Who the FUCK are they trying to fool with this one
>>53997405
> $15 a month for a pdf reader
What.
>>53997451
I honestly could not be paid to use any version of Acrobat over Sumatra. Plenty of malware has been spread through PDFs containing exploits for vulnerabilities in Acrobat. The only software made by Adobe that should ever be used is Photoshop.
>>53997405
Literally 90% of non-technical office management.
>>53997451
If there are people out there to pay tons of money for Photoshop when GIMP can do the same for free, there are also people willing to pay for Acrobat Reader..
>>53997405
>itt neets who think adobe pro is a pdf reader
>>53997405
normies pay up very quickly
>>53997476
>it can also create pdf and do signing stuffs every application can do too but it has the clouds
WoW
>>53997476
"Hey I can make two pdf documents one!"
Totally worth it.
>>53997525
>I have never used Acrobat Pro
>>53997589
What bullshit are you doing to a pdf that you wouldn't just do in word or simple functions that any free application like sumatra has?
If they really want to keep me from just downloading sumatra so I can do something as basic as convert my word doc to pdf or highlight text how the fuck could it just not be these basic functions available.
>>53997451
25 regular monthly if you don't go yearly
>>53997589
>The freeware Acrobat Reader, available for several desktop and mobile platforms, can view, print and annotate PDF files.[19] The commercial proprietary Acrobat, available for Microsoft Windows and OS X only, can also create, edit, convert, digitally sign, encrypt, export and publish PDF files
Wow!
>>53997589
What the fuck does acrobat pro do then?
What the fuck does it NEED to do?
>>53997471
Anybody who thinks that GIMP can "do the same" as Photoshop has never had to create or edit images in a professional context with deadlines.
>>53997451
Whys that image reversed
>>53997716
No this is true but no way in fuck would you need to pay for a pdf editor
>>53997647
>What the fuck does acrobat pro do then?
A ton of shit that they've spent the last few years hiding deeper and deeper in pointless, intentionally limited menus, while reducing the UI to a monochromatic "tablet friendly" disaster.
I work at an architecture firm and finally convinced the office manager to switch us all to Bluebeam Revu. Holy shit it's wonderful. It's got toolbars. Beautiful, customizable toolbars. And a ton of other really helpful shit for arch plan markups.
Adobe has been systematically destroying Acrobat Pro for most of the last decade. No one should use their software at this point. It's a fucking disgrace.
>>53999311
Revu looks messy as fuck
>>53997405
Scamdobe still has overpriced subscriptions, for standalone applications, like photoshop
>>53997466
>The only software made by Adobe that should ever be used is Photoshop.
InDesign doesnt really have any alternatives. (QuarkXPress is shit). But then I guess thats a bit more specialised.
>>53997471
Outrageous things by companies like paying for a PDF reader, can be only outdone by outrageous things said by freetards.
GIMP is no where near PS, just like Libre Office is no way near MS Office or some obscure indie shit, is no where near a good AAA gaym.
>>53997532
Well, to be fair, you can snatch full res pictures, change pictures, edit some text, combine and pre-press pages plus, plus. It's a very valuable tool for me, at least. Especially when remaking brochures.
>>53997716
I'm not that faggot screaming gimp is a free photoshop, but
gimp can do a significant portion of stuff what photoshop can and many firms could do with gimp fine without the need for photoshop
now that the gimp gui can seem like shit compared to photoshops and you need to know where to find stuff / do it differenty, is a different thing
Just get a free as in beer copy of cs 5 or 6.
>>53997471
GIMP sucks dick
>>53997471
gimp is pretty bad for digital art last time i used it
>>53997405
Cuckware at its finest.
>>53999540
Please be joking.
Praising AAA games is like praising Holywood. It's mainly shit for the retarded teenage masses.
On the other hand, PS and Office are tools. It's true that expensive tools are often expensive because they are of greater quality. You are paying for efficiency, not taste.
Still, GIMP and LibreOffice can do what MOST people/companies need done and they do it for free, which makes them even more efficient if you don't need some obscure poweruser functionality.
And there is also a ton of free tools that are even better than paid tools, because they are developed by powerusers for powerusers, but that's another story.
>>53997643
it also supports a shitton of powerful plugins. Pit-stop alone transforms Acrobat into Illustrator, and there are a lot of other plugins, including ones that can completely replace page imposition software used in printing business.
As a prepress specialist I can say that Acrobat XI Pro is my most used program, it is also one of the best and powerful. Acrobat Pro DC on the other hand is unusual mess with shittiest interface imaginable. I have no idea who it is aimed for. It's usability is 0.
>>53999642
>Praising AAA games is like praising Holywood.
Yes and no. AAA is mainly a term for the budget, while it often means crazy high marketing budget, it also includes development budget; and today you simply can't make an overall GREAT game on a low budget unless you do slav magic. Besides, it's harder to get the money as vidya developer.
>which makes them even more efficient if you don't need some obscure poweruser functionality.
Good UI is not an obscure poweruser functionality. Specially with tools like PS where it takes a while to learn how to use them fully.
Neither is compatibility, which isn't a fault of LibreOffice per se but not relevant for the end user.
>And there is also a ton of free tools that are even better than paid tools
Depending on the task, yes. Mostly it's tools related to programming and the likes. Graphical, video, audio, and even writing related work (to name the most obvious mainstream examples) is simply better on established proprietary software.
>>53999718
>unless you do slav magic
I usually do it to get chicks and rakija. Game development always seemed like a hyped field for attracting young gamers willing to work for cheap.
Although I totally respect hobbyists, like that dwarf fortress guy who lives humbly from donations and makes his game because he wants to play it.
Also, I completely agree with your thoughts on the importance of UI. Free software desperately needs good UI designers, but it seems that kind of people isn't interested in free software because it doesn't have good UI. lol
>>54000021
>54000000
now we wait for
55000000
>>54000050
>>54000000
whoops
>>53999556
There are tons of things that GIMP can't do that are a complete show stopper. Not because it will not produce images of similar quality but because of workflows.
Smart objects, non destructive editing etc.
Also inter-operability is a big thing that will hamper GIMP's usefulness.
You need something innovative to get people out of Adobe's grip, and people do want to leave. It's other proprietary software that is taking the market now. GIMP will forever lag behind.
>>53997405
Acrobat Pro DC is their PDF editor, they just do a bad point highlighting that in the buy now section. Adobe Acrobat Reader DC is their PDF reader. Which is Free.
PDF editors are widely used by organizations, and while I agree adobe products are outrageously overpriced; please get your facts straight my man.
>>53999642
>Still, GIMP and LibreOffice can do what MOST people/companies need done and they do it for free, which makes them even more efficient if you don't need some obscure poweruser functionality.
Office can be vital for many medium to large sized organizations because of how it can integrate with Microsoft products. For example it is required to make custom templates in Microsoft Dynamics GP.
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/
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>>54000285
This, it is a great alternative once you get around the deployment headaches.
>>54000301
Are the headaches really worth 15 bucks every month?
>>54000325
When you have 500 people in your firm who need it, totally. That and standalone, non-subscription Acrobat is like $400-500 I believe.
>>54000325
This is the product comparable to Adobe Pro DC
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf-editor/
Yes, it is worth it because the cost for a perpetual license is 1/4th the price of Adobe Pro. A perpetual Adobe Pro license is $449 where as a FoxIT phantom one is $129
>>53997405
As everybody has already stated in this thread, it's their PDF *editor* that they're selling, not their reader.
I use Acrobat Pro DC nearly every day to modify PDFs for work (redaction of some financial documents, combining PDFs, modifying federal forms, etc etc)
But in NO IMAGINABLE WAY do I think it's worth the US $14.99/mth (AUD ~$19/mth) for what it's offering.
I've bought Directory Opus and Listary, my two most used apps, for $100 combined. So why the fuck would I pay $19/mth to edit some PDFs?
If it was a one-off of maybe AUD $50, then yeah, I'd buy it. But at that price, and being locked into a subscription model for software, no thanks.
>>53999540
>Libre Office is no way near MS Office
I agree to disagree there. Granted I've only used Write and Calc, but both of those were bloody close to Office. The only two reasons I haven't switched are 100% cross-compatibility and I'm too used to the Office interface.
LibreOffice has some minor annoyances versus Office (the way it handles cell selection whilst typing formulas in Calc, for example) but it can be fixed up and made to be closer to a Office clone, if you so choose. Can't say much about the customization of Excel/Word.
>>54000400
>100% cross-compatibility and I'm too used to the Office interface
These are the reasons why it can't become relevant for most businesses, even if the rest of the functionality was identical tbqh.
Do you remember how many people bitched over the UI switch from 2003 to 2007? The same people who finally adjusted to the ribbons, would commit suddoku if you sat them in front of Libre Office UI. Also can't comment on it directly since I don't use Calc or Exel for anything too complex but heard tons of complains about the lack of functionality from people who do.
> but it can be fixed up and made to be closer to a Office clone, if you so choose
That's true and given decent IT and people who are willing to adapt, it can serve as a decent alternative, depending on what you need. If we talk about personal use, a lot of the downsides are even smaller of course or even irrelevant. Specially the freedom to adjust it, gives it an edge over Office at some things, it's just less relevant for business.
The thing about Acrobat Pro is that it shouldn't be needed in most environments, sure it is useful if people need digital signatures but the idea of a PDF is a document that isn't editable, the pdf is supposed to be the finished article, and if you don't have the original word doc or whatever you are doing it wrong.
>>54000369
I just wanted to take notes on a fucking pdf for university or transform the document so it could be turned in, they don't need to pull my balls like that.
I use LibreOffice for school projects and I like it.
If you try to copy something from Calc to Writer it turns into a picture. I don't use it that often, but I can understand why some people prefer Office.
>>53997405
Your grandmother.
>>53997466
I am about to go look up Sumatra the software product.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78yigV0GYGQ
>Giving money to this c u c k Pajeet
>>54003553
Ahh yes. Adobe reader wanted something out of me to export .pdf to text.
I just got Sumatra and 'save as'ed the manual,
"The Linux Command Line" as a .txt file.
I am flagging 'I like' Sumatra just for this one such-a-thing.
