Previously on: >>54028039
Welcome to /fglt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
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2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
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http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
>>54038464
Can you explain me what this does?
Trying to learn.
I shall repeat the question posed as the other thread expired: anybody have any experience with Sabayon? Thoughts on it?
>>54038523
man find, dude.
-type f finds only files (not directories)
-exec excecutes a command for each file
{} is replaced by the found files' names
+ adds it all in one command I think. You might not want that, depending on your Python script.
>>54038557
It's package manager is based on portage, it's not exactly portage iirc. It has different commands, etc. If you really want something Gentoo-ish try Funtoo. Or even Scientific Linux which is supposed to work out of the box and comes with a GUI installer.
>>54038850
You can use their in-house package manager, which utilize Gentoo sources pre-compiled, or use portage itself -- but they recommend against using both.
>>54038850
>Or even Scientific Linux which is supposed to work out of the box and comes with a GUI installer.
Isn't that based on RHEL though? How is that related to Gentoo?
>>54038557
Don't bother. Just install Ubuntu.
>>54038481
I want to learn more about Windows in Virtual box
Does this take a lot of ram/computing power?
Can you download files in your virtual box instance and save them and they'll be there if you restart virtual box later?
Will vidya be slowed down, or run just as well as native Windows?
Made this up to derail >>54038083 's disinfographic. Whatcha think?
>>54038948
Your vidya will be significantly impacted negatively.
It takes as much RAM/CPU cycles as you allocate to the VM in the setup.
>Can you download files in your virtual box instance and save them and they'll be there if you restart virtual box later?
You allocate storage space as a virtual hard drive, which these files will reside on.
>>54038893
Shit, I meant Calculate Linux. My brain crosswired these two. Sorry for confusion
cua-mode
yay or nay?
Upcoming list on GNU/Linux software. Please be patient while I add a description and the rest of tools. This is in protest of systemd deprecating software, pulseaudio sabotaging Linux sound, and in support of GPL. This is not just because, over the years I've seen how systemd and pulseaudio broke things, personal experiences lead me to do this protest.
Coding
CLI Cheatsheet: fu, bro, howdoi, CLI Companion
IDE: Atom, NetBeans, Gambas, Qt Creator, Android Studio, xspim, Alex ;)
Git: tig
Mercurial: hgv
Documentation: Doxygen
Code Beautifier: UniversalIndentGUI
Source Code: cflow, Ctags, LXR: The Linux Cross Referencer
Kernel: Buildroot
Compiling Speeding Up: ccache, distcc
RegEx Builder: txt2regex, Visual REGEXP
Communication
API: Grive2, PRAW
Synchronization: Syncthing, Conduit
Search Engine CLI Scraper: Surfraw, Torrtux, Googler
Social Network Scraper: Social Scraper, Hacker Top, Cortex, Reddit Top, Reddit Comment Finder
Desktop Multi Client: Gwibber, Weboob
Pastebin Client: pastebinit
Twitter Client: turses, Hotot, bash twitter idiocy
Reddit: rtv, cReddit
Youtube: VLC, youtube-viewer, youtube-dl, mps-youtube
Facebook: fbcmd
Mega: megatools
Slack: ScudCloud
Telegram: Telegram-Purple, Telegram Desktop
Distributed Social Networks: MediaGoblin, GNU social, EPrints, Alexandria
Collaborative Editor: Gobby
Paint chat: Collab, Drawpile
Browsers: Hacked Links (ELinks + Links2), w3m, dwb, Icecat/Firefox, Chromium
CLI Talk: write, wall, talk (Ytalk, ntalk)
IRC: Irssi (+ Bitlbee), HexChat (+ Bitlbee), Eggdrop (IRC bot)
IRC gateway to IM chat networks: Bitlbee
Chat: Centerim, Finch, Pidgin
VoIP: Jitsi, Empathy, Mumble
Email: Alpine, Mutt, Icedove/Thunderbird (+ Enigmail)
Mail Archiver: Lurker
Feeds (RSS + Podcast): Newsbeuter (+ Podbeuter), Liferea
Newsreader: Raggle, Pan
Podcatcher: gPodder
MUD: TinTin, kbtin, KildClient
Darknet: i2p
Online Radio: Streamripper, Nuvola Player
Search Engine: YaCy
Web Accelerator: Squid
>>54039248
Desktop Environment
Boot Screen: Fbsplash, Plymouth
Display Manager: Qingy, SLiM
Shortcuts: Autokey, Xbindkeys
Macro Recorder: xdotool, Xnee
Application Launcher: slmenu, dmenu, ratmenu
Panel: Tint2, Global Menu, Avant Window Navigator
X Event Display: xev, xwininfo
Status Bar Client: Byobu, Dzen
Status Bar Server: i3status, monky
Notification Daemon: dunst
Notification Library: Libcanberra + Libnotify
Window Manager: Twin, TinyWM, dwm, Ratpoison, CTWM, i3, Common Desktop Environment, s3d
File Manager: Ytree, Ranger, rover, worker, Endeavour Mark II, PCManFM
Multiplexer: GNU Screen (Tmux lacks in comparison, features are limited and is reported buggy)
Terminal: UXTerm, Termite, rxvt-unicode (a.k.a. urxvt), Qodem, Terminology, Cool Retro Term
Worskpace Pager: Skippy-XD, 3D-Desktop
Window Resizing: wmctrl, QuickTile
Clipboard: xclip, XSel
Wallpaper Changer: hsetroot
Animated Wallpaper: Xplanet, xmountains, Xsnow, Xphoon
Video Wallpaper: VLC
Terminal As Wallpaper: xrootconsole
Cursor: GPM, xbanish
Terminal Widget: YeahConsole, tty-clock, CMatrix, termsaver, SL, bb, Nyancat
Screenshot Information: Linux_Logo, envee, screenFetch, alsi
Screensaver: XScreenSaver
Icons: Irix Icons, Classic95, Retrofukation, Paper Icons, Iris Icons
Fonts: Terminus, GNU Unifont, f500
Themes: Arc GTK, Macbuntu, Lubuntu XP, Win3x
Compositing Window Manager: Xcompmgr, Compiz (bloat)
Emulation
Game Consoles: RetroArch
OS X: Darling
Windows: Wine
DOS: DOSBox
Filesharing
Offline Reader: HTTrack, Darcy Ripper
Download Manager: Wget, cURL, Plowshare, JDownloader
Multi Protocol Download Manager: giFTcurs, giFT, aria2
Encrypted Filesharing: GnuNet, RetroShare
Distributed Filesharing: GitTorrent, Keyringer
Direct Connect: LinuxDC++
FTP: TFTP, sftp, FileZilla
LAN: Dukto, NitroShare
Soulseek: Nicotine Plus
Torrent: Transmission (transmission-daemon and transmission-cli or transmission-remote), RTorrent
Usenet: Sonarr, SABnzbd
>>54039270
Forensics
Data Recovery: TestDisk, ddrescue, PhotoRec, Metagoofil
Debugger: GDB, CGDB, DDD, VisualVM, scanmem & Gameconqueror
Hex Editors: objdump, dhex, HT Editor
Application Profiling: Valgrind
Network Profiling: iperf
System Profiling: perf, OProfile, ftrace (+ trace-cmd)
System Information: inxi
Software Information: uname, vrms, ldd, file
Hardware Information: dmesg, lspci, lshw
Steganalysis: Stegdetect, Virtual Steganographic Laboratory
Forensic Analysis Framework: Radare, DFF, The Sleuth Kit
Media
Text to ASCii: FIGlet
ASCii Animation: drawille, Durdraw
Video to ASCii: AAlib
ASCii Drawing: textdraw, JavE
ANSI Drawing: cadubi
ASCii Presentations: blessed-contrib, wopr
Image to ASCii: jp2a
2D Digital Animation: OpenToonz, Synfig
3D Digital Animation: Blender
Digital Audio Workstation: LMMS, Ardour, Rosegarden
Audio Editing: SoX, Audacity
Synthesizer: ZynAddSubFX, AlsaModularSynth
Software Sampler: Hydrogen, orDrumbox, LinuxSampler
DJing: Mixxx
Vector Graphics Drawing: Xfig, Inkscape
Bitmap Graphics Drawing: XPaint, MyPaint, Krita
Fonts Drawing: FontForge
Diagram Editor: TikZ, Graphviz, Dia, Pencil Project
Mind Mapping: FreeMind
Image Editing: ImageMagick, Gimp + G'MIC, RawTherapee
Image Viewer: fim, display (ImageMagick), sxiv, Feh
Music Visualization: cava, Le Biniou
Music Player: Moc (+ moc-ffmpeg-plugin), cmus, Clementine, Audacious (+ Winamp Classic skin)
Media Center: Kodi (formerly XBMC), Popcorn Time (inb4 MPAA shills "red pilling" everyone), Peerflix
Video Player: VLC (nvlc), Mpv
Video Editing: Cinelerra-cv, OpenShot, CinePaint
Screencasting: XVidCap, Open Broadcaster Studio (Open Broadcaster Softare), SimpleScreenRecorder
Screenshot: FBGrab, import (ImageMagick), Scrot, Shutter
Multimedia Transcoding: FFmpeg, HandBrake, WinFF
Audio Codecs: FLAC, LAME
Bitmaps to Vector Converter: Potrace, AutoTrace
Audio Ripping: cdparanoia, fre:ac, Sound Juicer
Video to gif: FFmpeg, QGifer, Video2Gif
Flash Player: Gnash, Lightspark
Opinions on Trisquel? FSF says it's good and I find it fairly comfortable.
>>54039284
Mobile
Distros: Replicant, CyanoenMod
Repository: F-Droid
Hacking: cSploit
Privacy: XPrivacy + Keepassdroid
Messaging: Tox (antox)
Monitoring
Disk Usage: Ncdu, dfc, Baobab, KDirStat
Performance Monitoring: procps (ps, free, vmstat, top, pmap, nice), Sysstat (sar, pidstat, iostat, sadf), nmon, dstat, atop, Conky
Process Monitoring: strace, Sysdig, lsof, htop, gnome-system-monitor
Network Monitoring: vnStat, iftop, IPTraf
Network Latency Monitoring: bmon, SmokePing
Port Monitoring: ttylog, slsnif
User Monitoring: Whowatch, wuzzah
Log Monitoring: multiTail, lnav
Web Log Analytics: W3Perl, AWStats
Web State Monitor: Sysmon, Nagios (+ NagVis)
Database Monitoring: Mytop
Office
Suites: LibreOffice, Siag Office
Text Editor: nano, vim, slap, Emacs
Outliner: hnb, gjots, Vault 3, TreeSheets
Word Processor: WordGrinder, AbiWord
Document Processor: GNU TeXmacs, LyX, Scribus
Spreadsheet: slsc, Sc, Gnumeric
Presentation: tpp (Text Presentation Program), Sozi, Beamer
Scorewriter: LilyPond, MuseScore
Ebook Viewer: less, fimgs, Zathura, Okular, Calibre
PDF Editing: Poppler, PDF SaM
MS Office Documents Viewer: catdoc (xls2csv, catppt, wordview)
CHM Viewer: xCHM
Repositories
GetDeb
PlayDeb
Katoolin (Kali)
>>54039009
cua-mode is for n00bs. :3
>>54039302
Pentesting
General Password Cracking: John the Ripper
Remote Cracking: THC Hydra
Windows Cracking: Ophcrack
BIOS Cracking: CmosPwd
WiFi Cracking: Aircrack-ng
Wordlist Generator: CUPP, crunch
General Network Tampering: Netsed, cryptcat (Netcat)
Traffic Generator: Mausezahn
Traffic Replay: Tcpreplay
Packet Crafting: hping, Ostinato
Man-in-the-middle Attack: Ettercap, sslstrip
Web Application Vulnerability Scanner: Nikto
Network Vulnerability Scanner: Yersinia, OpenVAS
Host Vulnerability Scanner: Lynis
Exploit Famework: w3af
Backdooring: Evilgrade, Backdoor Factory, Veil-Evasion, Cymothoa
Windows Registry Editor: Offline NT Password & Registry Editor
Social Engineering: Social Engineering Toolkit
SQL Injection: sqlmap
Cross-Site-Scripting: xsser
SSH Denial: screwSSH
Exploitable Distros: Damn Vulnerable Linux, Metasploitable, Kioptrix
Exploitable Web Apps: WebGoat, hackxor, Mutillidae
Network Link Scanner: Linklint (+ linklint2dot), LinkChecker
Packet Sniffer: Tshark (Wireshark TUI), tcpdump, tcpflow
Network Mapping: arping, Ping, MTR, tracepath, Paris Traceroute, Traceroute, Open Visual Traceroute, EtherApe
Traffic Flow Scanner: PRADS, tcptrack, nfdump, Xtract, weathermap4rrd, traceroute@home
WiFi Scanner: Kismet
Network Enumeration: WhatWeb, p0f, xprobe2, SSLScan
DNS Client: dig, host, whois, nslookup
Network File Retrieval: Driftnet, tcpxtract
OSINT: Netglub, Creepy
Reconnaissance Framework: ngrep, Nmap, DMitry, dsniff (urlsnarf, filesnarf, webspy, Tcpkill, macof, arpspoof), Recon-ng
Privacy
Data Erasure: Dban, shred, bleachbit_cli (BleachBit), MAT
File Encryption: ccrypt, GNU Privacy Guard, GNU Privacy Assistant
Disk Encryption: dm-crypt, StegFS
Key Server: SKS
Identity Generator: The Random Identity Generator
Music Metadata: Beets, Easytag
Image Metadata: ExifTool, Exiv2
Password Generator: apg, pwgen
Password Manager: kpcli, KeePassX
Password Sync: KeySync
Steganography: Steganoroute, SNOW, Steghide, StegoShare
Tunneling: ProxyChains, HTTP tunnel
>>54039316
Productivity
Background Sound: Ambient Noise, GNU GTick
Ear Training: GNU Solfege, LenMus
Batch Renamer: vidir, GPRename
General Cataloger: Data Crow
Movies: Griffith
Books: Alexandria
Volumes: Virtual Volumes View
Genealogy: Gramps
Eye Strain: sct, Redshift
Flashcards: Anki, awk flashcards
Gamification: HabitRPG
Personal Assistant: Mycroft, Orca, GnuTutor
Desktop Character: Kawari + Ninix-aya, Gnome KiSS, Oneko
Media Organizer: gThumb, digiKam
Personal Organizer: when, calcurse, Wyrd, Task Coach
Accounting: GNU Pem, GnuCash
Financial Markets Monitoring: QtTrader, Qtstalker
Financial Trading: JStock, FIX Agora
Bitcoin Wallet: Bitcoin Core, Armory
Bitcoin Trader: Qt Bitcoin Trader
Block Chain Browser: Abe
Repetitive Strain Injury: Workrave
Desktop Search: ANGRYsearch, Tracker, Beagle
Spell Check: GNU Aspell
Typing Training: GNU Typist, Klavaro
Text-To-Speech: eSpeak, eBook-speaker (+ pandoc), Gespeaker
Remote Administration
Diskless Booting: iPXE
PC-Mobile Connection: KDE Connect, BitPim, Wammu
Remote Desktop Client: Remmina, rdesktop
Remote Desktop Server: xrdp
RD Client/Server: X2Go
Remote X Apps: X11 forwarding, Xpra
Remote Login: OpenSSH, Mosh
Control Panel: Webmin, Vesta Control Panel, ZPanel
Configuration Management: cdist, CFEngine, LCFG, Puppet
Server Provisioning: FAI
Remote Execution: pconsole, PSSH
Science And Engineering
Astronomy: Celestia, Stellarium, SaVi satellite constellation visualizer, SkyCat
Bioinformatics: BioJava, Bioclipse
Geographic Information System: qGIS
Virtual Globe: Marble
Street Map: Osmosis, JOSM
Subway Map: qMetro
CAD: FreeCAD, cadtools for Blender, LibreCAD
Graphing Calculator: GraphMonkey, Lybniz, KAlgebra
Plotting: Picviz, PLplot, ygraph, Ngraph-gtk
Volunteer Computing: BOINC (+ boinctui)
Computer Algebra System: bc, Maxima, wxMaxima, SageMath
Statistical Package: PSPP, gretl
Data Mining: KNIME
Weather: Weather Util, wego, My Weather Indicator, AWeather, XTide
Data Visualization: Gephi, Tulip, Cytoscape, SocNetV
>>54039333
Security
Anti Virus: ClamAV, ClamTk
Automatic Hardening: Bastille
HID Framework: Tiger, OSSEC, Defensive Tools For The Blind
Rootkit Detection: Chkrootkit, rkhunter, Unhide
Integrity Check: Samhain, Tripwire, AIDE
System Logging: Syslog-ng
Extended File Attributes: inotify
Sandbox: chroot, LXC, Cuckoo Sandbox
Privilege Authorization: AppArmor, Linux Intrusion Detection System
User Permissions: passwd, umask, Sudo, ConsoleKit
Web Content Parental Control: DansGuardian
Web Content Filtering Proxy: Privoxy
Man-in-the-middle Defense: ArpON, arpwatch
Network Authentication: DNSCrypt, SSL
Network Intrusion Detection: Suricata: Snort, pytbull
Network Intrusion Prevention: Fail2ban
Firewall: Netfilter, iptables, Uncomplicated Firewall
Honeypot (Server): Nova, Honeyd, Kippo
Honeypot (Client): Capture-HPC, HoneyC
Honeypot Analysis: HFlow, HIHAT
Honeypot Distro Bundle: ADHD, HoneyDrive
Server
BBS Server: Mystic BBS, Synchronet, Citadel
Cloud Storage: ownCloud
IaaS: OpenStack
General CMS: Alfresco, GetSimple CMS
Publishing CMS: PadCMS
Project Management CMS: Citadel/UX, Collabtive
Document Management System CMS: LogicalDOC, OpenKM
Social Collaboration CMS: eXo Platform
Wiki: XWiki, DokuWiki, TWiki
Decision-Making CMS: Loomio
Chan: sshchan, l·a·i·n·c·h·a·n
Reddit: voat
Mail CMS: Kolab
XMPP Server: Tigase
Database Server: MariaDB, GNU Recutils, RRDtool
Distributed Networking: IPFS, LibreVPN, Tinc
Email Server: Postfix, Exim
IRC Server: InspIRCd, Charybdis, UnrealIRCd
VPN: OpenVPN, Libreswan, strongSwan
Web Server: darkhttpd, lighttpd, Apache, Nginx
MUD Server: PennMUSH
Proxy Server: Tinyproxy
>>54039302
>Text Editor: nano, vim, slap, Emacs
There no editor but Emacs, and GNU is his prophet.
>>54039343
System
Audio Utilities: alsa-utils (alsamixer, amixer, aplay, arecord), ALSA tools (alsa-tools, alsa-tools-gui), Qastools (qastools-common, qasconfig, qashctl, qasmixer)
Mixer: aumix, gnome-alsamixer
Equalizer: Alsaequal (libasound2-plugin-equal)
Audio Extensions: awesfx, ESound (esound-common), alsa-oss, oss-compat, apulse, aloop
Audio Plugins: DSSI (dssi-utils, dssi-vst), LADSPA (tap-plugins), LV2 (x42-plugins), zam-plugins (LADSPA/LV2/VST/JACK)
Audio Tray Icon: Volti, Volume Icon
BIOS: Libreboot, Coreboot, Das U-Boot
Boot Loaders: SYSLINUX, GRUB, LILO
Cache: bcache, dm-cache, EnhanceIO
Drive Copy: dc3dd, dcfldd, dd, K3b
Compression: Atool, tar, PeaZip, Xarchiver
Custom Install CD: Mklivecd, Ubuntu Customization Kit, Customizer, PinguyBuilder
Dotfiles (potential bloat, but better than oh-my-zsh): Solarized, Liquid Prompt, Bash-it, oh-my-git
File Synchronization: Rsync, Unison
Hibernation: TuxOnIce, uswsusp
Job Scheduler: Cron, Slurm
Keyboard Layout: xmodmap
Kernel Modules: modprobe
Live USB: MultiCD, UNetbootin
Serial Console: Picocom, Minicom, GNU Screen
Bandwidth Limiting: Wondershaper
Bandwidth Testing: speedtest-cli
DHCP Client: dhcpcd, dhclient
Network Manager; Connman, Wicd, NetworkManager
Network Configuration: iproute2, net-tools
Parallel Computing: GNU Parallel, Open MPI
Partitioning: sfdisk, fdisk, cfdisk, GNU Parted
System Customization: mkinitramfs, Genkernel, dracut, mkinitcpio
System Scripting: DBus, IPC
Device Management: evdev, udevil, Udisks, Autofs, mount, AcetoneISO
Package Management: Guix, CheckInstall
Arch Linux: Pacmatic, pacaur, yaourt
Debian: GDebi, debtree, GtkOrphan, Y PPA Manager
Gentoo: eix
Service Management: Upstart, Initng, OpenRC
Settings Manager: chkconfig, sysv-rc-conf, rcconf, bum
System Backup: Systemback, Snapper
Dummy Utils: Asmutils, BusyBox
Virtual Machine: KVM (+ VirtIO + VFIO), Xen, VirtualBox
Network Virtualization: GNS3, nsnam
Nested X Server: Xnest, Xephyr
Disk Quota: quota
Video Setup: xrandr
Kubuntu or Xubuntu? I heard Kubuntu is dead.
trying to get owncloud working with nginx
I'm using the config file provided in https://doc.owncloud.org/server/9.0/admin_manual/installation/nginx_configuration.html as/etc/nginx/sites-enabled/owncloud.conf
when I try to access cloud.example.com, the error log spits out:2016/04/14 16:16:56 [error] 4290#0: *2 "/var/www/owncloud/index.php/apps/files/index.php" is not found (20: Not a directory), client: 50.153.85.207, server: _, request: "GET /owncloud/index.php/apps/files/ HTTP/1.1", host: "example.com"
I'm assuming this is a error with nginx not loading php or something
is there something magic that I could put into nginx.conf?
Why did that guy post long lists of apps? Is not like my favorite thing to do at computer is reading lists of apps..
>>54039248
>>54039270
>>54039284
>>54039302
>>54039316
>>54039333
>>54039343
>>54039410
>not using pastebin
>shitting up the thread with these gigantic posts
Create a pastebin faggot.
>>54039443
Literally the first post says is a protest.
>>54039426
It seems to be wanting to go to a directory,but index.php is a file.Something is misconfigured.Check your dir paths
>>54039248
>>54039270
>>54039284
>>54039302
>>54039316
>>54039333
>>54039343
>>54039410
You should clean your list. Too much crap and botnet.
>>54039569
how do I do that?
I don't know anything about php
>>54039597
Check your configuration files,and check where it is being pointed to.
>>54039593
I know exactly what you mean, but if people wants to use the google drive api only a better education will save them.
if i have a hdd with a x64 arch install, and want to use it on a 32 bit laptop, do i have to reinstall everything?
>>54039248
>>54039270
>>54039284
>>54039302
>>54039316
>>54039333
>>54039343
>>54039410
consider killing yourself
>>54039614
yes
>>54039629
dang. thanks anon
>>54039622
We already saw your first post, quit complaining.
Nice protest, now what? Should we shutdown our systems because they use systemd?
>>54039679
>they use systemd
Not Gentoo, git gud.
>not using openrc
>>54039710
>spending 12 hours compiiling a 1mb program
>>54039248
>>54039270
>>54039284
>>54039302
>>54039316
>>54039333
>>54039343
That's a lot of shit m8. Would you consider making the list more sane and adding a merge request for fglt.nl?
>>54039772
Nice meme.
I actually like systemd. It did all the things that I needed it to do so far.
>>54039772
>memeing this much
>>54039607
what config files?
>>54039803
From your post,owncloud.conf
>>54039778
> the guy from a few threads ago actually delivered.
>>54038992
Thanks
>>54039847
It was up yesterday already, I got some nice feedback which I incorporated (like hosting the repo on Github as well so more people are able to contrib00t if they want). Now just trying to improve on it with more guides.
>>54039843
nginx -t checks the main config file, is there something similar that will check site configs?
>>54039778
>That's a lot of shit m8. Would you consider making the list more sane and adding a merge request for fglt.nl?
I will consider to, this is probably the last time I put the entire list in this thread, just wanted to state my protest.
About sanitizing the list, is complicated. I acknowledge some stuff might be controversial but it tried to be complete.
>>54039877service nginx reload
and see if it complains about errors.
>>54039869
thank you for the hard work anon
>>54039888
Nice trips. Also, not wrong to be complete. But it might help to organize it a bit better. Should be easily done if written in markdown and with an added TOC to it, for instance.
>>54039901
No problem. Now I can feel like I've done something positive for the GNU+Linux world :')
>>54039891
it doesn't say anything bad happened
is there a more verbose way of reloading it?# service --status-all
[ + ] amavis
[ - ] apache2
[ + ] bind9
[ + ] clamav-daemon
[ + ] clamav-freshclam
[ ? ] console-setup
[ + ] cron
[ + ] fail2ban
[ - ] fetchmail
[ + ] iptables
[ + ] iredapd
[ - ] keymap.sh
[ ? ] killprocs
[ ? ] kmod
[ ? ] modules_dep.sh
[ ? ] mysql
[ ? ] networking
[ + ] nginx
[ - ] nmbd
[ ? ] ondemand
[ - ] php5-fpm
[ + ] postfix
[ - ] procps
[ - ] quota
[ - ] quotarpc
[ ? ] rc.local
[ - ] rpcbind
[ - ] rsync
[ + ] rsyslog
[ - ] samba
[ - ] samba-ad-dc
[ + ] saslauthd
[ ? ] screen-cleanup
[ ? ] sendsigs
[ - ] smbd
[ - ] spamassassin
[ - ] ssh
[ - ] sudo
[ - ] udev
[ ? ] umountfs
[ ? ] umountnfs.sh
[ ? ] umountroot
[ - ] urandom
[ + ] uwsgi
[ ? ] vzreboot
[ - ] wide-dhcpv6-client
[ + ] xinetd
>>54039943
Might very well be a better way available, but I always just do the nginx reload thing and pray to Saint Ignucious to guide my configfiles to the right path.
>>54039917
What I can do is send you the bookmarks and the real structure it has (a tree structure). Will take me time thou.
>>540399432016/04/14 16:16:56 [error] 4290#0: *2 "/var/www/owncloud/index.php/apps/files/index.php" is not found (20: Not a directory),
This is your problem.Something is misconfigured
20:not a directory
You are telling it to use index.php as a folder,which cannot be true.You have it misconfigured somewhere,go back and check your configs,i dont use owncloud but your error is generic.We cant only handhold so much,we cant edit your configs for you
>>54039991
You can leave them in an issue on the repository. Preferably on the c.darenet.org version, but I am wouldn't mind if you'd rather use Github. I'll try to find time to organize it a little, or hope for another anon to help me out on this. If it's done in a seperate branch you/me/we can do it in several small steps instead of trying to do it all at once.
>>54039994
I know there's something wrong with the php rewrite thing, but it's not working
I'd be using apache (it just werks) but I would have to undo a few hours of work to do that
Is void linux a meme?
>>54040017
Ok, will do when I can.
Will this achieve the same thing as a secure erase?
I usually use hdparm for resetting SSD's, but I'm wondering if this has the same result.
I assume it just does this;dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
>>54040265
Actually no. I'm stupid. You don't know where dd will put the zeroes because of wear levelling. You would have to create a partition and fill the partition entirely with zeroes.
I think secure erase is better.
>>54040382
Not on an ssd you fucking retard
>>54040405
>wear leveling
>not on an ssd
Come back when you know what you're talking about
>>54039869
it's ugly anon.
you should consider http://evenbettermotherfucking.website/
I had a dual boot ubuntu/windows 10 setup on my old laptop. never had any issues until the computer would crash all the time and the sound stopped working a year and a half later. got a new laptop with win7, looking to dual boot with ubuntu again.
I didn't do that much research the first time around. everywhere I read says dual booting is not recommended. what's the risks? I have 90gb used up by windows so far and am looking to make a ~120gb slot for ubuntu out of a 450gb hdd.
>>54040467
I asked for theme suggestions in the irc channel. Besides, you're free to contribute a better theme if you have an improvement. The repo is up on two different websites.
>>54040443
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SSD_memory_cell_clearing
dumb fuck
>>54040540
This has literally nothing to do with dd.
>>54040537
dualbooting isn't risky. The worst thing that can happen (with Win7 anyways) is that it can override GRUB, but only if you install Windows after Linux.
Many people here suggest running Windows in a VM, to avoid constant rebooting and getting stuck on Windows out of habit
Is the IRC ever used?
>>54040591
considering there's daily activity, I'd say yes, it's used.
>>54040540
You're retarded
>>54040558
>>54040691
He's a stubborn archfag, what were you guys expecting? A reasonable reply that proves him right?
>>54040558
Why the fuck would you do that when you can just reset the fucker and go along your way.
zeroing out the entire fucking ssd is retarded in its minimal form
>archfag
I dont use arch,but their wiki is comprehensive and none other rivils it
Hey arch dorks, is higan emulator still broken on your distro?
>>54040539
What's the best way to submit suggestions for you ? github ? gitlab ? irc ? flt thead? email ?
>>54041075
Gitlab would be the best way, github a sloppy seconds option (I check this at least once a week as well, though).
>>54040800
>zeroing it out
That's exactly what secure erase does.
There's also no harm in writing zeros to the device as it's clearing the cells with 1's in them that causes wear.
What did they mean by this?
>>54041215
(sudo apt-get clean didn't work by the way)
>>54041215
Buy a bigger hard disk drive.
>>54041215
There's not enough free diskspace. You should free 52.1mb on /boot.
>>54041215
Pardon my lacking wit, but I believe it means you need a total of 112 M free space on /boot and that you need to free up an additional 52.1 M to reach it. It then gives suggestions for possible ways to achieve this, that are a bit odd in my mind as I can only see them helping if /boot isn't on its own partition, which otherwise is indicated to be the case.
You might find stuff for older kernels in there that you can remove. Just make sure you don't delete anything presently important.
>>54041215
Check your compression on your linux image
So tell me /fglt/, if so many people dislike systemd why don't they just make a new alternative to push forward?
Seems the only options are systemd, or old-and-busted.
Is anyone working on an alternative?
>>54041513
OpenRC and runit
hey y'all,
willing to help a COMPLETE noob out here real quick. first time user and visiter to the thread.
here it goes:
1. using wget right now to download file from url unto a server
2. read you can rest and resume with 'REST' and 'RANGE'
3. tried that during transfer. hit ^r, to start typing 'REST'. result? stopped the line and all stats froze, created a new one download continues below
4. ???
5. what did i just do? i hit ^r though not ^R. that important?
also, how DO i pause and resume a download from a url?
thanks
>>54041355
>>54041357
>>54041367
>>54041392
It's Xubuntu on a 128 GB SSD. >100 GB free space. Vanilla installation, I haven't tampered with anything.
How do I check the compression on my Linux image?
Also is this even supposed to happen? This is just a laptop where I put Linux for simplicity. Is it incapable of updating without me manually cleaning files away every now and then? I mean, shouldn't this kind of thing be automatic?
Do I just go into /boot/ and delete everything in it or what?
Thanks
>>54041215
Delete your old Linux images in boot.
You only need the latest one, and maybe a backup older one.
>>54041513
>alternative
Various ones exist.
>systemd hate
It started off as a good idea but it begain usupring every fucking part of the system,the first being udev. Proccess 1 dosent need to control the entire system and expose it.
>push foreward
Because devs and maintainers gave up because it was already encroching their system,and making too many things that cant be replaced.
Using the alternatives isnt supported,and its too much work for a team of 1 guy managing the alternative
Systemd is going to become an OS
>>54041587
>100 GB free space
Not on /boot.
>Also is this even supposed to happen?
Yes.
>Do I just go into /boot/ and delete everything in it or what?
No.
Delete old kernels, or make /boot bigger.
>>54041634
>>54041604
Alrighty. Which files are the interesting ones here? Also how do I make /boot/ bigger so it doesn't happen so often?
Thanks a bunch
>>54041661
All of the ones ending in 19.
Then run update-grub.
Could you also post the output of du -h?
>>54041661
You have multiple versions kernels
You dont need anything that dosent have .30 in it for the following
abi
config
initrd
system.map
vmzlinuz
>>54041632
Yeah that's why I don't want to use it. So the whole Linux community is really just going to sit there and let these developers take over out of laziness?
I knew as Linux got more popular we'd have to put up with things like this on our systems that we don't necessarily agree with, but I didn't think it would happen with such a basic component of the whole operating system.
I guess I'll just stick with Gentoo for now then.
>>54041728
Its not really laziness.Systemd has usurped so many core processes that is hard to NOT use systemd if its avalible for your distro.
>These developers
Its good ole Pottering(made pulseaudio,you see how that turned out) thats behind it,and thinks su is no longer needed and systemd-su exists.
>>54041679
>>54041694
Alright. It's just that I can't delete them. Delete button doesn't work and context menu Delete option is greyed out. It gives no explanation. Do I use the terminal?
>>54041775
You need to have elevated rights.
Use ther command line or use gksu(gnome) or kdesu(kde) to gain an elevated file manager
>>54041775
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels#Safely_removing_old_kernels
>>54041694
I guess this is a very cluttered /boot then...
http://pastebin.com/raw/PSd7HYhq
>>54041775
Use terminal.sudo rm /boot/*4.20-19*
>>54041761
>systemd-su exists
I don't even know what that is but it might give me nightmares.
>>54041799
.19 is old... .30 is updated on his system
>>54041761
What the fuck. This mad man needs to be stopped.
>>54041798
Thats retarded lol
>>54041818
...yes, so remove the 19 version.
sorry that should besudo rm /boot/*4.2.0-19*
i forgot a dot
>>54041842
4.2.0-19
4.2.0-22
4.2.0-30
Are you this retarded?
>>54041775
Run this.sudo dpkg --purge linux-image-4.2.0-19-generic
>>54041877
I would leave 2 kernel images on the system in case one gets corrupted, or has driver issues.
>>54041917
That is what the fallback image is for
>>54041932
the fallback image is 22
>>54041842
>>54041893
>>54041917
Thanks errybody. I modified it and deleted everything under 30 (not gonna blame you guys if I fucked it up). Now it updates fine at least.
>>54041761
>(made pulseaudio,you see how that turned out)
Probably the silliest argument people pull out against systemd. Pulse had huge issues early on but in the end it's one of the best things to happen to the Linux desktop. Most issues people have with it stem from trying to do things like it was still the last decade.
This post is not expressing any favour towards systemd. Please take note of that, whoever responds, before you jump my throat.
>>54041959
No.You use a fallback image of your current kernel version that has full support.
If your os cannot do that,thats not my issue.
>>54041972
Alsa+Jack is such a better combo then pulse.
>>54041972
>Pulse had huge issues early on but in the end it's one of the best things to happen to the Linux desktop
By the amount of software it shits on I have to disagree with you. A simple application like eBook-speaker goes dead because of pulseaudio.
So no, is far from being "one of the best things to happen to the Linux desktop".
>>54042017
This.
>>54041972
>>54042205
Show me the classic "how do i record what i hear" with pulse
>>54038578
A GUI would be more straightforward, as uses would have everything that they need at any point in time laid out in front of them without having to sift through what is and is not relevant to the task at hand.
>>54042205
>By the amount of software it shits on
Very little. I never hear people complaining about audio not working any more. Setting stream-specific levels is a breeze compared to before and it's just a lot more pleasant experience overall, as in the user barely having to touch it. Your own provided example seems to be a perfect case of doing things like it was still last decade, from what I can find on it.
I feel I'm not expressing myself very well, as expected with sleep meds kicking in. My apologies, but I doubt I will be around to continue a conversation. Just try to reconsider how things are today, and I'll try to keep an open mind as well.
>>54042604
Read:
>>54042223
>>54042604
Are you the same who said pulsaudio is "one of the best things to happen to the Linux desktop"? First, even when is "very little" that is already bad.
But not just that, the configuration nightmare that beginner face only with the browser is discouraging. We can only guess how many people stayed with windows just for that.
But go to sleep anon, is just my opinion. Maybe my words are not for you but for people just starting, who could use purging pulse to solve some issues.
>>54042734
Not to mention the config i spent days on tweaking to get optimal performance/sound,being broke after the next update.Flat out broken peice of shit,having to just discard it in favor of, you know, wanting to listen to music, voip'ing, watching media on the internet
>>54042760
Imagine updating pulseaudio one day, then try to turn on your favorite music player which you had tweaked the theme, had your favorite playlist, but none of that works, just because.
I know how you feel.
>>54041893
But since he is in a Ubuntu based distro I suggestsudo apt-get purge linux-image-
which is more clear for beginners to purge everything and free up more space.
Of course it should keep the last kernel thou.
How do I install drivers for an R9 380 in Linux?
I want to use fglrx.
What's the best BSD-like distro?
this is happening with every repository I have except for the adobe flash plugin repo.
does anybody had any idea why?zypper ref -f
Forcing raw metadata refresh
Retrieving repository 'Main Update Repository' metadata .......................................................[error]
Repository 'Main Update Repository' is invalid.
[download.opensuse.org-oss|http://download.opensuse.org/update/leap/42.1/oss] Valid metadata not found at specified URL
Running Firefox 45 on gentoo, downloaded the compiled version off Mozilla archives and copied it to /opt/ because the gentoo repos have shitty dependency hells. How should I install adobe flash? Emerging it doesn't work obviously, but I've tried copying the libflashplayer file to a dozen different directories that have been suggested on forums and nadda
>>54043351
Just play videos in mpv :^)
>>54043389
;____;
>>54043351
What do you need flash for?
Your china flash games?
Almost everything is html5 now
>>54043453
i wish that were true
some courses I'm taking have online material that require flash, and there are some streaming sites I use that require flash
>>54043480
Download the sfw and play it in mpv
Find better streaming sites,or download it
There is literally no reason to use flash anymore.
Not to mention the exploits that recently came up and were pushed to fix 2017
Has anyone ever figured out what causes laptop fans to not start in Linux computers? In this case it's an old Thinkpad running Fedora with kernel 4.4.6 but this has happened with every laptop I've had running multiple distros.
>>54043508
Do you have throttling on and your laptop hasnt reached the threshold to turn on?
>>54043519
I wouldn't know how to tell if I did. I don't normally do anything to my computer other than let my package manager install new things.
>>54043503
Downloading it is such a pain though, too many extra steps
flash is still used on news sites, media, dumb games, porn etc, it's everywhere.
>>54043118
>default repos are broken
opensuse, everybody.
So even after removing and reinstalling the program, and just apt-get updating everything, Audacity likes to crash when I open an mp3 file in it and try to play it. It also appears to play complete static for the moment that it actually does work.
No idea what this is but, shot in the dark - sound driver problem? Sound seems to be iffy in general with Linux.
>>54044133
open in console and check
So I'm getting really bad screen tearing when watching videos or scrolling quickly in Linux Mint 17.3 using xfce (xfwm4 with Compton) with a GTX 970. I made sure vsync was on for nvidia drivers (I'm using the official drivers) and added a line for Option "metamodes" "nvidia-auto-select +0+ { ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On }" to my xorg.conf under monitor. I'm kind of hitting a roadblock here, any suggestions on what to try next?
>>54044247
compton --backend glx
>>54044247
>xfwm4 with Compton
Double check your compton settings and make sure vysnc isn't enabled in either the config or the actual call, if not you could try disabling nvidia's vsync and enabling compton's vsync with OpenGL.
>>54038973
I kind of feel like GNU just swallows up as many non-directly-related projects as it can to make itself seem more important... like, GNOME is technically a GNU project, as is GTK, and GIMP, and GNU Emacs, and GNU nano, and GNU GRUB and GNU Bash. I always thought it was more "honest" to restrict the term "GNU operating system" to refer only to the GNU coreutils, because everything else is entirely optional and not related to the operating system at all.
I probalby wouldn't go so far as to claim that "OS" only refers to kernel space and userland software is secondary to the kernel, but GRUB and Emacs and even bash are all easily replaceable and many people don't use them on their Linux system.
An interesting question is what is the most non-GNU Linux system you can have? You can use Zsh, LILO, anything that isn't GNOME for the WM/DE, don't install emacs or nano or gimp, etc. I think you are left with just the GNU coreutils and even for that you can use alternatives like toybox or maybe even port them from BSD or plan9? There would be absolutely no reason at that point to call it a GNU/Linux system.
>>54044265
That gets rid of the tearing horizontally but it's not smooth in the slightest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuXsupMuik4 Using that test I can barely tell there are two separate lines when it's running.
>>54044285
When vsync is on or off with compton I still get tearing.
>>54044152
I really don't know how it hadn't occurred to me to try that.
And I'll be damned. It was an ALSA problem. The error it's giving me means fuckall at the moment, but at least I have a proper starting point. Thanks for the suggestion.
>>54043630
Arch user here, and top fucking kek. This is now my wallpaper. See, some of us aren't humorless autists. :^)
Where can I download Safari for Debian?
>>54045136
...
what?
>>54045159
S-sorry! I'll install PlayOnLinux. Thanks!
>>54041567
I don't see that method of controlling wget in the man page ...
I think you are looking for the -c or --continue arg te continue getting a partially downloaded file. The server has to support the range header though.
>>54042254
No it's not. This find command is as straight forward as it gets. You can have someone write a gooee for you so it's easy to execute, and that's not even as straight forward as just jotting the command down in a script.
I have a couple of computers set up basically joined at the hip, my main windows computer that I use for gaming and shit, and a fileserver running arch.
The arch machines seems to reset network connections every night around midnight, this is not something I have told it to do and I would like it to stop. Where should I start looking?
>be Linux new fag
>try out Ubuntu
>starting to like it
>time to dl Nvidia drivers
>download file
>double click file
>some text document pops up and loads something, takes pretty long time for Nvidia driver install
>"ERROR, YOU DID IT WRONG ANON READ README FILE"
>can't find Readme file didn't come with dl
>Google how to install drivers
>get a huge text doc in the first Google search
>finally found the instructions
>open terminal put in these commands bla bla
>do as the instructions say
>YOU DON'T HAVE PERMISSION TO EXECUTE
>Google how to get permission to execute
>done after 10 min
>try again
>YOU DON'T HAVE ROOT PERMISSION
>uninstall
HOW FUCKING HARD DOES IT HAVE TO BE TO INSTALL SOME FUCKING DRIVERS IN THIS SHITTY OS?
No wonder Linux doesn't break trough, the OS is only usable for people who have studied it and read every book from the Linux neckbeard. How fucking hard is it to make a user friendly distro?
Inb4 people call me a "noob" and lincucks doesn't realize that shit like this still gonna make their favorite OS irrelevant for many years to come.
>>54038481
Guy on the right looks like a fat, white version of Cornell West. Guy on left looks genuinely worried about being so close to Stallman.
>>54045798
>Ubuntu
There's your problem.
>>54045798
It sounds like you installed without reading any documentation or guidance in any way.
The best way to install nVidia drivers on Ubuntu is to use the Restricted Drivers tool.
>>54045760
In the syslog, or journal or whatever. It should be timestamped.
>>54045798
but just imagine how knowledgeable you'll be after a year or two of using an operating system where you encounter several large errors that require extensive research to solve every day
Am I a pussy for using openSUSE
>>54045798
Install them from the software center not some fucking website shithead.
>>54045840
There's a note of it, it seems to be the DHCP lease running out (or some other reason to seek out a new one), but this has never been an issue on other configurations.
>>54045822
Heard it was "the most user friendly distro" guess all the other ones are 745908x more retarded.
>>54045832
OH GREAT GOTTA GOOGLE WHAT RESTRICTED DRIVER TOOL IS, Hope I don't have to install it by typing 50 commands in the terminal.
>>54045846
Yeah on that time I probably would rather waste time on getting laid than fucking studying a major to learn how to use Linux.
>>54045852
So what if I wanna install program that is not in the software center? Am I doomed if I just wanna simply double click it to install and not having to enter a dozen commands?
>>54045901
If you don't wanna use linux, don't use linux senpai. How can it be easier than that?
>>54045901
>Heard it was "the most user friendly distro" guess all the other ones are 745908x more retarded.
100% Correct. The exact number and all.
>>54045911
It just amazes me that this OS has been like this for years and never gotten any improvements. Only because it's elitist user base and devs are a bunch of overweight code monkey neckbeards who can't think critically and how to reach out more users.
>>54045951
>elitist user base and devs are a bunch of overweight code monkey neckbeards who can't think critically and how to reach out more users.
Bullseye, yet again, anon. You're killing it today/tonight
>>54038481
Dude on the far right looks like a white Reggie watts.
>>54045970
Is obviously Santa, you git
>>54045847
no. you're some weird german faggot
>>54046001
>German faggot
We have a word for that you know
>>54045798
if you didn't know anything about cooking, and you decided to bake a cake because how hard can be if all these people are making them and you bought the first mix you saw at the store without reading the directions or a cookbook or looking up a recipe online and you mixed it with diet coke instead of water because you love diet coke and you drink it all the time and you added brown sugar instead of regular sugar because everyone says brown sugar is better and you baked it in a toaster oven instead of a regular oven because it's an oven, right? what's the difference? would you be correct in blaming cakes for being too complicated to make? or would you just be a humongous faggot?
>>54046095
>toaster oven
They exists?
>>54046107
oh they are the shit
>>54046138
Just looked that shit up. It's just a miniaturized oven. Kinda disappointed. I kinda assumed it was an oven...where you make toast...
>>54045847
literally nothing wrong with openSUSE
using tumbleweed? that was pretty sweet 2bh
>>54046246
you can make toast in them. that's their primary function. just instead of a toaster with slots for bread they have a whole compartment with a rack so in addition to bread you can warm/toast other things that wouldn't fit into vertical slits. like sammiches.
I'm doing some ricing for the first time and am wanting to remove the header from my windows.
In the example photo, i'd like to remove the portion of the window that says "/g/-/fglt/-Friendly..." etc
I've looked around in the cinnamon.css file to see if they had a "window-header" I could just set the height to zero, but found no such thing.
>>54043063
Slackware or Void
Can anyone tell me a better way to forcefully blacklist a driver without having to recompile the kernel? I had to do something a bit hacky (and before that, something REALLY hacky) to get xSwipe working, and I really would like to know how to make sure a module would not be loaded.
>>54046413
Addblacklist <drivername>to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
>>54046345
Press that little x button next to it
>>54046597
HA. HAHHA. OH GOD FUCKING HA,. MEMES
>>54046594
Doesn't work
lsmod would still show it running
>>54046608
Okay...
Install Plasma
Right click
Remove border
>>54046643
Alternatively look into the settings of Firefox and see if you can find the option to use/not use system buttons/borders. They have that in Chrome
>>54046610
If you can find the module in /lib/modules/<kernel-version>/ you can delete/move it and run depmod to regenerate the symbol maps. If you can't find it there then it is probably built in and you have to recompile the kernel.
>>54046345
it's called a window decoration, and it's handled by your WM
>>54046749
It's built-in... Well shit. I guess my way would be the only way to do it without recompiling the kernel.
>>54041632
>Proccess 1 dosent need to control the entire system and expose it.
It doesn't. You are sooooo stupid.
>>54038481
who are all those people with richie?
>>54046381
Slackware is the best anything distro period
>>54047500
Nice meme. TempleOS vs Slugwar who wins?
>>54047164
You are right man I just realized you won this argument and I am a huge moron please shit on my chest and let me wear diapers for you xd
>>54044329
>There would be absolutely no reason at that point to call it a GNU/Linux system.
You're right, but nobody was ever asking for to call such combinations GNU/Linux.
Furthermore, I think it's wrong to measure what an OS is by percent of megabytes at all. The tragedy is like this:
- 80s: RMS want's a free as in freedom OS, starts GNU
- 90s: Linus changes his kernel license to a free one, GNU starts to use Linux, so people didn't have to wait for Hurd
- Distributions show up
- people start calling the core OS "Linux" out of
convenience
- other people think it's the correct description, ask who made "Linux"?, get answered "Linux Torvalds" - ok
- with forgetting GNU, people forget the point of the whole thing: freedom, not hobbyismn
- Distros start adding non-free software and firmware to make their product comfortable for people who don't care about freedom anyway
- people start caring about market share, wait for the year of the "Linux desktop"
- other people think "Linux" is just some autistic open source failure by Linus Torvalds, since photoshop is better than GIMP and "Linux" doesn't even have thumbnail preview
- people realize that Windows is just better than the "Linux alternatives" and Linus Torvalds who created Linux, GIMP, GTK, BASH and later Ubuntu and Arch Linux, is a autisic NEET faggot and so his following community
- Windows implements the "Linux command line", people realize that there's no reason left for "Linux" to exist
- rms cries a little, asks people to call the GNU variant with Linux added "GNU/Linux", travels through the world, teaching people freedom
- get's called out for beeing a greedy jew who want's credit for the "succsess" of Linux
- it starts raining ...
>>54047566
Systemd's init part is separated from all the other components.
Does anyone here use Alpine as their desktop distro? Any tips for someone who want to switch?
If not, any musl users? Is it in any way possible to get the proprietary nvidia driver somehow working with it?
>>54046345
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/No-Title?content=93438
>>54044380
compton --config /dev/null --backend glx --vsync opengl-swc --paint-on-overlay
>>54047889
Stop trolling.
How do I navigate one line down/up on Vim?
>>54038481
why the fuck is stallman making that face
>>54047953
$ vimtutor
>>54047809
>GNU starts to use Linux
was it like this or did people who were interested in using Linux start to use the existing GNU tools?
I wasn't there, and RMS, lovable as his impossibly bloated gut may be, is not exactly the most impartial source.
In Revolution OS, Larry Augustin relates how he would download GNU software to his Sun machine, build it, and install GNU alternatives (over or alongside) the proprietary Sun programs.
He was not installing the GNU operating system. He was installing GNU software on the existing Sun operating system. That did not make the system GNU/SunOS or SunOS/GNU. To suggest that a Sun Unix system with a few programs replaced by GNU programs has to be called GNU/SunOS is ridiculous. Likewise, Linus did not make Linux specifically to be part of some kind of mythical GNU operating system (you have to admit that the "GNU operating system" has been vaporware for decades), but as a standalone OS that happened to use GNU coreutils and GCC because they were there and they were under a free license. His position as stated in that documentary is, if the GNU project wants to put out their own official version of Linux, they can call it GNU/Linux, just like Red Hat and SUSE and Slackware have their own official versions of Linux.
tbqh I just like watching RMS go into autistic sperg-rage and vocal tics every time he has to admit that he couldn't write a kernel in 10 years with a whole team while Linus managed to do it in a year by himself
>>54047966
>Linus managed to do it in a year by himself
>Monolithic kernel
>>54047998
worse is better
>>54047965
Thanks, didn't know about that one.
What I'm looking for isn't there though. What I want is a shortcut to navigate one line down in the whole document (shifting the whole document one line up, I suppose).
>>54047966
>I want is a shortcut to navigate one line dow
Doesn't "j" do this job?
>>54048037
meant this fag: >>54048024
>>54047998
And we all hate him for it, for bringing in yet another disease kernel
>>54048066
>>54047998
I just googled monolitic kernel, found that there's mirco and monolitic kernels, but what is the difference?
>>54048084
One is a disease the other is a holy cure.
>>54047873
Isn't there still issues with the fact that things are going to start depending on systemd that really have no need to. They're saying even udev will have systemd as a dependency eventually.
Then there's the fact that even if systemd is split up into different components it's still done in such a way that those components can't be replaced by anything else. It's still gotta be systemd, like all or nothing.
and from what I hear they aren't the best at handling bug reports that are submitted either.
I think those are the main issues, together with some additional things systemd is trying to force onto everyone like binary log files.
>>54047966
>When I ask people to call the system GNU/Linux, some of them respond with silly excuses and straw men (https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html). But we probably haven't lost anything, because they were probably unfriendly to begin with. Meanwhile, other people recognize the reasons I give, and use that name. By doing so, they help make other people aware of why the GNU/Linux system really exists, and that increases our ability to spread the idea that freedom is an important value.
>>54048099
>force onto everyone
Nobody is forcing you to do anything. Did the devs of all those distros get paid to implement systemd?
>>54048110
Something smells fishy to me.
>>54047966
>just like Red Hat and SUSE and Slackware have their own official versions of Linux.
a) are you referring to the kernel or the operating system? :^)
b) https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#companies
>>54048130
U're anushole
>>54048086
Nice meme. Anyone with an actual answer?
>>54048130
>>54048140
get a room u 2
>>54048141
>MINIX 3 is a free, open-source, operating system designed to be highly reliable, flexible, and secure. It is based on a tiny microkernel running in kernel mode with the rest of the operating system running as a number of isolated, protected, processes in user mode
>One consequence of this design is that failures of the system due to bugs or attacks are isolated. For example, a failure or takeover of the audio driver due to a bug or exploit can lead to strange sounds but cannot lead to a full takeover of the operating system. Similarly, crashes of a system component can in many cases be automatically and transparently recovered without human intervention. Few, if any, other operating systems are as self-healing as MINIX 3.
Thise are the supposed advantages. Check the work of these guys if you're interested in more.
>>54048099
>Isn't there still issues with the fact that things are going to start depending on systemd that really have no need to. They're saying even udev will have systemd as a dependency eventually.
Then fork udev yourself and maintain a systemd free version.
>Then there's the fact that even if systemd is split up into different components it's still done in such a way that those components can't be replaced by anything else. It's still gotta be systemd, like all or nothing.
No one is forcing you to use the utilities systemd provides. Use NetworkManager instead of systemd-networkd. Use ntpd instead of systemd-timesyncd, use cron instead of systemd-timers.
>and from what I hear they aren't the best at handling bug reports that are submitted either.
I don't know because I have never submitted a bug report there (I am not a poweruser who would even notice systemd bugs). Have you? If not, then stop bringing up unverified anecdotal evidence as an argument.
>force onto everyone like binary log files.
Stopped reading right there.
>>54048142
Sure. I have just one question, though. Am I the top or the bottom, or shall we switch?
>>54048157
Thank you.
>>54048110
>paid to implement systemd
Lennart did. Or at least he developed it in his capacity as a full time employee of RH
>>54048158
>Stopped reading right there.
Because it was at the very end of the post?
>>54048286
Nah that can't be it. You're just being silly.
>>54048037
>>54048049
I don't just want the cursor to move to the next line. I want the whole page to shift one line up, to read the next line.
>>54048276
Lennart Potter isn't a distribution maintainer.
Can someone explain me why everyone is shilling Arch/gentoo?
Why can't someone just use ubuntu with a different DE and de-bloat it?
Why would you bother using arch if it seems so unstable/tedious to configure?
Never used arch or gentoo. Just trying to understand if it's some kind of maymay or it has his own porpouse.
>>54048746
Arch is similar to other distros, but Gentoo is in a whole another league. Portage is godly. Using flags to compile programs with only the shit that you need, etc.
>install nvidia-prime in Ubuntu
>massive screentearing if picked performance mode
Jesus fucking Christ Nvidia, fix your shit!
>>54044329
There is alpine and android. But I'd rather replace the kernel than GNU. Even completely unrelated OS use GNU packages because of convenience and practicality. See minix3 or even windows 10 (kek).
Only because it is optional doesn't mean it is not part of the OS, even a Webbrowser or image manipulation program can be part of your OS if your distro ships with it ootb.
Also you can't use any DE with gtk.
>>54043508
Try to configure fancontrol
>>54043480
Youtube-dl and mpv
Install gnash
Use "open with" as a plugin for ff.
>>54043118
Can you ping their repo? Did you paste this error into a search engine yet?
>>54043052
>r9 380
>want fglrx
Are you sure about that? Which version of Linux do you use? If it's above 4.3 the difference of using nonfree drivers is not really worth it.
>>54043063
Debian kfreebsd is a thing if you mean something like that. Otherwise probably funtoo.
>>54038948
Vidya will be slowed down but if you have 2 gpus (intel igpu is enough) you could attempt to pass through one of them to your windows vm.
>>54039287
If it runs on your machine it's great, if it doesn't, use something else.
linux retard here. can someone explain why desktop environments look so different between different distros? for example, linux mint mate and ubuntu mate?
>>54049430
Well, what do you think?
>>54049477
i really don't know, which is why im asking. graphically they are pretty different. if they're the same desktop environment wouldn't they look identical?
>>54049430
Different distros use different default settings, ship different versions of DEs and sometimes replace logos, icons and colorschemes
Everytime I play a video or go to a tab that's playing a video/webm I get a black screen for a sec. This is not visible when I record my screen. Does anyone know how I can fix this? I've googled the problem but nothing has come out of it.
>>54049577
compton --config /dev/null --backend glx --vsync opengl-swc --paint-on-overlay
>>54049577
Sounds like some kind of gpu driver issue, what do you use on which gpu?
I made the mistake of installing infinality and now japanese fonts are really squished up and hard to read unless they are huge. What settings fix this? Hinting?
Is there a way to add more locales to Gentoo. Currently it's set to EN-US, which is a bit weird for my britbong head.
>>54049625
Purge infinality and make use a custom fontconfig with lcd filter. This way you will actually know how to fix it and it will look just as good if not better.
>>54038481
>There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
>0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
>1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
>2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
>3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
and none of them offer me productivity that i dont get from windows.
Problem with linux is it sucks for anyone thats not in the programming field
What virtual machine software should a retard use for trying out retarded things on Debian?
>>54049666
https://www.peacefulpillhandbook.com/
