Convince me not to buy an iMac when the new ones roll out
I'm feeling so tempted right now
>>53958047
A fool and their money are soon parted
Do whatever you want OP
Your money, embarassingly sad for you to be so out of control
>>53958047
Why do you want to buy one exactly? What are you planning to do with it? Do you have a job?
b-b-b-but op how are you going to play video games on it??
Shit teir laptop level hardware for a premium desktop price.
But you'll buy it anyways like a good cuck consumer.
>>53958198
Only the GPU is laptop tier, rest is desktop hardware and probably better than the majority of /g/ has.
>>53958047
Why are all pictures of iMacs in rooms with hardwood floors?
>>53958266
A subtle way of telling poorfags to fuck off.
I'd just build your own PC with a retina screen and hackintosh it (or you know, just leave it as Linux/Windows which are the better OS for a desktop). OS X really shines on laptops, and the only reason to buy an iMac is if you're already heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem.
>>53958198
>>53958245
>>53958134
How much computing power do people actually use today really?
>>53958142
Almost everything on steam is compatible
>>53958322
>almost everything on steam is compatible
Less than a quarter of the library available on my PC is available on my Mac.
>>53958047
If I was getting Apple shit I'd at least get a macbook. Why buy a desktop if you can't even upgrade it?
>>53958339
You can install Botnet 10 on it...
Though buying a Mac when caring about games is not the best thinking.
>>53958339
>gamer children imply their opinions matter in an adult thread
>>53958281
So the computer, like the floor, is a status symbol? How ridiculous. A computer only needs to work.
Having your floor be a status symbol is also ridiculous.
>>53958339
Only you care about chink games
>>53958427
>poorfag detected
>>53958427
You're literally being triggered by a fucking floor mate
>>53958427
I wouldn't use the word status symbol so easy. A Bugatti is one or a private plane, shit like that. Hardwood floors (at least like in the pic) and iMacs are just more aesthetically pleasing.
>A computer only needs to work.
If your budget is 50 bucks.
Outside of superficial benefits (customers will take you more serious when they see a pretty office with iMacs) and skipping messing with cables, working with aesthetically pleasing hardware helps to make you more productive.
Would you rather work in front of a huge CRT monitor in a room full with piss bottles or a room like in OPs picture?
>>53958543
I work on a sales floor so the question is really irrelevant, but if I could I'd put Ubuntu on a nice pricey desktop in a KDE-guy from Mr. Robot-tier office
>>53958577
>sales floor
raged wage cuck can't afford what he's selling so he has to project
>>53958047
Specs released yet? Or do you just want to suck Apple dick?
>>53958608
Why are you so insecure?
As a macbook owner, I would want my desktop to play games, so I would just build a cheap desktop. I know that MacBooks are great laptops, worth the extra few bucks, but I can't see the point of an iMac.
Well I burnt a big pile of money earlier which is just the equivalent of buying any apple device.
Saves time and is a lot more productive than owning a mac so I'd go with the burning a pile of money.
new imacs already came out. they're considered "neutral" at the moment in the mac buying guide. it be awhile until new ones come out.
with that said, i posted this from my late 2013 27in imac.
great shitposting and general work machines. garbage gaming machines due to apples love of high resolution and under powered gpu's for them.
>>53958543
>working with aesthetically pleasing hardware makes you more productive.
Oh boy.
You're a fucking adult, make your own choices
>>53958047
Go for it, you won't find better a screen for that price.
Speaking as an old solaris users, I dont blame you for wanting one. Ill pick one up on the next refresh. Right now MacOS is the best Unix.
>>53958047
I'm just waiting till the next refresh before picking up a 27inch iMac for myself. Currently enjoying my Retina MacBook Pro and won't look back!
>>53958047
>mac
>desktop
no
-sent from my imac
>>53958080
>A fool and their money
SONNY!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tOnbeNAxdU
>>53958309
>Apple ecosystem
I hate this term because its a false assumption. OS X is a genuine joy to use. You don't have to be a cock loving faggot to enjoy OS X, just to enjoy iOS.
>>53962480
>OS X is a genuine joy to use
Spotted the cock loving faggot.
>>53958245
>laptop CPU
>desktop tier
Unless you are talking about the 5k imac which gets throttled to oblivion.
>>53958464
>fallout
>far cry
>the witcher
>just cause
>mirror's edge
>battlefield
Most major franchises aren't available without wineskin, though why you would play games on Mac I have no clue.
>>53958047
I don't play any intensive games so its a great work machine for me. Can definitely recommend it!
>>53962480
Try to use an Android phone or a NTFS formatted HDD with your Mac then come back to me on that. OS X has every capability of supporting NTFS and Android phones over USB natively, yet they make it as hard as possible to try to force you into using an iPhone™ and their own backup software. I use a macbook pro myself, but god forbid you would want to use anything but an apple® product with it.
>>53958047
>buying a stationary laptop
God damn children and poorfags.
You can buy ir you want the screen.
Meanwhile, a older mac pro will mop the floor with that AiO.
>>53963162
Nice argument you got there.
Also
>thinking that having $1000-$2000 to spare makes you rich
Kek
>>53958047
Well if you want everyone to know that you're a huge faggot then just write it on your fb along with a picture of you swallowing a BBC. No need to spend money for an overpriced piece of mediocre shit just to make this point.
>>53958058
>>53958080
>>53958124
>>53958198
>>53958994
>>53959056
>>53960471
>>53962508
>>53963129
>>53963138
>>53963447
>waahh, Unix was too hard for me to understand so I had to go back to the point 'n clicky interface to play muh gaymes.
>>53963490
>people are talking about the shitty hardware of imacs
>waah unix is 2hard for you
>implying OSX is complicated
How's that room-temp IQ going for you?
>>53963810
>it's not fast enough for mah gaymes!
How's being a disappointment to your parents for being an anime watching, video game playing, unmarried, forever alone, manchild?
>>53963847
Nice projection you got there, retard. Unlike autists like you, some people actually use their computer for things other than browsing such as video editing, 3d modeling, etc. Nice post-purchase rationalization, though.
>>53963889
>video editing
>3d modeling
You can do both on an imac retard, plus if you're not a neet hobbyist then your company should purchase that shit for you anyway. If you're self-employed then learn to do your taxes.
>>53963490
>suggesting to get a laptop instead of a desktop
>muh gaymes
are you literally retarded?
Recently switched from a higher end 2009 macbook (upgraded RAM) to a 600$ 2013 laptop with windows 10.
After 5 years of use my macbook was completely unable to do even basic tasks like browsing and word processing, while when I bought it, it had a above average performance. The OSX updates really drag down the entire system. It looks really good and it works well for the first few years, but you cant upgrade them like a desktop.
Also OSX isn't as superior over windows as it used to be. I find windows 10 to be more intuitive and fast (when using comparable hardware) than OSX.
I've used mac and windows for music production and video editing mostly.
Just buy a good desktop for doing actual work, and a second hand macbook pro when meeting people (assuming you're using it for business-related things.) Best of both worlds.
>>53958047
The only reason I need is the same reason which has been true for over a decade.
For the same money you can build a PC with much greater performance.
>>53958245
>probably better than the majority of /g/ has.
I doubt it. /g/ is made up of people with powerful gayming PCs crossing over from /v/, and poorfags with hoss used workstations that will still knock out an iMac.
>>53963916
Yeah because rendering on throttlig laptop parts os such a pleasant thing. You would have known that if you were someone who uses his computer for real work. Paying more for something worse just means that you are bad at managing your money.
>>53964495
This post screams "I am a hobbyist"
![HP-Z840-Workstation[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ZBmKlBS.jpg "HP-Z840-Workstation[1].png")
>>53958047
Buy an HP z840 and z27 monitor instead.
I mean, it's only money, right? And this is a far, far better machine. This is the -professionals- use for -real work-.
The question is: why do you need a mac? Do you specific programs that are only on OSX? Have you used OSX in the past?
>>53964563
What a nice argument m8. But you were saying that "osx is hard to use and anyone who doesn't like macshit should go to point and click stuff" as if osx is hard to use when people pointed out that imac hardware is shitty for desktop standards, I shouldn't be surprised after that.
The shit you spewed over doesn't change the fact that imacs with the exception of the 5k one that throttles are simply stationary laptops with desktop price tags.
You get a computer that has no airflow, that has heating issues, throttles when facing anything serious,
and has inferior hardware compared to what you could build yourself.
Aesthetic value is the only value it has. If you are all about aesthetic value, then i can't convince you to do anything as much as i can't convince a fedorafag to stop wearing a fedora because he thinks it looks classy, or a hipster from being a hipster.
You are wasting the money, not me.
Cons
- no screen height adjustment
- Terrible mouse
- apple tier pricing
- cannot upgrade
- cannot fix with simple component replacements
- SLOW, my old gaming PC is much faster for basic productivity task
>>53958281
>>53958266
Contrast with the bg of the picture. To make it look like it fits in expensive places... Sheep marketing... Baaaa
>>53958047
Not OP but is there a good free alternative to iMovie out there?
I think that a 5k Retina Display iMac is a good option for someone who likes OS X, wants a quad core processor, and wants to view 4k video. What is the refresh rate on that monitor?
>>53958047
It's your money.
>>53958047
Every apple thread:
Poor butthurt people call wealthier people homosexuals, and get very mad that someone can afford something nicer than them for no apparent reason but to tell them to save money.
Apparently to be straight you have to run windows and have an android phone.
Buying what you want and being able to afford to do so, make you a homo.
amiright?
>>53958047
>>>/fa/
>>53967637
>buhuu why does /g/ call macfags gay?
Choosing technology for looks instead for quality is not technology afterall; it's fashion. Men usually don't care about fashion, except they are homosexuals.
>>53967637
>>53964563
>gets told
>resorts to name-calling
Apple shills are adorable.
>>53958047
I have a macbook and am quite happy with it but can't imagine myself buying a desktop machine from apple. Might do a hackintosh setup when I buy a new desktop just so I can boot OS X if I feel like it but that's as far as I'd go
>>53958245
MSI IS building actual notebooks with desktop tier GPU and CPU
>still defending Mac
>People who never used OSX act high and mighty while groveling for the latest free Linux distro.
>worse, some people here use Windows and act superior.
Oh what a world.
>>53968513
>>worst, some people here use OSX
>>53968560
>posting the equivalent of a NYUH UH
enjoy your botnet, m$fag
>>53967986
>Men usually don't care about fashion, except they are homosexuals.
or people who lost their virginity
>>53968585
>implying OS X isn't the same botnet
You macfags srsly have no idea how computers work.
>convince me not to
I've never understood these threads. Might want to develop an individual personality you fucking cuck.
>>53968698
I wasn't aware that OSX collects my personal information and archives it on a server for Apple to use anyway it wants. Oh wait, that's just Windows and Microsoft.
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html
Apparently Windows fags can't read the news?
>>53968821
>I wasn't aware that OSX collects my personal information and archives it on a server for Apple to use anyway it wants.
Well now you are.
>>53958047
Do whatever you want, I don't care.
>>53968821
You know, when a company releases an OS with a backdoor that allows the company to do stuff to computers who run the OS, we call it BOTNET.
The only reason you didn't read about it on /g/ is because nobody cares about your special snowflake, broken homo-OS.
>mactoddlers unironically defend using a triple nsa/ms/apple botnet while shitting on the ms botnet
You can't make this shit up.
iKoolaid, not even once.
Because the only computers worth buying from them are macbook pros
Those things are weak. You pay more for a fucking screen for fucks sake.
>>53968895
Please show me a presently existing backdoor on OSX.
Here's the windows one
https://theintercept.com/2015/12/28/recently-bought-a-windows-computer-microsoft-probably-has-your-encryption-key/
>>53968980
to add
http://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-microsoft.en.html
>>53968980
Here's the 5 year old unpatched backdoor that's still on every shitbook in existence since Applel's coders are all incompetent retards.
>>53960241
Found the piss bottle lover.
>>53964326
Most of the gaymer "rigs" posted are sub par shit and a lot of the poorfags don't have workstations.
>>53968396
That costs over 2k, while having worse storage and much, much worse and smaller screen. Nobody says that you can't have better hardware than Apple used but it's irrelevant given the performance is more than enough for any task you're going to do with it.
>>53968895
Now prove that OSX got any backdoors. Oh right, you can't.
>>53969041
>below 10.10
Yosemite was released in 2000 fucking 14.
>>53969041
>affecting all macs
No information anywhere on this rootpipe affecting mac's using El Capitan, the latest OS. I checked. That's just shitty journalism.
Hilariously, Microsoft included their own backdoors, so fat chance those will ever be patched.
>>53969286
Hating Apple has become pretty much akin to hating the right wing of politics so it wouldn't surprise me much if it was actually shitty journalism.
>>53969041
>run old unsupported versions of OS
>security holes exist
How's Ubuntu 8.14 working out for you, faggot?
>>53969161
So you mean the last good OSX, Mavericks, is not secure?
I can't. OS X with a 5k screen? Worth it.
It's also funny seeing people complain about "wasting money" when they're buying $2000 gaming machines and then using them to make threads about how they never play vidya.
>>53969337
The security hole still exists...
>>53969383
Source?
>>53969383
There's security holes in old Windows OSs, too, enough in 8 for Germany to classify it as a dangerous OS.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/german-government-refutes-windows-backdoor-claims/
>>53969439
No shit. Microsoft gives the source code to intelligence services. Even if Windows isn't explicitly backdoored for intelligence services, they are still able to analyze the source code and find backdoors.
>>53969383
Your own fucking article says anything older than 10.10 - so yes, it still exists, in the same way that you can still download Ubuntu 8.
>>53969383
If you're using a 3 year old, unsupported OS then you're fucking yourself over.
>>53969538
You're reading comprehension is horrible. Reread the article. They tried to fix the original rootpipe exploit after 10.10. They botched the fix and all Macs remain vulnerable.
>>53969600
Your* hurr durr
>>53969599
>October 2014 was 3 years ago
ok..
>>53969600
Fixed as of 10.10.3, according to the guy who figured the exploit out.
https://truesecdev.wordpress.com/2015/07/01/exploiting-rootpipe-again/
Previous advice about not keeping your shit updated stands.
>>53969693
> The fix Apple made for Rootpipe in 10.10.3 was insufficient. Any user in the system (including the guest account) could still exploit the same XPC service functionality to escalate privileges to root.
Not fixed.
>>53963129
im ok with having to install some external programs
to connect iphone to windows you'd have to install itunes too
>>53969747
Typo, meant 10.10.4.
Read the end of the link, nigger.
>>53969797
The only reason you have to use itunes on Windows is because Apple forces this "walled garden" bullshit on their customers.
>>53969848
Oh please. Normal people don't want to deal with manual file management for large media collections, and the inbuilt shit that comes with the OS is awful.
I've never had these problems people seem to always bitch about with iTunes. And this despite the fact that I abuse the fuck out of it.. the library lives on a NAS, is accessed by mutliple machines with different OSes, etc.
Lot of you people just have broken computers I think.
>>53963490
You have to be 18 or older to post in this board. Your reading comprehension is still not up to par. Return back to your 6th grade English class
>>53969877
>normal people don't want to deal with manual file management
>can't drag and drop files
>needs 3rd party software to extract my own music from my iPod
>>53958047
if you want one then just get one
stop being a pussy
also, this
>>53958058
>>53958047
You should get the micro$oft ergonomic keyboard to go along with it, apple keyboards are trash.
>>53969831
That deals with Yosemite, not El Capitan. 10.10 is Yosemite. El Capitan is 10.11
What the fuck are you even doing on /g/ if you can't follow basic version notation? Are you kidding?
>>53970379
(cont)
And to be fair, the guy who responded to you saying it was fixed at 10.10.13 was clueless, too.
The point is there's no root pipe in the current version of the OS. In other words, anyone using an up to date mac is not effected by this exploit and has not been since El Capitan's release on Sept 30, 2015.
Buy it faggot and enjoy your POS
>>53963973
Did you ever change the HDD? Those things tend to slow down and fail miserably after 5 years or so.
I've got a MacBook Pro from 2011, put an SSD in it and it runs El Capitan almost as fast as the new models.
I also know people with 2009 MacBook Pros (13" and 15"), which run decently to this day.
>>53970505
Not him, but I installed a Samsung 850 Pro with in my late-2011 15-inch MBP. The speed increase was ridiculous, like getting a brand-new machine. The only thing that bothers me is the resolution of the screen compared to later models (I have a 1440x900). Considering getting an external monitor for the home office but I may just an iMac instead and keep the MBP for portable work.
osx and the fact that you cant put a Geforce GTX 980 ti in it as an upgrade when the new imac comes out the week after this one is released.
>>53970646
It's funny how suddenly everybody disliking Apple does work requiring CUDA.
>>53969358
Do you love the skeuomorphic design or something? El Capitan is easily the best version yet.
![lg-4k-photoshop[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5EcD2h6.jpg "lg-4k-photoshop[1].jpg")
>>53958047
For the same money you can get a 31" 4k monitor and a powerful workstation PC.
http://www.beachcamera.com/shop/product/LG31MU97B/LG-31MU97-B-IPS-Digital-Cinema-4K-Monitor-179-31-4096x2160-UltraWide-4K-Display
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Z840-E5-2630v3-32GB-RAM-1TB-HDD-/272176798223?hash=item3f5f005a0f:g:iD4AAOSwAuNW7Gzt#viTabs_0
No GPU, so you can add in a GTX 980 Ti for about $600. You'd still have 600 left over to compete with the most expensive iMac config, so I'd recommend adding a 2nd CPU and a good PCI-E storage option. Once you've done that this machine will absolutely smoke the best iMac in benchmarks.
You could even hackintosh with this machine or run OSX in a VM (and still get excellent performance). As in pic related.
>>53970082
I do like the design of Mavericks better. The system font too.
>>53971211
Fuck, wrong quote. Meant this >>53971044
>>53971048
>4k
iMac is 5k though. So your solution is worse.
>>53970586
Exactly. I used the same SSD in mine and it massively improved responsiveness. The bottleneck in all old Macs is the slow-as-shit HDD.
1440 x 900 is certainly a bit low these days. My 2011 was a CTO with the anti-glare 1680 x 1050 display, still looks decent to this day.
That said, I recently upgraded to a 15" with Retina display and it's like jumping to a different era.
>>53958047
>Convince me not to eat shit from my hands when the new ones roll out
>>53971211
Fair enough. Mavericks is definitely handsome, but it's looking very long-in-the-tooth these days (my opinion).
Have you had a good look at El Capitan, though? I agree that Yosemite's system font (Helvetica Neue) is shit, but El Capitan's (San Francisco) is the most gorgeous system font I've ever seen.
>>53971398
I'm currently using El Capitan myself.
I don't have issues with performance but then again I'm using hackintosh, heard some people had issues with that on macbooks maybe
I agree Helvetica Neue is worse.
I guess I just wanted something closer to Mavericks but then again with this I don't have to scavenge for some mavericks installer from the app store I might never find because my shit ain't legit. And I guess security features of course. It's not ideal to try to look for an application and see that 10.11 users are kinda fucked because they need to disable SIP but I'm guessing having it enabled would still always be better.
>>53958047
Fuck off mactoddler.
Not your personal meme brand shopping guide.
>>53958047
Kill yourself.
>>53971524
boo
>>53971553
hoo
Just buy a macbook pro and a decent external monitor. Why would you buy such a huge monitor that youll have to replace when upgrading your system?
>>53971603
>wahhhhh y won /g/ b my personal shoppin guide
>y does /g/ hate us?!?!! cis scum!!! APPLE PRYDE 4 LYFE!!!!
>>53971666
Literally you're like a dog barking at a wall
I didn't even say a thing and you just went all mad like a little nigglet
If it only takes this to trigger you shit's sad
>>53958047
>>53971637
>buy
>macshit
>>53971735
Cant you find a pic like this for every American corporation now?
>>53958878
Apple dicksucker detected.
>>53971792
Actually, if you cant us a Unix OS then you shouldnt be on /g/. Go back to /v/ with your point n clicky gaming platform.
>>53971792
>every appel thread on /g/
>>53971470
My previous machine, 2011 MacBook Pro, handled El Capitan just fine. I think it sorted most of the performance issues that Yosemite brought along.
I love the modern Apple OS look, although it's definitely optimised more for Retina displays. It looks fantastic on my new MacBook Pro, whereas it didn't look too good on my old one with a standard display.
I don't run anything that has issues with SIP, but I can totally see why it would be a pain in the arse for some. It is possible to disable it via Terminal in the recovery partition, though.
>>53971832
>macshit
>unix
You don't belong on /g/, and neither does your toddleresque meme OS that doesn't contain a line of UNIX code.
>>53971866
The most misinformed post of the thread. Congrats.
>>53971832
>homOSeX
>UNIX
Pick one.
>>53971886
The most retarded mactard on /g/. Congrats.
>>53971866
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_UNIX_Specification#OS_X
>>53971902
So 4.4 BSD isnt UNIX? What retard made that meme.
>>53971918
>mactoddler can't tell the difference between UNIX and being certified as compatible with UNIX standards
At least you tried.
>>53971923
The people who made BSD.
>>53971958
Well, it was more in response to "doesn't contain a line of UNIX code".
>>53971958
>mfw OSX is POSIX compliant but Linux isn't
OSX is more Unix than Linux fuckface
>>53971980
It doesn't, and never will unless AT&T, IBM, Oracle etc make UNIX open source.
>>53971975
So I guess SUNOS wasn't Unix?
You're making a fool of yourself. stop.
That's fucking retarded.
![dell-ultrasharp-27-UP2715K-ces-2015-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Pfq7MW4.jpg "dell-ultrasharp-27-UP2715K-ces-2015-1[1].jpg")
>>53971264
It's 31", and I'd rather have the extra size at the resolution. 27" is still to small to really appreciate 4k, much less 5k.
If you really, really want 5k there is a Dell 5k monitor you could swap for the LG.
http://www.arsenalpc.com/Dell-Brand-Remarketed-UP2715K-REFA-715663029243/Product/1278472?dfid=2
>refurbished
I know this will get shit on so I will say: What part of "like NEW shows no signs of use!" is hard to understand?
The only thing missing from the Dell is support for DCI-P3 color, which the LG monitor has. And if you're in the position of needing this wide of a color gamut you shouldn't be buying an iMac to start with.
OK, I admit to being pretty ignorant on the intricacies of operating systems, but to the people saying OS X isn't UNIX at all... you're saying this is a load of bullshit?
https://www.apple.com/media/us/osx/2012/docs/OSX_for_UNIX_Users_TB_July2011.pdf
>>53971923
You must be 18 years of age or older to post on 4chan.
>>53972064
>https://www.apple.com
>>53972065
You're talking to a Unix Admin that had to Administer SunOS servers. SunOS ran on all sun hardware and was BSD. Fuck off kid,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunOS
>>53972097
>BSD
>UNIX
Even the creator of the OS you used would call you a retard. Fuck off kid. >>53971975
>>53972088
Perhaps I shouldn't ask 5-year-olds about this sort of thing.
I'm with you OP. After several years of only having laptops I've gotten an itch for a desktop machine again. (currently have a 15" rMBP 2015)
I'd like to sell my rMBP and replace it with a desktop + smaller laptop. OS X is really nice though, and I'm not willing to give it up on my desktop, which leaves me in a bit of dilemma. My choices are:
1) Buy the next revision of 27" iMac
2) Hope there's a single-GPU variant of the trashcan after its next update, and buy one of those
3) Build a hackintosh tower
4) Build a LInux/BSD box and get OS X running as a guest OS in something like Xen with hardware passthrough
For the last two options I'm considering building a cheap but monstrous Xeon E5-2670 V1 build but I might just go with the usual current gen i5/i7.
The real question I guess is how much time I want to spend twiddling around with the OS.
>>53972137
So I guess Sun never made a Unix workstation before Solaris. The things I learn when talking to the know-nothings on 4chan.
>>53972097
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunOS
Thanks for clarifying you're over 18 and still an illiterate retard than can't understand plain English.
>>53972187
>So I guess Sun never made a Unix workstation before Solaris.
Glad you finally learned to read.
>>53972196
Yeah. solaris was sys5
sunos was BSD
What's you're fucking point other than not know thing the difference between BSD and sys5?
Again, another retard telling me that Sun didn't make Unix workstations before the mid 90's .
>>53972228
>gets told and BTFO
>still denying plain fact from his own source, Sun, and BSD that all prove he's a retard
>still claims BSD is UNIX
lmao
Take your meds grandpa.
>>53972268
He can't read wikipedia
Developer Sun Microsystems
OS family Unix
>>53972268
In 1987, AT&T Corporation and Sun announced that they were collaborating on a project to merge the most popular Unix flavors on the market at that time: BSD (including many of the features then unique to SunOS), System V, and Xenix.
This would become System V Release 4 (SVR4).[1]
God I hate teaching winbabby 20 somethings about Unix history.
>>53972327
>most popular Unix flavors on the market at that time: BSD
Stopped reading. You can't meme me twice.
>>53972327
>being 30+/40+
>on a mongloian cave drawing website
>thinks calling someone 20 something is an insult
There's no need to be upset gramps.
>>53971044
El Capitan is dogshit.
>>53972358
Read the article on Unix Wars. Climb out of the basement and tell mommy you learned something today.
>>53958047
>when the new ones roll out
might be waiting a while there OP
>>53964563
kek
>>53972385
Be careful, you might turn into something like me.
>>53958047
If you want an all in one, you can get one a lot cheaper. If you want OSX, get a hackintosh for less money.
Honestly, if you really want one just get one and don't make b8 threads on /g/
>>53972397
Don't worry I'm working on it. Just ate 2x jumbo wumbo burritos at Taco Bell and half a tub of prunes.
>>53972385
did she just fall asleep on her arms
>>53972385
don't bully grandpa anon
>>53972144
These days I can't see how anyone can build a serious non-gaming desktop PC that isn't dual CPU.
>>53972457
Even if you're a gamer the slowdown caused by dual CPUs isn't noticeable unless you're the type that plays the newest games and puts all settings on full tilt. I play games, but I'm usually a year or two behind and am perfectly happy with mid-high settings.
>>53972511
I run two x5650s and most new games don't even push them with everything turned up to max. Support for multiple cores is great these days. The GPU is still the bottleneck.
>>53971048
5K IMac is actually pretty cheap when you realize that there is very few All-in-One, or even Monitor has 5k.You probably don't remember when Dell lower their prices because Apple undercut Dell.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2844712/dell-drops-5k-monitor-price-after-apple-launches-new-imac.html
Imacs are still a niche product ,but AIO PCs are perfect for work, and a good family design.
>>53963490
>>53958058
First post best post
>>53958245
still way the fuck over expensive compared to the same hardware in a custom built desktop.
Shit, you can even put OSX on one if that's what you really want
>>53972832
I'm usually not one to cry "SHILL!!" but your blatant disregard of the post you replied to as well as the discussion in the rest of the thread, as well as how I've seen this same post reworded a dozen times in the past month leads me to it
SHILL!!
There are a dozen ways to build better setups than an iMac that are cheaper AND provide greater performance. If you read /g/ and haven't figured that out in the last few weeks you're either a shill or you're hopeless.
>>53972832
Outside of front facing machines in lobbies and shit there's 0 reason for all-in-ones. Just put the tower behind your monitor or under the desk you fucking faggot, and as for front facing machines in lobbies you don't need anything near that powerful or expensive.
>>53973848
Depends. If you want the Apple keyboard and the glorious trackpad, a similar desktop would be barely cheaper. That's when we talk about 4K version.
5K iMac is damn cheap and comparable screens start at 1.6k or so.
>>53973943
How the cheaper 5K iMac alternatives with better performance. Don't forget a 5K screen of similar quality.
>>53973966
There is not always room for that, and skipping cables makes cleaning way faster. Not that cleaning is a very common concept on /g/ unless it's related to software.
>>53974008
>take off side panel
>blast it out with an aircan every couple of months
There, all clean. If you do even the most basic cable management they won't be in the way.
>>53974008
>There is not always room for that
If you live in a place where you really need that tiny bit of extra room your job sucks ass and you should work somewhere else where you have space to breathe.
>>53973979
>How the cheaper 5K iMac alternatives with better performance. Don't forget a 5K screen of similar quality.
It's literally right here in the thread, if you can't be bothered to read that's your problem.
>>53958047
>prove god doesn't exist
>>>/b/
>>53974079
If you work in a place where the IT guy hands you a hackintosh to do your work, you should reconsider your decision.
>>53973979
>comparable screens start at 1.6k or so.
Dell U2715K is about $1000
>>53974116
I'd much rather not be using OSX at all in IT.
Still; using a hackintosh would be a much better budgetary choice than a fucking iMac
>>53973943
yeah well some people are going to pay for an off the shelf product and don't want the computer to look like shit. an iMac is perfect for them.
>>53973979
5k is a meme resolution. 4k is still incredibly good and actually adheres to a standard. There are no films being produced in 5k. I'm not going to pay an extra $500 for a 5k monitor over a 4k. And if I had the spare dough to spend I could buy an entire extra 1440p monitor for that price.
>>53974059
>blast it out with an aircan every couple of months
As expected, /g/ isn't into cleaning.
>>53974079
>extra room =/= extra room for desktop
Depending on table, you might need to get longer power/thunderbold cables and all that jazz.
>>53974088
Some nigga posted example with 4K screen, didn't see any 5K ones.
>>53974152
Hackintosh would add more work in terms of set up and maintenance. So it's only cheaper if your time is worthless.
>>53974154
>There are no films being produced in 5k.
I know it sounds crazy but people buying 5K screens don't do it to watch movies. Try thinking for a second.
>>53974145
Link or fuck off
>>53974145
$2,799 from dell.com, $1,579.00 from Jewmazon.
![hp_k7p07ut_aba_z840_rackable_minitower_k7p06ut_1095810[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GuTiXdR.jpg "hp_k7p07ut_aba_z840_rackable_minitower_k7p06ut_1095810[1].jpg")
>>53974153
>implying the Z series is not sexy af
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYJ7JMFSdJc
"Some people" are dumb fucks that can't put together the lego blocks of a PC. Are you one of them?
>>53974222
http://www.paradigit.nl/dell-ultrasharp-up2715k-27-zwart-zilver-5k-ultra-hd-matt/20506087/details.aspx?channel_code=110&ad_id=53758575507&s2m_product_id=20506087&utm_source=PLA&utm_medium=sea&gclid=CKfV4-uFhcwCFcE_GwodEY8GFg
Before you sperg out: These are euro's, but we pay 21% sales tax so prices in the USA are generally similar in dollars.
>>53974154
5k allows for HiDPI 2560x1440 @ 2X. 4k only allows for 1920x1080 HiDPI @ 2X.
For a 27" display there's no way I'm going to settle for less than 2560x1440-class desktop real estate.
Windows and Linux support non-doubled scaling, but in my experience 2X works with the least trouble so that's what I'll stick to.
>>53974206
>didn't see any 5K ones.
Then read again, I'm not going to link the post for someone who doesn't even have the knowledge to command+f.
>>53974279
>.nl
How disappointing.
>>53974297
>1,311.99
>refurbished
Top kek
>>53971766
just the fagging ones
>>53974327
Why?
Like I said: should be cheaper in places where you don't get raped in the ass by taxes.
>>53974355
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=up275k3
Cheaper to just buy an iMac than the monitor.
>macfags so obsessed with 5k
4k monitors are literally half the price. You're all insane. 5k is a ridiculous luxury resolution with minimal gains for massive increase in cost. You'd be a moron to get a 5k monitor right now. I think if you looked around you could literally get two 4k monitors for the price of the cheapest 5k monitor in the same size.
Also, as far as I can tell all the current 5k monitors out there have shitty performance. Get one of the best 4k monitors for same price and you'll have a much nicer image.
>>53974286
1440p is also a meme resolution you mong
>>53974355
Only applicable for Yuropoors, even the price on Dell site is cheaper for us. Murifats get cucked.
>>53974394
>don't buy Apple, BUY A SHITTY 4K SCREEN TO SAVE COUPLE BUCKS
>>53974388
>buying directly from Dell.
You only have yourself to blame.
>>53974415
At this point if you're not even going to address any points or seem to read the posts in the thread this banter is going to be over with. Present arguments or I'm done.
>>53974411
No it's not, it's the bare minimum of acceptability for anything upwards of 24". 1080p 27" is total garbage. If you're happy with that resolution you shouldn't be looking at anything bigger than 21.5"...
>>53974443
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Monitor-UP2715K-27-Inch-LED-Lit/dp/B00OKSFXZU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1460325589&sr=8-1&keywords=5k+monitor
>$1600 for a monitor that can't even function as a single screen
>>53974445
Your points are poorfaggotory. 5K offers you a much better PPI and allows you to work with 4K movies in 100% while still having space for UI elements.
>>53974467
>can't even function as a single screen
Wut?
> I can build a pc cheaper than a 5k iMac
>Oh, cool. show me.
>Turns out I lied! LOL! You don't need 5k. LOL!
What a retarded thread.
>>53974499
The display port on the monitor can't handle 5k over a single connection. You need to use two display port connections and the monitor is treated as multiple displays.
>>53974470
Nobody doing production work is going to have all their UI in a little bar across the bottom of the screen. They will have the video in a window with a shit-ton of other controls taking up the rest of the screen. Your point is extremely weak, and certainly not worth upwards of $600. And there are always dual monitor setups. Again, for the price of one 5k monitor you could have two 4k. A massive increase in work space (or a significant upgrade to your PC, such choices are not available when you go with the iMac).
>>53974548
It's called spending your money more wisely for more important shit instead of useless gimmicks that offer little benefit such as 5K over 4K.
>>53969367
>funny seeing people complain about "wasting money" when they're buying $2000 gaming machines and then using them to make threads about how they never play video
the truth, it burns
>>53974568
so? You're going to have a decent GPU anyway if you're spending this much money.
>>53974622
na, I'm pretty sure it's called sour grapes after getting caught in spreading disinfo.
>>53974548
Except someone did show a 5k monitor+computer that was cheaper than an iMac with better performance.
>>53974667
Not really. 2 4K monitors is way more screen space than a 5K for the same price.
>>53974602
The difference between 4K and 5K is a lot more than "a little strip across the top". Look at the pic. Rotate it and you have your typical NLE video editor layout.
>>53974602
>They will have the video in a window with a shit-ton of other controls taking up the rest of the screen.
That's like the point of 5K, not a little bar. It got 60% more pixels, nigga.
Two 4K monitors costs you more space on the table, aren't as comfy to work on and still has worse PPI. Besides, the cheap ass screens tend to have "okay-ish" quality, gotta spend more and you're going over the budget.
Besides, why do you act like $600 is something worth talking about when somebody does it at least semi professional?
>such choices are not available when you go with the iMac
Nor needed given the iMac already comes with powerful enough hardware and baller ass 5K screen.
If you're going to spend the money on an iMac for "real work" you ought to buy a Mac Pro anyway.
And if you're not doing work on one you're just a buyfag who wants a shiny toy to show off. So...guess you should buy an iMac then.
>>53969383
it's been patched. Apple releases security patches reasonably often. Most osx users use the latest patched version, i know that is not how windows works so it might be surprising for you. Windows is like android and there is a fractured user base of versions all over the place. Apple love saying how many people adopt the latest version and how quickly. It works out better for security for average users.
>>53974703
>implying "real work TM" always needs two CPUs and couple of work station GPUs
>>53974649
You realize how shitty tiled displays are, right?
>As much bezel as screen
Kek
>>53974691
You're confusing aspect ratio and pixel count. This is basic shit, come on.
4k PPI on a 27" screen is already overkill. You're not going to have any problems reading small text or anything like that.
>buy 4k monitor for cheap
>buy a desktop computer with exact same (if not better) specs than imac for less money
>get whatever comfy mouse & keyboard you like
>install hackintosh
I've saved you $500, OP
>>53974698
>laptop tier GPU driving a 5K display
>powerful enough hardware
Try again
>>53974775
>4k monitor
Missing the point.
>install hackintosh
Disgusting
>>53974747
Enlighten us.
>>53974794
Tell me the point, lovely anon
>>53974698
If $600 doesn't matter to you then you're not going to buy an iMac. You'll buy a Mac Pro or a Z840 and you'll spend a heck of a lot more than $4000.
>>53974794
I get that a 5k monitor is better, but I don't see how hackintosh is "disgusting".
>>53974775
>much worse screen
>ugly tower
>wasting time making Hackintosh work and no official support
>worth 500 bucks
>>53974784
Even integrated Intel gpus can drive it. Rest of the work is done by the CPU.
>>53974764
>4k PPI on a 27" screen is already overkill.
Considering that we have 4K phones, tablets, and laptops, no, it's really not.
>>53974832
Why would anybody do that if the iMac performance is enough for that?
>>53974898
Because it's way more performance per dollar.
>>53974866
>Ugly tower
You can't just tell me that that desktop trash can looks good.
>>53974865
I have been advocating for PC all through this thread and I will agree with macfag that Hackintoshes are disgusting. You get no support. Random updates will destroy your system. You can't have that when you're doing anything important.
It's either a real Mac or a Windows machine, and nothing in between.
>linux
go ahead, I need a good laugh
>>53974775
except the computer isn't inside the screen its a fucking shitbox on the floor
only fucking idiots compare AIO machines to desktops - they are different markets
AIOs are not for people who want to:
- upgrade the hardware
- play games in 4k
- hardcore video production or computation
this is a fucking family computer you mouth breathers holy shit
>>53974897
dumbest post you've made in this thread, anon. 4k phones and tablets are for retards. Even the laptops are pushing it (you had better be a photographer or you've wasted your money).
>>53974907
Only poorfags care about that shit.
If somebody wants a comfy all in one and the iMac performance is enough for their needs, there is no point in getting anything else.
iMac and iTrashcan got completely different users in mind.
>>53974919
>implying the trashcan isn't the best looking desktop ever made
The thermals seem meh but the design is fucking genius.
