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Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
>For the newfags that keep replying to the "Belgian shitposter"
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>>54009060
>>54020712
fuck off shitposting faggot
>>54020712
>Continued:
>
>>Meme and Headphone Guides:
>meme
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>>Reviews:
>meme
>meme
>meme
>meme
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>>Communities
>meme
>meme
>meme
>>54020796
Report him. I wish we could just stop him from creating these threads.
>>54020828
>>54020825
>>54020796
Don't you losers have something better to do than discuss graphs? How about you listen to your headphones.
Did you guys
>>54020675
>>54020696
mean DT770m or DT770m? and what's the difference between the two?
This just arrived in the mail
I should have listened to you, /hpg/. Is there any way to get a refund from Amazon for this?
>>54020870
>listen
okay shill-fi go back to head-fi
>>54020880
what's wrong?
>>54020873
>what is the difference between DT770m and DT770m
literally nothing
>>54020888
cymbals seem really sharp and it does sound kind of veiled
>>54020701
>>54020712
OP Review:
Harsh treble and shitty low extension.
[_] not faggot
[X] faggot
>>54020910
>it does sound kind of veiled
that's why they're called "safe" headphones. (and in my opinion the most boring ones)
Why don't you guys just get a decent pair of headphones that don't sound like shit and preferably look good too and just use a equalizer instead of going after headphones with specific tonal balances?
>>54020941
So you finally got your random Walmart headphones to sound like an HD600? Please post results.
>Budget 50-70 dollar
>Location Germany
>Source Smartphone/Maybe PC
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed Closed
>Comfort level Im going to use it for maybe an 1 hour a day
>Preferred tonal balance bassy
>Preferred music Rap
>Past headphones Logitech G430
Can be over ear or on ear.
Should not look gay. Also, i don't want everybody to hear my music when i turn up the volume. Can pay a little bit more, depending on overall quality.
>>54020967
Sony 7506 or V6
>>54020870
>Don't you losers have something better to do than discuss graphs?
We might but it's not even that at the moment. And since only a few here can actually read and analyze graphs properly, they never spring any kind of worthwhile discussion. Not to mention how boring it is to argue about products' frequency response in the first place.
With the amount of shitposting nobody wants to contribute into anything here and the people with interest and know how leave quickly. I don't even bother linking news and stuff because of the absolutely toxic regular shitposters and the idiots who reply, including all Zeosposting, forcing products, OP forcing the "Belgian shiposter", someone spamming /b/ -tier reaction images from ten years ago just to mention some recent ones. Might even be mostly the same guy. Just report and ignore like always. Maybe these get interesting one day.
>>54020983
Any cheaper options? I don't have FLAC music anyways.
Are Koss PortaPros still recommended for their price range or are those image guides outdated?
>>54021192
they look gay as fuck
>>54020870
>mad about quantitative measurements
>on a technology board
I don't think you're very bright anon
are there any good over ear headphones that don't leak sound out?
>>54020964
>decent pair of headphones that don't sound like shit
>>54021298
There aren't any good closed headphones at all, the best sound you're going to get out of headphones are openbacks. Now if you don't mind bass get closed headphones.
>>54021271
As bright as AKGs?
>>54021367
there are good closed headphones and i do not mind bass, that was not the question and your bias means i am not interestes in your response to this post, bye.
>>54020924
Yeah the HD600 sound boring compared to my DT880s. This is why the HD800s are tuned so differently, they learned their lesson from the HD600 days.
>>54021298
ATH-M50Xs.
Wow, these were on my wishlist like two years ago and the price really dropped
Can I do better or should I bite?
>>54021428
Xiaomi pistons sound so much better. If you're buying them buy them for the build quality.
What are headphones with good liquid mids? I want slight fast bass emphasize and subdued treble. Preferably open and under 400 dollars. I'm willing to buy used.
>>54021418
are you sure they don't leak sound out? i've read they're neither good and do leak sound. does sound leak out less compared to the msr7's?
>>54021192
The guides are very outdated, but for cheap portable headphones, yes, they are still a good option.
>>54021298
MDR 7506/V6
M40X
DT770
K550 (or variants)
>>54021461
MSR7 have killer highs. Stray away. They leak sound too. Try the Sony MDR-1A.
>>54021483
Memes... How about suggesting something good for once?
>>54021499
>meme
>dosn't suggest alternative
>doesn't direct aswer to Anon asking in attempt to help
Hi guys, I just bought a set of Beyerdynamic dt880 pro 250 ohms. I have had one set of Koss 250 ohm headphones before and they were pretty quiet. I am thinking about buying a cheap, portable amp, but I don't know that it would be worth it over just returning these for a 32 ohm pair.
What do you guys think?
>>54021609
Should have gotten HD600, they run straight off my phone.
>>54021609
Can't you just wait for the DT880 to check if they sound good enough before returning?
Personally i preffer my DT880 amped, but it can be driven by my cellphone or my sansa clip to rather loud.
>>54021649
Yeah, it already shipped so I have to wait until it gets here anyway. I'll test it out.
Thank you for the tip. I also like Miyu.
>>54021485
the sony mdr-1a doesn't leak sound out? i really like those but it seems they must leak sound out like a pair of open back cans. i already have a great pair of open cans. i'm really just looking for good headphones that don't leak sound out.
>>54021649
Why the fuck do you post this picture everytime you post? Avatarfagging is a bannable offense here, you stupid newshit.
>>54021662
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45dU4WnD_LA
Nope, no sound leakage. Good isolation.
>>54021483
i've read the v6 leaks sound worse than some claim. the m40x i imagine is like the m50 in this regard. really like the dt770 but no removable cable. read bad things about k550.
do you have any objective sound leak out comparison for any of these?
>>54021677
>thinking that is avatarfagging
spot the newfag
>>54021710
i didn't see any mention of that in the review in fact he specifically points out a bass port/hole in them. and can you compare and contrast how much the sound leaks out with anything else?
>>54021661
Cool, hope you like it, if anything you can always pic another options, plenty of easy to drive headphones.
>>54021732
I know what avatarfagging is but he posts the same picture everytime he's here, how is that any different from having a avi on a forum?
>>54021787
he posts it the first time he posts in the thread, not every consecutive post after that with a different picture of the same character you fucking newfag.
>>54021733
yes.
>>54021823
>>54021787
>>54021732
/hpg/ is so shit today. Why is avatar fagging related to headphones?
>>54021830
show the results then
>>54021846
>/hpg/ is so shit today
no shit, zeosposting is still going on.
>>54021712
7506's seal out outside sound very well, I just put mine on my knee and I can barely hear the sound coming from them with loudness at above-average listening levels, but one could tell that anyway by how much they attenuate outside noise in the first place.
>>54021856
but avatarfagging is the worse.
>>54021868
good thing nobody is avatarfagging then, just you newfagging.
>>54021787
>doesn't know what avatarfagging is
>calling newshit one of the oldest fags on /hpg/
>>54021867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaPMqWbdPxY
Yep, probably one of the best headphones you can get for under 100 dollars. These have been the standard since the 80s when it comes to studio monitoring. you need really good isolation when in the studio. Other headphones don't compare, the best part is that these don't clamp too hard.
>>54021823
>he posts it the first time he posts in the thread
Why does he? Why does he feel the need to make it known that he's entering the thread?
>not every consecutive post after that with a different picture of the same character you fucking newfag.
You're fucking retarded.
>>54021876
>one of the oldest fags on /hpg/
No one cares.
>>54021930
>Why does he feel the need to make it known that he's entering the thread?
shitposting this hard on your first day here? might be best you go try a little harder on reddit before stepping up to the big leagues here.
>You're fucking retarded.
i'm not the one calling 'avatarfagging' when i don't know what it is
>>54021867
i don't care at all about outside sound but rather sound coming from the headphone and leaking out. i'm mostly interested to see if anyone has done any objective comparisons on this.
>>54021930
Coke anon always talks about headphones, music or audio, right now you are the one making yourself known while also straying from the thread's topic.
>>54021970
>objective
you're asking the wrong person, zeos shitposter doesn't know the meaning of the word.
>>54021970
No, sorry. Only subjectivity is allowed here. You might want to find your answer over at reddit.
>>54021990
yeah i mean such as db comparisons using high end audio equipment on a dummy head, taking db measurements at various sound levels, using standardized setting. anyone done this? all i ever seem to find is discussion of isolating outside sound rather than sound coming from the headphone itself.
>>54021998
objectivity>subjectivity
>>54022038
tyll has isolation in his measurement graphs.
>>54021953
>the big leagues here.
Top kek. Kill yourself.
>i'm not the one calling 'avatarfagging' when i don't know what it is
As I said, you're fucking retarded. Keep sucking his dick.
>>54022049
Implying tyll can hear loud things. Last time i was at the Washington Rocky Audio Show i met tyll and he wanted to try my moded DT880s, he blasted those things far beyond what most people could tolerate and said they sounded smooth and gentle. Why does this old coot get any attention?
>>54022079
spot the redditor
>>54022091
nobody cares about your personal grudges against people, his measurements have nothing to do with him personally, outside of his compensated FR.
>>54022091
Do you have pics of him wearing your DT880s? (All stories are a lie until proven).
>>54022115
No body cares about
>muh square waves and Cumulative Spectral Degay graphs.
>>54022141
tyll doesn't have CSDs in his pdfs.
>>54022091
I saw Tyll at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
>>54022049
are the results parsed somewhere? can't find anything about this in the reviews.
>>54022128
>>54022096
It's you isn't it? You keep calling me a newfag and redditor because you're projecting. I can't imagine how new you have to be to refer to this place as "the big leagues".
>>54022164
the measuirement pdfs, to the right of the frequency response graph.
>>54022187
fuck off redditor.
>>54022195
seems like those measurements are for outside sound reduction only. ivm specifically looking for measurements of how much outside sound the headphones themselves make.
>>54022229
if you're going to be in a public space just use in-ears like every other non-autist and you don't have to worry about leakage.
>>54022195
Yes, project more you fucking faggot. I remember the first time I came here too, I thought I'd found the best place on the internet. I was 13 then, you're probably even younger.
>the big leagues here
As I said, kill yourself.
>>54022246
i can't wear in ears and have no desire to do so.
>>54022229
How autistic is your music that you care so much about people not hearing it? Autism speaks.
>>54021435
Where can I get a legit pair of Xiaomi Pistons?
>>54022249
>keeps spouting projecting though he doesn't know what it means
>just like he was spouting avatarfag though he doesn't know what it means
you newfags sure are vocal about your ignorance.
>>54022260
Gearbest.
>>54021930
lol, are you really that mad about my old template?
Might as well report me and go back to talking about headphones, isn't it? You know, instead of shitting all over the thread with unrelated subjects.
>>54021930
>>54021983
Just ignore it, dudes.
>>54022038
The best you are probably going to find is isolation measurements, i'm not if anyone measures leakage from headphones, but usually the better the isolation the less it leaks.
Innerfidelity and headphone.com both offer isolation measurements iirc.
>>54022276
Stop zeos posting, shock off!
>>54022274
cool, thanks anon
>>54022259
i could be recording something where i need to be on top of the source and listening while the mic picks up no external noises, while incapable of wearing iem's. or maybe i occasionally need total silence while listening to something. i'm not alone. there's a need for the data i request and you don't have it.
>>54022303
and you clearly don't want to take the time for look for a solution to your extremely niche problem on your own and get upset when people don't want to do it for you.
>>54022303
Wow what autistic endeavour requires such a sensitive mic. If youre a true audio engineer or boom mic operator youd know the answer. It's a industry standard. Look it up.
>>54022276
>lol, are you really that mad about my old template?
>Might as well report me and go back to talking about headphones, isn't it? You know, instead of shitting all over the thread with unrelated subjects.
I'm not mad at you at all anymore.
>>54022262
>still projecting
>refers to plebbit/leddit as 'reddit'
>doesn't know what avatarfagging and projecting is
>calls others newfags constantly
>you
Pick all.
>>54022351
i understand now, you think you're not a newfag because you came here from /v/ yesterday.
>>54020701
>-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --
>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
The only thing worse than StackOverflow's dumb rules and overzealous mods: /g/.
>>54022274
I'm curious as to why you didn't say amazon. I literally just bought some from them, is it just that Gearbest has better prices or are the ones from amazon likely fake?
>>54022319
i've looked hence why i'm asking. sometimes other people have stumbled across measurements that fail to get index'd properly. my request is no where near niche either. every retard looking for good headphones asks about ones that don't leak sound out but are given the same run around by jack asses like you.
>>54020895
i mean whats the difference betweeen DT 770pro and DT 770m and which ones do people recommend?
>>54022359
>the big leagues here
>>54022373
>every retard looking for good headphones asks about ones that don't leak sound out but are given the same run around by jack asses like you.
[citation needed]
most normal people just use in-ears because their genetics aren't fucked to the point where they can't use them.
>>54022373
Frick off bucko.
>>54022348
can't use a boom mic in some situations and it can pertain to both professional and personal uses. the fact is you can't answer the question so fuck off, retard.
>>54022401
seriously shock off before i download my boot.exe into your mainframe.
>>54022392
nearly every hpg someone asks for recommends on closed back hp they can listen to that won't bug their family while they listen.
>>54022394
must suck to have your life revolve around shitposting on hpg and be incapable of providing an actually good answer to a basic question. you're worthless, dumpass.
>>54022441
i don't think you know what citation means.
>>54022441
If you think tiny speakers will bug your family then you need to move out.
>>54022351
>not mad anymore
Than why keep going with this? it's such a silly debate anyway.
>>54022303
Talking just from experience here, but i've recorded some stuff with the v6 as monitoring, never leaked enough to show on recording.
>>54022463
i know your eardrums have been obliterated by shitty music in you're moms basement that doesn't mean the rest of us are isolated douches.
Just got these a few days ago. Love em, but why do they sound awful without being amped, when they're only rated at ~60 ohms?
>>54022476
but is the v6 objectively better in this regard? i'd rather get something a bit nicer. i've reaf many complaints of the v6 leaking sound out too, so i'm not so sure it's actually good for that either.
>>54022485
Glitch, please.
>>54022499
Learn to take a photo. I can barely tell those are AKGs. Also they sound awful because they are awful and AKG are inefficient. You can't tell efficiency simply by looking at the impedance.
Is Superlux a trusty brand?
>>54022511
Did you watch Zeos' review? They isolate wonderfully. If you want the most isolating thing just wear shitty earbuds with some gun ear muffs. That will prevent any sound leakage.
>>54022529
oh god what have they created ew
>>54022529
What are those?
>>54022511
>something a bit nicer
Lots of people i know liked the DT770 as recording monitors, never heard any leak from those either, personally i preffer the v6 fr as it shows more problems in the recording, but the dt770 is more comfortable imo.
Isolation on v6 did got a bit better with Auray Sheep Skin pads.
>objectively
Talking just from experience here dude, not sure i've ever met anyone who works with this and had problems with closed-back leakage, hell, i've seen people use semi-open during vocal recordings with no leakage problems.
>>54022548
i already have iem's and open back cans but i have a third situation where i specifically need closed back over ear that leak as little sound OUT as possible. i got no such impression from that review which i watched several times.
>>54022619
>he watched zeos several times
>Budget
1200€, might go a little higher is something really good is like a 100 bucks more
>Location
Europe
>Source
Shieet high-end amp and dac
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open, but close is fine too
>Comfort level
Comfy preferred, but not over sound quality
>Preferred tonal balance
Treble and mids, any bass is fine
>Past headphones
Rubbish headsets
What the hell does "fun" and "boring headphones means? These expressions don't make any sense at all for me.
>>54022641
Also the budget is excluding the shipping.
>>54022511
They're good enough for professional recordists the world over, so just a get pair and shut up already.
>>54022641
HD800
>>54022639
i tend to read and watch any info pertinent to a question i have multiple times over. there's only so much relevant info out there and i'm really good at skimming.
>>54022694
what if i want them for listening in a situation where i can't use my open cans? still good then?
>>54022677
boring is something that is flat but accurate
fun headphones are vibrant that may give an exaggerated expression of certain frequencies but ultimately results in a more interesting listen (e.g. bassier headphones)
>>54020828
fuck off you mong the zeos fag isn't the one making threads
>>54022694
Thanks, but are there any alternatives? Not that I have anything against senns, just want to have more options.
>>54022641
K812 has great mids and treble if that it what you want the most.
>>54022721
I see, thank you anon. In the end this is a subjective matter, some people might find it fun to listen to somethin accurate and flat.
>>54022499
sensitivity is another thing that must be taken into account
>>54022677
HD600 = boring. Puts ya to sleep, no coherence or passion. To autist it means a flat sound profile, they type of headphones the Borg would be apathetic about.
TH-X00 = Fun. Makes you want to dance, lively and catchy. To autist it means a headphones with an emphasize on bass and treble, they will describe it as "nigger bass" because the antithesis of autism is a negro who knows how to have fun.
>>54022740
I'm not really sure what prices you have there in Europe, so I can't be certain, but your list basically reads like these headphones. Other headphones in this price range that I would personally consider are planar-magnetics, but their sound signature is the opposite of what you want, lots of bass and rolled-off highs.
>>54022694
>They're good enough for professional recordists the world over, so just a get pair and shut up already.
won't work. needs detachable cable otherwise i'd have already gotten the dt770's by now.
>>54022855
Just mod them, if I can make my own cables and connectors, you should too.
>>54022855
Well you're out of luck so glitch off.
>>54022855
Why didn't you jsut filled the form and requested something with detachable cable in the first place?
What are you recording anyway that requires that much isolation + a detachable cable? This is ridiculous.
>>54022830
OK, thanks anyway.
>>54022744
Thank you too, anon.
Now I'm kind of torn between these two since graphs are kinda similar and the price is also about the same. What would be the reason to consider one over the other?
My over ear headphones touch my ears and start to hurt after an hour. The pads cannot be replaced. Anything I can do?
>>54022529
Yes for bang for your buck. EVO 681 HD are $30, have detachable cable, 2 types of earpads and sound awesome for <$100 headphones(a little bassy though)
>>54022897
The sounds of no one caring.
>>54020941
Bump.
>>54022893
Goddamn it O'Hara, go back the 2099 already.
>>54022951
I can't i have to stop some nark zeos poster from imploding the /hpg/ of the near future.
>>54022897
because my original inquiry was general. i wasn't asking for prices or other specific features. the cable bit came in a separate question.
>>54023028
Go murp yourself before i dox you on the ethernet.
>>54023049
hows being underage working out for you
>>54023028
Fuck you bitch.
>>54022913
I think you can toss a coin as to which is better, in this this price range it's more about small differences, but the HD800 can also be easily modded to sound to taste, as I did on mine (sbaf resonator mod).
>>54022364
There's some reviews of people complaining that they got a fake pair. You can probably get a legit pair on amazon, just make sure that you can return them if they're fake
is K612 sounding gud or boring?
>>54023337
shit. zeos reviewed them recently and they are by far some of the most uncomfortable unlistenable AKGs to date.
>>54023423
who the fuck is zeos
>>54023497
Youtuber who reviews audio gear, and considering the amount of shitposting done in his name, he seems to have a rabid fan base.
>Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO vs Sennheiser HD 558
This is going to be my first pair of cans other than $20 IEMs
>>54023548
Do you want isolation and/or preffer V-shape signature? If so DT770, otherwise HD558.
Both are good for the price so you will probably enjoy either way.
>>54023536
meh, probably just one or two shitposters picking on a new shitposting trend, happens all the time.
Budget: around 200 euros
Location: Denmark
Preferred type of headphone: on-ear, closed
Comfort: pretty comfy i guess
Tonal balance: i like my dt 880's
Preferred music: classical, jazz, indie, folk, /mu/ shit
Past headphones: ive owned the hd 25's earlier, but i returned them. I can get a pair of beyerdynamic t50p for cheap, should i just go for these? Im gonna be using these out of my smartphone
>>54023593
Thank you.
Getting my ears cleaned by doctor was the best decision ever. Its the best free mod you can do
>>54023791
kek, you could just buy stronger amp
>>54023791
Are you some disgusting shitskin who never cleans? Or are you some dumbass who only uses IEMs?
>>54023849
keked loudly
>>54022925
>a little bassy
They're some of the most bass-heavy budget cans around.
>>54023791
It doesn't matter when you're an old man. After 20 years of age your hearing is only half as good as a 19 year old's.
I need something like jvc ha-rx700. It that price/quality range
>>54020941
Bump.
>>54024019
>jvc ha-rx700
Not this meme again...
>>54022913
The K812 is you want mids or any AKG for that matter, mids are their specialty.
>>54022677
They are subjective terms which can be only used to describe how a certain kind of sound sounds to you. You can safely ignore all of them.
>>54022721
>>54022783
And both of these are the polar opposite of what I find "fun" if I can even use that word to describe a sound signature. If you find specific coloration in your sound and find listening to your gear fun then sure. It mostly just annoys me when I my gear colors the sound.
>>54023337
It sounds good but if you're in europe go for the K702
>>54024052
This. K812s for the win. I tried my buddies K7xx and i was pleasantly surprised by this absolute gem.
>>54024035
wait... what?
>>54022641
I'd highly consider you to research a lot but just out of the blue, HD 800.
>>54020941
I got the headphones that I wanted which did a lot of stuff exceptionally well and used an equalizer to fix the problems in response. I don't mess around with different sound profiles, I just equalized them to as flat as I could and haven't looked for anything else ever since.
>>54023955
I hope you're not equating the range of frequency a person can hear to their ability to hear. A person can hear up to 18khz and still be hearing impaired if they can't tell a sound apart from background noise.
>>54024140
Yep, just like a headphone can produce all frequencies equally and still not sound good, after all, headphones are just microphones in reverse.
>>54022374
DT 770 Pro 250 ohms with a nice amp is really good
>>54024201
>scooped mids
Who is this for?
>Budget
30-50e
>Location
Euro(Lithuania
>Preferred type of headphone
headset
>Comfort level
quality is more important
>Past headphones
Shitseries 5h.
>>54024268
Save up €20 more for a Kingston HyperX Cloud.
>>54020941
Bump.
I'm having trouble choosing between Sennheiser 598 and the Ossic X (that thing looks rad as fuck. I'm a bit leery though)
>>54024350
Every other "gaming" headset (except some, very expensive by comparison, Sennheiser or Audio-Technica ones) is shit.
>>54024433
HD 598 no question. Be extremely skeptical of shitstarter stuff and anything new in headphone industry.
>>54023647
Bump?
>>54024433
HD558 is cheaper, has the exact same build as the HD598 and can be modded to sound exactly like a HD598, although many preffer HD558 stock sound to HD598.
Only go for the HD598 if it's chaper or if you really like the different colors.
>>54024268
K240 and a cheap mic (doesnt matter)
>>54024501
the HD 558 and HD 598 are both shit
>>54020941
Bump.
>>54024433
>Ossic X
Those will be great. The 598 are trash and have no resell value. You'd be stuck with a dud. Ossic X was really impressive at a recent audio show. It seemed to have better positioning than my LCD Xs.
>>54024528
Tell that to the Anon asking, not me.
>>54024433
>>54024467
I find the Ossic X questionable too, there are just too many triggers
>crowd funding
>multi-driver
>audio over USB
>wireless
>mic
>only $300 to make it all work
....yeah, nah.
Besides, everyone knows you only need two drivers even for the most realistic spatial sound, whatever they're trying to do physically could just as well have been done digitally and put bigger/better drivers in.
>>54024579
Yes a one good driver per ear and DSP is all you need to do that properly.
>>54024579
>multi-driver
fukken kek
Notice how the top brands wouldn't touch this gimmick with a 100ft pole.
how good is the modmic 4.0? has anyone tried it or does anyone have any non sponsored reviews?
>>54024605
Because they are saving on cost. Dharma by EnigmaAcoustics did it with success and it's a smaller brand. I have a review sample from Ossic and multidrivers are nothing to scoff at. There is a reason speakers use multiple drivers and it's not to provide a gimmick.
>>54024550
Did you listen to the same content with the LCD X? HRTF encoded sound will sound vastly more spatial and realistic on any headphone, even $20 IEMs. It doesn't mean they necessarily have a good soundstage.
>>54024654
Yeah same amp and multibit dac. Pretty incredible but i wish they did balanced cable entries.
>>54024647
>There is a reason speakers use multiple drivers and it's not to provide a gimmick.
Using that as an argument why they should be used in headphones simply doesn't work. The acoustics here are vastly different.
>>54024647
And that is why you should just buy a good pair of speakers.
>>54024433
i'm >>54020880
it's not like they're terrible but I was super disappointed when I put them on. I've never used the other one but I'd recommend you keep searching
>>54024694
You're forgetting the fact that with an enclosure acoustics are vastly more controlled. With speakers you may need acoustic foam and traps to correct the rooms acoustics.
>>54020941
Bump.
>>54024737
Because autism. They should have listened to Zeos... S M H.
>>54024550
Can you comment on the sound quality of the Ossic x?
>>54024754
Who the fuck is Zeos?
>>54024737
They should have bought speakers in the first place. Some cheap craigslist speakers will sound better than the latest TOTL headphones.
>>54024787
the greatest audio reviewer in the history of the internet
>>54024647
>There is a reason speakers use multiple drivers and it's not to provide a gimmick.
Bad analogy. Speakers require multiple drivers because they need to move a large volume of air, but large drivers cannot accurately produce high frequencies. Headphone drivers can reproduce all the frequencies that matter.
But that's besides the point, in all the promotional material it's been shown that the drivers were all identical, they're not for handling different frequency ranges but for projecting sound from multiple angles.
>>54024784
Pretty good. I'd say better than the venerable 598s but i'd love to have more time to listen to them.
I have 2 cables going up to my headphones. I can move the cord on my right side of the headphones without anything happening to the sound. But moving the cord on the left can make the sound in the left ear go away. What causes this? Looked at the cable and nothing is broke or bent. Also looked inside the headphones and nothing is broken.
>>54024804
This, good looks and a hot wife. Probably gets laid every day by that fire place he installed every night which is something unfamiliar with /hpg/ as they're all virgins.
>>54024815
they suck compared to HD598
>>54024814
Just like speakers. You don't just have one speaker, you have two or more.
>>54024647
>Because they are saving on cost.
You have inside knowledge of the companies' R&D?
If multi-drivers were that viable and accurate we should have them running rampant for premium headphones. They'd make a great marketing tool. Of course it's my assumption.
>>54024856
You got to try them? Did you get one of the Ossic holo stickers? Fuck i wish i got one but they ran out.
>>54024754
BAKA 1000 is a great pair of headphones,,, with the extra deep pads.
>>54024815
Nice, will follow up on those! Them and a descent VR set would kill!
>>54024870
>You got to try them?
nope.avi
welcome to /hpg/
>>54024857
You also only need two speakers for perfect positional sound, get some nice studio monitors with well controlled off-axis dispersion, position them just right in a treated room, and you can enjoy binaural recordings without headphones.
However, each speaker may have up to three drivers (woofer, mid, tweeter; or two mids and a tweeter), because it's necessary. In a headphone it's not.
>>54024731
And very different. Multiple drivers with a crossover network are used in loudspeakers to avoid driver break up modes and allow higher maximum SPL and frequency response extension. This needs room to work which headphones simply don't have and these aren't problems in headphones in the first place. A small transducer like the ones used in headphones work well as full range drivers on their own with good extension, easily enough SPL and in the best cases really well controlled driver break up.
And I assume that the original point of using multiple drivers was to stack them in an array to simulate HRTF which is simply a terrible idea when we have DSP.
>>54024946
Binaural recordings don't work with loudspeakers in a room even if you are correct about only needing two channels for "perfect" positional sound.
>>54024904
Yeah they're working with really passionate engineers that worked for Harman Kardon and Onkyo. They seem to know what they're doing.
>>54024975
>Binaural recordings don't work with loudspeakers in a room
In a highly controlled environment with the right hardware you can. A friend of a friend of mine runs his own recording studio and showed me this trick on their mixing monitors in the booth, the experience was quite surreal. It's simply beyond the level of pedantry required to achieve this result in your own home, which is why surround sound systems exist.
>>54025082
>which is why surround sound systems exist
yeah, that and headphones.
What mic does /hpg/ recommend? Thinking of getting the MV51.
>>54024856
the HD 598 is trash to so find something better
>>54025499
>Not suggesting alternative
>Not aswering original Anon in atempt to help him
Opinion discarded.
>>54025608
Sennshill faggot fuck off
>>54025612
>stop liking what i don't like
grow up.
>>54024433
HD598
>>54020941
Bump.
>>54025935
Stop bumping, also, what do you even consider a decent pair of headphones?
There is only so much that EQ can fix.
>>54025966
SRH1840. Shure also makes the most neutral sounding headphones so they're the best to use with equalizers too.
I feel like this needs an update to include zeosfags and that newfaggot who doesn't understand the template. Does the anon who made this still lurk here? The versions I made never reached this level of A E S T H E T I C.
>>54026096
>judging someone's taste in waifu
therearemanythingsthatneedtobeerased.png
>>54026142
anon with a shit waifu detected
>>54026096
>newfaggot who doesn't understand the template
Is this really necessary? It's the first time someone had problems with templates in a long time.
I think an uptade on Op's rules to explain why /hpg/ doesn't care for wireless/headsets might be more usefull since the current version only results in anons asking about it anyway since they don't understand the whys and therefore just assume it's bullshit.
Also something like "if you disagree with a headphone suggestion, give and alternative to whomever asked for help instead of getting mad and calling people shills" since this happens all the fucking time and prompts even more shitposting.
We could also use an updated headphone guide.
>>54026252
Yeah, I think you're right about the template. It's not a big deal. We should be encouraging more constructive discourse in the /hpg/ community. People should also ignore shills more.
>>54020941
Bump.
>>54025612
Seriously i hate sennshills, they never stop!
>>54026294
>encouraging more constructive discourse in the /hpg/
Indeed, i think a good way is to link audio news on Op, problem is, i'm pretty sure shitposters would just ramble about how whaever it is sucks.
The problem with shills/brandbashers is that that they attack on first sight, for newfags to /hpg/ (most of the anons making requests) it's hard to know what is solid suggestion and what is shilling/bashing shitpost, maybe a "take every suggestion with a grain of salt and do your own research on what you get here" on Op would help.
On a side topi: The template thing, is it too soon to suggest that Anons make their own? It was fun when it started, then it got old, now however only a handfull of Anons have them, i bet there are new posters with interesting headphones/setups.
>>54026351
>>54026493
>religion
How is this relevant? I thought /hpg/ stopped believing faerie tales along with graph measurements. Grow up.
>>54026493
Nah, sennshills are by far the worst.
>>54026493
Who here /church of latter days sennhieser/ . Let me tell you, if you fell for one of those nutty akg churches you're deeply mistaken.
>>54026252
Where are the SHP9500 on that tier list? They should be replacing the HD600. I'll fix this next OP.
>>54026607
that list is from 2013 you know. but yeah, current Op needs an uptade as well.
>>54026493
>>54026543
>>54026544
>>54026576
kek, someone must photoshop headphones on dracula and change religion for shills
>>54024975
Binaural on speakers can work if crosstalk cancellation DSP is in place.
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Audiotechnica ATH-M40x
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Shillheiser HD598
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>>54027504
This is the new template.
>>54027504
>Fostex T50RP Mk.3
Also add the T40RP Mk3 and T20RP Mk3, the only difference is the material glued over the outer cup vents and in the case of the T20RP Mk3, a small plastic cover over the balljoint inside the cup is missing.
They can also be found for lower prices than the T50RP Mk3 from time to time.
Hi guys, I'm looking for a new pair of headphones, and I really like the Sony MDR-MA900s. The only problem is that they look fragile and kinda flimsy. Can anyone here confirm or deny this?
>>54027563
Alright. Noted.
