What exactly is going to happen to me since I use all proprietary software on all my devices? The only GPL things I use are my Linux VM's and MinGW, and Cygwin.
Desktop - Windows 10 Pro
Laptop - Windows 10 Pro
Phone - Windows Phone 8.1
Well freetards? What negative consequences await me?
One day, you will want a feature, or want something other than what the maker of the software wants (possibly support for your OS, possibly nothing at all), and you won't get shit
A freetard would get a shitty hobbyist attempt at the least.
However, if a freetard is willing to pay (LOL!), they can get professional programming done.
>>54030227
You just described why the Linux desktop, the freest platform on Earth, sucks, so your argument makes no sense at all.
They're the ones with missing software. Also, anyone can get anything made for enough money, so I don't see your point.
>>54030298
Right there mate.
If we are all millionaires with disposable income then we all get our own proprietary shit dont ee?
>>54029598
You will never really know what's running on your machine.
You will be used as a marketing tool.
You will be spied on.
You will be put on a watch list if you attempt to block any of the tracking features (although this probably happens to us GNU/Linux users anyway :^)
You will never be able to remix the software that you use.
You will never be able to share the software you use with your friends legally.
>>54029598
You'll regret this when the robot uprising happens
Your own phone and laptop will take your life or enslave you
[spoiler]wake up sheeple[/spoiler]
>>54029598
Everything you do/say all day is tracked, recorded, analysed and processed accordingly.
>>54030367
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>54030367
I don't care about any of those. Software worth sharing is software worth buying.
>>54030371
There's no proof of this, and even if it was happening why would I care?
>>54030394
>why should I care for my own privacy?
Just open your house door then and let people come in and use your shit without your permission then because you don't care anyway
>>54030394
>There is no proof of this
>>54030394
There is abundant proof of microsoft and google at the very least collecting all of your information and making a profile on all of their users.
Right now it's not really a big deal, they're predominantly using this for marketing but we do have shitty overlords in the government who could possibly use this information to determine whether we are 'a threat'. The whole reason people are against this kind of spying is that one day they might start censoring the internet and even inprisoning those who dissent against the government, as has been seen frequently around the globe. The internet is the last bastion of free speech, and we don't want to see that being infringed upon and people being jailed for 'wrong speech'. It's a slippery slope, it's been done before in various media outlets and information sharing outlets before. If we don't fight for our rights then who will?
>>54030367
>You will never be able to share the software you use with your friends legally.
You guys are for piracy then ?
>>54030502
>If we don't fight for our rights then who will?
>>54030522
No, attacking ships on the high seas is very bad.
>Refuses to get Windows 10 due to privacy paranoia
>Still uses a smartphone
>>54030502
>The internet is the last bastion of free speech
It's just the latest implementation and it sure as hell won't be the last.
>>54030547
>muh Loonix based smartphone
>>54030522
Piracy is just a buzzword meant to demonize people who share media. Sharing new ideas that may further mankind is a fundamental part of humanity. I personally would hate for us to be held back because we just don't have the money to progess as a species. This is way different than trading goods and services in the traditional sense, and we need to start sharing new techniques for solving problems as a whole. Some things are more important than money.
>>54030554
Would you argue that at in this point in time that there are other means of free expression? You're right in the sense that we may find another means to share ideas in a global scale, but right now we don't. Being as this is the only means we have, it is worth it in my opinion to keep it that way.
>>54030574
Yes, I get your point, but do you know how hard it is to make a quality game. If I was dev, I'd sure expect monies.
But if it was free, and I had like a donate button, guess how many of you would actually donate.
I said games specifically because games aren't made by billionares.
>>54030589
>Would you argue that at in this point in time that there are other means of free expression?
Tor has certainly been successful in bringing free speach to countries in need. There are also alternatives such as Freenet and I2P. Mesh networks- basically privste internet between shared devices - could also be used
>>54030595
>sharing is evil because I want profit
>>54030227
>just make it yourself
Kek
>>54029598
so that are like 300 bucks in licences?.
Not counting all the software you use.
So you are paying lot of money for leting others use your hardware, since you dont even own your software.
>>54030595
You know, maybe the world would be better off without "quality" games. Maybe the unnatural mode of profit that "quality" games rely on to fund their nature as massive undertakings is a harbinger of the social ills associated with such advanced forms of escapism.
Maybe everything america's excessive, borderline unconstitutional handling of copyright and the way it promotes the useless arts is destroying the very fucking fabric of society and culture by enabling highly advanced escapism and discouraging cultural innovation that can not be milked for profit during the entire life+70 term and across every single transfer past the original creator.
>>54030649
What's so bad about making profit from something you have made ?
>>54030502
radio still works
>but the FCC
don't broadcast too often or from a fixed location. it's not worth the taxpayer dollars to catch you if you're not an honest to god 24/7 hitler speech replaying station.
>>54030298
It's also why the linux/nonmac-unix workstation/server/mainframe is awesome, in the context of science, academia, and industry where its paying contributors reside.
>>54030721
what's so bad about adding to that profit by denying people the right to modify and share their literal fucking physical property
>be carpenter
>make chair
>sell chair
>"NOW IF ANY YA'LL ELSE WANNA SIT ON MAH CHAIR, THAT'LL BE FIVE BUCKAROOS OR ANON GETS SUED TO SHIT. I MADE THE CHAIR, AH DESERVE THA MONAY."
>>54030595
I totally understand, and I personally pay for games that I enjoy. But consider that so many compters come preinstalled, with no authorization from the end user, and operating system that is completely proprietary, tracking everything we do, and offers no freedoms to the average user. I mean, how can we even justify purchasing digital formats of music for $15 a piece where the artists who actually make this music that has enriched our lives throughout hte year get maybe 10% of the earnings? There is another trend happening within games specifically where extra content, bragging rights, and godly items can be bought directly from the game developers. Perhaps this is a better system as the people who actively enojy the game can choose to support it through these extra features, instead of people having to pay for games that they may not even enjoy. Especially considering that physical media is practically obsolete, eleminating the cost for transportation of the media in the first place. For example, I did pirate Fallout 4. Now that I have played it and found that I do, in fact, enjoy the game, I am more than willing to pay the developers to have the game legally, with all the patches and the ability to add mods to it. It is a difficult transition, but I would argue that it is a change we need to make.
>>54030630
I understand, and those are excellent ways to break through censorship. Why, though, should we have to make subversive methods to break through censorship just to get information on what's happening in the world? You know already that the tor network, freenet, etc are being demonized by the establishment by referring to these services as being for childporn and drugs. I simply don't want to see happen to the internet what has happened to all other sources of media: get controlled by a few corporations that are only interested in supporting views that would be benefiical to their bottom line. The internet has, and should continue to be --
>>54030394
>Software worth sharing is software worth buying.
people who make FOSS as a hobby obviously don't agree
(if you're going to say all FOSS is bad please leave instead)
but seriously if you don't care about using open source software or having data collected without your permission (yes, it happens in windows 10, fucking google it) then windows is fine for you.
>>54030750
>Why, though, should we have to make subversive methods to break through censorship just to get information on what's happening in the world?
You're right, and in a perfect world we shouldn't have to. But oh well
>>54030394
A furry anime loli sex game is worth sharing but not worth buying
>>54030371
>This doesn't happen to Linux users
I hope you didn't order your parts online.
>>54030799
you are putting the furry anime loli sex game devs in the poor house with your criminal behavior
>>54030748
For me, it's :
>make chair
>sell chair
>you can lend it to your friend if you wish, but do not share it with the whole world
Would you do that with your gf for example ?
>>54030727
Are you seriously considering radio as an alternative to free speech on an obviously superior and international platform? I don't own a ham radio, and if I did, how am I supposed to connect with someone across the country, let alone across the world?
>>54030797
This is exactly my point. It isn't a perfect world because there are people in power who would like to control our speech and the spread of ideas. This is a fundamental use of the internet and we must fight as a collective, which is made possible through the communication that the internet has provided, to ensure that it remains a medium that we can continue to do so. People seem to feel so disconnected from one another that they forget that if we band together en masse, we can keep it the way it was always meant to be.
>>54030750
I'm personally ok with that kind of piracy. But many platforms offer refunds as well. You can test your game, if you don't enjoy it, refund it, and if you like it, keep it.
>>54030845
>I don't own a ham radio, and if I did, how am I supposed to connect with someone across the country, let alone across the world?
HAM radio actually has crazy range. You can actually pick up signals from across the world.
Not saying it's a viable alternative to the internet (its not exactly a high-bandwidth solution), but distance isn't its weak point.
>>54030875
>HAM radio actually has crazy range. You can actually pick up signals from across the world.
Just more proof that Earth is flat.
>>54030889
The Ice-Wall at the edge of the earth reflects radio signals and acts as an amplifier, of course.
>>54030889
Shut it down, they know
DRM
>>54030547
I put my smartphone in a small, sound dampening box inside a faraday cage as soon as I enter my home.
In public doesn't matter ,as I'll be monitored either way.
>>54030875
Also consider that it is very limited in terms of the information that it can provide. Listening to someone on a radio has significantly less impact than watching a video of what is happening, like in Egypt, Argentina, Iraq. Not to mention that everyone in the industrialized world has internet and may push for their governments to do something about tyranny in another. Very few people have a ham radio and even fewer know how to acutally use it. Everyone knows how to use the internet and can find through social media outlets with very little effort and in-depth understanding of what's happening
>>54030918
You should read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio#Modes_of_communication
>>54030918
oh and yes i agree there is a huge barrier to entry for HAM
>>54029598
>What negative consequences await me?
Getting cucked by prajeets at MS
There are backdoors in nonfree software.
>>54029598
In 10 years, you probably won't be able to access any of the documents or emails you write today.
>>54030367
Almost all of these are solved with a anonomizing proxy. What's your point?
>>54029598
Microsoft and other corporations already have all your passes. Now they'll study you to learn what is more probable to you to buy, and they'll sell things to you without you knowing they're putting an effort in it. Also you can't commit any kind of crime (i.e. torrenting) without they knowing. And it'll be used against you in the future or when they need it.
>>54029598
Becoming indian
