>Windows 10 takes a screenshot of every video file or image you view.
>Windows 10 records snippets of microphone recordings across any application - be it skype or a game
>Windows 10 forces your lockscreen to show ads
>Windows 10 records your keystrokes
>Windows 10 logs webpages you visit
Pretty good, hey guys?
PS. I use windows 10 enterprise modified to fuck, so no telemetry and logging can be done on me by the faggots.
It's really dumb. All they have to do is add options to turn that stuff off. The people they are targeting will be too stupid to turn it off anyways. It would make everyone happy.
>Windows 10 takes a screenshot of every video file or image you view.
that one is probably my favorite. but it only works when you post that video where the guy uses the 'rsa decryptor' to reveal it.
>>53944609
It's true, a massive division was setup by microsoft of child porn "experts" to look through all the flagged images and videos on Windows 10 users.
>>53944593
There is an option to turn them off actually.
Well not the NSA-tier shit, but most of the telemetry.
I think it's a good OS but I think it's clear that the feds are paying M$ to spy on everyone, just like with google and facebook and apple.
>>53944689
I know it's >>reddit but it worked for me:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10
>>53944576
>Takes a screenshot
You mean thumbnails?
>Records microphone snippets
Fooooor? Could it be Cortana?
>Shows ads on lockscreen
What's that have to do with spying?
>Records your keystrokes
And does what with them? There's no context here. It being part of telemetry doesn't say anything about spying.
>Logs webpages you visit
Yes. All web browsers do that.
>>53944706
>>Takes a screenshot
>You mean thumbnails?
No takes screen shot of picture and video content that you open, and sents it to microsoft. Where data algorithms determine if its child porn or bomb making instructions, if it does determine it then it's sent to humans that check it. After they check it, they inform the feds of that person's country to arrest them. Simple?
>>Records microphone snippets
>Fooooor? Could it be Cortana?
For voice analysis, say they are hunting a terror suspect, all they need is a snippet of terrorists voice, which voice analysis can compare to his voice in a skype conversation. Which makes it easier for skype tracking of terrorist activities. Or even in game voice chat, which is all recorded now. Because terrorists are using game chats to conduct terrorism planning now.
>>Shows ads on lockscreen
>What's that have to do with spying?
Nothing, but it's intrusive.
>>Records your keystrokes
>And does what with them? There's no context here. It being part of telemetry doesn't say anything about spying.
To put into an algorithm for 2 things, 1 for law enforcement, say you are looking for child porn or how to make bombs. And 2, for advertising.
>>Logs webpages you visit
>Yes. All web browsers do that.
For the above reasons as well.
>>53944576
Someone is getting a few good porn recommendations depending on their fetish anon.
>>53944576
>>Windows 10 takes a screenshot of every video file or image you view.
Evidence of this? The only thing I've seen is a likely fake .webm floating around. If it were real, there'd be some hits on Google with a writeup and some news stories, right???
>>Windows 10 records snippets of microphone recordings across any application - be it skype or a game
I know it has a feature that listens for key phrases addressing Cortana. Does this go out to the cloud, or get recognized locally? And does it keep doing it if I turn off the feature?
>>Windows 10 forces your lockscreen to show ads
I haven't used the shitty little tablet I put Win10 on for testing in a while, but I have not seen any of this. I've seen games and shit advertised in my start menu, but right click remove got rid of them.
>>Windows 10 records your keystrokes
Is this still a thing? I know it was for the technical preview, but that was released for beta testing, not general use, and as such it had additional telemetry and logging enabled so they could trace bugs and crashes better.
>>Windows 10 logs webpages you visit
Do you mean SmartScreen filtering of web addresses? It's done this since Win7 or so, and it does in fact send URLs to Microsoft in the name of preventing you from going to malware sites accidentally, but you can turn it off.
Been using Windows 10 as my daily driver since the free upgrade started. Network activity is as low as it was before 7 got the telemetry updates. No ads to be seen anywhere, and big deal if Microsoft hears me calling my friends and randoms in destiny/the division/etc shotgun toting faggots or camping bitches? They've been hearing all of that since Halo 2
>thinking Microsoft is actually competent enough to log all of that completely silently
no
>>53945313
The fact were talking about it shows its obviously not been silent. The controversy has been around since before release.
>>53944576
>PS. I use windows 10 enterprise modified to fuck, so no telemetry and logging can be done on me by the faggots.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>OP hasn't inspected all the packets leaving his “modified to fuck” W10 enterprise install and heading to microsoft
Want to know how I know you haven't? Try it.
>>53944706
>You mean thumbnails?
My thumbnails don't get sent to Microsoft.
>Fooooor? Could it be Cortana?
A feature like Cortana shouldn't require sending that data to Microsoft.
>And does what with them?
Send them to Microsoft.
>Yes. All web browsers do that.
My web browser doesn't send that data to Microsoft.
>It being part of telemetry doesn't say anything about spying.
Do you know what “telemetry” stands for? It literally means data that is sent back to Microsoft for “analysis”.
>>53945210
>trusting a PRISM company to provide an impartial picture of reality
It's already *known* that Google deliberately censors controversial or sensitive links, sometimes secretly.
>>53944576
>so no telemetry and logging can be done on me
>>53944576
To completely disable telemetry on enterprise I think you need to be joined to a domain.
I'm running Windows 8 professional on one of my HDDs. Are there any steps that can be done to reduce my botnet levels?
>>53945594
FYI Google is ran by Humans, not emotional robots.
>>53944706
>>53945210
Keep denying it goys
>>53944576
again, why do people lie about this stuff?
just stick to the things we know are true (i.e telemetry) there's no reason to make up stuff.
>>53945721
Avoid or remove and hide the telemetry and GWX updates. Set updating to manual so you don't get them automatically. Look through Task Scheduler for any remaining botnettish things. Go into PC Settings and disable the various privacy settings if you didn't at install time. Install Classic Shell and disable the corner/edge actions. Uninstall various Metro apps and more or less avoid Metro altogether.
And if you linked your PC to a MS account at setup time, create a local account and delete the linked one.
You now have a pretty normal and usable desktop OS.
>>53945767
"Keep denying it" is not a valid response to a request for evidence that does not appear to exist.
>>53945882
>"Keep denying it" is not a valid response to a request for evidence that does not appear to exist.
bandwagoners just want to be part of the meme.
>>53944627
Link to an article.
Im interested in knowing if they really do take screenshots. That seems a lot more ridiculous than just using tracking cookies.
My friend who had a pirated win7 upgraded to 10. They view porn, download cracked copy of games, torrent and still havent been vanned, so I dont know whats all this paranoia
>>53944576
>>53945953
I have searched and failed to find anything.
The child porn thing is this: Microsoft has included a technology called PhotoDNA in OneDrive. Any photos uploaded to OneDrive are scanned with it to determine whether they're illicit (currently just meaning CP though it could be extended to terrorist bomb instructions), even if you're only storing them personally or sharing them privately. Basically it uses some sort of specialized hash to see whether an image matches a known CP image, even if it's been resized, reencoded, text added, etc. Matches are sent to humans to check if they're false positives. Then, presumably, authorities are notified.
It's now offered as a cloud service so various image hosting and instant messaging services can check images users send to each other.
A big note, this does NOT send images stored on your computer to Microsoft. It analyzes images you send into the cloud yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhotoDNA -- see references section for some sources
>>53946086 again
The OneDrive/PhotoDNA link connects it to Windows 8 and 10 for tinfoil hatters. Windows 8/10 include OneDrive integration, therefore it's linked to PhotoDNA, therefore OH NOES MICROSOFT IS SCANNING ALL YOUR PICTURES!!!!1!oneoneeleven
>>53946086
Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
https://archive.is/OBGB1
Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
https://archive.is/tW6fu
Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
https://archive.is/2XIvX · https://archive.is/qLRZx
Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
https://archive.is/Zny36 · https://archive.is/sz1nt
https://archive.is/g3QdQ · https://archive.is/ko469
A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10:
Keypoints: Windows 10 has a keylogger and uploads all your
keystrokes every 5 minutes. Everything you type in Edge or
Cortana is sent to Microsoft, along with any media files it
finds. When webcam is enabled, 35MB of data goes to Microsoft.
Even with Cortana disabled/uninstalled, Windows 10 sends all
microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
https://archive.is/QnTTA
https://archive.is/eZKc9
Windows 10 sends desktop screenshots straight to Microsoft:
https://d2.maxfile.ro/rwspylwbwo.webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDeHqiydk4A
Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
https://archive.is/vhjwm
https://archive.is/2jehd
Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
https://archive.is/MB0Yy
>Over 82 billion photos viewed.
>Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
>44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
>Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
>Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
>windows
Enjoy your botnet.
>Implying snooping ends with Windows
Your ISP knows what you jerk it to, and so do the sites you visit.
>>53946118
whoop there it is >>53944609
>>53946086
funfact: 4chan's servers use PhotoDNA as well.
Literally all it does is cross-reference image hashes to try and detect CP.
Also it was never part of Windows, MS just happened to upload a video about it when W10 was coming out so people ran with it.
>>53946118
>open up video
>insider preview
you are so fucking stupid anon.
>>53946118
>rsa decryptor
lmao you're stupid if you believe this shit
>>53946118
>>Over 82 billion photos viewed.
I read the link anon, it says "Over 82 billion photos viewed within the Windows 10 Photo app."
Why are you trying to hide the truth?
>>53946210
>funfact: 4chan's servers use PhotoDNA as well.
proof?
>>53946118
>Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
>Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
>Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
I'm not disputing this. However, for Microsoft or the NSA to spy on shit I do, I have to transmit it over the Internet, load something that exploits a flaw that makes my computer reveal it, or already be running something that's spying. I don't dispute the first 2 of those either. It's the last one I'm saying there's no evidence for -- that MS has already planted spy stuff on our computers.
>Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
This is for non-enterprise end users. Companies would flip their shit and drop Bitlocker in an instant if this affected Enterprise Edition. Also it's not done for the NSA, though I don't doubt they would turn over keys to the NSA if asked. The feature is intended to be a response for "herp derp I forgot my encryption password, how do I computer now?"
>Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
even after related settings are turned off:
Link 1: This is on Technical Preview, which is known to have way more spying than the release version. This was for beta test purposes.
Link 2: www.msftncsi.com/ncsi.txt and ipv6.msftncsi.com/ncsi.txt are to test whether you have Internet access, nothing more. 7 does this too. Telemetry stuff: Yeah they confirmed that even if you turn off all the switches in Settings it will still do some telemetry. There's instructions at https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10 for disabling/blocking the rest. Also this is not screenshots and keylogs, it's telemetry like "user used feature X 20 times and has not touches feature Y".
Link 3, 4: Same
>>53944689
>I think it's a good OS but I think it's clear that the feds are paying M$ to spy on everyone, just like with google and facebook and apple.
We just have to wait until a similar case happens with the iPhone break in with an MS device until everyone ditches Windows devices entirely
>>53946286
>Google and Windows proclaim their support for Apple during the incident
>still shill for the NSA and are fully anti-privacy
Gee thanks guys, now I know I can trust you.
>>53946118
>Keypoints: Windows 10 has a keylogger and uploads all your
>keystrokes every 5 minutes. Everything you type in Edge or
>Cortana is sent to Microsoft, along with any media files it
>finds. When webcam is enabled, 35MB of data goes to Microsoft.
>Even with Cortana disabled/uninstalled, Windows 10 sends all
>microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
Link 1: I can't read this shit, what language is this even?
Link 2: Insider Fucking Preview. It's supposed to fucking log everything for beta test purposes. Now show me something from fucking release.
>Windows 10 sends desktop screenshots straight to Microsoft:
Again, give me some explanation other than a video of unknown source that's likely edited. If this is real, Google would be full of results explaining, reproducing and explaining it. Yet there is nothing but this one video.
>Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
This is the EULA, MS saying they reserve the right to do so. There is no evidence they either can or do do this. If I said I reserve the right to shoot lasers from my eyes, would you believe I could or would?
>Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
>https://archive.is/MB0Yy
>>Over 82 billion photos viewed.
>>Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
>>44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
>>Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
>>Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
My Little Telemetry: Anonymous demographics are magic. Again, reporting back to MS "User viewed 20 photos, then played a game the rest of the night while having an Edge window open" is a far shot from "Microsoft records all images you view and everything you do in Edge".
MacOs X Logs your MKV files.
>>53946432
Linux logs your cpp files.
Nice FUD freetards.
>>53944689
g00gle and fecesbook aren't operative systems, shill
>>53944576
>>Windows 10 forces your lockscreen to show ads
it doesn't actually force you, it's pretty prominent in settings
>>53944704
nice shilling goy
that shitty how-to ignores at least another 4 reg entries
wake up goym
>>53946263
test it out
>>53944706
a-are you mentally retarded?
>>53944576
>>Windows 10 takes a screenshot of every video file or image you view.
My linux distro does the same thing "~/.thumbnails/". But I'm assuming you can turn it off in linux.
>Windows 10 logs webpages you visit
How is this different than what your web browser already does by default?
Curious about this stuff because my parents are about to get a computer with W10.
>>53948116
>tfw read the terms of service, all things I agreed to when updating to windows 10, so I know what was written in it
>tfw g is paranoid af and there's no real proof about any of the spying they're talking about
>tfw all they have is one webm of some guy recording his network ussage and everyone swallowed it as the stupid faggots they are
>tfw comfy af win10
I use ubuntu at work btw
>>53946136
.
>BOTNET
>O........E
>T.........N
>N........T
>E........O
>TENTOB
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>_
>>53946210
>CP
everytime, is that a mantra in the NSA cubicles, Recurit McShill ?????????????????????????
>>53945651
Isn't that what the custom hosts file and firewall is for? How would MS get your info if you block them that way?
>>53946282
>However
fucking discard item
>>53948197
nah m8, 4chan is just paranoid
I use win10 ever since it came out really
is all coo'
never had those lockscreen ads either, but I'm pretty sure it was in one of the options when installing windows
>>53948223
it was confirmed somewhere that windows' ips are hard-coded into the libraries, blocking them on host-level does nothing
you'd need a 3rd party router
>>53948223
are you dumb?
the urls as
GFX.MS
are embedded in the executables
wake up, mr. SHILL
>>53948261
How is asking a question being a shill?
I swear, it's like summer came early when people throw fucking buzzwords without understanding what they mean.
>>53948310
just ignore him, he's autistic
>>53944576
It's 2016 bruv. Privacy is no longer a privilege.
>>53948310
you are either:
ignorant
or
a shill
the fake security over muh host file has been discussed on the net, search with your fav engine:
BING
I
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G
>>53944576
You forgot to mention all of that spying takes place at the kernel level, and also patches your BIOS so the spying goes on even when your computer is off.
>>53944576
>Windows 10 takes a screenshot of every video file or image you view.
Source on that, fucktard.
>Windows 10 takes a screenshot of every video file or image you view.
A thumbnail which is used in the indexing stack if you have indexing enabled for a drive
>Windows 10 records snippets of microphone recordings across any application - be it skype or a game
What the fuck are you talking about?
>Windows 10 forces your lockscreen to show ads
It's a small feature which informs you of facts about things in the lockscreen if you have the default lockscreen screensaver
>Windows 10 records your keystrokes
It uses this for building a local sentence dictory, same thing happans with android and IOS, serious, open a sms and type one of your favorite gelbooru tags and it'll give you another tag you use
>Windows 10 logs webpages you visit
It has a blacklist of sites like chrome has, if you visit said site it recommends you leave because it may be unsafe, this is the smartscreen feature which normies use.
Source: Ex-windows phone 8.1 dev here
And now I pop your bubble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umQL37AC_YM
>>53948319
yours are ASSumptions
>>53948245
>it was confirmed somewhere that windows' ips are hard-coded into the libraries, blocking them on host-level does nothing
>you'd need a 3rd party router
That is a security measure to make sure malware can't block access to Windows Updates. It has nothing to do with telemetry. The telemetry hosts are NOT hard-coded.
>>53944576
>PS. I use windows 10 enterprise modified to fuck, so no telemetry and logging can be done on me by the faggots.
If it's not LTSB, kill yourself
i'm not in america and that kinda datagathering is illegal in germany
i can open all the child porn and bomb instruction i want
>>53948379
I heard Germany is a big fan of kiddiddling vids, confirm/deny
>>53948339
I don't know much about Windows 10 spying bullshit because I don't use it. Last Windows OS I used was 7.
>>53948389
can't confirm
court cases tend to sink into nothingness though
>>53948371
well I never said it's telemetry, I just said it's some windows' ips
even more reasonable to have it that way, then
all of those "features" are deactivateable or even default deactivated in the enterprise realease
>>53948423
In the LTSB one only, not CB.
Wasn't there some post from a Windows 10 dev about what all the "spying" features were for and how incompetent Microsoft actually is? After I read that I started questioning if they could do shit even if you had CP and all sorts of illegal shit on a Windows 10 install when they don't even know what's going on with their own OS. I could be wrong, but it does make sense. Think of how incompetent most corporations and governments are.
>>53948481
>>53948423
please elaborate
>>53948355
just ignore him dude, he's autistic.
This entire thread is a poo in the loo. Let it die.
>>53948519
Still gonna bump though lol
>>53948487
Clearly the "Make Windows send your fart fetish porn to CIA" division are the brilliant masterminds while the "Make the new start menu and control panel" division are the mouthbreathing retards.
>>53948529
lewd, I completely forgot about saging
let me fix this
>>53945210
Most of this was preflight, and in big fucking letters BEFORE you downloaded the ISO.
> Audio recording
Cortana if used, otherwise voice search. Much like Siri or Google Now (or whatever it's called today) do. This type of analysis is always done in the "cloud"
> Lock screen ad's
The default lock screen is the Bing picture of the day. It can be changed.
> Web page logging
Windows defender. Happens in EVERY version of Windows unless you turn it off.
Most of the Windows 10 FUD is people being stupid and excessively paranoid. Telemetry data is pretty bland. Somewhere between Debian's package use survey, and Ubuntu's update my system. The additional communication happens when you use things like One Drive, Groove, Mail, etc. Data is getting sent to the service you use. Again, not unique to Microsoft or Windows 10.
If you can find it, there is a Microsoft internal tool called Timber. Between that and Netmon (Microsoft's version of Wireshark) you can pull and decrypt telemetry sessions. But it's a lot of work for pretty boring information.
Why don't they simply send hashes of each file to their server? Just imagine the possibilites. They would know what you torrent, what you create and so on.
>>53948515
LTSB does not contain METRO applocations and can disable updates and telemetry, through GPedit though..
>>53948589
yet, it's pirated
enjoy being v8
>>53944758
Source on the screenshot stuff?
>>53948602
it's the original iso, untouched. has like 180 days trial and you can kms activate it
>>53944576
>PS. I use windows 10 enterprise modified to fuck, so no telemetry and logging can be done on me by the faggots.
>this retard actually believe this
>>53948618
Windows 10 sends desktop screenshots straight to Microsoft:
https://d2.maxfile.ro/rwspylwbwo.webm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDeHqiydk4A
>>53948602
I doubt Microsoft gives two flying fucks about some shmuck pirating their software. The biggest worry is communication with NSA and big gov data centers to be stored forever. I can't even see them caring about pirated software unless you are distributing highly illegal stuff. It's more the principle of freedom being eroded away than anything else, while Microshit sells your data.
>>53946356
>a little bit of spying is ok
No, it really isn't.
>>53948701
I just noticed today:
> Removed by the request of copyright owner and not available for download, 2 days ago
https://kat.cr/windows-10-enterprise-ltsb-rtm-msdn-x64-en-us-t11017274.html
Why would they go after LTSB version, it'slike they don't want you to use it. But they allow the botnet version to be torrented.
>>53948818
>torrenting
there's your problem
>>53948818
is the enterprise version botnet free?
>>53948828
are you retarded?
>>53948838
LTSB one, kind of..? >>53948589 You're better off with 7 though
>>53948840
are you?
>>53948850
>>53948589
>>53948838
actually, telemetry can be disabled in all enterprise versions
updates can only be disabled in LTSB
>>53948860
You cant disable telemetry, even in enterprise.
>>53948860
Still calls home, even LTSB, hence why Isaid 7 is your best bet atm.
>>53944706
saved for cringe thread
>>Windows 10 takes a screenshot of every video file or image you view.
The only time it does this is you submit feedback and choose to let it take one (it uses "steps recorder" which you can open as normal user).
On the tenforums someone found out why a few people had "secret screenshots" stored in their pictures folder, it was because they hit a key combo that triggered a feedback but because they had no insider hub it just died and kept the temp image in plain sight of their files.
>>53948913
Oh and the whole "it scans everything you have" is a lie too, it only does that if you upload files by choice to onedrive.
When you upload them to onedrive they get checked by PhotoDNA which was developed by Microsoft and is also used by other companies to scan all files; Google Drive, Facebook, Twitter and Dropbox are all examples of companies using PhotoDNA scanning.
>>53948860
How can you be sure it really turns off telemetry and it is not just an empy promise?
>>53944706
Microsoft fanboy detected.
>>53948222
it's literally the purpose of it though.
If they wanted ANY photo the hashing would not work.
If they already had hash identifiers for every image on the internet, why would they even need to scan your computer?
Think before you post.
>>53948116
Well this sounds logical. So basically if you don't use the dumb apps nobody wants anyway, you should be fine
>>53944576
>>53946118
If everything you wrote is true then I would be in jail by now. So literally everything you wrote is pure bullshit.
>>53948695
>He actually believes this shit
>>53950511
>he believes two barely legal images even count anything
>>53944576
this functionality has existed since at least windows XP
the fact that you think it just now is being used is fucking hilarious.
>Microsoft has to view my nonstop encyclopedia dramatica browsing
Good, I'll be sure to spend more time on it.
>>53944593
>>53950629
You are going to have try harder Mr. Shill.
>>53944576
>PS. I use windows 10 enterprise modified to fuck, so no telemetry and logging can be done on me by the faggots.
>he actually believes he turned off the botnet
>>53944576
provide a reliable source for everything you just claimed.
>>53944576
[lack of sauce intensifies]
>>53952063
>video and weebum from some ruskie
>legit source
>literally the only "proof" and gets reposted every time
>can't even reproduce it himself
>just calls everyone who disagrees a shill
>he sure showed them
ok dude
>>53952063
>using an insider install
>whining about beta tester telemetry when you've clearly signed up for it
Top kek
>proved fake; 3kb screenshot of an image? no way!
>unproved
>true
>true
>half true
>>53944706
Holy fuck winbabies will believe anything.
>>53952318
>Windows 10 forces your lockscreen to show ads
>true
Uh what? I've never seen this.
>>53952220
>>53952177
The problem is that windows is closed source, so there's no actual way to provide sauce of any of this. All you can do is look at network traffic and verify that FAR more data is being sent back than windows 7 or 8.1, even with all telemetry "disabled"
The telemetry in windows 10 can't be disabled from the OS itself without breaking system functionality. It requires router firewall rules, and even then microsoft has (potentially) millions of domains which would need to be firewalled.
The fact is:
1. This is the first time Microsoft has offered its OS for """free""" to users, and in an extremely aggressive borderline intrusive way.
2. This is the first time Microsoft has forced telemetry on with no user option to completely turn it off, even in Enterprise. The hosts file is demonstrably no longer reliable.
3. Microsoft is part of PRISM and is known to work with the NSA and law enforcement.
4. Microsoft has failed to comment on any of this
This is all apart from the fact that windows 10, in general, is complete shit compared to 7/8.1. I'm not sure why anyone would willingly use it unless they're a paid shill.
Oh my fucking god, this shit again?
Are you people fucking retarded, or haven't you learned your lesson?
If you don't want Mickeysoft snooping through your stuff, simply DO NOT USE A MICROSOFT ACCOUNT WITH WINDOWS 10.
Did you get that?
DO NOT USE A MICROSOFT ACCOUNT WITH WINDOWS 10.
Sure, without a MS Account, you won't be able to download "apps" from the "Windows Store", but who the fuck needs that piece of shit "app store"?
Use a "local account" with Windows 10, and disable all the privacy settings related to aforementioned "apps", and change your default programs for video/pictures/music from those "apps" to something like Windows Media Player or Irfanview, and you will be golden.
Microsoft does not care about you once you tell them to fuck off with their "app" bullshit.
>>53952620
>If you don't want Mickeysoft snooping through your stuff, simply DO NOT USE A MICROSOFT ACCOUNT WITH WINDOWS 10.
>and disable all the privacy settings related to aforementioned "apps", and change your default programs for video/pictures/music from those "apps" to something like Windows Media Player or Irfanview, and you will be golden.
That doesn't actually turn off the telemetry at all though. Like it barely even scratches the surface.
>Sure, without a MS Account, you won't be able to download "apps" from the "Windows Store", but who the fuck needs that piece of shit "app store"?
I'm pretty sure this isn't even true. You can still use the winblows store with a local account, you just need to log into a microshit account to use it.
>>53952713
> That doesn't actually turn off the telemetry at all though. Like it barely even scratches the surface.
Since Windows XP, telemetry has been a part of Windows.
It got worse in Windows Vista when Microsoft introduced "Action Centre" or whatever the fuck its called, in which, when a program crashes, it does the "Checking for Solutions" thing. That has been in Windows since Vista and it isn't going anywhere. That's part of the telemetry that you cannot disable. And who cares if you're sending data to Mickeysoft about how and why iTunes crashed?
> I'm pretty sure this isn't even true. You can still use the winblows store with a local account, you just need to log into a microshit account to use it.
You're right, you can log-in to individual "apps" in order to use them instead of having the whole OS used with a Microsoft Account. But again, why the hell would you even bother looking at that piece of shit "Store"?
Just do what I said, disable everything you're uncomfortable with, and MS won't bother or snoop you.
>>53952398
See, a lot of those things still stand, but your conclusions all end up as conjecture and subjective opinions as seen in your last paragraph
>This is all apart from the fact that windows 10, in general, is complete shit compared to 7/8.1. I'm not sure why anyone would willingly use it unless they're a paid shill.
This just makes you look like someone trying to push their own agenda.
A lot of your points can be viewed from a business angle: Microsoft is looking at their competitors and trying to copy them, namely Google and Apple. They're basically playing catchup, you can see it in a lot of shit: app store, Edge, Cortana, stepping up telemetry, etc. and they're trying to fix past "mistakes" like businesses and governments taking forever to upgrade.
Microsoft is basically an old dinosaur weighted down by legacy code and legacy management trying to lead a new generation of programmers.
But yes, let's pretend they know what the fuck they're actually doing and that their primary objective is to maliciously snoop on their users for alphabet agencies instead of making money.
Let's also pretend their competition didn't do the same shit first but they somehow only get a passing mention here and there while Microsoft bashing gets entire threads about it.
tl;dr It's hip to shit on Microsoft currently. Everyone else is called a shill.
>>53952770
>Since Windows XP, telemetry has been a part of Windows.
It's been enhanced since windows 10 though. And in 7/8.1 it can actually be completely disabled with this script, which includes uninstalling the specific updates that pushed enhanced telemetry back from windows 10.
http://pastebin.com/NcUuZFb6
In 10, there's telemetry integrated into core OS functionality. It can't be disabled without breaking the OS or using router firewalls.
>And who cares if you're sending data to Mickeysoft about how and why iTunes crashed?
The problem is that I don't know what data is being sent. Maybe it's just crash reports, including memory dumps which may or may not contain information I don't want to share. Maybe it's a lot more. In past versions of windows I could just disable it completely and rest easy. This is no longer the case. The only thing that is certain is that FAR more data is being pushed back in windows 10 than 7.
>>53952978
But WHAT could the data possibly have that could even identify you?
Like you said, i's just memory dumps and crash logs. That's it.
>>53952958
>See, a lot of those things still stand, but your conclusions all end up as conjecture and subjective opinions as seen in your last paragraph
I admit it's subjective, but it's an opinion based on objective downgrades in windows 10. Deprecation of control over updates, limited control over upgrades, limited or no control over telemetry, functional downgrades with the new settings app, inability to even search for .exe's in the start menu unless they're already in the apps folder (even with full indexing), silent changes to the UAC slider (it's not fully disabled at the bottom tick anymore), downgrade to personalization options, hosts file no longer being reliable, downgraded task manager functionality, etc.
>Let's also pretend their competition didn't do the same shit first
Appeal to common practice. I don't give a fuck who else is doing it, I just want m$ to stop. I'm shitting on m$/windows 10 because I want it to be better. I really do. I'm stuck on 7 for the time being and transitioning to linux, but I'd love to use windows 10 if microsoft even pretended to care about the user anymore.
I make compromises on my phone, with my email, facebook,etc, because I know I'm being tracked. I can't make those compromises on my OS.
>>53953015
machine id tied to IP address
IP address tied to home address
home address tied to my name
And that's assuming there's nothing identifying in the memory dump which would then allow tying additional info to me
>>53952770
Netflix is th e nly app I use.Much better than chrome. HD and lighter on resources
>>53953101
You're fucking delusional and paranoid.
Microsoft has known your IP address since Windows 98. Every time you use Windows Update Microsoft knows your IP, your processor, your motherboard, how much RAM you have, how much disk space you have, your time zone, and if you're computer is idle. How the fuck can you care if they know this information or not?
>>53953122
Surprisingly, Chrome/Firefox/Opera don't do 1080P HD on Netflix's website.
Internet Explorer 11 and Edge are the only two browsers on Windows that can display 1080p content on Netflix's website. So try those.
>>53944576
>Windows 10 takes a screenshot of every video file or image you view.
Insider Preview only.
>Windows 10 records snippets of microphone recordings across any application - be it skype or a game
Insider Preview only
>Windows 10 forces your lockscreen to show ads
It can be disabled. Pick your own lockscreen.
>Windows 10 records your keystrokes
Insider Preview only
>Windows 10 logs webpages you visit
Insider Preview Edge only
And this is how the technology board has outdated information
>>53952310
LMAOOOOOOO
LITERALLY THIS
FREETARDS ON SUICIDE WATCH BECAUSE PEOPLE STILL AREN'T MIGRATING TO LINUX EVEN AFTER THIS MANY YEARS
>M-M-MUH VULKAN
JUST HURRY THE FUCK UP AND JUMP OFF A GOD DAMN BRIDGE ALREADY
>>53953450
I don't care if they know that information. I do care if they know any other information I choose not to share, which is questionable at best in windows 10.
