEIR operating system and they get to control it, and therefore you.
GNU/Linux offers you the chance of actually owning your computer. No surprises. You have complete control over it - what it does, what it has on it, when it updates, IF it updates, everything.
It offers you complete control, where Microsoft is using you as their product.
>>54053182
The terminal is basically CMD, only on steroids.
>>54053182
Yes, the terminal is the command line. You will find using the command line on GNU/Linux is extremely easy and intuitive though.
Jesus christ, windows' cmd is godawful to work with
>>54053187
10/10 quality post
>>54053182
You won't be shackled in proprietary PRISON any longer. When you use a proprietary program, you don't control your computer. The company that made that program controls you. You need to be able to know exactly what that program is doing, otherwise you have no clue. Even if you can't read source code, other people can, and someone will speak up if they find something weird in it. That is freedom. The freedom to know, the freedom to share, the freedom to control.
>>54053146
>learn how to edit config files
So, like, basic reading and writing skills?
>>54053187
>>54053213
This makes me want to install Linux...
>>54053209
>>54053208
So it can do what that CMD can't?
>>54053178
then what can you recommend for security essentials on Debian, anon?
>>54053106
You might be able to find a hardened Debian. I only know how to install Gentoo.
>>54053146
>>remote code execution
>What kind of stuff are we talking about here? Unix commands?
Everything. If you can run arbitrary code then it's trivial to make a system() call and run any command available as a normal user.
>>54053240
Unix pipes are kind of a big deal. It can do that and a looot more than cmd. Also the ability to set your own aliases, and very easy and memorizable commands that improve your workflow
If you become enough of a terminal wizard, you can get your job done x10 faster than when just clicking on some window.
Of course, this is not needed. You can just work like you're used to as well
I'm trying to download contents of ftp using wget, but I can't get it right.wget -m ftp://ftp.icm.edu.pl/pub/msdos/
It complains that coast, mizug and simtelnet don't exist. When I visit that ftp using web browser, I can browse freely.
How do I download contents of msdos directory on that ftp?
Hey guys, absolute beginner here, i'm having an issue running arch on a virtual machine. I have my account set up it seems like and I can get arch to run, I just cant get a windows manager to run. Closest I've gotten leads to a arch to hang on this screen forever instead of starting gnome.
Guise how do I make redshift autostart with the system?
>>54053240
Too many things to list, to be honest.
Do note that while some video games do work in Linux, and some work quite well, most modern games will not work or work very poorly. But using gpu-passthrough and virtualization, you can run a copy of windows within linux with little performance drop. This assumes that you have a spare, dedicated GPU, and hardware in general that supports virtualization. This is something I'm aiming to get in the future.
>>54053326
Why are you installing ArchLinux when you're an absolute beginner?
Well, at least it's on a virtual machine...
Everytime i connect a second monitor to my laptop the wallpaper gets messed up on the second monitor, so i need to reapply it everytime. Is there some solution to make it reapply itself of some sort so the wallpaper becomes normal when connecting a second monitor. I'm using arch with i3 and catalyst drivers and feh as my wallpaper manager
>>54053340
from what I heard the documentation is a lot simpler. Do you think I should switch to gentoo or mint? I'm not interested in Ubuntu.
>>54053240
>>54053336
Like the anon said above, GPU passthrough is a thing - but it's still very much an arcane procedure to undertake, specially for a newbie.
Honestly you're better off finding out if the games you want to play are on Linux. If they are, fantastic, you're set. If some aren't and you really want them, you can use Wine in Linux. If they're relatively new however, you might want to keep a small partition of Windows for those. That's what I do for very new releases that aren't getting Linux support
>>54053284
And this is a problem inherent to the system, rather than firefox?
>>54053358
You heard wrong.
The ArchWiki is majestic, sure thing. But it's only majestic if you know what you're doing already, for the most part. It tends to assume you know a lot more than what you actually know when you're a newbie.
And Gentoo is even farther down the deep end than Arch for a beginner m8.
Linux Mint is a good derivative of Ubuntu. I used it for a few months before switching to Debian, once I was comfortable. There's nothing wrong with Ubuntu though, some would argue it's better than Mint. What turned you off from it? The Unity interface? Because if so I encourage you to also consider other alternative Ubuntu flavors such as Ubuntu GNOME, Xubuntu, etc
>>54053376
>rather than firefox
If you're trusting EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION on your system to keep you safe, then you're fucked. There is literally no drawback to having SSP and other system hardening features, and it turns compromising a system from a skiddy command to an alphabet agency project.
>>54053327
I think this varies from DE to DE (or WM). What DE are you using?
>>54053394
Mostly the unity interface, I wanted to try out tiled window managers to improve my workflow.
I think I'll give Mint a try
>>54053240
>This makes me want to install Linux...
You'll install it, play around for 15 minutes and go back to your games on Windows. No offense.
>>54053409
But you can rebuild firefox itself with SSP, no? Rather than having to run out and build from scratch.
>>54053394
Mint is a pointless fork of Ubuntu. Never use it, ever. It has serious security issues and is ancient as fuck.
>>54053435
Way to encourage people, you dick.
>>54053430
Just use Ubuntu like a normal person, Mint is terrible.
>>54053435
Hey, that's how I started. Now I use it as my primary work OS.
>>54053447
Maybe he had a bad day. Or life. We'll never know.
>>54053430
...you can use literally any DE or WM on Ubuntu, man.
Go browse the flavors of Ubuntu and see if you like any of the DE's. If you're bent on trying WM's, then go Xubuntu and then install your tiled window managers, since it will have way less bloat than Ubuntu, Kubuntu or Ubuntu GNOME
>>54053447
What's worse, being honest and blunt or being all lovey dovey enthusiastic and most likely getting disappointed later? Because that's what will happen to him. I could explain it more thoroughly, but what's the point anyway.
>>54053459
>>54053440
Back when I was picking my distro I chose mint because /g/ said ubuntu is amazon botnet. And now you're all just shilling it. What happened?
>>54053410
Plasma. I thought DE doesn't matter though. It's CLI, conf files based.
>>54053482
Ubuntu listened to the community and removed the Amazon bullshit
Mint is still a good alternative imo. But to each his own
>>54053484
I may be confused, but I think it has to start after your DE/WM.
>>54053492
>it was easy as fuck to opt out of
>it was a reasonable way to add income to the project
[swedish_nutritionist.jpg]
Why are the Debian devs so based?
Every single time I've filed a bug report they've gotten back to me in less than a day and helped me out quickly and in a very friendly manner
I'd really like to become involved with them someday once I feel like a more competent programmer
>>54053492
http://www.zdnet.com/article/hacker-hundreds-were-tricked-into-installing-linux-mint-backdoor/
>>54053436
Yes, but security is all about layers. Build layers of security on top of each other and the bad guys will have to break through all of them to get what they want. With Linux, if you use a distro like Gentoo that compiles everything anyways, you can have SSP for every application as well as for the kernel, and updating applications requires no extra work.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/to-the-space-station-and-beyond-with-linux/
Ubuntu/Debian is in space.
>>54053543
>>54053508
Right, I can start it from terminal manually, but how do I make it start automatically after I log in.
>>54053541
THIS FUCKING MEME I SWEAR TO GOD.
Their website got compromised for a day in February. A fucking day. And they solved the issue while actively reporting to the community what was happening. And they've taken measures to amp their web security so it doesn't happen again
Fucking hell you guys are going to make me burst a vein here with the frequency of how much misleading shit you hear here. I thought we were a bit safer from memes in /fglt/
>>54053314
I used filezilla and it worked.
I'm some jobs in the background by using the & symbol and using an alias#in my zshrc
alias tunnel='ssh -nNT -L xxxxx xxxxxx xxxx & ssh -nNT -L xxxxx xxxxxx xxxx &'
#shell
$ tunnel
$
But every time I enter a command, it reports back that process are still running[1] $PID running ssh -nNT -L xxxxx xxxxxx xxxx
[2] $PID running ssh -nNT -L xxxxx xxxxxx xxxx
Is there a way to have zsh remain silent about it and only report if the processes died?
Why find nags about this:
for BURGER in $(find /far/away/land/ -maxdepth 1 -type f -iname "*freedom*"); do
eat $BURGER
rm $BURGER
done
Same with GNU parallel:
function FREEDOM() {
eat $1
rm $1
}
export -f FREEDOM
find /far/away/land/ -maxdepth 1 -type f -iname "*freedom*" | parallel -j 32 FREEDOM {}
>>54053598
>using zsh
>>54053570
Don't get me started, motherfucker. GNU software accounts for the majority of Linux vulnerabilities, and it's not because there's so much of it. DNS resolver vulnerabilities in a fucking C library? Are you fucking kidding me? I hope no one used that heap of shit glibc in an embedded system, because that shit's going to be vulnerable forever.
>>54053578
Fuck your shitty irish distro. It has nothing ubuntu has except MORE proprietary software. Fuck that, and fuck you.
>>54053543
Are you being targeted by cartels or the feds or something? There's being security-minded and there's being... whatever this is. Keeping your software up to date quickly becomes hell when you have to manually check for updates and manually build from source every time, no? Like that one image.
>>54053637
I don't even use the motherfucker and yet I feel inclined to defend it from memesters like you.
>>54053637
I hear it's based on an older Ubuntu version? True or meme?
>>54053470
>>54053394
oh god thank you for saving me from myself
>>54053663
It's based on the Ubuntu Long Term Support version and they fork their development from there. Stable base for development. Stabler than current Ubuntu
>>54053618
>GNU software accounts for the majority of Linux vulnerabilities
Sorry, but stopped reading here; you're complete tech illiterate.
>>54053618
>Are you fucking kidding me?
thanks to 4chan i can never take people saying this seriously ever again.
>>54053674
lol "stable" meme. It's just old.
>>54053663
Yes, it's from 2 years ago.
>>54053695
>he thinks stability is a meme
>>54053679
Linux is the name of the OS and the kernel.
>>54053729
In the case of Linux meme it is. They don't fucking have security patches. So you're just using outdated vulnerable software.
So my Debian installation is stuck at
>detect network hardware
Google doesn't provide any good answers.
>>54053747
Nah Linux is the name of that one programmer
>>54053653
>Are you being targeted by cartels or the feds or something? There's being security-minded and there's being... whatever this is.
>>help /g/, all my family's documents and pictures just got cryptolockered
>Keeping your software up to date quickly becomes hell when you have to manually check for updates and manually build from source every time, no?
You can set up a cron job at midnight once a week or something thatemerge --sync && emerge -DuvaN @worldand everything will be automatically updated. As long as you don't manually etc-update and replace your config files, it should be relatively stable.
>>54053688
I was going for that, a little. glibc is still a heap of shit though.
>>54053729
It actually is. Stability is something you need for servers, but not for desktop computers.
The deb-multimedia repository package includes mplayer, right?
That should be the case because that's what everyone everywhere says, so why didn't I end up with an installation of mplayer?
>>54053772
Gee, I sure would hate to have my computer bricked by some premature updates instead of having it work solid and stable when I needed it to be.
>>54053756
I thought linux was the penguin.
>>54053761
>CryptoLocker is a ransomware trojan which targeted computers running Microsoft Windows
>>54053752
Hm. Maybe your hardware's not getting picked up because of lack of free drivers?
Try using a netinstall that includes non-free stuff. It's in their website
>>54053787
"Stability" doesn't mean what you think. Stability in tech means no development to keep a thing stable. You also may think that LTS versions never break and point releases may - this is also wrong. The only systems that MAY break are rolling releases.
>>54053798
>cryptolockered
Any ransomware. Knowing /g/, they'd run Firefox in wine and get a Windows version to run.
>/g/ getting triggered by cryptolockered
What's next, a paragraph on ganoo/words to avoid about how we need to replace cryptolockered with GNURansomwared?
>>54053812
>netinstall when experiencing network problems
por que
>>54053846
what ransomware is there out there for linux?
>>54053846
Feel free to start here: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html
How do you keep your Arch Linux install clean, organized properly backed up?
Talking about /etc/ here, installed packages, modified packages, home directory, orphans etc. Share your tips
>>54053812
>>54053865
Oh shit sorry, my bad. I meant a normal install that includes non-free stuff. Fuck I'm tired
>>54053865
Linux.Encoder.1
>>54053865
>linux
>>54053888
No worries. Get some food, turn off your computer and get some sleep. There's literally no reason to wait to sleep if you're tired.
>>54053888
Why don't you like freedom?
What's the best and most comfy VM for GNU/Linux?
>>54054009
its just linux
>>54054009
gnome-boxes is super comfy. Limited, but comfy. Like the rest of Gnome
>>54053888
nonfree software should be something you only install because there's no other way your computer wll work. I hate that I need firmware blobs to run my wireless, but I begrudgingly do it while I wait for a replacement.
I'm testing out some distros in virtualbox so I can find something acceptable to install on my 14 year old toaster with 512 MB of RAM. Firefox and chrome are too fucking bloated, are there any super lightweight browsers out there?
>>54053774
I installed the wrong package...
Now I'm sure to have the correct one installed, but I still can't find mplayer anywhere when looking through my files.
Anyone know what's up with this?
>>54054358
that's just wrong, that's the sort of shitty thinking that would force everyone even professionals to use gimp instead of photoshop, and for another thing, it would virtually overnight make commercial software and therefore the people who make a living developing it, obsolete. why do you hate the economy anon?
>>54054402
w3m
Which key do I need to press to make use of the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT option?
I have GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=3. I want GRUB's menu only to show up when I press a button. Which button is that?
>>54054402
give qupzilla a look see
What DE are you using right now?
I want to switch but the whole "16.04 in a week" thing is going to hold me back.
I was Unity wasn't objective shit, cause then I could use the most normie choice without having to think hard.
>>54054402
midori or epiphany are a bit lighter, there's also dwb or CLI browsers
>>54054454
>midori or epiphany are a bit lighter
[citation needed]
If you think his web browsing experience will be better with those browsers then you're a deluded person.
What's up with everyone asking that question lately and thinking it will matter when the websites they're browsing are the same on all of them?
>>54054009
Qemu
>>54054452
I think budgie is probably the most normie friendly de right now
>>54054506
I don't care about normie friendly. I want the DE of the future. Apparently KDE is suppose to be it, but it's another one of them 'lmao beta' things.
So after installing xubuntu and i3. How do I actually boot into the i3 desktop environment? It's not showing an option to change desktop environments at the login screen like standard ubuntu? Did I choose the wrong flavor?
>>54054478
Epiphany uses 18M + 70M for one tab (4chan/g) for me, while Chrome uses 145M + 10*(50M) (10 processes with 3 tabs open) + 125M (gpu-process). Idle cpu usage is less with Epiphany than with Chrome.
Is my browsing experience better with Epiphany? Unless I'm shitposting on 4chan, then no. Epiphany has higher cpu usage when opening tabs (which causes my fan to spin up and makes noise) and I can't use things like Google Docs with it, because it's not supported. But it is lighter, as far as I can tell.
>>54054454
>>54054478
Currently trying out Midori on Debian testing XFCE. Not hitting swap, so that's a massive improvement over firefox.
>>54054544
wms' and personal setups are the de of the future, or at least the future of anyone who becomes decent at using linux and develops a base of prefered applications
>Linux with GNU thread
>Nobody helps
T.
>>54053611
What launcher should I look at? I think I've used launchy in the past, but is there anything more ricer, that perhaps doesn't use google as a search engine?
>>54054752
I don't really understand what your issue is. Could you formulate a whole sentence? And please stop frogposting.
>>54054807
this
Why is rms such a bernout?
>>54054947
Why do poltards keep inviting politics to this bored
>>54055025
it's all they do
they're socially outcast irl so they come online and repeat their mistakes, hence why they stick to imageboards
>>54055025
Let me explain.
>>54054947 <- bait
>>54055025 <- fish
Welcome to 4chan.
>>54055025
because for many people, if you don't invite yourself you'll never go anywhere
>>54054947
>falling for fakes
Here is the original.
>>54055099
Looks legit.
>>54054807
>>54054928
If you don't understand the code, you can't help me.
>>54055273
anon you need to get better at asking questions
>hurr no u need to get better at understanding what I mean
fuck you then
>>54055387
So friendly. When I do some line like in my example when I have thousands of files, find writes randomly to stdout that it can't find some file
>>54055025
Nice red herring.
And thus /g/entlemen get distracted and never discuss Stallman's retardation.
>>54055528
>so friendly
hey you're the one who got snide with us. if you don't want attitude then don't give attitude
have you considered that the output isn't random and it really can't find the shit you're looking for?
So I fucked up some permissions on my external drive on my ubuntu server because rsync keeps giving permission denied errors.
Should the owner of my data be my user or root?
>>54055691
user
>>54055273
You can't just post code and expect people to understand what you want to know about it.
I didn't even bother reading it as you posted a frog and didn't ask a question at all.
>>54055580
If it can't find it, then how is it complaining about it? Stuff is only happening to files that were found in first place..
After installing Debian on my potato I'm having some issues.
I'm running in software rendering mode and I'd like to change that.
My video card is RV535 Radeon x1650 pro.
Any input is appreciated.
Remember that discussion about a good imageviewer that supports images, animated images, webms/gifvs, assignable shortcuts etc. and that one raging retard that got all up on my ass for having to use HoneyView for a nice experience?
Well, I'm making my own using Python 3 and PySide and the Phonon framework, and I will call it meh which sums up my opinion on feh. Fuck you
>>54056698
a)
https://github.com/jhawthorn/meh
b)
>a good imageviewer that supports images, animated images, webms/gifvs, assignable shortcuts etc.
mpv
>Puddletag claims an album I've loaded into it is 128kbps
>Deadbeef claims that same album is 127kbps
Which should I trust? I'm inclined to say Puddletag but I really don't know. Should I try a different program to get a definitely-correct answer?
(For the record - it isn't the 1kb difference here that concerns me, since nobody would be able to hear it. What concerns me is simply that they're giving different answers. I'd rather resolve this problem now rather than later, in case a future instance gives me a larger discrepancy and I'm not sure which number to go with.)
>>54056738
1) fuck.
2) mpv is a video player, not an image viewer man! Can it actually assign shortcuts to navigate one folder up/down, set an action on what to do after the end of the folder is reached (navigate to next sibling folder, loop) etc.?
>>54056760
> off-by-one errors
> :^)
>mpv is a video player, not an image viewer man!
who cares if it does the job perfectly? I even use it as music player.
>Can it actually assign shortcuts to navigate one folder up/down, set an action on what to do after the end of the folder is reached (navigate to next sibling folder, loop) etc.?
yes, there's lua
>>54056794
Are there any pre-made scripts or do I have to write the myself? "mpv image viewer linux" turns up nil.
As it stands I'm still kinda motivated to write kek (formerly meh), especially considering that I've done something similar before.
got a bit of an issue lads
So I've got 2 partitions currently, 1 that has KDE Neon installed (sda1), and another with RemixOS on it (sda3) on the same HDD.
Doing update-grub doesn't pick up RemixOS, even though the initrd.img file is in the root of that partition.
The "boot-repair" utility did fuck all.
Supergrubdisk2 can detect all the partitions, and boot to both KDE Neon and RemixOS.
What am I doing wrong?
Would it be worth just installing the RemixOS UEFI Grub and hope it finds the KDE Neon partition?
>>54056818
Just write it. Maybe it will be better than others, maybe I'll even use it, who knows.
>Are there any pre-made scripts or do I have to write the myself?
Basically you just need to extend your config for other media files like:[extension.jpg]
pause
[extension.png]
pause
[extension.gif]
loop-file="inf"
[extension.webm]
loop-file="inf"
[extension.flac]
display-tags=*
[extension.ogg]
display-tags=*
[extension.opus]
display-tags=*
[extension.mp3]
display-tags=*
For setting up hotkeys that do stuff: For simple things there is the key command "run", which runs shell commands and there's the lua api for more complex stuff.
Example:
>Automatically load playlist entries before and after the currently playing file, by scanning the directory.
>https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/TOOLS/lua/autoload.lua
More scripts:
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/User-Scripts
If you like hacking around, you can make mpv your all-in-one media player.
>>54056900
Thank you, and I might!
So I've installed Xubuntu and the xfce4 power manager plugin in the panel uses 420 megabytes of RAM.
Why? What the hell? What does a battery charge indicator use half a gig for?!
Hey /fglt/, I wanted a small and relatively minimalistic distro that I could boot off a USB flash drive. I tried Porteus and desu I really don't like it, booting into it takes forever and it's pretty slow when actually using it.
Am I doing something wrong? (using KDE desktop btw). Also, does anyone have any other recommendations for small distros?
