Which one do you prefer and why?
KDE is actually the biggest shitstain
>>53992441
I suppose I'm a fan of Gnome 3, but I've considered checking out KDE 5 since I hear it can be quite beautiful. I've always felt KDEs bar just felt cheap and hacky though, while Gnome 3 focused on beauty and consistency.
>>53992510
Yeah, plasma looks pretty good
>>53992441
Qt is the future because it is a superior framework.
I never used any DE in my linux life (moved from pre configured openbox to bspwm) but I'm thinking on trying Plasma, 5.6 I believe should be okay
>>53992441
KDE is the best Desktop environment
1. Written in Qt. Unity and Firefox is moving to Qt because they understood gtk is a pile of trash after all these years.
2. Has the absolute best and full featured file manager in *nix (Resizable icon view in file picker dialog, embedded terminal in file manager, built in addon service and the list goes on)
3. KWin is flexible. You can set different rules for each windows individually
4. KDE is complete. Has everything you need, has own torrent cilent, IDE, display manager, password encryption service, video editor, light games, terminal emulator, CAD tools, media player, browser, email manager, WINE manager, disk utility, download manager etc . No other DE (apart from inferior GNOME has that)
5. KDE is under active development, unlike GNOME. Which is why KDE has seen rapid changes and is more evolved.
6. While GNOME has been pioneering the Wayland development, KDE is one of the first DEs that support wayland. (Thanks GNOME/redhat for making systemd a dep for a display server)
7. Stability has been a known issue, but this is only because plasma 5 was a bleeding edge tech from 5.1 - 5.5 version. 5. 6 is as stable as 4 ever was. It is only logical to assume that plasma will only get more stable.
6. Consistent, professional and customizable UI. The default breeze dark theme is by far the most non-childish and professional theme any DE ever got
Meanwhile GNOME users cry over something as simple as a proper thumbnail view over decades but the ignorant indian devs wont listen.
>inb4 it's a gtk issue
1. Qt's file picker is even more uglier. (Check lxQt). KDE overrides it
2. gtk is becoming more GNOME oriented.
KDE feels a lot like Windows,bloated with the UI haphazardly thrown together.A beautiful clusterfuck though.
>>53992441
Personally I find GNOME unusable with it's "minimalism", it used to be my favorite DE before version 3.
KDE on the other hand let's me do whatever I want to do, and actually looks nice since they started with Plasma.
I'm using gnome 3.20 right now but i'm not gonna lie plasma 5.6 is looking really good, i might switch soon.
im still running kde. i know gnome is supposed to be better, but old habits u know?
>>53992441
xfce
they're both garbage.
>>53993089
>Firefox is moving to Qt because they understood gtk is a pile of trash after all these years.
for reals? sauce?
Question:
Why are there so many gnome spin-offs like unity and that elementary crap and the mate thing? But no KDE spin-offs as far as I'm aware?
>>53992441
gnome 3.20 is damn good
>>53992441
>>53991993
>>53993089
>>53992625
>shilling this hard for KDE
>>53992441
I'm using XFCE due to ancient hardware but KDE looks beautiful. Gnome ain't bad too just not my thing.
>>53994655
KDE is fsf approved
>>53994758
So is your mom. What's your point?
>>53994839
haha so epic xD I laughed more than I should have :DDD
>What's your point
That your OS source is more closed than your moms legs xDDD
>>53994869
I use Windows 10 so given that my mom did have sex with my dad in order for me to conceived, it does
seem accurate.
>>53994929
>He thinks it's his dad
>>53992441
kde plasma looks great
I'm about a billion times more productive in gnome
If I could get gnome that looks just a bit more like plasma, that would be great, or if I could make plasma work exactly like gnome, that would be great.
I can't switch over to kde though because I just end up missing these few features from gnome.
>>53994957
oh and also kde crashed and lagged all the time on my (relatively new) laptop
>Typical winkid vs linfag meme battle
>>53992441
GNOME. Because it's less squary.
>>53992510
This is basically me
>>53992441
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KDE is the best.
Krunner is the application that takes it home.
You got application launching based on .desktop files so you actually can use it to find applications.
You got a calculator that is really good.
You can search for files.
Run bash commands. Etc.
It learns over time, so the results are sorted after what you want.
It doesn't rely on external servers to do any of this.
>>53992441
Gnome becuase KDE is ugly.
Gnome looks good, just werks, and gets out of the way.
KDE is inconsistent, unpolished, buggy and bloated. It feels like the KDE devs are constantly biting off more than they can chew and choking.
>>53992441
I choose you, Unity (so it's kinda Gnome, right?)!
>>53999866
Aha, and why? It's simple and beautiful.
KDE because it doesn't attempt to be a shitty Windows 10 / Mac OS X poo fusion
>>53992441
They're both shit. But at least gnome doesn't force a uniform environment for every one of its packages.
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Gnome 3 has good themes and extensibility, KDE does not. KDE looks like ass and has no themes that look good.
However, the GTK file picker sucks dicks, the Gnome devs are incompetent dumbasses and they break themes every fucking release.
KDE. GNOME is a joke in comparison, and that's evident to whoever used KDE for more than a week.
The amount of people that only care about looks ("hey, KDE 5 looks good finally!") is what worries me the most. Truly superior software judged down by its appearance. Which in KDE is completely themable and customizable anyway, far more than in GNOME's case.
>>53992441
Neither. Both are bloated and their communities are riddled with sjw.
>>53994127
Because only good software gets forked. :^)
>>53997689
The gnome calculator is pretty good aswell.
I'll have to test krunner one day I guess.
>>53992441
I use gnome 3.18 currently because of the awesome virtual desktop support and overview. I am amazed that gnome on wayland actually works pretty well already.
KDE, why is thread still up? Should've ended here >>53993089
>>53992441
kde.. cant customize anything on gnome
>>53992441
I used GNOME3 for two months, had problems a few times making me switch back to xfce. I wish the latter had native window switching through multiple monitors.
>>54000688
Also tried KDE for 4 days, didn't like it.
Gnome is pretty.
KDE is pretty.
I like both.
i3 beats both
>>54000365
>using the smiley with a carat nose
I'm prefering KDE now that Plasma 5.6 is out. It's looking way better and isn't crippled software with no options like GNOME.
I really liked KDE Plasma 5 but I went with Awesome that I plan on configuring to be great. In the end of the day a DE is for when you don't want to configure everything but that everything should be set up ready. That means you get a lot of mediocre programs. You can build a DE yourself, just takes more time but you will end up with the perfect blend of applications that YOU like most.
So at this moment I'm about to transfer to Arch from W7 because time to upgrade to 10 is limited and I need that for gaymes. I think I'm going to start off with KDE plasma and gradually build myself an awesome based system that replaces KDE because I don't need it to be windows-like.
>>54002720
Good luck anon
>>53994068
This. Or xmonad, i3, awesome
>>54002785
Or a job
>>54002830
Then you shouldn't be using linux at all.
>>53993089
>5. 6 is as stable as 4 ever was
I hope this is a joke
>>54002966
>Be an executive
>Running Linux
>Mfw KDE
>MFW people call me a faggot
>>54002980
It actually isn't. Try it out yourself.
>>54003010
>>It actually isn't. Try it out yourself.
I've just uninstalled OpenSUSE actually, because it was a broken piece of trash with KDE 5.6. Some of its problems are so trivial to come by, it's like the devs don't even use their own DE. They're probably all macfags just like GNOME devs.
>>54003044
Runing KDE 5.6 with the Zen kernel on Arch.
The login manager still sucks. Everything else is smooth as fuck
>>54003076
You probably also have a horizontal taskbar
GNOME with the tweak utility to make it usable and not tablet shit. Or GNOME with the Cinnamon overlay.
>>54003088
>Vertical taskbar
Might as well use Unity
>>53992441
Gnome
I just do
>>54003102
Unity's crapness is that it doesn't have a vertical taskbar. It has a vertical dock with a horizontal taskbar, saving you no vertical space.
I like gnome. I've tried KDE a few times since 3.5 and it's just shit. I preferred it over gnome 2 back then, though. I'm running fedora with gnome now.
>>54003102
Unity with dock on bottom is pretty nice actually. Coming in 16.04. I still prefer gnome, though.
>>53992441
Begrudgingly gnome.
Gnome 3 is good with the tweak tool and extensions but it bugs me that I have to hunt them down and figure out how to make gnome3 into a usable desktop.
I gave it a few days of trying default gnome I just couldn't figure out how they are expecting you to operate a desktop like that. It felt like an even worse attempt at foisting a tablet interface onto a PC than windows 8.
>>54003010
>be an executive
>assistant sends me an outlook appointment
>can't accept because mutt doesn't have exchange integration
>subordinate sends me an excel spreadsheet
>can't open because of compatibility problems
>spreadsheet fucked up
>business partner sends me .docx and asks to review his comments
>comments don't show up
>Super + Shift + Q on my riced i3 with anime wallpaper
>my dzen2 config is perfect
>>>executive
Yeah sure.
>>54003226
This is what I don't understand: GNOME fucked up their UI a couple of years before Microsoft did - and the Windows developers didn't see, or ignored, the fragmentation that GNOME caused.
>>54003226
What extensions do you recommend?
I'm pretty used to gnome already, but it does annoy me that i have to press activities when adding a new torrent instead of it poppping up automatically like it should. Transmission is a popular application, they shouldn't make it unresponsive when minimized.
konsole/dolphin > gnome-terminal/nautilus-nemo
k* > g*
>I don't write the news, I just report it.
>>54003266
>be an executive
>assistant sends me an outlook appointment
>Fire up WINE
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>be an executive
>subordinate sends me an excel spreadsheet
>It's compatible with LibreOffice
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>business partner sends me .docx and asks to review his comments
>not faxing the file
>File is not PDF
>Cut business deal
>Profit more
>>
What's your excuse?
What's with the constant threads on this topic all of the sudden?
Anyway, GNOME after looking through gnome-tweak-tool and flipping through the first few pages of extension.gnome.org. If I'm not doing that, then KDE.
>>54003411
>He literally needs a compatible browser to enable basic functionality in his DE
>He still cannot reposition the top panel
>>54003431
1) False. Does make it more convenient, though.
2) Also false. There is very little of gnome-shell that can't be modified with extensions.
>>54003492
I'd like to see a single screenshot that shows the top panel is repositioned into a vertical panel
>>54003360
Excel is not compatible with libre past some very basic entries.
Good luck getting macros and data models to seemlessly cross between the two. Maybe you don't really need it for whatever work you do, but I can't use LibreOffice as a finance major.
>>54003588
WINE
>>54003535
I've no interest in doing that leg work for you, but I see no reason why that wouldn't be possible. Of course, it's not trivially achievable if no one has already written an extension to that effect (no surprises there, I can't see the use for it that's not already covered by other options), but that's besides the point. The point being that GNOME can, contrary to popular belief, be customised to a very large extent.
You might want to relax over this, Anon. GNOME isn't going to eat your dog.
>>54003152
>Unity with dock on bottom
>wasting even more vertical space in an age when you can't even get a decent 16:10 monitor
>>54003614
Would it be laggy or resource hungry? I've never tried it. Getting a thinkpad x220 soon, could it run excel through WINE fine?
>>54003668
This is not possible, same with cinnamon. take it from someone who used both
>>54003718
Office 2010 runs fine. You do have to enable font smoothing for WINE though
>>54003737
What? You can definitely move the cinnamon panel
>>54003737
>This is not possible, same with cinnamon. take it from someone who used both
My apologies, Anon, but I'm sure you can appreciate that one person on the Internet failing to do something doesn't feel very conclusive. Nothing personal.
GNOME 3. Greatest DE ever created.
>>53992647
The linux kernel is contributed to by SJWS.
Same with win and mac.
Your argument is invalid.
>>54003783
Vertical cinnamon panel scrot, qucik
>>54003360
Two Laptops. One with OBSD for coding and one with Windows for 'work'. I'm expecting great things from bash for windows
Plasma 5 if I'm using a DE.
I'm still on KDE 4.
What's a good distro to throw on a thumb drive to try Plasma 5?
>>54004086
Arch. Seriously. Use Architect if you're lazy, literally no different than setting it up manually.
>>54004086
Manjaro
>>54003836
Don't have cinnamon right now, I'm using KDE. But I'm just sayin'
