After multiple KDE shill threads in past month I gave it a spin. I'm using Manjaro XFCE for few years so I decided to test out their KDE release. Fucking hell this is beautiful and snappy even on old c2d 2 GHz, 4GB RAM laptop. I like where Linux is heading, will test new Gnome too but I'll be installing KDE version of Manjaro for sure. What's your prefered KDE distro and why? Tips for new KDE user? Opinions on new versions of KDE and Gnome?
Thanks for the heads up, OP. I was planning on using Manjaro KDE when I buy a new desktop. The Xfce version is simply rock-solid.
The only tip for KDE I can give is to look up drop-down terminals. I remember there were at least two KDE-specifc ones. Yakuake was the name I think. Post more impressions.
>>54001380
So far everything is snappy. no crashes. Browsing, watching a show and no issues. Like you said XFCE is rock solid but this is beautiful. Dolphin file options are incredible. I was about to bitch about the only cosmetic flaw I've found and that is the bottom panel being too "fat" but one click on the setting button and height is trimmed. Will look into drop down terminals but I usually run Terminator, it's comfy.
Well Alt+Space to start krunner and then just remove the start button. No reason to have it then krunner does the same thing.
If you don't like plasma/ the kde desktop you can just install XFCE and replace the xfwm with kwin and that way have most of the KDE experience.
>>54001616
But you can't see applications by category with krunner, can you?
>>54001616
>Alt+Space to start krunner and then just remove the start button. No reason to have it then krunner does the same thing.
Thanks for this, I won't remove it yet due to categories and exploration but I will use it for sure.. I could test it out before going full KDE, why not.
>>54001038
>c2d 2 GHz, 4GB RAM laptop
this is not crappy
>1Ghz 512MB RAM
this is crappy (but still usable)
>>54001652
No but i never use that feature anyway.
>>54001038
>What's your prefered KDE distro and why?
the one the ex kubuntu leader is releasing
or kaos for example
>>54001743
You sure showed him, hahahahaha!!!!
>>54001038
>this is beautiful
then you clearly know nothing about design
>>54001697
I didn't said it was crappy but it is old (2009) compared to modern hardware. I expected slower performance compared to XFCE for sure. It uses 150-200 RAM (this could change when installed I guess) more compared to XFCE version of Manjaro and that's it.
>>54001743
Anon not a single person said a word vs any other OS here. No point in starting OS war, let us have a normal thread for once.
>>54001775
Personal preference I guess.
The gtk2 only, Openbox with lxpanel, adwaita with oxygen icons, pc i recently set up looks better.
>inb4 adwaita
I tweaked it a little.
>>54001799
>crappy
yea sorry. my bad
also checked
>>54001775
Back to the ricershit general
>>54001799
this is ubuntu 14.04
>>54001038
Since I have a laptop with intel cpu+gpu i installed arch and yes plasma5.6 is sick.finally no more crashes.gnome 3.20 is still better imo. Manjaro is a great distro and everyone with hardware issues should try it because mhwd is awesome.small tip though. When installing aur packages with yaourt use the --noconfirm flag so it doesnt nag you constantly.
>>54001038
Welcome to the superior KDE master race.
Make sure you are using KDE 5.6, there are a few bugs that have been addressed from the former 5.5
Honestly, Arch KDE was more responsive than Kubuntu for meme. Manjaro should be fine though
>>54001927
Yes, RAM usage is higher. It looks and feels like a moden desktop (again personal preference) that average user might use/like so I guess it's justified.
>>54001949
Thanks for the advice. I'll try Gnome 3.20 this week, tried Fedora with latest stable Gnome (can't remember which version) and it was slow/sluggish on this machine, YMMV.
>>54002008
Could you tell me what is the biggest bug/issue you found so far, any tips?
>>54001743
>I don't know what is a panel widget
What a fucking retard, you got bigger things to worry about
>>54002033
>the biggest bug/issue you found so far
The first one in the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0TzoXhAbxg
Fluxbox is best.
Qt-jaro general?
>>54001038
Looked nice until I saw that bottom bar. Even the bottom bar looked nice til I looked over at that system tray. Something about it just looks awful and I don't know what. tbqh the left side of the task bar isn't great, either. Inconsistent icon sizing. Why is Firefox's launcher nice and big but its actual entry in the taskbar is way smaller for some reason.
>>54002167
Fresh KDE doesn't come with shortcuts in bottom panel
KDE encourages the use of krunner
>>54002208
Alright so every KDE desktop I've seen has looked like absolute crap but that actually looks pretty alright anon.
>>54002208
Easily removed, fact that you already know. New users would/could click on those icons, rest can just remove them and modify it to their liking. I like it so far.
>>54002331
Glad to hear, fellow KDE user.
Things from my experience:
-The grsecurity kernel may cause some issues (menu shortcuts takes a long time to load, don't know about other DEs though. Currently using the Zen kernel, shit runs faster than a racing car)
-SDDM/Login manager is actually still shitty, hope they fix this soon
-Avoid qBittorrent, I cannot configure it not to start itself from the bootup. I use Ktorrent, which is likely to be pre installed in KDE
-Photoshop CS6 (WINE) doesn't like Kwin. You can use it with KDE/Openbox though.
-If you EVER lag, toggle desktop effects: Alt+Shift+F12
>>54002460
Decent tips, thanks anon.
>>54002519
Also, if you freeze because the login manager still sucks balls,
Go to tty: Cntrl+Alt+F4
Come back to DE : Cntrl+Alt+F1
>>54002584
Good to know, finally a decent thread on this board.
>>54002584
ssdm was ok when i tried it last year
>>54002008
Kde is sick.I dont like how they handle their config files though.
>>54001538
>So far everything is snappy. no crashes. Browsing, watching a show and no issues.
LOL Linux users get excited when their system doesn't crash after doing the most basic things
Can I replace Win10 for Manjaro?
>>54002723
Latest technology, fucktard. Your explorer wasn't written 5 months ago
>>54002723
No. It was a reference to multiple comments on this board about KDE being unstable. Lurk more or think more before posting.
KDE is pretty decent. I have a Thinkpad T400 and it runs fine.
>>54002770
>>54002765
Nah, I'm fine using an OS made by professionals since I'm not poor :P
mangina is a shitty distro, no matter what version
>>54002797
Spotted the NEET /v/ cuck
Epic xDD
>>54001616
Hoe do you set super to open krunner?
>>54002167
I'll let you in on a little secret... KDE doesn't understand alignment.
>>54001616
That sounds like a real Frankenstein desktop
Sounds interesting though
>>54002846
Fascinating meme
>>54002784
>Tyler
Australia? Is your moms name Sally Schmidt?
>>54002866
HAHA, they obviously *still* don't understand that horizontal scrolling is a fucking disaster either.
>>54002886
Stay mad gtk cuck
>>54002906
The resident KDE shill.
>>54002884
Nope, American.
>>54002797
Enjoy your botnet.
>>54002784
looks simple and comfy. How's performance?
>>54003025
>Implying botcucks dont enjoy being cucked
>>54002866
Adnane it's time to stop
>>54003056
time to stop stalking me, I am not a cute loli
>>54003056
I was calling him a shill for weeks but the truth is that fucker convinced me, KDE is really good. Ado you could ask KDE for some promotion fee, don't do it djabe jeboga patak.
>>54003113
What are you talking about? I'm an executive running Linux
>>54003029
Good, T400 is poorfag hardware.
>>54003146
That's great. I expected KDE to be far worse performace-wise.
Adnan signing out
I'd like to switch to Linux but I'm being held hostage by ms office and foobar2000.
Send help.
>>54003287
>ms office
Doesn't it work on browsers these days?
>>54001038
I want to use manjaro but there is something causing my computer to lock up which usually happens when I plug my laptop back in... It locks up pretty wierd where I can move the mouse cursor but cant click or type and if there was a video playing the video will stop but the sound will keep playing it didn't matter what DE I used it did the same with KDE or XFCE. The same thing happens with Tumbleweed so its not manjaro its just something that hasn't been pushed through to ubuntu or its derivatives yet
>>54002824
You can use ksuperkey
>>54002730
If you don't call yourself gamer sure.
>>54002853
Nah not that bad. Had to fix icons with dolphin and system settings
>>54003308
Very, very few features unfortunately. I don't know if it's a tech limitation or intentional for pricing.
>>54002853
That it allows for such frankensteining attempts is actually a testament to the greatness of Xfce
>>54001799
Manjaro Xfce riced a bit
>>54002846
It's a shame. I really think Qt as a framework looks better than GTK, and I've heard from a lot of people that Qt makes things so easy, but all Qt gets as babby's first intro to it is frickin buggy, mostly-ugly KDE. This guy's
>>54002866
KDE actually looks pretty alright for a KDE desktop but who knows how long it took him to actually get it to look like that. Probably months. I've really tried a couple times to make KDE look nice but man that panel just about fights you over it.
>>54009929
> but who knows how long it took him to actually get it to look like that.
Looks like default Breeze Dark theme that at least comes with Tumbleweed and Manjaro
>>54010173
This is a fresh install of tumbleweed only a couple days old the only thing that has been done to it is going into settings and selecting the Breeze Dark theme
>>54009929
Dude it's literally the default settings. I only did one thing: Change look and feel to breeze dark
This isn't shitty KDE4
>>54010173
>Tumbleweed and Manjaro
Kubuntu too
>>54010308
Huh. Every time I've ever tried to rice KDE I haven't been able to get it any better looking than this
>>54001038
and that looks awful
Alright, first time linux-fag looking to pop my cherry with Manjaro KDE. Anything I should know before installing a dual-boot? Performance on 2.0 live USB was sluggish, but will that change when installing onto an SSD?
>>54010682
Start with something newbie friendly: Mint with Cinnamon.
t. Arch+KDE user
>KDE
>>54010768
What DE do you use.
I need to puke as well
KDE is so buttfucking ugly, a ten year old could do a better job. it's hilarious that KDEfags keep saying it looks "beautiful", they have no fucking taste.
i have never seen a worse designed DE in my life
OpenSuse KDE version with Openbox as WM, is as comfy as it gets, thou no rxvt avaiable and xterm is a pain in the ass to setup as i want
>>54010827
>Gnome cucks too afraid to reveal their own DE so he doesn't get shitted on
>>54010859
i use OSX. it was designed by professionals for professionals, not some 15 year old hobbyists that desperately try to copy microsofts and googles design philosophy.
and it shows
>>54001038
>>54001949
>>54003823
>>54002008
>>54002730
>>54003823
>>54003823
>>54007389
>>54010173
>>54010500
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>>54010882
Oh guess who was shitposting with his facebook machine
That one faggot whose brain is filled with cum. Comeback when you actually can minimise and maximise your shitty DE
>>54010919
Epic xDD
>>54010929
nice cumback kiddo
>>54010919
You mean the guys whose recommended solution to an SSL cert expiring was for their users to set the clock back?
D R O P P E D
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>Feature Creep: The DE
>>54010939
>Maccucks thinking they belong to a tech board
Get out cum dispenser
KDE is one of the reasons no one takes open sores design seriously. I bet they used GIMP to make the UI lmao
>>54010945
Oh, it gets better!
They delay security updates for weeks for "stability"!
http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/
>>54010993
manjaro shills can't even defend this. whenever you bring it up suddenly all of them vanish
>>54010993
>>54011014
Wew lad, never heard of security policy?
>>54011014
>>54011043
To be fair, they claim to have improved their policy for security updates: http://allanmcrae.com/2015/02/improvements-on-manjaro-security-updates/
However, I wouldn't trust them even half as much as Debian, especially because they're downstream from Arch.
>>54011014
anon the reason they vanish is because they all switch to REAL distros.
>>54011043
TIL blocking critical security updates makes you more secure
>>54011056
>TIL blocking critical security updates makes you more secure
Wow what a fucking retard, can't even read
>>54011043
mfw manjaro cucks are literally defending this
>>54011067
Wow what a fucking Manjaro user, can't even think
>>54011075
Absolutely kill yourself
>>54011086
hehehe epic DDDD. le master trole
Fuck off
>>54011067
NOTICE HOW HE DOESN'T EVEN TRY TO JUSTIFY IT, KIDS. HE JUST POINTS AND CALLS NAME BECAUSE THAT'S ALL HE HAS LEFT.
>>54011093
Lemme get this straight, you're using manjaro's KDE theme in a manjaro KDE thread, and you expect us to not believe that you just piped the output of some command into a file, edited it, and then cat'd it back out again. You don't even show the command you used to output it, obvious fake. Nice try, cuck.
>>54011099
Why don't you just stop using Manjaro, you moron?
As a start, you can visit this internet zone: https://debian.org/
>>54011113
Anon he could have just used sed, you don't have to get all complicated.
I'll stick with Windows. I like watching movies that don't tear without needing to spend a month tweaking my xorg.conf.
>>54011113
>piped the output of some command into a file, edited it, and then cat'd it back out again. You don't even show the command you used to output it, obvious fake.
Are you that much of a delusional lump of shit you fucking cuckold?
>>54011121
I'm using Arch and I don't like debian
>>54011099
>hehehe epic DDDD. le master trole
what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>54011201
At least I can read
>>54011168
Faggot I don't pretend to understand the mind of the manjaro cuck. It's beyond comprehension.
>>54011199
>I'm using Arch [because I'm a teenage edgelord] and I don't like debian
Now that's a tautology if I've ever seen one
>>54011168
Notice how he tried to steer the conversation away so that he didn't have to include the command he used.
>>54011213
Shut the fuck up mint cuck
>>54011217
Wow nice meme, stay salty with your half assed freetard distro wannabe OS
>>54011217
Why are you so much of an autist that it makes you upset when someone uses a different distro than you?
>>54011230
Ever heard of inxi newcuck? I guess not.
>>54011231
AGAIN, NOTICE HOW HE DOESN'T EVEN TRY TO JUSTIFY HIS ACTIONS. HE JUST POINTS AND CALLS NAMES BECAUSE THAT'S ALL HE HAS LEFT.
>>54011251
What do you mean? What do I need to justify here buttblasted cuck?
>This thread
>>54011265
autists ruin everything
>>54011262
>has the attention span of a goldfish
>>54010993
>>54010945
>>54011280
None of them were even me you mouth breathing fucktard with dogshit for brains
>>54011271
It's a thread about manjaro, anon. This whole thread was autist bait from the beginning.
>>54011296
Doesn't matter, you're defending manjaro cucks, you stand with them. Answer for their crimes.
>>54011318
I really hate the fact the I share Arch community with literal worthles pieces of shit like you
>>54011244
You don't understand the Arch Philosophy(TM) followed faithfully by any en[le]ghtened ARCH LINUX user. Any distribution other than ARCH LINUX is BLOATED and (gasp) OBSOLETE! Thus, Debian sucks!
(Also, fuck freedom because muh pragmatism.)
>>54011339
>redirects the conversation again to avoid answering
See what I mean you will never get a straight answer out of them.
>>54011352
>Attacking the person instead of the argument
nigga u dum
>>54011352
I wasn't even in the question you mouthbreather, why should I answer. Get a doctor cause you got brain damage.
Also, see this, cum licking fuckwit >>54011048
>>54011395
He never made an argument you tard.
>>54011401
Yeah I saw that and it's actually p great but it still happened, odds are similar things are going to keep happening in the future. Trust was lost, it has to be earned back with more than words.
Almost makes me wan tto try it OP. But I enjoy Cinnamon and windows. Not sure what else KDE would have to offer. I wish Linux would get a netflix app that supports real HD unlike chrome
>>54011575
Just some tryhard newcuck with brain damage
See>>54011113
>>54011591
He's after all your (You)s and you guys are just enabling him.
>>54001038
Look at this shitty icons, different sizes and shit.
>let epic 'nobody uses manjaro and is therefore bad XD
You sure got me
>>54001927
lol muh +20mb ram
tip top kek
even the fucking cheapest piece of plastic shit laptop comes with 8gigs of ram.
>>54010991
>open sores
>>54011489
I was like you, but I switched after trying it out on a liveusb. Just try it, it's wonderful to use.
>>54014833
OP must've done that himself, they're all the same size on mine.
>>54011265
OP here, glad I went away before that happened. It was good while it lasted.
>>54015704
>>54014833
Look at >>54002331
It was a LiveUSB test. Last pic was after some minor settings adjustments.
>>54010993
You are cancer and should end youself right now.
http://allanmcrae.com/2015/02/improvements-on-manjaro-security-updates/
>manjaro
>you're doing it wrong
>niggayougay.jpg
>>54015821
I always notice that the shitposters who hate on Manjaro always have the same posting style and always cite the exact same "evidence". I'm convinced at this point that it's just one anon who fucked up guys kernel and blames Manjaro for it.
>>54019121
>guys
Fuck, this is why I usually don't mobilepost. Meant to type 'his'.
>>54002797
>:P
You have to be more subtle than that
>>54017128
There is The Arch Way. An admirable ambition.
But, to me, Arch is the way. Which is a different but complementary ambition for Arch to become the preeminent upstream distro which gives life to numerous other distros, changing the course of Linux.
We all have much to benefit from Arch.
>>54001743
You mean why kde is shit
>>54019309
I think you mean Fedora.
>>54010993
>2013/01
>>54001743
Easily fixable. OP is just using the wrong launcher widget.
>>54001927
Not a fair comparison as that's KDE 4.*, not Plasma 5.*. OP is using Plasma 5, not KDE 4.
>>54019121
Some anons are just bitter cunts that hate on everything. This is their only interaction with other humans, so don't go too hard on them anon.
>>54003287
WPS office is a pretty good ms office replacement, it works really fine with ms office documents and has a ribbon interface like the microsoft one
its literally a chinese clone
"KDE is so customizable!" and yet every screenshot looks like some grey/black cinnamon bullshit. If you want a 90s window manager experience, stick to xfce/mate. Cyberpunk ricing? Tiling WMs. Something that looks actually "modern"? OSX. KDE is an ugly monstrosity. Even vanilla android phone menus look better. (Manjaro is alright though).
openSUSE KDE was always somehow my unfillfuled love
I am on arch+i3 but still love KDE
>>54020932
Which is better, WPS or LibreOffice?
>>54020940
I know you are trolling, but the aesthetic problem with KDE isn't customization.
The problem is more with applications UI being cluttered, full of misaligned elements, and looking inhomogeneous and incoherent on a whole. No amount of theming and custom colors can solve this problem.
Just slap the Arc theme onto Xfce or Gnome, and they look tidy and modern.
>>54020940
>I dislike something therefore it is objectively bad
You sound like a fucking child.
>>54021161
Are you sure about that? Because I'm running KDE Plasma 5.6.1 and it feels pretty good. UI isn't cluttered or misaligned; in fact, I'd say that it's quite minimal. Everything also feels quite homogeneous.
What specifically caused you to say that?
>>54021161
this checks out, I use arc and numix on gnome and cinnamon to make them look less shitty
>>54001038
enjoy breaking it as soon as you update system
>>54021308
What do you mean? I've been running Manjaro KDE for a couple of months now without any problems.
? what are you talking about?
>>54001038
Kind of unrelated to the thread, but I switched from Mint to Manjaro KDE and the battery life on my laptop almost doubled. Is there a reasonable explanation for this?
>>54021254
Some examples with KDE 5.5 from the Kubuntu 16.04 beta 2 live iso, default settings. I could probably find similar glitches in every KDE program.
>inb4 >Kubuntu
Also I'm not trying to shit on KDE as they've done some impressive work recently, but they've still have a long way to go with UI tweaking.
Some of these glitches might or might not be fixed in 5.6.
General:
>default window border thickness makes some things look misaligned (like the v-align of the Dolphin status bar, or scrollbars on every single non-maximized window) when in fact they aren't
>thumbnails are sometimes above content (dolphin, konversation config in the screenshot), sometimes bellow (gwenview side-panel, terminal default mode)
Dolphin:
>Pretty good overall
>having the zoom bar and the free space gauge next to each other is somewhat confusing
Gwenview:
>why is the filepath area grey when it's white on Dolphin?
>side pane slightly misaligned
>strange looking border/padding above the side-panel thumbnails
>side-panel thumbnails and status bar have different font size, looks jarring
>zoom bar with icons and different size compared to Dolphin
Konversation:
>different padding for adjacent elements
>inhomogeneous padding in several config dialogs
Is kubuntu a good KDE implementation?
>>54022158
>autism.png
Linux noob here, I just recently installed ubuntu 15.10. Did I fuck up? Should I install a different distro? What do I do to make ubuntu look not so poopy?
>>54022866
I really like Manjaro, but you should just pick whatever you like. Try out several live ISOs and choose the one you like the best.
>>54022990
I don't really know enough about Linux at this point to know what I should be looking for when trying different distros. I think I'll just try to make ubuntu look like os x and pretend I'm using a macbook.
>>54022316
I have always disliked Kubuntu ever since they released a version that had a broken network manager plasmid back in the early KDE 4 days. Its probably better now but I would suggest just using OpenSUSE for KDE
>>54023035
>I don't what I should be looking for when trying different distros
You should be looking for something that you like. Full stop.
If you really need recommendations, though, I'd recommend trying out Mint, Fedora, Ubuntu, and Manjaro (KDE and Cinnamon).
Or if you hate yourself try out Gentoo.
>>54002797
>OS made by professionals
You're kind of short about open source technologies are you ?
