Who /dropout/ here?
Currently working on my drone startup, gonna be the next Steve Jobs. Lmaoing @ studycucks, their $100k debt, a life of wagecuckery. Don't be a goy, go to coding bootcamp.
>>53972071
The dropping out part wasn't smart in itself. It's that they saw an opportunity to capitalize on an emerging market, and jumped at that opportunity. Drones are a gimmick; nobody will have a drone in every home 10 years from now.
>(At a conference in 2010, Ma revealed that he has never actually written a line of code nor made one sale to a customer. He acquired a computer for the first time at the age of 33.)
How does this guy become the founder of the biggest internet company in china with a 23bil net worth?
>>53972071
I will only be ~10k I'm debt (my mommy will take care of a good chunk once I'm done) and I will have two bachelor's; one on applied math the other in EE.
Coding boot camps are a fucking joke BTW
>>53972071
good luck finding a job with your non-existing skillset when the bubble pops
>>53972115
Because China was ripe for a computer revolution, and he was in the right place with the right skillset.
>>53972096
They won't own them but there will probably be drones flying around monitoring you in your home.
I live in LA and I've seen drones flying around my neighborhood real low with cameras mounted on all sides
>>53972096
Steve Jobs didn't dropout because of a opportunity he was just walking around for months after he dropped out going to typography classes and shit when he wasn't even enrolled in the school anymore. He started to work with computer later.
>>53972130
Jack ma got literally rejected from KFC before he founded Alibaba.
>>53972071
If you think dropping out of college/HS to pursue some stupid startup idea that's going to fail is anything other than a terrible idea, then there's a 99% chance that you're clinically retarded.
>>53972178
Jack ma cock fgt
*raises hand* dropped out and started as a poo2loo tier code monkey doing codeigniter wordpress jobs, I guess being eastern european added some credibility since clients offered me more money than to the poo2loos, now I have a small team of code baboons that I direct and take a percent for every project, and check this out, I don't even have high school second grade finished! (20 year old here) im trying to use the bubble and save as much as money so I don't find myself starving when the house of cards made of poo eventually collapses and every 3rd world country and hipster startup remains under it.
>tfw will get kicked out of uni because depression and can't stop procrastinating
just end my life lads
>>53972071
don't be a casual cuck in school and you get free top tier university education through scholarships.
>>53972096
There isn't an Nvidia card in every home but it's still a big market. Drones are here to stay.
>>53972127
>salty.jpg
I have a house where I can live off of the rent income until I come up with a new business idea
>>53972178
Fuck alibaba, I emailed a guy on there for some lipos and he randomly stopped replying forcing me to redesign for a different spec battery from another supplier
>>53972198
>salty.gif
A real man takes risks instead of staying safe in cuckoldry. And I already said if you want to go the wagecuck route you can at least do coding bootcamp. Literally every tech company I've spoken to don't care if you don't have a degree so long as your portfolio is good.
>>53972332
like you did?
>drone startup
lol enjoy not making any money, especially if you do anything open source. sorry kiddo, you cant compete against dji or even parrot. and shit with the red tape to go through in using them commercially you wont even make money renting out services
>>53972344
Wait you're designing your drones? Don't you need to be an engineer to be able to write off your designs?
>>53972115
Wozniak was a smart guy.
>He pays $20k a year to learn some language he could have learnt on Youtube in 5 mins
>He transfers to a "top school" to pay $40k to learn the same shit
>Pajeet takes your job anyway
>>53972575
This. Do something new
dropping out is like playing the lottery. someone will win. it won't be you.
drones and other hardware industries are especially hard to get into without bona fide credentials. what are you contributing? are you building drones? are you developing self-guiding stuff? if you're a dropout it doesn't sound like you have any expertise.
like i said, dropping out is like playing the lottery. for the 5 or 10 people that benefited, it was the right choice, but the thousands of college dropouts who thought they were steve jobs and now live with mom and dad, this was an obvious error in judgment. any retard could have told you this much.
>>53972575
seriously. coming into the industry *after* all the FAA legislation and shit sounds like someone saying "hey guys i'm starting a bitcoin startup"
>>53972071
>the next Steve Jobs
>drone startup
>>53972344
>A real man takes risks instead of staying safe in cuckoldry
>salty
real men take calculated risks, yolo fuckboi
>>53972770
>finding a booming niche too risky to get into
lel little coward
>>53972862
drones are post boom, slowpoke.
You're fucked if you think you're gonna be the next Jobs, so I hope you're being ironic.
Also dropout, but I have a job that means I don't need to go into debt to work on my own personal projects. You can't expect to succeed in this shit, not as an auteur, you need something to support yourself incase you fail. Not to fall back on for the rest of your life, but to pick yourself back up and keep fucking trying what you want to succeed at until you fucking make it.
>drone startup
about 10 years too late, lel
>>53972862
just because you heard about it very recently doesn't mean that it's booming. drone manufacturing has been commoditized. autonomous drone navigation is a solved problem as of recently (look for it in the next SIGGRAPH proceedings). moreover, legislation in the US is significantly curtailing the appeal of drones to children and childlike adults.
if you had said you were interested in drones 5 years ago, you might have had a chance. you'd still have to nail all the points of execution, but you *might* have been able to do it. you can't show up 5 years late and expect to have any chance.
>>53972071
>living in a country without free higher education
LOL
>>53972321
LISTEN TO JAMES BROWN
IM NOT JOKING. REALLY LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also watch the movie about him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ybfXC-2PQE
Jobs didn't even have a college career. He took a calligraphy class and maybe a handful of other bullshit. Gates was the one who had something to lose dropping out.
>>53972575
>>53972648
>>53972754
>>53972933
>tfw it took me 6 years to finish my 3 year BSc in CS
at least i've had a full time job as an engineer for the past 2 years, so i got that going for me... plus it's the best university in the country.
still have no other way to explain it other than procrastination.
>>53973142
Just say you are talking about drones that DO stuff rather than just being toys.
>>53972575
Amen. Decided to do drones for my Mechatronic senor design project, and holy shit it's a fad market waiting to bust.
>>53973167
Well duh, you think you are geniuses by informing me that the toy drone market is completely oversaturated?
>>53972071
>mfw passed in a a public university and the whole nation pays for my studies
>0 debits
>recognition because its the hardest university to get in and out
>>53973192
>Failed his senior design project
>"It's a fad market"
Fox and grapes
>>53973142
I don't get it, nothing you are doing is going to be new. That chart isn't even that impressive because you can already build something to achieve high payloads and high flighttime, it just costs tens of thousands of dollars.
And no, you aren't coming up with something no one has done before, or somehow breaking the price point to make it worthwhile.
Big props, low kv, big batteries. Not worth a startup.
>>53973258
how'd you figure out that he's failing is senior design project? did he delete a post i'm not seeing?
>One year after dropping out
>On £30k ($42k) a year
Am I doing good?
>>53973399
>That chart isn't even that impressive because you can already build something to achieve high payloads and high flighttime, it just costs tens of thousands of dollars.
Durr then obviously my business model is all about reducing that insane cost. My drone costs $2,000
>And no, you aren't coming up with something no one has done before, or somehow breaking the price point to make it worthwhile.
And you base this on what? Your desire to see anyone who didn't choose a path of wagecuckery fail so it looks like you made the right life choice? Grow up.
>>53973585
Yes. What are you doing?
>>53973652
Prove it. Show me what size and kv motors you are using. Batteries alone for high flight time and high payloads usually cost in the range of $800 each, and most people run them in parallel so that is about $2000 right there.
Prove it. I have been building multirotors for a while now, you can't fool me. At least put your money where your mouth is and say what you are developing in house, and 'it's a secret' is not a response.
>>53973689
Well I don't want to look like a troll so I will answer your question but give me a minute to think carefully about what I can tell you without harming my company
The fact that I have piqued your interest is proof that my product is interesting no?
>>53973809
No it isn't, because I don't believe you. The fact you can even say the size and kv shows me you are full of shit. You won't even say what you are trying to generate in house. And the only 2 things that it would be are motors which already exist, and batteries which you do not have the ability to improve.
If you can't even show a picture of one of the crafts you can just stop now. That chart is literally just a calculation which means there are a lot of things not taken into account.
>>53972071
>Currently working on my drone startup
lol great idea that's not a competitive market already or anything
>Lmaoing @ studycucks, their $100k debt
if you don't need VC then you must be just cashed up with your own money to spend on this business, either way your gamble is a lot riskier than learning a trade and getting job security internationally for life
>>53973856
Nigger give me time, If I didn't honestly want to answer you I'd have already fobbed you off.
>That chart is literally just a calculation which means there are a lot of things not taken into account.
I assumed 64% efficiency for the entire system (80% motor efficiency, 80% prop efficiency). I've ran various commercial models through the simulation and they all closely matched.
>>53972972
actually a sick burn
I wish my country offered free uni too
>>53973975
>give me time
it takes 10 seconds to name motor size and kv which you already know.
and the only simulation you should be using is ecalc, which i bet you didn't
>>53972096
But OP will still have a dick in his ass.
>>53972071
>coding buttcamp
BAAAHAHAHA have fun being nothing more than wev dev pleb u fucking idiot rofl LOOK MUM I CAN WRITE HTML
>>53974000
#feellebern
amirite my fellow bernouts?
xDDD
>>53973258
Still working on it man, due at the end of the summer. >>53973413
I'm still working on it, it's due at the end of the summer. Don't know where he got me failing it from, the business model isn't what I'm being graded on.
>>53974950
I was just bantering. Good luck!
>>53972071
>their $100k debt
Ameritards btfo.
>>53974814
>drone startup
holy shit this is some sort of personal craft which is trying to lift a person. this is even dumber than i originally expected. you have no idea what you are doing, do you? not only are you not taking nearly the right weights into account (measuring the FC in fucking kilos?), but this has been done already.
you dont even seem to know the fucking red tape involved in something like that, not to mention the dangers and liability.
glad i got a fucking response out because i was right, what a joke.
Studycucks got BTFO so bad ITT
>Say my market is BS and over saturated, nothing more of note to do
>I release product specs and pricing that's so revolutionary that these same neckbeards refuse to believe it possible
>Thus proving my point that the market was still wide open.
Students can't survive in the big boy world; the world of business, the world of gods such as Jobs,Gates and Zuckerberg.
>>53975120
omfg man u so dumb
no wait how can u be this dumb?
YOU CAN WEIGH ANYTHING IN KILOS
MAYBE, JUST FUCKING MAYBE I HAD EVERYTHING IN SI UNITS TO MAKE CALCULATIONS EASIER?
>>53975120
And that and the drone are two completely separate product lines. You saw the drone graph, it maxed out at 25 kg. Do humans weigh 25 kg anon?
>>53972096
I agree it's retarded to justify dropping off with singular examples, but drones are actually pretty substantial. They allow anyone to capture amazing aerial footage.
>>53975184
then why cant you even give motor size and kv of it?
>>53975122
eventually your product and all the competition is made by slaves in china, the only point of difference is your advertising, then china makes their own rip off product for less and your business dies.
college degree never goes away and earns you money for life in any country. you can get a line of credit because you have a stable job and not a risky startup. you don't need to put in any extra hours when not at work like a business owner does.
this is one of those pipe dreams young people have. when you grow up you realise a real education is credibility and it's worth it.
>>53975403
No when you grow up you get weighed down with wife kids and mortgage and start playing it safe
>>53975325
Why do you care so much? It's as if you want to copy my designs. Either my drone works or it doesn't. if it does you'll see it in the shops if it doesn't you won't and your life won't be affected in any way. As I said you declared it to be impossible so I clearly have something groundbreaking on my hands and can't risk intellectual theft.
>>53975122
I'm not sure if people like you are serious but in case you're not, you should read up on Poe's Law.
>>53975542
>copy designs
this is how i know you dont have anything. you dont design shit. there are plenty of quad through octo builds that can provide 30+ minutes and a camera payload. the difference is, you dont have anything magical that changes the price and physics of this.
you literally cannot even name one part of the motors, you have absolutely nothing to go off of and simply saying 'lol you think its impossible but its not!' is NOT a fucking response. provide some real evidence or stop trying to look smart
>>53972071
One problem, you're not Jobs. Every life is different.
>>53972071
>am eurobean
>almost have my PhD
>whole 10k of debt
oh no, how will I handle all this debt? Fuck.
and please OP, become the next Steve Jobs. Get cancer and die. There are countless of people who think they'll become the next Steve Jobs. You're no different.
>>53972071
-1/10
>>53975696
I don't need to provide jack shit to you. /g/ said my drone wouldn't stand out so I posted performance and now you are trying to goad me into revealing the secret by claiming it's fake. I don't care if you don't believe and I'm not about to compromise my business to please some fat sweaty neckbeard who I've never met.
You saw in the PAV document that calculations are actually being done so unless I created that document right now just to bait neckbeards It's a real project using real physics.
>>53976201
>I created that document right now just to bait neckbeards
Yep sounds about right
>>53975696
And finally just because the market has a price doesn't mean that that is the lowest possible price. Look at SpaceX, who would have thought that you could slash space rocket costs by an order of magnitude? So your claim that my pricing is BS based on the fact that other companies sell their drones for $20,000 is flawed. Maybe they were just ripping you off.
>this is what unemployed neckbeards actually think
See when you make Jobs your hero you actually achieve things in life. Marketing genius, I aim to follow in his footsteps.
>>53973142
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Professional-20L-XYX-804-6-rotor_60459023242.html
Already done dude, can't compete with Chink demand for having strange chemicals sprayed on their food.
>>53976597
Lol you guys will try anything to try to knock me down
My drone is still better, That drone is $6,000 has a no-load flight time of 22 minutes a fully loaded flight time of 13 minutes and a max payload of 27 kg. Mine costs $2,000 has a no-load flight time of 47 minutes, a fully loaded flight time of 11 minutes and a max payload of 25 kg.
>>53976597
I also believe that they may be telling porkies so let me run their system through my simulation and see what I get
>>53972238
Living a dream.
Dropped out when I was 13, delivering pizzas in a trans am, made $3200 cash last month.
Like I give a fuck.
>>53976805
Have you accounted for in-ground effect and lift ducting around the tank in your simulation? This is a specific application aircraft meant to fly perhaps 2x as high as it is wide.
>it's an anon lies on the internet episode
>>53977029
Yeah calculations are for a free propeller.
The results are in my simulation says that it's no load flight time should be 21.4 minutes which is in near perfect agreement with what they claim (22 minutes) but the 40 kg takeoff weight the simulation says it will only last 6.5 minutes meaning they overestimated that.
>>53977029
I'm assuming the measured around 7 minutes so rounded it up to make it a better looking double figure. (who is going to bitch about the difference between 7 and 10 minutes?)
>>53972071
> working on my drone startup, gonna be the next Steve Jobs
If you're actually working then you're doing it wrong, my friend.
To be the next Steve Jobs, you need to be a sleazy sociopath and find yourself an actual genius engineer like Steve Wozniak, then ruthlessly take advantage of him and repeatedly fuck him over the money. If everything goes well, few decades later people will think it's *you* who's the genius, while that other dude will forever remain a middle-class aspie and run a fucking consulting company.
You may also choose the way of William Gates III. All you need is a father (William Gates II) who shoots golf with the right richfags and a mother who sits in the right board of directors. They'll help you sell your product (or, better yet: a *promise* of a *copy* of a product) for $BIGNUM to $BIGCORP and all should go well from there. Few decades later people will say you were a talented programmer owing your success to your hard work.
>in startup web dev company
>one of the only ones there
>currently starting a contract worth a few million
>could make 100k a year if it goes well
>dominating the entire thing
>I have to focus on fucking exams for this joke of a course I'm in
I can't do it. I want to drop out now.
>>53977298
Drop out. That opportunity you have is once in a lifetime, you can go back to college whenever.
>>53977246
>muh woz
Every applefag knows and loves Woz. Woz made millions off of Apple.
>>53972071
dead Jobs, no jobs