>GTX 1080
>R9 490X
what pick?
>>53932922
Is it bad I want the 1080 just because of its name, Mr. Dubs?
DX 12, that is all.
490x
Meme asides, I think the GTX1080 will be again way more energy efficient than the AMD counterpart.
The basic architectural chip design hasn't changed much.
>>53932964
so you can finally play them 1080p games on medium settings?
>>53933033
AMD had the best performance per watt increase this release
amd radeon pro duo?
>>53933075
Not for gaymen
>>53933053
NOPE.AVI
>>53933053
I don't believe that before I see that with my own eyes, or just from various review sites.
In the core it is still the GCN platform.
And that Tesla thing Nvidia has showed us, is not for end consumer market anyways.
Whatever, I will buy the best performance per watt card, if they will cost about the same.
I doubt though you will get either the GTX1070 or the R9 490 for less than 380€.
They will milk you out.
>>53933033
no you fucking retard, it's the complete opposite.
>>53932922
performance, per watt...and also per dollar.
>>53933095
have fun playing DX12 games with drivers that will hopefully not brick your build.
http://wccftech.com/nvidias-latest-game-ready-driver-allegedly-killing-gpus-plagued-issues/
>>53932922
>7.5GB
vs
>1000W housefire
no thx, I'll go with Intel GPU
http://videocardz.com/58955/amd-polaris-11-sku-spotted-has-16-compute-units
AMDPOORFAGS might as well commit suicide now, gets utterly crushed in performance by GTX 950
>>53932922
some questions:
Does the gtx 1070 have 8GB too?
Do both cards support DX12 100%?
>>53933201
Kek
>>53933201
but it has facedetection anon. this alone makes it superior in every aspect
>>53933041
So will the 490x let me do the same at “490p”?
>>53933347
you disregarded the x. the x stands for times over 1080p
>>53933355
Kek, alright you got me
No, wait. GT"X". The times is just at the beginning!
Yo fags, watch this, in order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw-QA1BanJw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ7VCOgMZ9I
>>53933404
>Watching lies from AMD asslicker Adored
>>53933444
your call. Watch the comments.
I'd buy the one with best Linux support, unless Nvidia does the same thing it did with the GTX970. Maybe I'd go with AMD again just because Nvidia is such a disgusting company. I can't buy something that says one thing on the spec sheet but actually has different features.
>>53933404
Thought originally that guy was a joke with the thick accent, but really his vids are some of the best I've ever seen
>>53933444
While he might be biased towards amd. The guy actually just deals with facts and is very informative
Whichever comes out first for me, I'm fucking sick of waiting. Probably AMD anyway because they've served me well in the past and I don't like one goddamn thing Nvidia has done in the last few years. Oh, and Freesync monitors are way cheaper (yet another reason to tell Nvidia to fuck off) so that's a plus too.
>>53933492
>>53934132
Good for you 2 idiots to be brainwashed by an AMD asslicker, keep on licking up that asshole of biased lies
>>53932922
>picking before knowing how they perform or how much they cost
[spoiler]AMD is looking to be better this gen[/spoiler]
>>53934293
Best to trust your words instead, they are quite unbiased as we can see!
>>53933203
>too?
the 1080 has 7.5GB
The one that has HBM2
>>53934293
>nvidiot calling anyone else brainwashed
>>53934586
>>53934790
>BUTTMAD AMDPOORFAGS DETECTED
>>53934770
they both have gddrX5
>>53934971
I know, I'm not buying either.
http://videocardz.com/58634/amd-confirms-polaris-10-is-ellesmere-and-polaris-11-is-baffin
>* Find out if memory is GDDR5.
>vbios.number_of_dram_channels = 8
>GDDR5
>256bit
TOPPEST LELKEK, AMDPOORFAGS
Nvidia using 16nm AMD using 14nm with finfets, AMD will therefore be more powerful and operate at a cooler temperature, read quieter. Ill be going AMD.
>>53935049
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
>One observation I made today which was particularly concerning, was that both with the Snapdragon 820 LG G5 as well as the Exynos 8890 Galaxy S7 got considerably warm after running some heavy workloads. The fact that the Galaxy S7 touts having a heat-pipe thermal dissipation system is a quite worrying characteristic of the phone and should in no way be seen as a positive feature as it points to high power draw figures on the part of the SoC.
Enjoy your AMD HOUSEFIRES
>>53935015
>that one Nvidiot that always types "TOPPEST LELKEK" in these threads
Seriously end yourself, my man.
>>53935049
Samsung's 14nm process -- at least up to now -- has been shown to have curiously higher power draw and lower efficiency to the competing 16nm process.
It's a bit worrying, but that's on the scale of phone chips. Maybe it'll change between now and then.
NVidia's making some additions that are probably going to make their chips run hot, though. I'm not expecting Fermi level housefires, but hot and hungry, still.
It's all speculation at this point anyway.
>the compubench entry for Polaris 11 is showing performance that’s 1/3 that of the R7 370
>People still have hopes for Polaris
>>53935253
Ok cool, didn't know that, colour me informed.
>>53934293
>Good for you 2 idiots to be brainwashed by an AMD asslicker, keep on licking up that asshole of biased lies
> Blind Novidia fangirl calls other people brainwashed
Deep inside you know Adored is right.
>>53935289
>same number of CUs
>more advanced technology
>15% slower clock
>1/3rd the performance
>legit benchmark
You people will believe anything
>>53935316
>Deep down you know Adored is wrong
FTFY
>>53933033
>Meme asides
>energy efficient
Do you work for Edison?
have r9 390 so i'm skipping this iteration. maybe next one too, depends if i'll want to move away from 1080p and if newer cards wont be just refreshes.
>>53932922
which ever has a faster release.
>>53935520
This. I don't think anything's going to stump the 390 any time soon
>>53932922
>1080Ti
I'll probably take a look on AMDs bigchip but won't buy it unless it is much better for less price.
Requirements:
- 2x 980Ti performance (Max 4K @60Hz)
- Overclockable (Better VRM edition custom model)
- 8 GB HBM2, better 12
Currently sitting with a 780Ti on a 4K Gsync, could be worse. Still better than 3.5.
Rolling with my 980Ti for a while.
And trying to swallow my remorse.
>>53935697
Why remorse? I would sell it then. I got 850 € for my Titan X one month ago - Better sell it now and buy something real in the end of this year.
You can get good and powerful GPUs very cheap, 780Ti and 290X are around 200 € now.
>>53935741
That is true but I live in northern Yurop and I wouldn't get the ~710€ I payed back. I do own a spare reference 290X tho.
>>53935760
You'll loose, I lost 100 € with my Titan X, got it for 950 when the average price was 1200+.
>Reference
Look up the Arctic Accelero IV. It looks like shit but its the best air cooling solution that exists.
I'm thinking of grabbing a defective 780Ti Hybrid for 40 €, still unsure, I would take the cooler for mine and try to fix that GPU. I already have someone who can solder.
>>53932922
Look and see for yourself. Nvidia is slowly getting slaughtered by DX12 based games, it's not even close.
>>53932922
Never buy the non-Ti card. Wait for HBM2.
>>53935853
>48FPS
>Game is not even true 1920x1080
>Ingame MSAA is not even real geometry MSAA.
>>53936077
>26FPS
>Game is not even true 1920x1080
>Ingame MSAA is not even real geometry MSAA.
>>53935497
You didn't even watch his vids, did you?
Frankly, if I had the money I would go nvidia this time.
Last nv I had was a 7900GT. It overheated like shit but that was back then. Since that I bought just AMD and while I never had one of them die on me, they didn't really perform that well and frankly drivers were always hell. Always.
Shit right now the only thing that keeps me from using linux is my GPU, a 280x. I wish for either better drivers or just fucking trade it for some nvidia equivalent or something.
>>53934989
but isn't gddrX5 better than hbm2?
Got an idiot friend that thinks NVlink is going to be a standard for CONSUMER pascal GPUs. I know nvidia isn't dumb enough to alienate an entire market share since only the Tesla pascal cards are made to completely satiate PCIe 3.0. Does anybody have definitive source that says Consume pascal is going to use standard PCIe?
>>53932922
does this mean there's a chance the 980 ti price will drop to 400$ ?
>>53936770
No, its just double the speed of GDDR5. HBM2 is even more efficient and extremly fast.
So, if the GP100 Tesla card uses 720 MHz HBM2, we'll possibly see 1 TB/s+ custom gaming cards.
>>53936829
Yes, this could happen by the end of this year, dependant of how fast the new cards are. But why buy 980Ti when you can get new cards that are faster (Even if you buy only a $ 400 model)?
>http://wccftech.com/amd-polaris-11-gpu-specifications-leaked-compubench/
>128bit
AMDead retards are hyping an upcoming AMD product, nothing new and will thus yet again be disappointed.
The R9 490 will be just a bit faster than its equivalent, the R9 390, needs less energy (I guess at the level of a GTX980), and will cost atleast 380€.
Have fun, you gullible retards.
>>53937056
>hyping up
This, like the Fury x
>>53937056
>Your face when Pascal is literally Maxwell on a smaller die and Polaris is a lot better than you imagined
>>53937089
>Pascal is literally Maxwell on a smaller
Nothing wrong, Maxwell was and is still great.
The GTX980 is still the best card out there performance per Watts.
>>53936959
That's the midrange chip.
The high end one is Polaris 10 and has a 256bit bus.
>>53935583
>>53935520
my 390 bros
>>53937119
>Maxwell on a smaller node would be great! I don't care if I get no new features or improvements!
Uh huh. Meanwhile, the adults are expecting companies to bring improvements any time they release something new.
>BUT AMD REBRANDED THE 300 SERIES!!!
Yes, they did. And appropriately got grilled for it.
However, they're not alone in doing so. Remember the Nvidia 700 series?
Anyone who owned a 200 series Radeon card should've scoffed at the idea of getting a 300 series card; and most did.
You should be pressing Nvidia to make improvements and progress technology, not applaud them for rebranding shit while slamming the competition for doing the same.
>>53933347
qt fox
Pascal is not Maxwell, how many times you AMDPOORFAG retards gonna repeat this lie?
https://devblogs.nvidia.com/parallelforall/inside-pascal/
>Unified Memory and Compute Preemption
>GP100 further improves atomics by providing an FP64 atomic add instruction for values in global memory. The `atomicAdd()“ function in CUDA now applies to 32 and 64-bit integer and floating-point data. Previously, FP64 atomic addition had to be implemented using a compare-and-swap loop, which is generally slower than a native instruction.
>GP100 supports the new Compute Capability 6.0
>GP100 extends GPU addressing capabilities to enable 49-bit virtual addressing. This is large enough to cover the 48-bit virtual address spaces of modern CPUs, as well as the GPU’s own memory. Therefore, GP100 Unified Memory allows programs to access the full address spaces of all CPUs and GPUs in the system as a single virtual address space, unlimited by the physical memory size of any one processor.
>>53937228
Hi NVIDIAPOORFAG
>>53937249
>BUTTMAD AMDPOORFAG DETECTED
>>53937272
Hi NVIDIAPOORFAG
AMDPOORFAGS are uneducated bunch of illiterate faggots that can't read or understand technology
NVIDIAPOORFAGS are an uneducated bunch of illiterate faggots that can't read or understand technology.
>>53937316
An, you fucking monkey. AN.
>>53937341
Your mother is a bitch cunt whore cumdump that was raped and gave birth to a illegitimate bastard of a child? Everyone already knows that, AMDPOORFAG
>>53937316
Oi, monkeyboy, Pajeet. Get the fuck out of my indowanese knitting image posting website if you can't use proper ENGLISH.
Dirty fucking Indians shitting on my streets. You deserve to die.
>>53937388
1 rupee has been deposited into your account Pajeetbitch
>>53934293
Nvidia fanboy calling anyone brainwashed Kek. The irony is real.
>>53937414
Yes, yes, we don't need to be informed of your shill status, monkeyboy.
What is the spec of the 490x?????
>>53932922
Whichever one has less wattage requirements
>>53937435
You're the sad pathetic monkeyboy like Ballmer?
But everyone already knows that, you little bitch with no balls
>>53937414
NVIDIAPOORFAGS need to go.
>>53937119
>defends nvidia rebadging
>won't stop crying about and rebadging
Ayymd fanboys are mildly annoying, but the nvidiots that defend literally anything nvidia does are the worst.
>>53937466
>>53932922
>HBM1
Overhyped
>Fury X
Slower than the 980ti and overhyped
>3xx
Rebrands, high power-consumption
Nvidia are evils
but AMD are incompetent
>>53937483
>>53937191
Not him but how 28nm to 16nm is rebrand?
Anyone skipping this year's GPU and wait for next year's Vega or even 2018's GPU?
>>53937572
Exactly this. 9xx series are more advanced but shitty (960, 70) or overpriced (80, Ti, Titan).
AMDs are just overpriced rebrands and a shitty card that was ment for 4K but has only 4GB.
>>53937715
Yes, due to that nothing currently can deliver true 4K experience. 2017 will be the year of 4K.
So when are we going to hear anything about Pascal or Polaris?
It's almost May and we're past the predicted time periods with nVidia failing to deliver just the other day.
Looks like we're not going get our hands on either product until next year. It's a shame because nothing from either camp is particularly enticing currently.
>own Nvidia cards
>hate the majority of Nvidia fanboys
Anyone else feel this way?
>>53937824
NVIDIOT
>>53937174
What case
ALL THESE nVIDIA SHILLS TEARS
>>53937973
No man, just no. Its not cool to call people Nvidiots when they're doing nothing wrong.
By doing so, you're just as bad as the 'AMDPOORFAGS' guy.
AMD ROCK HARD FUCK YEAHHHH!
>>53938074
>False flagging this hard
Jesus Christ mate, just give it a rest.
go amd go
>>53932922
People who did nothing wrong:
1. Hitler
2. Lucifer
3. Chelsea - Barcelona 2009 referee
.
9999 Jen-Hsun Huan
>>53938086
I forgot to quote
>>53938036
>>53937174
/nitro/ reporting in too, great card
>>53938159
a very hot card*
>>53938183
>not using your GPU as heating for your house
>>53938214
But the winter is over desu
>>53938232
>not living at an Antarctican research centre
plebs need not apply
>>53937613
For the same reason a polished turd is still a turd
>>53937613
Its no different to 290->390.
390 bought higher clocks and more VRAM.
Pascal brings Maxwell shrunk down from 28->16nm.
>>53938183
I won't buy an AMD until they fix their multi-monitor and video-playing power consumption.
>>53938469
The GM200 was bad?
>>53938519
>Its no different to 290->390
This is bullshit, the 290 and the 390 are THE SAME GPU, literally a copypasta without improvement
>390 bought higher clocks
Yes...take the 290 with a higher factory clock...Look the power draw.
>>53933160
actually nvidia will be the housefire this time
>>53933347
Yes
>>53938630
And Pascal is THE SAME GPU as Maxwell.
I'm not denying the 390 was purely though higher power draw, and that there was no architectural improvements, don't get me wrong. I wasn't pleased with the no improvements either and would've preferred if they didn't bother release a 'new' series at all (and strictly release the Fury line.)
I do understand WHY they did, but Nvidia is doing the same with Pascal.
>>53933041
kek
>>53938630
>The GM200 was bad?
That's not what I said. I used the polished turd as an analogy.
>>53938675
>28nm = 16nm finFET
>THE SAME GPU
Nah, more overclocking potential, lower power consumption, less heat, cheaper
>>53938754
Regardless of the potential benefits of downsizing the node, doesn't mean its not the same GPU. It's literally going to be Maxwell, 16nm version.
>>53938763
but it's not
>>53936077
>nvidia can't even do true 1920x1080 or real geometry MSAA on a DX12 game
Nvidia is absolutely fucked, all the shills in India isn't going to save them this time.
>>53935508
Kek m8
>>53938763
It sounds like it's going to be directly based on Maxwell, with a shrink and some changes/additions. More like Maxwell+.
Seems like a pretty typical thing to do, shrink & adjust instead of some totally new architecture. The question is whether the things they're adding are going to give us another Fermi.
>>53932973
async too
it's going to be funny
>>53933203
Nvidia "supports" dx12 now
Nvidia won't deliver another Fermi.
The shown Tesla is made for professional usage.
Imagine the performance of a GTX980 with the power draw of a GTX960.
This is totally gonna happen.
>>53939582
Async is very difficult to implement, and it only gives you about 5% more fps.
>>53937119
>nothing wrong with Nvidia rebrands
oh the ironing like pottery
>>53938183
>says it runs hot
>has no temps
you're worse than the global warming douchebags
390's with a decent cooler run colder than a 970 or a 980 by like 10C on average
stay salty little fermi buyer
>>53939872
>power consumption and temperature aren't related
Do you know how shits work? Stop ridiculous yourself...
>with decent cooler
Thanks for confirm his point retarded. With the 3xx and Fury, you need a bigger cooler than Maxwell because the cards are so hot.
>>53939872
Cancer: the post
>>53939872
>HURR DURR THE COOLER IS SUPER MASSIF SO IT IS LESS HOT THAN THE 970/980
>POWER DRAW =/= TEMPERATURE
>GLOBAL WARMING IS FAKE, JESUS WILL SAVE US
Two digits IQ
>>53936817
>wondering if Nvidia will force everyone who wants a Pascal GPU to buy a new motherboard
Don't be stupid. They will use PCIe.
>>53940195
>GLOBAL WARMING IS FAKE
Is actually true btw.
Also true that the AMD chip still relies on the architecture they used on 290/X. Maxwell is a complete new design.
>>53940412
PCIe 4.0 by 2017, but it will be backwards compatible
I can use my 780Ti on a PCIe 1.1 from 2006
It will only be a bit bottlenecked
>>53940897
Trumptard spotted
>>53932922
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-3dmark-11-entries-spotted/
>7,680 MB
>>53939618
not full 100% dx 12
>>53939660
>Async is very difficult to implement, and it only gives you about 5% more fps.
Fucking nvidiots...
>>53940897
Strictly speaking the jump from tahiti to fiji (through both hawaii and tonga) is mostly just adding more of everything. While fiji/tonga's HWS work slightly differently to the ACE units tahiti and hawaii have fundamentally they do the same things (just better, obviously).
In a nutshell GCN has not evolved as much as Nvidia's cards have from fermi to kepler to maxwell. The mere fact that GCN still offers competitive performance is a feat within itself.
>>53933201
>The word ‘SKU’ in the post title is intentional, as we know that Polaris 11 will launch in many different configurations. [...] Therefore, it does not mean that full Polaris 11 silicon has 16 CUs, but this particular SKU does.
At least read the fucking page before shitposting about it.
Here is my take on this, with VR potentially becoming a standard here in the coming years it's a good time to future proof my PC. I also got some money to throw around (1.5-1.7K) i recently spent 1.5K on a 1440p XB271XU and some 3000MHZ DD4 quad channel and liqid cooling for overclocking and a 90+% effiecient PSU for 1000Watts. but i'll be using 700Watts most likely. so i have my Single MSI GTX980 i got rite now and i think MSI is made pretty good for overclocking and i'll stick with it until PASCAL equivalent of a Ti comes out way later. the launch versions of pascal will most likely be equivalent to a 980Ti. so basically I want a card in may but i'm going to hold off a bit and not hype too much i want that Ti equivalent later on.
>>53941050
>but i'll be using 700Watts most likely.
That takes serious effort unless you go full AMD. Even averagely overclocked most Intel chips will pull in the 150w range and outside oif peak draw (which is irrelevant) high end gpus now skirt around the 200-300w range.
Hell probably the thirstiest gpu ever made - 295x2 - will pull just under 500w on its own. So you'd need both your cpu and a 295x2 under full load to hit 700w on a good day.
Now a 9590 and dual gpu setup would be a different beast entirely.....
>>53941050
>VR meme
>meme PC
>1000W PSU
>>53940975
What a fucking retarded, it's why the card are hot...
>>53933404
>adored
probably the most biased 'informative' tech channel there is right now. i wish he gave an intel or an nvidia viewpoint for once except literally saying
>amd has this tech so nvidia btfo
>amd has 16 core cpus so intel btfo
he seems to always think intel or nvidia cant do what amd are doing, like async is exclusive to amd or having more than 6 cores is impossible on intel cpu.
now that i think about it he's pretty stupid for his age.
>>53941092
Ah, thanks just did this calculation, if you see here my PSU pull comes almost 600W. and i turned up the i7 5820K to an easy 4.0 GHz and turned up the GPU clock a little bit noticing the increased wattage it pulled. but i mean i'm getting a 1000W PSU cause it's a corsair HX. and right now i have a no-name 700W PSU that might day a week or two after warranty. which will doom me later. i wanna play it safe and future proof later and get better cablemanagment and at least 90% effiencency at 600W.
>>53941138
>maximum
Lawd the /v/ spillover is strong.
Now if we were talking something like gpu mining or possibly boincing that would be a relevant stat but for gaming average is the important value unless you have a shanghai street special psu.
>>53941185
Those numbers still assume 100% load on all parts at the same time - something that is extremely unlikely for the overwhelming majority of users. Remember psu's (especially the good ones) are most effecient when approaching max load. So at times a 1kw psu can actually pull more juice from the wall than (say) a 750w unit.
>>53941185
605*1.5~ 900W
You'd want a PSU that's about 1.5 times the total load because the PSU does degrade over time and the peak efficiency of any PSU is between 50-75%. That way, you stay in the peak efficiency curve for most of your system's operation.
>>53941101
Hey, my PSU sucks right now got a 700 No-name PSU from ibuypower. i need a better PSU is wut i'm saying
>>53941221
>peak efficiency of any PSU is between 50-75%
For shit tier units sure. The top quality psu's go much, much higher.
There is a reason why most of EVGA's lineup (iirc) are just rebadged SuperFlower units.
>>53941244
I was actually referring to the Seasonic rebrands that EVGA resells as their SuperNOVA line-up. According to the spec sheets, a G2 model reaches 89-92% efficiency between 50-75% of its maximum rating, where it starts to drop off slightly after 75% to 84% efficiency. Bad PSUs don't have a nearly-flat efficiency curve over most of its operation range and drops like a rock after hitting its peak efficiency.
>>53941218
typical gaming
>/v/
>970
156w
>290
239w
>390
261w
peak gaming
>970
191w
>290
263w
>390
277w
If you think gcn aren't housefire, you are stupid>>53938183
>>53938152
>3. Chelsea - Barcelona 2009 referee
>ref did nothing wrong
fuck off uefalona dick sucking faggot. i come to this board to take my mind of depressing shit like that.
>people expecting much from Polaris and Pascal
AYYYYY
Retards, 2017 will be the year of big performance jump.
The 1080/490X won't make a big jump performance wise.
Have fun paying extra money because "new" cards.
>>53941218
>for gaming average is the important value unless you have a shanghai street special psu.
Read the thread next time
>>53938183
>>53940195
Man made global warming has not been substantiated. Global warming is not, however, fake.
>>53941306
Side note: the msi 390x is a absolute environment killer. That card must have a 400w+ bios given the absurd voltage it runs at.
>>53941358
someone actually saved my screenshot. noice
GP104 - 8 GB GDDR5 CONFIRMED
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-gp104-gpu-leaked/
>>53941388
>dat Zotac GTX980 AMP! Omega Edition
What a beast, OCed and still only draws around 194Watts average.
>>53941435
>Single 8-Pin
>faster than an OC GTX980
GLORIOUS!
AMD will yet again lose.
>>53941435
faster than the 980ti?
>>53941328
you're right
he was wrong when he sent off Abidal
other than that, perfect match
>>53941435
>gddr5
>>53941511
>GTX980 Ti still comes with GDDR5 and is the fastest single card out there
>thinking that you somehow need better memory
Kek
>>53941435
if theyre using faster, more dense gddr5 modules then this gddr5x being a necessity must be a meme. they wont go for standard gddr5 if it was so outdated.
i expect amd to use gddr5 as well since gddr5x modules will cost more and aren't entirely needed. i'm not too knowledgeable about vram but i dont think gddr5 is close to being a bottleneck yet.
>>53941543
There is a reason why Nvidia keeps clocking their ram higher and higher. AMD has gone the other route - slow but wiiiiiiiiiide. Hidemari sketch wide.
>>53941511
GP100 = HBM2
GP104 = GDDR5
GP106 = GDDR5
Vega 10 = HBM2
Poliaris 10 = GDDR5 (X?)
Poliaris 11 = GDDR5 (X?)
>>53941609
wider than your moms vagina
>>53941688
dont be rude. amd's isn't that wide
>>53941348
This. The 1080 will feature new shaders but shitty GDDR5 and will compete a Titan X for ~ 600 €.
>>53941388
It does not matter at all unless you plan to run the card for 10 years. Best deal for price/performance is a used 290X. 980s are too expensive and 970 are shit.
>>53941476
I can't wait to see this on a large scale.
>>53941543
You need it, higher resolutions love more bandwith and these cards are not ment for 1080p anymore.
I hope a single 1080Ti will fit to max out ME:Andromeda in 4K.
>>53942062
>Best deal for price/performance is a used 290X.
Nah, the 290x has never been worth it over the 290. There were some truly outrageous deals on the 290 six months ago when it was getting close to 960 money.
>>53942126
>6 months ago
Anon, 14months ago they were hitting £215/~$250 new. Now that was a steak at the time and I nabbed on of those up even before 3.5 market lies.
>>53942208
Realistically anone whi has sat on hawaii for the last year is left laughing - in some DX12 hawaii is fighting a 980ti and even in DX11 its generally bitch slapping the 980.
Its looking to overtake the 7970 as the godmachine of gpus.
>>53942208
>£215 for a 290
>tfw I got my 980 for £100 more and it's significantly better
Gotta love black friday deals.
>>53942255
Far cry has always benefitted AMD hardware so this is no surprise. I'm surprised the nvidia hardware is so close even at stock. Any vendor oc to those nvidia cards should eliminate the AMD advantage here even at 1440p which generally favours AMD as well.
>>53942361
>meanwhile, in an Nvidia sponsored game
>>53932922
1080 because I run shield tv in the bed room.
Why would I want to reduce a game streamer to a shit roku shitbox?
>>53942384
Any reply to this post is damage control and should be discarded.
>>53942433
It should, how dare we compare release benchmarks to a fully patched game!
>>53932922
You realize the 490X is going to be lower performing than the Fury X right? AMD is a actually finished this time. Who doesn't launch with a high end card?
>>53942480
>b-b-but..
Damage control.
>>53932922
depends on the 1080s DX12 performance. If it's better than AMD then 1080 if it isn't then im gonna stick with my 290 another year.
>>53942384
>>53942480
nigga build 610 was the release version. 616 was the first patch a week later.
Why you do you guys keep posting DX 11 benchmarks? you should be posting DX 12 benchmarks everything is going to be DX 12 now.
>>53942497
polaris 11 is going to be a 232mm2 die so they're not even launching a 490x unless it's yet another rebrand of either hawaii or fiji. vega will probably bring a 600mm2 die and a 400mm2 die to replace those.
it's not looking good... AMD did the same shit last time around with the 285, then took 9 months to bring out their rebrand response to maxwell's high end cards.
>>53938646
Why the hell did nvidishit go with 16nm instead of 14?
>>53941476
>muh efficiency
Who gives a shit? I have no desire for a energy efficient Maxwell Pascal. I'll be waiting for the 1080 Ti for sure.
>>53942819
tsmc 16nm and samsung's 14nm are the same, the difference in nm is just marketing. samsung is even fighting a legal battle because they poached a bunch of TSMC employees in order to develop their process.
>>53942778
I'm pretty sure that I'll get the 1080Ti. It may be expensive as hell but at least its something new. I won't pay for rebrands that can't deliver 4K quality better than cards that were released in 2013.
>>53942819
Because the TSMC 16nm process is more mature and efficient than Samsungs 14nm process. Just look at batterygate, the 16nm chips had better performance and better power efficiency compared to the 14nm chips (which aren't even truly 14nm).
AMD loses again. Sorry to trash your hopes of polaris actually being good, friend.
>>53942860
Holy shit, didnt know that. Do you feel like spoonfeeding me links if you have them?
>>53942900
Dubs confirm :^(
>>53942901
http://bgr.com/2015/10/08/iphone-6s-a9-processor-samsung-tsmc-batterygate/
Don't listen to that guy. They're not the same.
>>53942901
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1325589
>>53942778
>polaris 11 is going to be a 232mm2 die so they're not even launching a 490x unless it's yet another rebrand of either hawaii or fiji.
Polaris 11 is the midrange card you mouthbreathing redneck. Polaris 10 is the high end one, and Vega is the Fury tier.
>>53942819
>>53942860
This. The whole nm thing is marketing, the structues are in fact bigger.
>>53942852
Just because you CAN, it will be a hot (more accurate: cold) competition for AMD. I'm ready for that X80Ti with 2x 8 pin, it will be OC'd to the divine heavens to give me 3x the performance of a Titan X.
>>53942644
Not really, maybe if they release a modded 8.1 with DX12 like the XP version with X11 I heard of. I will join the Linuxfags before I install free spyware.
>>53942958
nigga what? polaris 10 isn't high end, it's going to be used in zen APUs and laptops. we're not even getting it in card form, we're only getting 11 and however many cut versions AMD makes.
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>>53942975
Polaris 9>polaris 10>polaris 11
11= 470, 480(x) etc
10>490, 490(x)
Polaris 9=vega I believe. These are the high end cards.
>>53934583
>>53943046
10= *
>>53942975
Polaris 10 is confirmed to have 256bit bus and 2304 shaders.
And Zen APUs are more than a year away, they'll start with FX and server chips.
>>53943046
WTF nigger?
Polaris 10/11 are confirmed to be 4th gen GCN with GDDR5(+X?).
Vega is not Polaris 9 or Polaris anything, it's just 4th gen GCN with HBM2 memory controllers.
>>53943131
that's even less than hawaii pro had, so unless AMD wants to replace the 390 and 390x with less performant parts we'll likely see polaris 10 replacing the tonga cards.
>Buying 1st gen anything
Why?
Just wait till the good cards come out next year
>>53943132
Fucking relax. Different websites report different things.
>>53943182
>that's even less than hawaii pro had, so unless AMD wants to replace the 390 and 390x with less performant parts we'll likely see polaris 10 replacing the tonga cards.
Less shaders does not equal worse performance. The 6970 had less shaders than the 5870 for example, and was still much faster.
They already stated that 4th gen GCN shaders are more powerful, so at the very least that card will be equal to Hawaii. If that was the card they demoed recently then it'll also have something like 100W power draw.
>>53943188
>waitfag
>>53937824
yes
probably going with AMD in the future, although I play games less and less so I don't know when I'll actually get another GPU
>>53943253
>100W power draw
This is shaping up to be the most boring GPU generation yet.
>>53943352
>most boring GPU generation yet.
maybe so, but at least we'll finally get DP 1.3 (and HDMI 2.0 for AMDfags), h.265 UHD@60fps encode/decode, and other small shit that couldn't be squeezed onto 28nm dies.
I'm going from my elderly GTX 670 to the un- (or least) fused Polaris 10 this summer, then next year maybe go CF or sell it and get a Vega or big Pascal depending on how things go.
28nm lasted 4 years, and I'm expecting 16/14nm to last at least 3, or for 10nm to be underwhelming if it's earlier.
>>53940999
Nothing fully supports dx12 right now.
>>53938024
>nvidia is still afloat
Looks about right to me.
>>53936959
Polaris 11 is the mobile/low endGPU
>>53938183
I would love to have a 295x2
650W what the fuck
>1080 will have barely the same performance of the 980Ti
>490/X will have a pathetically narrow 256bit memory bus and less GCN cores than the 390/X
Whelp, time to kill both Nvidiots and AMDrones
>both AMD and Nvidia are engaging in the power efficiency meme now
Fuck off with this dog shit. Electricity rates are negligible unless you live in some third world shithole.
When's 1060?
>>53942963
>X80Ti with 2x 8 pin, it will be OC'd to the divine heavens to give me 3x the performance of a Titan X
this is what nvidiots actually believe
>>53944939
Even 2x would be OK, 60 FPS at 4K in Mass Effect Andromeda this is all I ever need
>>53944840
you are retarded beyond belief.
its not about fucking electric bills.
it's about thermal limits.
>>53944840
and gayming laptops?
>>53944840
>Europe
>3rd world shithole
Here in Germany I pay 21 per kwh and i assume this is 'cheap' for our standards
>tfw through a series of wheeling and dealan I got a 980 ti for 450 bucks 7 months ago
what's the best $ to value, for a upgrade from a Nvidia 550ti card.
>>53946122
950
>>53946122
EVGA GTX 960 SSC FTW
>>53932922
the 1080 is the obvious choice. AMD have fucked us over far too many times
>shit drivers
>shit performance
>getting cucked by nvidia for games that use gamesworks
>shitter VR support
>no gsync
Is there any reason to go amd at all? Can't wait to get rid of my shitty 290X's and get a glorious 1080 for VR.
>>53946159
there is a 2 or 4gb option. It's about 45 dollar difference. worth it?
>>53938183
as an actual AMD user here with dual 290x reference cards. The amount of heat these things push are is fucking ridiculous. I can feel my room literally heat up by 10 degrees.
>>53946215
What resolution are you playing at and what sort of games.
>>53946272
1920x1080 on a 27 inch. a little of everything in terms of games. stuff like sleeping dogs/SFV/Deus Ex HR/Fall out NV-3-4/witcher/MGS5. it seems this person got a really good deal for >>53946159
170$ i'm getting around 200-250 for the 2/4 gb version online. also thanks for the help
>>53946306
Lol the 960 can't handle intensive games like witcher 3 even at medium. There's a reason the 970 is known as the best price/performance card and is the most used card based on the steam hardware survey. It can handle pretty much all the latest games unless they're unoptimized garbage like quantum break. Get the 970 instead.
>>53946200
>us
>>>/reddit/
>>53946347
>Lol the 960 can't handle intensive games like witcher 3 even at medium.
Bullshit the post, I play on Mostly high settings with an average of 45-55 fps.
>>53946215
Get the 2gb 960, unless you're planning on running two in the future. A single 960 can't use 4gb of vram.
Can someone tell me why people care about power usage? Isn't electricity cheap as fuck anyway for how much gpus consume?
>>53946363
>45-55
This is exactly what I mean. Who is satisfied with such a fluctuating frame rate. That shit makes games unplayable for me. A 970 will give him a consistent 60+ fps for only $50 more.
>>53946371
No. He should get the 4gb. It's known to use the last 2gb as a cache which is always a benefit.
>>53946401
Do the math. If you pay a lot for electricity, an extra hundred watts can mean you pay $14 a year more on your electricity bill.
Who can afford that?
>>53946412
the 970 is about 150$ more. would it be a investment and hold me for a couple years? i've had this 550ti for a while now.
>>53946412>
>$50 more
Well I paid 169.99 for mines so it wasn't 60 bucks more when i bought it but more like +100$ more
also that was 45-55 at 1080p
>>53946433
The 960 isn't a good deal like mines was, get the AMD 380 instead, its superior and only like 6 bucks more.
Any card under $100.
>modern pseudo-game interactive movies that require rendering a fly's pile of shit from 2 miles away at high resolution
Fucking kids.
>>53946401
It's not literally about how much power it uses. If a card uses a lot of power then that means it generates more heat. If a card generates more heat it'll throttle more meaning loss of performance and also the fans will be fucking loud.
There's a reason efficiency is the big thing with Intel, AMD, nVidia etc. The more efficient a piece of hardware is the further it can be pushed compared if it's an inefficient hot mess.
>>53946433
>>53946454
Neither the 960 or 380 are as good as they were before. Games are so taxing now and they're going to be even more taxing come the end of the year. If you really want to keep a card for aslong as you did with the 550 then get atleast a 970/390.
Or you can just wait like 2 months since polaris is widely rumoured to release in june.
>>53946493
>Games are so taxing now
What games? W10 shit? Because other than those piles of unoptimized garbage I haven't played any game that I couldn't run on Medium/High-Ultra at 1080p
>>53946454
never really had a amd. I will just hold off until i can get the 970.
>>53946493
not getting it soon, so i will probably end up seeing what happens when these polaris cards come out maybe. hopefully a price drop for the previous stuff. (doubt it)
>>53946521
I'm not american but isn't this a better deal
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814133620&cm_re=GTX_970-_-14-133-620-_-Product
>>53932922
Nvidia will skip 1080 and go straight to 2080
