Previously: >>53925550
Welcome to /fg/lt/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /fg+lt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
IRC connection details:
Server: chat.freenode.net:6667 (no SSL, 6697 for SSL)
Channel: #flt
If you don't have an IRC client (which you should), go to https://webchat.freenode.net/ to join the webchat.
Do not tick "auth to services" (as you probably don't have a freenode account), choose a nickname, and type "#flt" as the channel.
Google captcha, click "connect", all that.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
> Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
> Font pasta:
General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts
List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface
List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f
Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts
The Ultimate Oldschool PC Font Pack:
http://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/
Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
> Filepicker pasta (GTK2 only!):
Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/
Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/49c1d0eea4b64f24c4c7
>>53932652
>Premade fontconfigs:
>links to the Infinality page
Link it to the actual sample fontconfigs page instead of the bloated, mostly unnecessary "solution".
> Where in the world is Richard Stallman?
President and founder of the Free Software Foundation Richard Stallman has an extensive travel schedule and frequently gives talks about free software all over the world.
If you would like Richard Stallman (RMS) to speak at your event, please contact [email protected].
If you would like RMS to come to your school and speak, try asking professors in IT-related departments if they would like to bring him. They can contact [email protected].
You can find video and audio recordings of many of Dr. Stallman's speeches and lectures at <http://audio-video.gnu.org/>.
11/04/2016 18:30 Athens, Greece Événement Richard Stallman - "Copyrights vs. Community" (Athens, Greece)
12/04/2016 18:00 Athens, Greece Événement Richard Stallman - "Copyright and Free Software Licences" (Athens, Greece)
15/04/2016 19:00 Nantes, France Événement Richard Stallman - "Le logiciel libre et les libertés numériques" - Nantes, France
16/04/2016 17:00 Choisy-le-Roi, France Événement Richard Stallman - "Pour une société numérique libre" (Choisy-le-Roi, France)
25/04/2016 18:00 Nevers, France Événement Richard Stallman - "Copyright vs. Community" (Nevers, France)
25/05/2016 10:00 Tangiers, Morocco Événement Richard Stallman to speak in Tangiers, Morocco
28/05/2016 15:00 Monza, Italy Événement Octet Stream Richard Stallman - "Copyright vs Community" (Monza, Italy)
24/07/2016 13:00 New York, New York Événement Richard Stallman - "Freedom and Privacy in Our Lives, Our Governments and Our Schools" (The Eleventh HOPE, New York, NY)
>install Fedora on an old laptop
>no WiFi drivers
>have to buy a dongle, download a bunch of shit repositories, and download then install some other shit that takes fucking forever on a dongle wifi connection
>all this just to connect to the internet
What total fucking bullshit, I'm sticking with Ubuntu thanks
>>53932815
Or, you know, just use a wired connection like everyone else for 5 minutes.
I'm trying to test out a reverse SSH tunnel on a local connection.
At first I got Connection Refused. Opened the SSH port on the router, now the connection just times out.
I'm using this command to open up the tunnel:ssh -fNR 5000:localhost:22 myuser@myclientip
What have I missed?
>>53932815
Works for me, when debian didn't. My dongle is fast and works in Fedora. It doesn't work in freetard distros. Fedora includes firmware in its kernel for nonfree hardware.
>installing fedora
>takes half an hour to finally get stuck and stop moving
>say fuck it and download lubuntu
>installs in 10 minutes
nice meme dips
>>53932889
You're lying, Fedora installs faster than Ubuntu.
>>53932815
> dongle
I hate this word and everyone that uses it. Can you not just call it a wireless Ethernet transceiver?
Also I hear they've recently developed a physical replacement for good old WiFi, where you can plug a WLAN cable into your computer and it'll work just like wireless, just with a wireless. I like to call it wired WLAN.
>>53932902
Fuck off RH shill.
>>53932902
not when it hangs so I have to restart the installation for it to move
>>53932910
canonical shill
>>53932914
You probably copied the iso wrong.
>>53932920
Which one is you?
>>53932930
me on the left
>>53932926
I made a multi-iso shit with YUMI so I'd be surprised if one worked and the other one didn't
>>53932907
>>53932822
WLAN is nice but I'd like to take the laptop around without the added inconvenience of a big shitty cable
>>53932930
you can leave your hat on
Which linux distro has the most proficient, the most competent. users?
>>53932950
You have to use dd, or a disk imager if on windows. Programs for making a usb drive do not work for Fedora.
Don't use Fedora though, we don't want your kind.
>>53932992
gentoo
>>53932992
Gentoo/Funtoo
https://static.fsf.org/nosvn/FSF30-video/FSF_30_720p.webm
>>53932992
The one I'm using.
>>53933045
>>53933060
I thought slackware users tend to be more seasoned.
Yo, what's the best tiling WM for a shitty netbook(1366x768)?
>>53933112
Any of them will run fine.
>>53932992
Pardon, but I'd just like to interject for a short while. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU + Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully working GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by GNU.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
how to list all groups on the system?
$ groups
only shows the groups the user is in
>>53933136
cat /etc/group
>>53933082
God their servers are absolute shit for streaming.
are there any alternatives to debian netinstall that do basically the same thing?
>>53933110
I used Slackware myself, but I honestly preferred Gentoo (and nowadays Funtoo). Portage is literally the best package manager ever.
>>53933166
Worked fine here.
>>53933175
>he fell for the gentoo meme
>>53933082
50% loaded this since you posted it.
>>53933200
Using youtube-dl it is 60% done for me.
>>53933175
I actually installed gentoo in a vm.
And I was suprised that compiling all the stuff didnt take as long as I expected it to take.
Needing 20-40 minutes inside a vm to compile a kernel is decent imo.
The thing is just that my knowledge is too limited to make proper use of the useflags.
how do i set ssh to administer another computer from time to time
afai understand i should
1 _ create a new user on that other pc
2 _ add him to the wheel group
3 _ ssh with that new user @ thatpc
>>53933704
>1 _ create a new user on that other pc
Why not use an existing one?
>2 _ add him to the wheel group
On some distributions that doesn't do anything, as long as you don't have sudo and allowed members of "wheel" to do everything.
>3 _ ssh with that new user @ thatpc
Yes, but you have to install and start the ssh daemon on that computer first.
>>53933704
Install openssh-server on the remote machine
Install openssh-client on the machine you're using
If port 22 isn't locked down on the remote machine it should just work if you log in as an existing user
>Mint works fine and there's no reason to move, if there's bloat i have the system resources to ignore it (to my knowledge have not hit 100% CPU or RAM usage once, or even been over 50% often.)
>feel the urge to move anyway even though i don't know what to use next (although arch/gentoo are tempting) just so i can put the thing together myself.
is this normal
>>53933812
Mint is shit, so yeah.
So I've seen a bunch of people shitting on mint recently. What's wrong with mint?
>>53934033
nothing
its just too outdated by now
wait for the next release when ubunato 16.04 comes around
>>53934033
It got hacked a little ways back and is seen as unreliable.
>>53934068
>hacked
lol, get the fuck off my board, tech illiterate
>>53934033
- based on Ubuntu 14.04LTS (2 years old base)
- it's a Distro based on a Distro (Ubuntu) that's based on another Distro (Debian)
- it has questionable security policies, like not installing kernel updates by default
- the developers don't give a shit about libre software or the ethics of shipping nonfree stuff by default
- the developers don't take existing projects like KDE for their main DE, noooo they have to make their own stuff
all in all it seems like they are making MS Linux the distro, and I find that a huge turnoff. In my opinion:
Debian > Ubuntu > Mint
can i set up a bleeding edge distro so that certain important things are kept on stable because i don't want them fucked up, but most shit isn't?
>>53934164
>- the developers don't give a shit about libre software or the ethics of shipping nonfree stuff by default
>- the developers don't take existing projects like KDE for their main DE, noooo they have to make their own stuff
true of ubuntu too
Hey there! Got a question for the Linux crowd.
So I got this netbook (a Fujitsu m2010) for free, and so far i've been enjoying it for some light web browsing, reading pdf's and playing ascii roguelikes. Now I'm running windows 10 on it as of now, but I tried a fair share of linux distros, before finaly setting on windows, the reason being major issues with the wifi/airlplane-mode physical switch. Now I tried all the given solutions to that issue but could not get it to work, I ended up even switching the wireless chips to no avail, ethernet connections worked just fine, but given this is a small laptop I feel like having wifi is a must. I was getting IRQ9 error messages on the boot menu, and the only thing that would fix those was setting the grub file to include the "acpi=off" option, now I suspect that being related one and another. I looked up for BIOS updates but i already got the last one it seems. I kinda forgot about such a letdown, but today I tried to setup a TAILS boot usb and got stuck with the same messages.
Should I acept I'm not gonna be able to install any distros on this thing? Does anyone here have an idea of something else I could try? Perhaps flashing the bios of another fujitsu netbook or something wild like that?
>>53934109
>friendly gnu/linux thread
>>>/b/, kid
>>53932952
>for 5 minutes.
You use the ethernet connection to download the wifi drivers
>>53934278
I am by no means very knowledgeable on that topic but here's my limited opinion:
IRQ9 is commonly used by the ACPI and the option you use seems to disable a kernel module. I don't imagine that the kernel is too different between different linux distros so you might have to use that option for every OS that uses the linux kernel. So you'd need to modify the bootloader as you did with grub.
Also what exactly do you mean by switiching the wireless chips?
One thing I would try is to play around with the BIOS settings, BIOS can be quite buggy.
my current bios will lock me out of the bios menu if i change a certain option.
As a last attempt I'd also try to reset CMOS, consult your manual or google online for how its done.
>>53934524
>to disable a kernel module
Meant it disables the acpi kernel module.
I have an issue with playonlinux.
Whenever I try to play a game, if I launch the game, then I launch other programs (mumble, music player...) I will be able to have the sound of the game, but everything else will be muted. Even the mic will not work.
And if I try to launch my programs, then launch the game with playonlinux, everything will work perfectly but not playonlinux that will be muted.
I'm already had this bug one year ago, but can't remember how did I fixed this. Anyone got an idea ?
>>53933186
>thinking it's a meme
>>53933082
>the Free Software movement produced the GNU/Linux system
still trying to claim ownership of the Linux kernel, I see
>>53934524
Thanks for the insight! I've been checking the bios. But it offers little to no settings besides passwords and boot order, so I think I'm sorta stuck on that area. My main concern is not being able to connect to any network via wireless, but I take it that that's unrelated to booting with acpi=off now...
And by the wifi chip I mean I swapped the component inside the laptop for some spare ones I had to try those, because I came across people saying the one installed by default was quite troublesome.
>install hardened Gentoo
>use musl since glibc is a bloated heap of shit with vulnerabilities sprinkled through it like mouse shit in Stallman's house
>literally every package needs patches to replace ganoo glibc compiler specific AIDS in the source files
You stupid GNU faggots need to just fucking kill yourselves.
>>53935299
>try to use a shell script
>it's full of bash-isms
yeah honestly i feel like they're trying to break as much compatibility as possible in order to gain dominance
>>53935326
>Bash
Those fucking cocksuckers, holy shit. It's worse than Microsoft's shenanigans. Bloated GNU shit is like cancer spreading through the Linux userland. They're even trying to take credit for the entire operating system. Fucking GNUnian "refugees."
>>53935371
its just so highly ironic coming from an organization headed by the guy who named the POSIX standard
i know this is a linux thread, but if you really want to get away from GNU AIDS that desperately, check out the BSDs
question: who pays open source hosting ? I mean, services like npm or linux packages must be pretty expensive to host, right ? who pays that bill ?
>>53935256
I suppose that the driver for your chipset is loaded?
Your device is recognised?
And that its not hard- or softblocked?
If you can say yes to all three then I'd check dmesg for any issues. Anything above that beats me.
If you need help checking anything of what I said, then don't hesitate to ask. But bear with me I'm not too familiar with linux myself.
>>53935397
even then that won't save you because in the few cases you'll have to compile your own shit,you're gonna need gmake
even their fucking makefiles are incompatible
>>53935427
donations, sometimes from big corporations
>>53935397
How's support for those? I just want a nice, secure, lightweight operating system I can carry on my flash drive so I can watch shit on my work laptop when I'm out of the office. Last time I installed OpenBSD everything worked, but I don't know if video hardware decoding works with Intel chips. I also never figured out how to use the ports system, so I was installing everything manually, which kind of sucked.
>>53935442
>makefiles not good enough, have to make a separate fucking ganoo make program
Don't even fucking get me started on their stupid fucking mandoc replacement. GANOO info or whatever the FUCK.
>>53935442
that seems like a really shitty buisiness model, though I cant think of a better one
(shitty like in the whole service dies if people stop donating)
>>53935457
intel seems generally well supported on BSDs
the older the hardware, the better, obviously
as for the packages, try reading the documentation, the two most popular BSDs have good documentation and package managers
>>53935489
>two most popular BSDs
Is one of them OpenBSD? I heard Free keeps using outdated shit from Open. I went with hardened Gentoo in the first place because it was so easy to update my system to keep up with security patches.
Last time I used OpenBSD, the process creation performance was terrible.
>>53935516
yeah, the majority of users use FreeBSD and OpenBSD.
the pf firewall is the truly outdated part that FreeBSD uses
the big disadvantage about OpenBSD is that there are no binary security updates, you have to patch and recompile parts of it, unless you use m:tier
if you're willing to patch it yourself, the patches normally come with instructions so it's not THAT bad
The new GTK 3 file chooser is so fucking awful, they literally made it worse than before.
Is there a signal that it emits that can be overridden to replace it with something else? I don't want to patch GTK
>>53935676
I hate the placement of the choosing button, my cursor is never anywhere near it. Took me a back the first time.
>>53935747
I hate that single clicking on a file in the dialog renames the current filename, so fucking stupid.
I'm just going to try to remain a simple patch with upstream via the ABS, shouldn't be too time consuming.
>>53935768
s/remain/maintain
Maybe a dumb question but I've used Linux for a long time and ever since I've had nvidia cards I've used the official driver
Just got to wondering how much progress( if any) has been made on the Nouveau driver because it's kinda shit atm and makes my card overheat and if there is any hope of it ever being good?
>>53935849
It's still garbage. The radeon driver however, is awesome. And no, there is no hope.
>>53935849
If nvidia decided to open source their shit, then yes, it'd be great. Otherwise, it's just a matter of the nouveau devs making their best attempt to reverse-engineer everything.
>>53933271
USE flags are a very simple concept, and it's pretty straight forward to setup. The docs have a good explanation of how to use them (global USE flags in /etc/portage/make.conf, per-application USE flags in /etc/portage/package.use). If a USE flag is missing, portage will complain before starting to compile.
On modern hardware, compiling is pretty fast for most things (Chromium, LibreOffice and Firefox are pretty slow, still), and if you have multiple systems you can instruct portage to create binpkgs you can use on other systems, and you can setup distcc to compile using multiple machines.
>>53933186
>He was mentally incapable to read a single page of documentation to figure out how to setup Gentoo
>>53935849
>I've used Linux for a long time
What version?
>modified bsd license is nonfree
FSF are fascists.
>>53935086
>Free Software movement
>implying Linux itself is not Free Software
You are a special kind of stupid.
>>53936009
BSD license is a cuck license anyway.
>allowing a company to take your free code, make it propritary, and sell it back to you
>>53936034
haha cuck xD
>>53936021
Actually Linux is violating the GRL since years by adding nonfree blobs. Linus himself doesn't stand for the free software ideals; he's actually a Open Source cuck.
>>53936056
>GRL
Thanks for proving the point.
>Linus himself doesn't stand for the free software ideals
Yeah, but you're talking about Linux, not Linus. Linux is a Free Software project.
Just stop posting, you're clearly too retarded.
>>53936034
The modified BSD license prevents that, and it's considered nonfree. While the cuck BSD license is considered free. The modified license contains a non-commercial use clause, essentially making it useless to any corporation to use it. But since a corporation can't use it, debian and fedora both keep software under it out of their repos. Bceause "corporations are people too" even though they're not. The only negative thing I can find about that license is if someone wanted to sell a laptop with the software included but wasn't able to with the license. I think it's a good license.
>>53936034
GPL is an indian giver license.
>giving something away and then demanding it back when they improve it
>>53936104
Nice advanced shitposting.
So what exactly is "free as in beer". I've never gotten beer for gratis. I had to pay 26 dollars for this beer I'm drinking right now. (Canada has very high tax on beer).
Where does all this imaginary free beer exist?
>>53936269
You have to have a vagina
>>53936425
better without loop
>>53936478
So here the source.convert rms.png -crop 450x10 miff:- | convert -delay 10 - -loop 1 out.gif
The size geometry I got viaidentify rms.png
Is it possible to directly read the height part of rms.png with imagemagick to save the identify-step?
Why are my neighbors salways talking about me? Everytime I go outside or go near a window, I hear them bad mouthing me. How can they be so obsessed?
The main reason I use linux is because I'm worried about everyone spying on me. Apparently I'm interesting enough thta people hate me even if they don't know me.
Yes I've been drinking.
Anyone else paranoid about stuff all of the time and use linux?
>>53936624
>>53936645
Yes, I did.
>>53936624
Do you live in a capital city? It's nice. People don't care about each others. You basically vanish in the mass. Feels anonymous man. Also: Prost!
Is Antegros(arch) or actually any good?
I was thinking of making a little guide on how to install visual novels on GNU/Linux. Should I write it in Markdown or just make an infographic image?
polite sage
Is Antegros /flt/-approved or not?
>>53936583
you can omit part of the resolution and imagemagick can figure it out internallyconvert rms.png -crop x10 miff:-
this is also useful when doing resizes while maintaining aspect ratio
So I tried to install xubuntu alongside W10 again. So this time I chose to boot the Usb drive in the UEFI mode this time, but it gave me an error, somewhat along the lines of: detected another operating system, in compability mode, uefi installation could result in problems
Should I try to install it in bios mode again? It gave me problems last time. Only difference now is that I installed w7 first and then upgraded to 10
>>53937045
use whatever the fuck you want
>>53936624
Niggas be talking shit about you. Call now
12133734253
>>53937348
01189998819999197253
>>53937379
fuck, my memory has failed me.
it's actually:
01189998819991197253
>>53937298
Yes but I want to know if /g/approves antegros
>>53937420
the fuck is that supposed to mean?
>>53937420
officially /g/ disaproves of any arch installer/distro other than doing it the arch way. unofficially, official /g/ is autism personified and should be ignored
>>53937218
So simple ... Thank you!
Have a mandelbrot: ffplay -f lavfi -i mandelbrot
>>53937420
Nope.
/g/ officially and objectively trashes garbage distros built on top of garbage distros.
Are you happy now?
>>53936624
take your meds.
>>53936987
the first choice for now.
how can i fix this? the sound inside the VM is fucked up too.
>>53937551
did you install your graphics drivers
>>53937551
Which distro?
Install your graphics card's drivers.
>>53937551
Looks like 16bit colors. Change to 24bit.
>>53937563
>>53937564
i think i already installed it. how do i check once again?
>>53937564
>graphics card
>vm
>>53937446
>>53937535
But why does /g/ hate everything?
>>53937590
Why would you think the virtual machine does not require graphics drivers?
>>53937590
The VM uses hardware acceleration, powered by the host hardware's GPU.
>>53937583
Which distro, once again?
Anyone installed Arch in VMware lately? Kind of ground to a halt here and the wiki isn't giving me any clues.
Installed the base system with no problems. Installed xorg, xfce, et al. Installed the open vmware tools, started vmtoolsd, etc all done according to the wiki.
Currently stuck in 640x480 when I launch xfce and have no idea what's up.
>>53937623
Ubuntu 14.04 trusty
check pic related
>>53937722
Try the latest NVIDIA drivers. Nouveau is nice, but it isn't really good when it comes to hardware acceleration.
>>53937722
it was ok some minutes ago. i dont know what happened
I'm glad you guys took my advice and started calling it Friendly GNU+Linux Thread
>>53937823
Now people search "Friendly Linux Thread" and get no results.
At least include that in the god damn OP so it can act as a "tag".
>>53937843
You're right; it should just be called Friendly GNU Thread
>>53937859
But this is not a thread about GNU.
Hello everyone.
I have been using Mint in my desktop about a year now and i think i wanna try some other "it werks distro" (have also checked out Lubuntu,Xubuntu and Ubuntu back inna day when i was not using them and they are much better nowdays).
I have old acer mini laptop that i planned to put Lubuntu on it (have been using my bootable Puppy SD card in it from time to time) and then my main desktop machine witch have been running Mint i planned to replace it with Xubuntu or Ubuntu mate.
Is Xubuntu or ubuntu mate "better" than mint?
Any tips or suggestions would be appriciated.
Thanks.
>>53937885
It's not a thread about the Linux kernel.
I recently got debian, and the wifi adapter I used on ubuntu, Netgear WNA1000M, which was plug n play on Ubuntu, doesn't work with Debian. I can't connect a ethernet cable to my PC as my router is across the house, and I cannot walk ATM. I am dual booting with Windows 7, and have the firmware packages for the adapter on a USB, but IDK how to install it on Debian, as the tutorial just says to use "install firmware packages" in Terminal. Help?
>>53937911
Oh, it is.
>>53937886
Save yourself the time and just stick with Mint. I've dual booted mint + other distros for over a year, trying to find something that performed better or even on par with mint. After much searching, I've simply come to the conclusion that Mint is the best distro for me.
I hope this helps.
>>53937924
No it's not.
>>53932581
Why do you insist on calling it GNU/Linux ?
There are distros that do not use GNU like Alpine Linux
All that various Linux distros share is the Linux kernel so it makes sense to call it Linux. Not all of them use GNU
Linus Torvalds:
> calling Linux in general "GNU Linux" I think is just ridiculous
Jim Gettys, originator of XFree86
>There are lots of people on this bus; I don't hear a clamor of support that GNU is more essential than many of the other components; can't take a wheel away, and end up with a functional vehicle, or an engine, or the seats. I recommend you be happy we have a bus.
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Can we stop with this shitty GNU meme?
It's LINUX. Everyone except /g/ austists still use "GNU/Linux" name
Pic. related
>>53937915
Install firmware-nonfree
>>53937974
install gentoo
>>53938013
No thanks, because it sucks.
>>53938006
I can't connect to wifi on Debian, nor with a ethernet cable.
Keep on complaining and I'll name the next thread GNU Operating System Thread.
>>53937942
Yeah i like Mint a lot...i have to put my win7 partition in check. (i have pirated win coz them cocksmokers didn't even give me a fucking ISO although i ha ligid windows 7 ultimate (non OEM) ) and then my key did.t work in that particular iso so now i got my own win disks.
>>53938054
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
>Linux is a Unix-like and mostly POSIX-compliant computer operating system (OS)
Try to edit that Wikipedia article to "GNU Linux" and get laughed at and banned from Wikipedia
GNUfags BTFO
>>53938076
Just edit it to say
>Linux is part of a Unix-like and mostly POSIX-compliant computer operating system (OS)
>>53938052
Why not?
What does it say? Usually ur Ethernet will work out of the box broski
>>53938133
My router is across the house, don't have a cable that long enough, and I cannot walk right now.
I am this >>53937886 guy.
Hey can someone tell me is there a better distro than Lubuntu or puppy to shit tier laptops?
i have Acer aspire one 2g ram and some atom CPU in it.
>>53938147
Idk then desu
Try downloading it on other computer then installing from usb
>>53938166
I have the firmware on my USB right now. How do I install it on Debian?
>>53937974
>Why do you insist on calling it GNU/Linux ?
Because we are educated /g/ents.
>There are distros that do not use GNU like Alpine Linux
There are distros that don't use Linux like Arch Hurd.
>All that various Linux distros share is the Linux kernel so it makes sense to call it Linux. Not all of them use GNU
Why are you repeating yourself?
Linus Torvalds:
>Sadly, a kernel by itself gets you nowhere. To get a working system you
need a shell, compilers, a library etc. These are separate parts and may
be under a stricter (or even looser) copyright. Most of the tools used
with linux are GNU software and are under the GNU copyleft.
> http://ftp.funet.fi/pub/linux/historical/kernel/old-versions/RELNOTES-0.01
RMS, founder of the GNU Operating System
> "I've done your mother."
>Can we stop with this shitty GNU meme?
No because people should realize that the GNU Operating System was created so people can have freedom in computing and that it's not a hobby project, made just for fun.
>It's LINUX. Everyone except /g/ austists still use "GNU/Linux" name
People who call it "Linux" are usually persons who don't have much knowlege about technology in general.
Pic. related
>>53938298
it wasn't linus that chose to use the gnu coreutils on most distros though
>>53938298
The anon who made this picture did gods work.
>>53937974
The anon who made this picture reminds me a bit of /pol/'s disinfographics
>>53937538
I'm already fucking taking every month an injection of abilify/ I don't think it works.
>>53937734
Just installed the latest one.
>restart
>see this for literally 14 minutes
>>53938947
CTRL+ALT+F1
check what's going on
How do I unidiotify ubuntu?
I wanna give it a fair chance, and actually try it for real, because all in all, it doesnt feel too bad in a live boot, and since KDE is dead (again...), I might as well try something else.
But there is just some stuff, that totally puts me off, and it is not just that amazon-botnet.
Stuff like, when trying their graphical package manger (>muh appstore), because apt-get has the worst syntax ever, it cant find shit, until you realize that really, really small >show system tools at the bottom, that you have to click every single time to actually find anything besides candy crush tier shit, or that utterly retarded idea to have a mac-like menu bar, that you then use to just waste screen space by just displaying the name of the program, instead of the usual menu_view_settings_whatever, that you only get when mousing up, or the fucked up alt+tab implementation.
Is that shit fixable? Is there an easy script, or do I really have to dig into ubuntus settings menus?
>>53939160
Debian.
>>53939119
Already did. Can't figure it out. Tried startx but still it doesn't boot up.
>mfw my midterms are this week starting from Monday with SE
>>53939168
Nah.
>>53939259
Why not?
>>53938150
Antergos, Or just straight up Arch
>>53937420
Antergos is a solid distro, it's more of an arch installer than anything.
/g/ hates anything Arch or rolling release so you won't find the answer you're looking for here
Whoever suggested me Nomac yesterday when the whole discussion about the image viewer took place -- thank you so much, it really is a great little viewer. What fucks me up a little bit however, is that there is no default shortcut to show/hide the Menu; so once you hide it's basically gone.
Also I think there's an issue with assigning multiple keys to the same action -- or maybe it is just me. Anyways, thanks!
>>53939460
>or rolling release
/g/ loves Gentoo, they just hate Arch because it's actually not that great of a distro. People hail it as "minimalistic" and "customizable", when it is neither. Arch offers nothing beneficial over other distros.
>>53939507
Of course anon, good arguments. "Because it isn't" -- I am convinced.
>>53939381
I dont like the "idea" behind debian-pure, and I'm also not the target audiance.
If I want to go fretard, I stay with fedora, which has served me well so far, but since KDE is fucked up again, and gnome never has been anything else, and all the small DE's are too much work, I figured I might as well give the ubuntu-meme a spin, but it seems like that also requires some work to make it usable, the question is just: how much work?
>>53939460
Kewl. I am installing it right now. Just downloaded.
>>53939540
Debian isn't restricted to free software.
>>53939507
Explain your reasoning.
>>53939540
Ubuntu is literally Debian, just more out-of-the-boxable
>>53937915
>>53938230
sudo dpkg -i thefile.deb
>>53938298
> Most of the tools used with Linux are gnu software and are under the gnu copyleft
Is this even still true anymore?
I did mkfs.ext4 on my USB drive but when I do fdisk -l it says it's type W95 FAT32(LBA)
When I try to do mkfs though it says it's an ext4 files system.
What do?
>>53938947
It's Ubuntu
That's likely the problem.
>>53932815
>installing the operating system before finding a solution that works in the live environment
>>53938298
i would be a lot less bothered by truncating the GNU/ if linux wasn't named after an individual
especially since even linus originally conceded it was egotistical and wanted to call it something else.
Am i the only one who thinks KDE is ugly as hell?
is going from a debian netinst to a "working" system a reasonable learning experience for someone who started using linux yesterday?
>>53940444
"no" as in "too hard" or as in "fuck off that's easy"?
>>53940468
No means No
>>53940419
netinstall is a working system though.
but no, take it slow. there's no reason to rush and sour yourself on gnu/linux so fast.
you wouldn't guzzle on a good beer or cup of coffee would you?
What's the nicest looking cursor to use? I'm currently using Menda and I'm not a fan of how sometimes it's green and other times it's orange. It should just be one colour.
>>53937974
Actually, without shit like seats and the body, the car would still be a functional mode of transportation..
>>53940571
adwaita
>>53940419
What does working system mean?
In my opinion the best time to try new distros is when you're new to linux. You don't have much distro specific knowledge and you haven't migrated all your shit over from Windows yet so trying a new distro has low cost.
>>53939160
sudo apt-get install synaptic
>>53937538
It's finally done.
https://neetco.de/apt-get/visual-novel-linux-guide/src/master/README.md
It's a pretty general guide, but I think it's enough to install most visual novels painlessly.
If anyone has anything to add, please reply! I'll try to include it in the guide tomorrow.
>>53940468
No as in it'll fuck your shit up, and it's a bad choice.
You'll always be using outdated shit and apt is garbage.
Just go with Arch if you want to learn and do things yourself.
>>53940704
good job anon, don't much play vns, but i'll give one a shot with this guide
>>53940324
GNU/Freax
How the fuck do I back up my files properly from a broken system?
>>53939160
>>53940681
This. Synaptic is a very easy to use utility that allows you to search for and install packages.
>>53940759
rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} / /path/to/backup/folder
>>53940391
Nope. Well, out of the box at least. All other DEs seem to look better without ricing.
best lightweight terminal?
>>53938147
>can't walk right now
take the dragon dildo out of your butt then go plug in the ethernet cable
>>53940704
Hey, this is really cool! Thank you -- I'm just waiting for the raging retard to come along and shit all over people using WINE like yesterday.
>>53940826
But then don't I need to fix file permissions?
I tried to backup my shit from /Home with cp to USB but it not werk and was giving file permissions error
Any way to get Xorg 1.18 on 15.10?
>>53940941
Which filesystem are you using on your USB?
Why should I run sabnznbd as a systemd service? That seems... I don't know dumb? The AUR package apparently expects you to do that, but why not just run it as my regular user?
I suppose that setup would make sense if I wanted to run sabnzbd on a multi-user system constantly or on some headless system without X?
Need internet connection to install wpa_supplicant from flash drive? Why?
>>53940981
That's the other problem I posted above...
I formatted it to ext4(I think) but it says it's FAT32 on fdisk YET says ext4 on mkfs
>>53940984
I think I just realised something, dependencies. Why does wpa_supplicant have any dependencies though fml, I'll have to download every dependency and install them first, right?
>>53940984
>>53941018
Try using a non-hipster distro that respects your time and comes with the packages you want already.
>>53941005
Please respond someone.
Should I go full MADMAN and do LFS
>>53940984
>what is chroot
looks like you're just dumb
>>53934578
Try using a pure Wine, compiled from source and not Play On Linux. I could never get shit to work using that damn thing and I always had to resort to compiling Wine and getting things running that way.
>>53941162
Why use wine when you can seamlessly run software trough virtualbox windows with saved state after boot and all debloated shit trough WinConn
>>53941188
Performance can be a lot worse in a VM, especially if you dont have gpu passthrough. Also, VirtualBox is pretty poor, if you want to virtualize, use kvm/qemu.
>>53939983find /usr/share/doc/ -iname copyright -exec grep License\: {} \; | wc -l
35997find /usr/share/doc/ -iname copyright -exec grep License\: {} \; | grep GPL | wc -l
15195find /usr/share/doc/ -iname copyright -exec grep License\: {} \; | cut -d':' -f2 | cut -d'-' -f1 | cut -d'_' -f1 | sort | uniq -c | sort -nk1
...
929 Expat
960 FreeBSD (guessed)
986 BSD (guessed)
1121 ICU
2681 Apache
5312 BSD
6248 GPL
7823 LGPL
Are you sure that you partitioned it correctly? Use something like cfdisk /path/to/device for a nice interface. Delete everything, create an ext4 linux partition used new, set bootable flag, write changes, quit. mkfs.ext4 /path/to/device/partition-you-just-made.
>>53941217
Oh he said gayming, I don't care about gayming, performance is more than amazing for my OCR software and Microsoft Office, gaymers should dual boot.
>>53941231
Did that desu.
I can't even mount it now.
Fdisk -l is showing that's it's Type Linux and all. Not really sure what to do now kek
>>53941252
That sounds good at least.
What does it say when you do
mount /path/to/device/partition-number /mnt
>>53941246
Gamers should stop giving money to incompetent devs that refuse to build software for all platforms. I'd prefer them just releasing sources so everyone could build it for their own platform, but I don't think that'll happen anytime soon. Not even if done with a very strict license.
>>53941217
>Also, VirtualBox is pretty poor, if you want to virtualize, use kvm/qemu.
Ok then what virtulization should I use for just software, never games - and I think never video editing software, I could just dual boot for that shit if I really needed it.
>>53941275
>if you want to virtualize, use kvm/qemu
>>53941262
I just did mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb and noe it doesn't have any partitions at all... Uh ok
>>53941283
I won't use that software just becae anon said use it, it's like installing Chrome now because someone assured me it's the only non bot-net browser.
Need arguments, each virtualization software is good for something, can't have all in one.
>>53941290
Don't do that. You create partitions and then create a filesystem for that partition. You basically run mkfs.ext4 on the whole disk -- that won't work/I assume scramble your data.
Repartition it and run mkfs.ext4 /device/partitionumber -- for example:
/dev/sda1
Check what I said word for word again and follow the instructions.
>>53941299
- Very small overhead
- Free as in freedom
- Can use whatever GUI frontend you prefer, or none if you don't need one
- Can be setup to start/suspend VMs on system boot/shutdown
- Can use LVM storage backend (and a LOT more)
- Can be managed remotely via a GUI or CLI
- Can be managed locally via GUI or CLI
- Not tied to a single GUI
- Can emulate pretty much every cpu you can imagine
>>53941309
Ok I messed up anyway I did fdisk /dev/SDB and it says "device contains a valid 'ext4' signature; it is strongly recommended to wipe the device with wipefs(8) if this is unexpected to avoid possible collisions"
>>53941338
So to recap, wipe the entire disk. Partition it with cfdisk. Make the filesystem with mkfs.ext4 on the partition you want to.
For example /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 (based on your layout). Do not run it directly on /dev/sda.
You should really follow the Arch Linux tutorial a bit more closely.
Trying to understand why this theme isn't applied correctly to certain programs.
Distro is Fedora 23, DE is Xfce and the theme is https://github.com/horst3180/arc-theme, installed from the repo provided.
>>53941338
I don't think you have to wipe it to change partition label
>>53941374
That's uh really strange -- the borders should be provided by your Windowmanager, and thus all use the same theme. I'm not sure what this application is doing to avoid that
>>53941382
Perhaps I should clarify - it's actually most applications that aren't working with the theme and the Archive Manager program is just the first one I found that does work.
>>53941374
>>53941382
Might be that you're styling gtk applications (looks like you're using lxappearance), but the other application is using Qt as framework.
>>53941413
Okay, I think I solved it - there was theme selections under the Window Manager section where it had a different theme selected. Thanks.
>>53941359
Hmm
Ok I've done that, it seems to mount desu
>>53941530
It gives me permission error when I try to cd into one of the folders that I copied over to it
>>53941530
Good. Now follow the Beginner's Guide or you will fail miserably.
The next steps are thusly: bootstrap your arch linux install, by using pacstrap and installing the base and optionally base-devel packages into your /mnt prefix. Generate your fstab and output it into /mnt/etc/fstab
Then change the root environment using arch-chroot, set up the system essentials: hostname, timezone, locale, install grub on your linux disk (not a partition, i.e. /dev/sda for example), set the root passwd.
Exit and reboot, create your regular user, passwd the acc. Then setup your actual system, i.e. drivers, WM/DE, apps.
>>53941546
FOLLOW THE BEGINNERS GUIDE. Seriously.
You can also orient yourself with this: http://www.linuxveda.com/2016/02/08/the-always-up-to-date-guide-to-install-arch-linux/5/ if it's really too much to read for you. But make sure to check around various sources.
>>53941332
Ever since you wrote that I wasted time researching - there are pretty much 0 guides, everyone excepts you to be a sys admin with years of experience... are you sure it's worth all this wasted time just to run Microsoft office?
From my research XEN would be the best followed by KVM, but XEN is hard as fuck to configure.
>>53941672
You can run Office in WINE or just use Libre Office.
>>53941713
I just discovered CrossOver, and there's a working crack for it on Linux.
Just going to use that... it is the most lowed among reviews and it's optimized for running such software.
I'm trying to run a VM with VirtualBox in Manjaro, but I'm getting the error "Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)"
It tells me to type '/sbin/rcvboxdrv setup' into the terminal, but that directory doesn't exist.
I tried searching it and all I found is people on Ubuntu with this problem who were missing a dependency that I already have.
What do
>>53941051
I fixed it in like 5 minutes
>>53941156
I used pacstrap instead
Gnome doesn't work, halp plz
>pic related journalctl gnome-session entries
I literally scrolled for like 10 minutes to find these entries
>>53942156
Screen I get when starting gdm
what the fuck happened to /g/ ? Really? Fucking safe spaces for retards who cant go read any of the excellent books on gnu linux?? "Im too lazy to read anything over a paragraph because my attentition span is 2 seconds, but I wanna use gnu/linux!! Got it, ill make a retard safe space!!!"
And you have absolute downies actually switching from windows even though they have bo reason, then begging to know how to play le video games!!! Incredible stuff, honestly a disgrace.
I remember when we told 10 second attention span 80 iq plebbitors to fucking read and fuck off, now we give them a safe space to be ignorant, b r a v o
>mfw
>>53942156
>I literally scrolled for like 10 minutes
What is grep?
>>53942190
I'm new to arch, plz don't bully me for doing retarded stuff, I come from ubuntu gnome.
>>53942202
It wasn't bullying, it was telling you how to use your computer in the 4chan way.
>>53942214
So, will you now help me with gnome?
>>53942223
I don't use that trash, but the messages seem to be complaining about not finding nvidia drivers.
Can you start X (try something likeX `which xterm`
It appears you're not set up to be able to use Wayland. The best way to find out what's wrong is to just Google the error messages, lol
>>53942188
>image.jpg
>>53942156
try this
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GDM#Use_Xorg_backend
