Is there ANY reason to buy an AMD CPU in >current year?
Any reason, literally anything.
>>53986086
To against a monopoly and support duopoly
>>53986086
You're suicidal and want to make your death look like an accident.
>>53986086
you want to live up to the "fool and his money" stereotype
until end of year maybe, their new shit sounds promising
>>53986086
You don't wanna feed a monopoly?
If you're the worlds worst supervillian who's only strategy for world dominance is donating house fire computers and you become a serial arsonist.
>>53986086
Dirt-cheap budget gaming rig. Will barely be able to handle 720p, but cheaper than buying intel+nvidia.
If you have an AM3+ motherboard and want a comparatively cheap upgrade.
>>53986086
Assuming this isn't bait, the apu's can be pretty decent low cost components, and the fx series does great in things like photo and video editing. The multiple cores really help it, without having to spring for the cost of an i7.
If you are only gaming though, the answer is no.
Welcome to /g/ where they all claim to not play videogames and actually use their computers for "important things" but will pile on you if you don't buy the more expensive intel cpu because you're losing those precious FPS.
>>53986216
>and video editing.
Is this true?
I got an old i3 sandybridge and considering to get a haswell i5/i7 for Sony vegas and after effect.
>>53986086
What is:
>dx12
>zen(this year)
>half the price at the cost of 2-3 extra bucks on electricity
>no hardware backdoor
>not jewish
>>53986096
This.
Also it is widely known that Intel buys reviews, makes software designed to hinder performance on AMD, pays software makers to use in their software. Fakes benchmark scores and pays off PC manufacturers and retailers to not use the competition.
Don't fall for the propaganda, a 8350 can compete with any i5 on the market, and win most of the times.
>>53986248
AMD excels in business and computation. Intel destroys gaming.
Pick your poison
>>53986312
The 8350 is on par with a 3570k stock.
No point payong for an 8350 when you can get a new i5 for 50 bucks more and with more featured motherboards.
Also ddr4.
>>53986351
This is the first time I heard about this.
Wasn't AMD lose against intel in cinebench.
>>53986086
The 8370 the together with a 970 chipset mobo is actually a good deal. And the cpu can do some OC.
It's a cheap way to get a Octacore. And it is on our with a 6600k in dx12.
The cpu sucks ass when it comes to video editing and dingle threaded perf
>>53986255
I agree with all of those except the jewish thing. There is nothing wrong with being jewish
>>53986312
My 6600k will beat your 8350 in all but one benchmark, by a hair. I have run into a fair number of you guys who believed your chip was better than it really was.
>>53986312
No one is forcing anyone to use an Intel compiler. You have other choices.
>>53986473
Too bad those other choices are shit compared to the Intel one.
>>53986453
Enjoy your bending, NSA backdoor and freeze bug.
>>53986312
>"don't believe propaganda"
>doesn't show any proof
> /g/- Video Games
AMD's unlocked CPUs can be extremely well priced for their core count and workstation performance compared to intel
Because Intel practices foul play. If we as customers don't boycott them, we can't expect anybody else to do anything about it and we can't look surprised when they achieve a monopoly and the next generation of CPUs is actually slower than the current one.
>b-but that would never happen anon
Not only it would, it actually already did. You might be too new to remember the Pentium 4. Yes, it was actually slower than the Pentium 3.
Fuck Intel.
>>53986503
Bending was one clickbait site with the largest cooler available(and subsequently redesigned), tightened down by a power drill. Freeze has already been patched. Backdoors are in everything you touch including every bit of networking hardware you use to access the internet. You have no idea If AMD has backdoors in their microcode either.
>>53986360
Yeah, and a 6600k costs about $75 more. What's your point? It's about price to performance ratio.
>>53986441
>There is nothing wrong with being jewish
>>53986552
Allegedly the next gen of Intel chips is gonna be slower than the current gen because muh power savings.
>>53986612
Bullshit. The Pentium 4 was amazingly power hungry, much more than the Pentium 3.
>>53986598
The shills that claim that an 83xx whatever is as good or better than any i5. There was just one a few posts ago.
>>53986372
the 8350 loses to skylake i5's in multitasking stuff like sony vegas now. i3 face rape 8350's even in games that can use more than 4 cores.
haswell i5vs 8350 is pretty neck to neck to each other. 8350 at best will match or slightly exceed a haswell like 4690k or 4790k but virtually falls on its face flat vs skylake.
there is truly absolute zero reasons to buy amd anymore outside of intel being jews.
>>53986634
It'd be good for the market if they pulled another Pentium 4, with AMD pulling another Athlon 64. Maybe that would balance things out a bit.
>>53986589
>2 shekels have been deposited in to your account
>>53986612
I've seen discussions on this. I reaaalllyy hope they only meant for Xeon chips, because servers, power consumption actually matters. Especially data centers or huge corporate servers.
Your i5 at home consuming 25 less watts during games will save you all of $3 a year.
>>53986661
I'm glad I have enough shekels that a $50 difference in price is not enough to force me to use an inferior solution.
>>53986453
>My 6600k will beat your 8350 in all but one benchmark
When your 6600k costs twice as much. Is on a process half the size, and 4 years newer. It is kind of expected.
The FX processors have never been strong in single threaded tasks, their performance is in multi threading and multitasking. You pay $160 for an 8350, and it will perform almost to a level of i7 processors that cost 3 times that of the 8350.
Given an infinite budget, everyone would chose the most expensive thing, because it's just that tiny bit better to justify the price, but once you start to restrict what you can, or are able to spend on what is ultimately a hobby or passtime but still demand certain tasks of it, is when you start to look at AMD processors and say to yourself "It's pretty damn neat actually".
Scenario:
>You want to make youtube videos
>You want to play PC games
>You might also want to one day stream if you build a following that is more than just spambots.
>You only have $600 to spend on a PC
Realistically, there are 2 options for a processor and still leaving room in that budget for a decent GPU.
A higher end i3 on a supported socket, which you might be able to one day upgrade to an i5 or i7 if you find you have the money again.
Or. An FX8350.
Or a wildcard, an older i5 on a dead socket.
The Intel path, you get the option to upgrade, should you have the money or the urge, but the i3 lacks the threads that would make something like encoding videos a meaningless task.
With the 8350, you have the threads necessary to where you can encode videos quickly, and still have the room left over to where you can continue to game and record with little impact to performance.
Honestly. To argue "x is better than y" you have to restrict to a budget and be able to look at both products and their advantages.
The i3 brutalises the 8350 in single threaded performance. But doesn't hold a candle to light that is the 8350 when it comes to multiple threads.
>>53986255
>dx12
>not vulkan
>being cucked by Microsoft this hard
>>53986682
I dunno that have a 10core 5.1ghz beast that will soon be unleashed.
>>53986650
See
>>53986598
Comparing things in different price brackets isn't really fair. Hurr my gtx 980ti wrecks your r9 390.
>>53986689
tl;dr:
amd is for poors
hoping their new zen shit is the dawn of a new athlon64 age though
>>53986689
Take any 8xxx series. Aida 64 benchmark it. My 4 core will beat an 8 core AMD. I've done it and posted results before, but then the AMD guys disappear.
My issue is the claims that AMD 8 core is better than 4 core Intel because muh multithreaded applications. I kinda believed it also until I ran the benchmarks muh self. 6600k is $240 right now. Maybe if you can't afford a small price increase, you need a better job, or should wait another week or two to buy your equipment.
No reason to buy a 4 year old amd platform right now whatsoever.
>>53986490
How is that Intel's fault?
>>53986752
That's twice the price, fucko. AMD midrange vs Intel midrange is what the comparison is here.
970 vs 390 is a more apt comparison.
>>53986783
Not necessarily for "poor" people. But for those who don't want to spend a ridiculous amount of money.
Having money is no reason just to throw it away.
Without this simple concept, we can all simply say;
>HAHAH FUCKING POOORFAG, DOESN'T EVEN HAVE 4 XEON E5-2693-V3'S AND 5000 TITAN BLACKS IN SLI, WHAT A FUCKING POORFAG HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
And then we end up with 90% of the threads on /g/.
Value for money is not an idea reserved for people with little money. Lacking this idea is actually how people with money end up spending all of it.
>>53986603
>implying that there is
>>53986490
If you want your code optimized for Intel CPUs , you use an Intel compiler. Intel has no mandate to heavily optimize their code for different architectures. And the other choices are numerous and definitely not shit.
>>53986752
different price brackets? you can get a i3 for the price of a 8350 and a compelling i5 is generally $20 - $50 more tops.
we're not talking about a 390 vs 980 ti. we're talking about a 380x vs a 390 level of price difference at most.
zen is post to help amd out of this slump but right now amd is absolute garbage in the cpu arena in both performance and price - performance ratio.
>>53986830
It's not just poor vs wealthy. It's usually a @$60 difference in price. $60 is a lot for poors.
>>53986441
Thanks for the input, Shlomo.
>>53986086
If you buy any decent latest-gen console, it comes with an AMD CPU in it. I don't know what you're babbling on about.
>>53986857
The day will come again when you and all your hook nosed brethren are finally, once and for all, put where you belong.
That is, Six feet under.
>buy a shitty cpu so maybe possibly someday AMD may or may not make good hardware again
Yeah nah, monopolies are shit but throwing your money down a wishing well is as stupid as brand loyalty.
Buy what's best for your needs.
>>53986802
>No reason to buy a 4 year old amd platform right now whatsoever.
I agree but not for the reason of performance. But because Zen is close enough to where you can tell someone to wait, save some money, and get a killer rig at the end of the year.
4 core vs 8 core is a more intricate argument that a single benchmark can lead it to be. While I understand this sounds like some serious backpeddling, it's not.
With a Quad Core system, you can pound away all day no problem at number crunching benchmarks to prove a point, and a point will indeed by proven by that.
But, not all multithreaded software can make use of unlimited numbers of threads. Games, more often than not now use 4 threads. The odd occurrence, you will see up to 8 supported. Throw on top another program that makes use of multiple threads like OBS or X-Split, and you're running out of threads.
Where I am going with this is simple enough. Multitasking.
The i5-6600 will trounce the 8350 in games, and maybe even in number crunching benchmarks, but introduce more software to the equation, and the strong cores of that i5 start getting overwhelmed, meanwhile the 8350 has cores to spare for more tasks yet.
This is not even some obscure thing that I'm throwing out here. People do stream and put things on youtube on a tight budget, these are the things they have to take into consideration when building a PC capable of meeting their needs.
>moving the goalposts!
Not entirely. I did touch upon the youtube and twitch scenes in (>>53986689)
I will not, and have not denied that Intel products do surpass AMD in single threaded tasks, even multi threaded, but at that point, you're not comparing within the same price bracket, and the argument have too many variables to be valid.
>>53986934
Oy vey!
>>53986890
Set yourself a fixed budget of $600 for a system and see what you can do.
In the end, it will be a choice of 8350, vs i5. That $60 going towards a more powerful GPU will make a world of difference to framerates then the difference in performance of the CPUs.
>>53986934
Im not even jewish. They are just a race same as blacks or whites or asians
>>53986991
What? I thought it was a religion, not a race? Do they have different color or something?
>>53986086
not until zen.
i really want to buy amd to force intel to start competing again.
but currently amd hardware is just blown away by everything else.
the only place where amd has a leg up is dx12 and vulkan. and then only marginally.
>>53986086
Highly parallel tasks that make use of integer math.
Anything single threaded or uses FPU, Intel will have the drop on.
AMD's lower end such as the FM2 socket is lucrative for poorfag builds.
AMD's very low end such as the AM1 socket or the embedded Kabini (A4-5000) is lucrative for low-power servers, i.e. seedbox or NAS.
>>53986988
I wouldn't be happy for long with a $600 solution. It might be good enough just like eating rice and beans everyday might be good enough.
>>53986991
>I'm not even jewish
"The Jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.” "
Sure you aren't, goldberg.
>>53987013
Ashkenazi
>>53986255
>>no hardware backdoor
I thought that amd also has hardware backdoors?
>>53987048
>I wouldn't be happy for long with a $600 solution
You'd be surprised.
Genuinely, go to pcparkpicker, and see what you can do with $600.
I promise there'll atleast be a 280/7970 in there, and those things keep on kicking.
>>53987053
Okay i may have a tiny fraction of jewish but thats not the point
I don't game and I don't work at Pixar so I needn't render 24/7, as such I use a VIA.
It plays HD video, it browses the web, it does absolutely everything except game.
Tell me why I need a more powerful and VASTLY more expensive CPU if this one suits me fine.
Come on, show me the mental acrobatics you perform to validate your expensive gaming rigs but claim you don't waste your time gaming.
>>53987013
Yeah they are a race, they were easily picked out from nazi germany by there noses having a '6' shape on the nostrils
>>53986086
HP Pavillion 500-311.
AMD A10 7800 APU.
1T hd 8G ram.
$299
Includes keyboard and mouse.
>>53987120
>but gayming and streaming and photoshop and making techno music and...
>>53987120
Pixar uses thousands of opterons in their render farms. This was in 2012 tho, things may have changed.
>>53987222
There's literally no reason to buy an Intel server CPU.
Opteron is infinitely better, and there are great RISC options out there.
I just got a Gigabyte ARM server board (pic related). Works like a charm, running directory servers on it.
>>53987272
>only 1 CPU socket
Trash it.
I bought amd because I've got hots for their ceo
>>53987272
Lol 98% of the industry disagrees with you.
>>53987070
it has.
every series after the phenom 2 has hardware backdoors.
>>53987300
She's a lesbian
>>53987326
And I'm a girl
>>53987272
>I'm a special snowflake hipster faggot
How'd I do lads?
>>53987373
Then you two scissor sisters need to get together
>>53987304
but not directly to freedomland
>>53987272
How much was all that? Thought about a cheep pfsense box.
>>53987499
B.bb.but muh hardware encoding
>>53987399
8350 is good but you shouldve gotten a r9 380 unless the 960 was 40$ cheaper, and even then it will be gimped once pascal launches
My 8350 is garbage, cant game on it for shit. Gonna get one of the new intel cpus and probably an nvidia gpu to along with it.
>>53987667
>Buying maxwell
>this time of year.
>>53987488
I got it in the rackmountable barebone for like $900 before tax. Only extra cost was ECC RAM and hard drives since it already comes with 2 SFP+ cages.
>>53987302
>>53987384
Intel IDF out in full force today.
>>53987667
Literally this, I bought a FX8350 because /g/ told me so, it was awful for gaming, wen to microcenter found a cheap as fuck bundle for a i5 4440 with aN Asus Z87 board, got that one and now almost 6 months later I'm gonna upgrade to a 4690K with a good cooler to OC it because the i5 4440 is not enough anymore.
Fuck you /g/.
>>53986441
You want those (You)'s, huh?
>>53987868
Also the stock cooler that came with the FX8350 wasn't even good enough to cool it at 4.2Ghz which is stock boost clocks, and it sounds like a fucking jet engine.
>>53987898
Finally someone understood that i was b8ing
And to answer you question, yes
>>53987302
100% of the industry agrees that CISC is obsolete and it's just a matter of time 'till it dies.
Stay mad.
>>53987930
Well, you got some.
>>53986351
>>53986372
No that anon is actually downright lying to you. He is just an AMDumbfuck. In a professional work environment you wont see a single AMD processor. I know from experience, I design fiber optic gyroscopes and everyone in the 3d modeling department, rendering, and IT hate AMD processors with what they do. The only reason to buy an AMD processor is if you want decent performance but can't afford inte.
>>53987868
What games are you playing that a 4440 can't handle? What resolution? What graphics card?
>>53987272
>Workstation board
>Using ARM
End yourself
>>53986351
>AMD excels in business and computation
Are you fucking retarded or just pretending to be
>>53986312
Fuck off Logan
>>53986096
>>53986158
>>53986351
>>53986312
>>53986503
>>53986552
>>53986612
>>53986689
>>53986698
The unpaid interns at AMD are at it again
>>53988184
t. jew
I'm building a cheap i3-6100 build, because the 6100 is cheaper and absolutely blows it out of the water for gaming purposes
>>53988184
>Unpaid interns
>>53988184
Mfw my CPU is Intel
Mfw my GPU is nvidia
Mfw I'm still an AMD shill.
I'm not pro-amd I'm just anti-dx12 and anti-MS in general.
To be honest i was really excited to buy an 8 Core 5GHz 9590.
Until i saw it performed worse than a i7 K (not X), in both single core and multicore opperations.
Hope they get their shit together, there is no good in a market leaded by one brand. Intel hasn't made any big step since haswell.
>>53988318
Zen is our only hope
>>53988318
>Intel hasn't made any big step since haswell.
>Literally still using the same shitty bridge from 6 years ago
>The price never goes down in my shitty country so it makes make literally looks retarded if I ever upgrade to haswell or skylake
Monopoly is good they said.
>>53988476
You have zero understanding of what an actual monopoly is
Company being better than another=/=monopoly
You fucking idiot
>>53988574
>Intel
>better
Fanboy who doesn't know how they got their marketshare detected.
>>53988574
What is sarcasm?
To fight against monopoly. But actually there is no other logical reason. Just wait for the end of the year for DDR4 supported Zen, the only hope for AMD.
>>53988574
You missed the jokes by a galaxy.
Intel "monopoly" meme was came from AMD is dead meme.
>>53986312
Nah this is just your very high dosage of paranoia.
ANy AMD fags want to compare benchmarks?
>>53989435
A10 6700k +R7 240 here.
So probably not much to compare to.
Zen will rape the shit out of Intel. If they were not confident they wouldn't be releasing it. Keller must have came up with something amazing.
AMD has always been marked as the cheaper option with less power.
You always get what you pay for they are cheaper for reasons
>>53988114
>workstation
>on CISC
You first.
>>53989602
Cheaper yes
Less power not always
>>53986086
You're not a little kiddo who needs his hardware primarily for gaming. That's a reason.
>>53988627
Sorry I got an F in memeology.
>>53986086
I would use an AMD chip if I were to build a cheap web browsing pc for my elderly parents.
>>53986086
The 8350 is fine for your games and cheap. I've already got the AM3+ socket, so I'll upgrade my my 6350 after Zen comes out.
>>53986086
AMD APUs are great for building cheap HTPCs. The HW video decoding helps.
>>53989983
You dumb fuck.
>>53986255
>W10 shit so it doesn't matter, with vulkan maybe but is not a thing yet
>Who knows how good it will be, not out yet.
>2-3 bucks per day
>Implying
>>53991200
A-anon that's not a-a very nice thing to say.
>>53986086
Nice logo, nicer name, nicer color. :^)
Doesn't do business unethically like Intel.
More bang for the buck. Nice to overclock. Now go suck a dick.
>>53986086
no need to use heaters or similar while using the pc
>>53986086
I do 3D rendering of CAD models (V-Ray, Maxwell and stuff like that) and I'd love a FX-8370E. For rendering AMD CPUs completely BTFO Intel processors of the same price.
But they don't have mITX options for their FX CPUs, and extremely few mATX ones. I'm not retarded so I don't buy ATX, so I was forced to go with a Xeon E3 on my SFF rendering build.
>>53986312
>a 8350 can compete with any i5 on the market, and win most of the times.
I own a 8320 @ 4.6 ghz and used to have a 4690k @ 4.6ghz. The i5 outperformed it in most shit significantly. That isn't to say the 8320 was bad. The 8320 setup was more than $200 cheaper and ran almost everything fine.
Currently using Xeon E5-2670 v3 ES @ 3.1ghz in my main PC.
Literally none, unless you really need 99999999999999999999999 cores.
>>53988101
My employer ordered about 400 AMD A8-5500B powered machines in late 2014.
We have about 300 7 year old AMD machines that will be replaced by Intel ones this year.
Our servers run Intel but only because we get good deals on them (longer warranty, cheaper support etc).
1. Not supporting Jewish owned intel
2.not wanting back doors into your computer
3.cheaper and better for what u pay
Just got a 880k with a wraith cooler for $90, literally the next best thing Intel offers is twice that...
>>53986086
If you're building a Logical Increments Great or Very Good tier PC. 6350 and 8350 ballin in the budget department.
Also its Destitute teir has an AMD APU.
>>53992342
>Im not retarded so I dont buy ATX
Nice meme desu senpai
>>53993352
>lying about AMD not having backdoors
Lel
>>53993626
Prove it
>>53993670
Prove they don't.
>>53993680
maxim semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit
"the necessity of proof always lies with the person who lays charges."
>>53993670
AMD PSP you fucking retard
Even the Qubes OS chick that did the paper on Intel warned about it
x86 is entirely fucking compromised
You'd be a retard to think otherwise
>>53993711
In this case, the charges are
>AMD has no backdoors
Have to say, I bought an 8350 shortly after release, the Fry's near me had a great deal on the CPU + motherboard that made it cheaper than just buying the 8350, basically anywhere at the time.
I still don't see myself upgrading for a few years, I generally get the framerates I'm looking for in games, and the occasional video rendering happens at a good pace.
Streaming to twitch doesn't impact my performance in games in the slightest, even when I set outrageous video compression and quality.
>>53993746
Only in select APUs. They're selling it as a feature.
>>53993765
Their CPUs don't.
>>53993832
Again, prove it. Prove their CPUs have no backdoors.
>>53993765
>he doesn't understand the burden of proof.
>>53986086
They're fine for budget builds.
>>53993848
https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/42067-amd-shoots-down-nsa-backdoor-claims/
>>53993852
>obfuscated hardware and software
>people claiming a giant company like Intel got paid off to install backdoors
>but AMD somehow wasn't
>when Intel implements something it's a backdoor, but the same thing for AMD is a feature
Fucking hypocrites
Everything after Phenom II is compromised
Everything after P4 is compromised
Anything with uefi is compromised by default regardless of their shit
>>53986603
>>53993934
AMD has something called integrity. Sorry if it's foreign to you.
>>53993931
Is this post a fucking joke?
>>53993960
AMD isn't a single person and they're a business. A business that's currently stuck between a rock and a hard place and needs every bit of influence and cash they can get. Fanatics like you are fucking cancer
>>53993960
>treating a company like it's your best bud
Wew lad
>>53986086
Right now? No.
Current year? Maybe Zen depending on if it actually comes out in 2016.
>>53993992
>AMD isn't a single person and they're a business.
True
>A business that's currently stuck between a rock and a hard place and needs every bit of influence and cash they can get.
True
> Fanatics like you are fucking cancer
False. Just being objective. No need for conjecture.
>>53994004
Ethics and Compliance
Approach
AMD is committed to achieving the highest standards of ethics and integrity in all aspects of our
business. We implement processes to ensure that our practices are consistent with our policies. We
believe the integrity of an organization begins with every employee’s commitment to our core values
and their responsibility to act in concert with those values.
>>53994527
Th-Thanks Su.
