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>>53928814
>Murata
Noice
>>53928850
Isn't it a bit early for a bump? The old thread hit bump limit about two hours ago and it is still only half way down the catalog.
>>53928850
The fuck are you doing?
Sage just for you.
>Location: Australia
>Budget: $1000AU
I know this isn't strictly thread relevant but it's the best place to ask.
I'm looking at getting an integrated amp and the Cambridge SR20 pops up as a good offer. It has a tuner, a wolfson 8728, digital in, and throws out 100w per channel. For $750 AU it seems like a great deal. Especially considering I need a headphone amplifier as my current system is limited to the outputs of my pc, and I'm looking to add a pair of 600ohm dt880.
What does /hpg/ think? Can I do better for the money? Or less?
>>53929037
>Cambridge SR20
>S/N ratio (ref 1W)>82dB(unweighted)
Wut?
Hey guys, I would much appreciate some advice.
Trying to buy some closed back headphones with a $130 budget, and I've been looking at these:
AKG K553 Pro
ATH-M40x
Takstar Pro80
Brainwavz HM9 and HM5
Sony MDR-7506
Which one of these is best for listening to all types of music? I would like some cans with some bass but not too much that it makes the clarity mediocre.
What do yoy guys recommend?
>>53929068
Yeah their higher end gear only lists 93db but it reviews like the best out there, so I'm not sure what to make of that. They want to be honest clearly, but if it's not the same standard everyone else uses what use is it to the consumer?
Good evening /hpg/, how are you guys tonight?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWvZKbDZQ7Y
>>53929089
You really can't go wrong with the 7506
>>53929194
I'm doing good. Time for me to hit the sack. Good night.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQKuwSfj77o
We skullbumps now
>>53929177
>it reviews like the best out there
I wonder how much of that is post purchase rationalization.
make my decisions for me /hpg/ i'm currently looking to buy IEMs for when i'm not in my house, tossing up between ATH-IM70 and SE215. Feel free to suggest anything else in their price range. Detachable cable is a must though and coming with a decent case is a bonus but not essential. I have a pair of Q701s at home and I like how they sound.
(posted in the old thread because i'm dum)
>>53928814
>tfw a random guy asked about the o2 amp in the last thread and he was accused of being the 'me and my brother' fag
I didn't even post in that thread, I made the 'me and my brother' posts over the course of 2 weekends, I rarely come to /g/.
For anyone wondering if there's a difference between the e10k and the o2 amp then the answer is yes, although the difference is really small and i'd actually recommend the e10k in most cases on price alone.
You paranoid fucking retards.
>>53929360
We're reading audiophile reviews here.
"Tinny" Translates to less lower mid range.
"Detailed" Translates to an emphasis on upper mid and treble frequencies.
It's the biggest rambling stream of consciousness and people lap that shit up. Most if not all of it is bullshit. Except reviews done by producers, sound engineers and electronics engineers, because they actually tell you how it sounds, not how "shouldery" the midrange is and how "billowy" the treble is.
>>53929727
No, tinny or metallic translate to an emphasis on the 2-3kHz region
>>53929764
I wrote that hastily and you're right, but the point still stands.
>>53929198
How's the soundstage of those?
>>53929787
Like any good cheaper closed back headphone. Small, but they're capable enough that it never feels squished or overpopulated.
>>53928814
/hpg/ I need a recommendation.
I use Ibasso DX80, and would like to upgrade. I'd like to ask for a recommendation, which brand and type should I buy?
Budget 1000 Euro max
Headphone: old AKG 701 and Beyer 770 250ohm.
I would like to upgrade my headphone as well but first I'd like to upgrade the DAP first. My friend is interested in buying my DX80 so I might as well sell it to him and buy a better one.
What are the best bass centric open soundstage headphones , other than the HE-400?
>>53929976
Pretty sure the only DAPs people consider in that budget are Astell&Kern ones. Maybe the Fiio X7 too now that it's out.
>>53929089
I personally own a pair of m40s. Might not be what you are looking for, the bass is about as referance as possible at the 100$ pricepoint.
>>53929997
Which type of Astell&Kern? The one thst powerful enough to drive 250 ohm headphone, but around 1000 Euro? Most of them are in a range of 1500+
>>53930039
Then don't buy an A&K and just get the X7.
>250 ohm
Irrelevant. What matters is efficiency.
For reference, I can drive HD600s with my X3ii.
Why do you want an expensive DAP anyway?
>>53930059
Better DAC and better sound quality. And I don't want to carry around external DAC and AMP. So just good DAP, as I travel a lot.
>>53930059
>efficiency
I dont understand I'm noob here. I thought some DAP don't have enough power to drive high impedance headphone
>>53930093
Fiio x5 or A&K AK JR
You have a choice between the Texas Instruments PCM1792A in the fiio, and the Wolfson WM8740 in the A&K.
For reference my asus xonar essence ST had the same DAC as that Fiio and it was an excellent card.
Can't vouch for the 8740, but have heard it's slightly better.
>>53930093
You're getting memed by the web.
You can just connect a HA-2 to your phone and you got yourself a (very) good DAC and an analog pot with low high gain.
>>53930103
To dumb it down, basically how loud the headphones get. The Hifiman HE-6 is 50 ohms but is absolutely fucking crazy to drive.
>>53930124
Apparently Asgard colours the sound to lean warm. Is this true?
>>53930128
Oh I forgot to mention the fiio will do coax out, if that's important.
>Location: Tokyo
>Budget: 120 dollars/ 12000円 (flexible)
>Source: Laptop for skype/games and phone on the go
>Full sized sound nice for once
>Closed prefered
>comfort is nice
>listen to game music/instrumental music a lot. Sometimes music with singing, but not often
>i'm currently using 500yen 7-11 headphones. I just want to be free.
>>53930168
I thought the point of solid state amps was that all they had to do was provide the amp part, and there weren't any tubes that rekted your sounds.
>>53930200
You can find Audio-technica gear really fuckin cheap in japan.
Try and look for the pdg-1 if you want something with mic attached, or the msr7, m50x, m40x, or a700x and see if you can listen to them. Shouldnt be too hard to find a place that will have them if you're in tokyo.
>>53930229
Sorry that was meant to be "ATH-PG1" as the PDG1 is the open back version.
>>53930201
Ideally, yes. This is why nwavguy had that whole rant and made the O2.
>>53930229
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll check it out at some nearby headphone shops.
>>53930168
No. I have one with a multibit bifrost it is very clear and neutral.
>>53929976
You might give the Cowon Plenue P1 a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45dU4WnD_LA
Opinion fucking discarded
Does this Z review have recommendation on an amp for HD800?
>>53930939
Z is fucking stupid.
Schiit stack or O2+ODAC is best, get whatever is cheaper. Disregard any tube amp recommendations you read on the web. The "tube" sound is literal distortion.
>>53930992
>But I like it when my midrange is 5db higher for no reason and I can hear X vocalist over the rest of the track.
I really wish plebs would learn to EQ
>>53930826
does he ever actually talk about how they sound? That's an 11 minute video with 10:30 of preamble.
>>53931077
Something something subbass and that's literally it.
>>53930826
>Z shits on the M50/M50X
>Likes the MDR-1A
Aren't they nearly the same thing?
http://goldenears.net/board/5532177 (MDR-1A)
http://goldenears.net/board/5322081 (M50X)
>>53930992
>not using a class a powered amp.
>Not using a R2R dac
>>53931288
Z says the e10k sounds sterile
So I just got a pair of 250ohm dt880s. Honestly didn't expect it to make half of the records I used to enjoy sound like shit thanks to poor and amateur mixing. Half of all the edm I used to listen to is so bright, it's unlistenable now. ;_;
That being said some properly recorded albums sound mind blowingly incredible on these. Just a bit thrown off coming from really bass heavy m50s.
>>53931734
Objectively speaking, isn't sterile a good thing? Or is there a definition to sterile that isn't "doesn't colour sound; leave the signal as it is"?
>>53931807
It should be a good thing, but I'm guessing amps that color the signal are better according to Z
>>53930939
AFAIK, he doesn't have or heard the 800's, and doesn't really expect to get them unless they're borrowed like in his LCD-X review.
I personally don't feel like they really need huge amplification like people say, unless plugged into a mobile device or something, in which case a basic portable amp should suffice.
Most people like to warm up the sound with specific amp/DAC selections, but it doesn't really fix the response of the headphone itself, which is better done with mods.
Has anyone tried both the old K601 and the newer K612 AND the K702?
The 601 has less bass than the 702. This is clear because there are many frequency response charts to compare both but I can't find much related to the 612. I've seen people say that they have more bass than the 702 but there are some that actually say they're more anemic than even the 601.
Innerfidelity is one of the few that tested the 612.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK612.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK702.pdf
Do the 702 show more bass or am I reading the chart wrong?
>>53932818
The differences between the two are very very subtle. If you listened to the 612 one day and 702 the next, you will not be able to tell the difference. Only if you really nitpick in an a/b then maybe.
You're basically choosing between either pay less or pay more to get a detachable cable.
>>53931077
that's the problem with his reviews, he hardly talks about the sound at all, a good portion of his reviews are ALWAYS allocated to comfort and the fucking pads.
Also, in every review he seems to want to stick those brainwavs pads on every headphone he reviews, dude must have a massive fat head or something if he's always obsessed about them fitting on his head...
>>53932945
Well, he is fat...
>>53932961
lol he definitely is, glancing at his other channel and it's like 90% deep-frying every food he can get
>>53932945
Yeah, he has a pretty big head.
got my new headphone today, and tested it out a little bit.
http://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/how-well-can-you-hear-audio-quality
on these tests, i only got nr 5 (coldplay) wrong. Somehow, the uncompressed file has a distortion to it, which is also perceivable in the 320kbps sample. But i can't hear the distortion in the 128kbps sample.
I took the 128kbps sample, because I thought it's a compressionartifact.
Can someone verify this?
>>53932945
I don't even like Zeos but there's nothing I'd trust him or anyone on opinions on the sound of headphones. Sighted and non-level matched listening tests are as much as worthless and blind testing headphones is practically impossible anyway. Better to focus on things you actually can judge without massive bias such as comfort, build, packaging etc as those are sometimes a bit hard to find. We have measurements to judge the performance.
>>53933616
lel only got 3/6 correct. Either picked the 320 or the WAV, some were easier to tell the difference than others. I see what you mean though, but I think it's clipped distortion inherent on the actual recording and the reduced bitrate kind of masks that distortion.
>>53932945
Because what's there to say that measurements can't show?
>>53933094
how do you become a weaboo dude bro? is that even possible?
I've been looking at buying some new headphones. Anyone tried out pic related? I've seen some good stuff about them but I'm no audiophile so I'm not sure what really makes a good pair of headphones.
>>53935642
like most fashion cans, it probably has a midbass hump, uneven midrange, and emphasized treble. This is my assumption and is in no way backed by measurements. Now look, until these cans get measured you should not be throwing 80 dollars around. There are many many decent cans that will serve you well for 80 dollars, cans that have been measured and tested. You know there are many of these well built chinese portable headphones, like the Meizu HD50. As far as on the go cans, you'd probably be happy with these on build quality alone but if you are an audiophile you might want to think twice on that if this will be your only pair of headphones.
>>53935754
Thanks :) do you have any suggestions for a good pair of headphones around $80? I know nothing about what makes a quality pair of headphones so I need some help when deciding what's worth my money.
>>53935803
did you even read the op you fucking dumb nigger
>>53935838
Which part did I violate?
>>53935803
>Meizu HD50
>>53935803
fill out the pastebin so we know what you need.
hi, what beats should I get? money not a problem
>>53935928
the beeatest by dreest
@53935951
um, I can't find that model in the website.
@53935976
#really?
It's on apple dot com
>>53935888
>Budget
$100-$200
>Location
America
>Source
I'm not exactly sure what to put here. Laptop, phone(Galaxy s6), First Gen Zune.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I need a good balance of comfort and quality. Comfort is very important
>Preferred music
I listen to almost everything, but favorite genres are pluderphonics, Hip-Hop and Post-rock
>Past headphones
Just shitty stuff I got as gifts or for cheap. Nothing worth noting.
>>53936004
Fostex T50RP Mk3?
Semi-Open, I'm not sure how big the isolation is and whether it's too viable for portable use.
Audiotechnica MSR-7 are a very nice choice if you want portable though, and they are versatile (different cables with different lengths) so that you could technically use with a computer.
@53935996
are the beats wireless any good?
(the 23 is a reference to miley cyrus video :P)
AKG K553 pro
if you buy those do it on massdrop
this >>53936116
was ment for
>>53936004
>>53929089
>>53936087
>>53935996
>>53935976
>>53936130
Is the soundstage decent?
'sup y'all
I'm not sure if is this the right place to ask but /sqt/ directed me to here.
I want to record something for /r/gonewildaudio by using audacity along side pic related.
Is there anything I could do to make the sound better or do I need to by a dedicated mic?
>>53936162
yes
>>53936258
>>53936116
How much? I can't get on massdrop right now.
>>53929820
>>53936450
how forgiving are they when it comes to lo-fi music and poorly recorded/mastered audio?
>>53936758
$120 and why
Going for this stunning portable soon. How is the sound? Is there anything potentially better? I'm not looking for something war, I don't want it to be too unforgiving but I want detail.
>>53929996
The HE-6 is my favorite planar headphone. So that.
Its super hard to drive, but its great once you do.
>Budget
$1000
>Type
Over ear, open
>Sound signature
Neutral to slightly warm. Lush and engaging sound with mid focus but no muddiness in bass
>Previous headphones
HE400S HD600
>Music
Jazz, Acoustic, Slowcore, Classical, Krautrock
I demoed the HD600 and HE400S for a while and eventually settled with the HE400S. I like the sound overall but I just want more of it if that makes sense. I favor airy open sound with large soundstage and good imaging.
>>53928861
>>53937020
This actually makes me want to vomit.
>>53937036
...b-because you are so jealous of my superior taste??
>>53937002
HE560? HE1000?
Audeze LCD series? Stax?
>>53937050
You have poor memephones.
>>53937053
>HE1K
>$1000 budget
>>53937080
Gomeeen, I don't know any of the Hifiman offerings. 560 does look admirable if he wants a step up from 400i
>>53937103
It really isn't a step up from the 400i.
>Gomeeen
Settle the cringy weeb autism.
>>53937111
When it comes to coloured offerings at around 1k budget, Audeze does come to mind though. It could be a decent choice for him.
>>53937123
He did want a midrange focus though, I think the HD650 would be a better fit.
>>53937053
LCD2 seem like a good choice but not sure about the comfort. The 560 don't seem like a big jump over the 400i to me and Stax just seem like a pain to get a pair.
>>53937160
Tried the 650 and wasn't a fan. Call it the veil meme but they just sounded a little muddy to me.
>>53937192
The entry level model that is usually admirable is the 2170 combo. Gives you a decent flavour of Stax, some people consider it endgame for $500, at least when it comes to detail and getting an electrostat, ruler flat signature.
Audeze are notorious for crazy good comfort, I'm pretty sure. With those HUGE pads.
>>53937020
who is the katsura girl? it looks like a katsura
>left driver on my akg k612 broke
Any suggestions to see if its repairable (did wire test already)?
>inb4 fell for the meme
fair enough
UK poorfag here
Can anyone recommend any cheap over ear headphones? Wouldn't mind 2nd hand if anyone could recommend anything to look out for?
>>53937300
Well, is it the wires or the actual driver?
Because rewiring is relatively easy, just requires some soldering, whereas replacing the actual driver would probably involve completely tearing the whole thing down.
Hey everyone. first time here looking for some advice.
>Budget:
cheaper the better. looking for under 80$
>Location:
US
>Source:
iPhone or Computer
>Preferred type of headphone:
Over ear
>Open or closed:
closed
>Comfort level:
ill be wearing these almost 24/7 so fairly comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance:
neutral i guess. not an expert on this though
>Preferred music:
/mu/ stuff: Animal Collective, Flaming Lips, Modest Mouse, Duster, The Microphones. A lot of lo-fi, noise pop, shoe gaze, slowcore etc. so i wanna hear all the intricacies and shit.
>Past headphones:
apple in ear: hate these. break after a week and don't stay in ear.
Skullcandy Aviator: only real headphones I've ever used. i liked them well enough. they were comfortable and sounded fine to me (although I've never heard any "high-end" stuff so I'm not sure how that would compare. recently the cable broke so I'm looking for some new shit
bitches don't know about my built in AM FM receiver
>>53936941
slightly bright. Whenever I put them on after listening to my HD 598's they feel almost thin sounding, but after like 20 seconds that feeling goes away and It's just pure clarity. I really like them but you have to be able to handle some brightness.
>>53937270
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Girl_Ai
>>53937386
I can handle SHP9500 brightness, but DT880 brightness twinned with lack of mids had myself shitting myself. I own HD600's as a daily, and I have Havi B3 Pro 1's as a current IEM
>>53937419
SHP9500 are brighter and have more of an upper midrange dip so nobody knows what the fuck you're on about.
>>53937419
>more of an upper mid dip than the 880
Are you for real? Like, genuinely?
I couldn't bear the hollowness of the 880's, but the SHP's were acceptable. Maybe because of different pricepoints being a variable, but nonetheless, with all due respect, I think you're not hearing things right.
>>53937494
Okay shitposter.
>>53937514
But i trust zeos more than you.
>>53937514
>implying the freq chart was that similar with the 880's
Nice driver matching graph, shitposter.
>>53937548
Ok.
>>53937554
What are you even talking about, shitposter? Also why are you calling me a shitposter, you're the one posting Beyersremorse meme brand war shit.
>>53937548
Zeos is one of the biggest fucking idiots in the entire hifi scene.
>>53937419
The HD600s take the clarity of the MSR7's and marries it with the full-ness sounding of the HD 598's.
>>53937614
Sick buzzwords.
>>53937629
I mean shit, if you can't understand what I'm trying to say then sorry. The MSR7's have more clarity because of their better highs than the 598's. The 598's sound fuller because of their more prominent mids, it's an all around warmer sounding headphone. The HD600's brings both of those together. Don't expect the MSR7's to have the mids that the HD600's have, but they do have the clarity.
>>53937667
>Veil600
>clarity
righteo
>>53937686
Sick buzzwords.
>>53936004
>AKG k240
aww no one wants to help me ok :(>>53937347
>>53937597
sick insult dude! Is this what you do when you know you aren't as knowledgeable and experienced as someone else?
>>53936320
wrong neighborhood white boi
>>53937917
http://www.amazon.com/KRK-KNS8400-Studio-Headphones/dp/B004ARUO2S
spend the extra and get some decent headphones
>>53937940
Zeos never has a negative review and constantly contradicts himself. He says shit like "paying more doesn't get you better, just different." Most of his recommendations are also mediocre (andrew jones pioneer series for example)
>Budget:
~30$
>Source:
Phone or Computer
>Preferred type of headphone:
doesn't matter as long it sounds good
>Past headphones:
headphones that came with my phone
also what do you think of sennheiser hd 201?
heard there are some really good Chinese headphone at this price range.
beats by dre
>>53937955
Sorry to offend your thread my nigger human.
>>53937940
Since when is Zeos knowledgeable and experienced? He has no idea what he's talking about or how any of the products he reviews work. Hell he admits to it in plenty of videos.
Plus he thinks he's an expert on loudspeakers because his job just involves installing them, as in being told where to put them or fix them into.
>>53937998
For that money you should be looking at the Superlux lineup.
The HD201 is pretty shit, doesn't really sound good and feels horribly cheap, not to mention it's got super shallow and uncomfortable pads.
>>53938032
any specific models you would suggest?
>>53938093
HD681 and HD668 are commonly recommended here, HD681 Evo is only for you if you want fucktons upon fucktons of bass.
>>53938125
HD668b*, that is.
>>53937978
He hated the k612
>>53938031
>his job just involves installing them, as in being told where to put them or fix them into.
Isn't he rich?
>>53938208
>hated the K612
>AKG
go figure
>>53938220
No? What makes you think that?
>>53938231
the fuckton ammount of audio equipment he has, his 4k tv, his amplifiers and dacs, etc.
>>53938223
>>AKG
>go figure
What are you implying? He loves the 7xx
>>53938220
>isnt he rich
Go watch one of his videos. He's not. He's as poor as half the people on /g/ with anime girl desktops.
>>53938255
Most his stuff is not that expensive at all.
>>53938255
Half of that shit is loaned to him for reviews, the stuff he does own isn't exactly expensive. Plus outside of living expenses that's all he spends his money on anyway.
I am about to buy Sennheiser HD800 without AMP and use it with my nexus 4 and motherboard DAC. How fucked I am?
>>53938208
but the k612 sucks...
>>53938295
another retard who thinks 'AMP' stands for something.
>>53935642
Looks like Grado knockoff
>>53938331
it stands for amplifier. What your problem kid? Watch to not cut yourself with such edgy reply
>>53938295
Well, if I plug mine straight into the computer it sounds pretty good (depends on the hardware really), but from an iPhone the sound becomes weak AF, kiss your bass goodbye. Not that it can't generate loudness, but it just sounds shitty. If you intend to listen from your phone a lot you'll pretty much need an external amp like an HA-2 or something.
>>53938386
it's short for amplifier, it's not an acronym you ESL scum
>>53929218
M40x bro
Just ordered some Brainwavz pads to put on the M40x. You can't go wrong with comfy.
>>53938488
Thanks for the info. I will use them at home and want to buy amp in the next few month. Just want to know how bad they will be for the day I will get them to not worry about that I will not like them at the end.
I stopped at HD800 as I hate closed-back headphones muffled sound and love when sound plays all around you and not just in front of your ears, with sharp and clear notes. Plus I like when high notes are piercing clear. After deciphering all those audiophiles moon-writings I come to conclusion that HD800 is what I need.
Hope they will be better than mine steelseries siberia v1.
Sony MDR7506 or AKG K553 Pro?
>>53929218
Good night, Anon.
>>53938693
>steelseries siberia v1
Haha I think just about anything would be better than that.
In any case, even if you do like the sound signature, it may pay to try modding them (non-destructive). I didn't have any problems with the stock sound, but tried a new type of mod called a resonator simply because I had the materials and means to make one, and it made a clear improvement by attenuating the 6~7k peak. It still has the same clear sound, but now the bass and mids sound more emphasized since they're not being overpowered. With an EQ you would normally have to cut 6db off this range.
>>53938713
Neither of those. SHP9500 all the way!
>>53938978
I never heard pricey headphones (nothing over 200$ and all of them was gayman headphones), so I am afraid that I like siberia sound because it is shitty and I might not like good sound. But I believe it is I just hate closed-back headphones, because every closed-back headphone I heard has that strange tunnel effect of flat sound near the ear, but every open-back(even cheap shit for 5$) doesn't have it and sound comes from the air around my head.
>>53939040
> picking an unpopular meme headphone out of production because someone on the internet recommended them at some point
Opinion on JBL Synchros S500?
>>53939194
Everest Elite 300 are better
>>53939061
>so I am afraid that I like siberia sound because it is shitty and I might not like good sound.
>mfw
I think the difference should be immediately noticeable, but then again my personal experience has been that you need to use the new thing for like a week straight and lay off your old headphones, don't do A/B comparisons. Later put the old ones back on and you'll probably cringe in disgust like that audiophile meme.
You will never fully get the extent of a headphone's sound signature just listening to it for five minutes, which is why my local shop lets you A/B all day long, so long as you don't annoy the other customers.
Are the Marshall Majors #decent? Anyone tried them yet?
>>53939331
#no
holy shit guys, why are the shp9500 so sibilant? sssss tssss ssss tssss everywhere.
>>53939366
because you fell for meme shit
>>53939387
Are K702 sibilant?
>>53939326
Thanks for advise anon. Sadly I live in second (falling to third) world country so it is hard to find any retail shop with them for testing and I will buy them blind online.
I understand what you mean as I had this effect using better headphones, than siberia. After several hours, when I put siberia again, they was sounded washed out (flat?). At the end I actually much prefer shitty flat sound of siberia with wider soundstage, than near ears but better sound of closed-back. Nonetheless I will give good run to them before making hard judges.
>>53939522
not as sibilant but they are tinny in the upper midrange
Dumb question, but what is the RCA input/output on an amp/dac for and how does it work? I understand it's for connecting it to other devices but not much beyond that.
I'm looking to buy a O2+ODAC from a european retailer but the dude's asking for 70 euros extra for pretty much just the RCA input. Is it really that useful or should I just not bother with it? Am I gonna regret it later if I get a proper audio system down the line and don't have that?
http://www.headnhifi.com/o2-odac-combo
http://www.headnhifi.com/amplifiers/desktop-headphone-amplifiers/O2-ODAC-fully-modded
Why are these AudioTechnica ATH-M50s so bassy?!? Fuck me, i thought i was getting monitoring headphones now all i hear are thoomps over my instruments.
>>53940181
>he bought ATH-M50s
>for monitoring
um
>>53940181
They're listed as monitors and zeos told me they were great for monitoring (but nothing else) but my mixes have gone to shit cause of these.
>>53940252
>>53939972
>what is the RCA input/output on an amp/dac for and how does it work?
Analog audio input.
>>53940252
Should've gone with the M40X instead.
Or some Shures.
>>53939972
>>53940288
Or analog output.
>>53940289
oh like the Shure SRH840 Zeos recommended? I still have time to return these M50s so thanks for the advice.
>>53940302
I wasn't aware that the O2+ODAC had RCA outs.
>>53940288
>>53940302
So is it literally just for connecting it to an audio player and amplifying it?
Also
>output
>input
What's the difference?
>>53940350
>>output
>>input
>What's the difference?
Really? I would have thought the "out" and "in" parts of those words would have clued you in. Or "clued you out" since you seem to confuse the two.
>>53940350
The difference is the fucking direction of the signal. Come on man. Output from an amp go to your the next unit in a line, be it a another amp or speaker drivers. Input the recieved signal.
>>53940350
Also the point is that you could can connect a speaker amp to your headphone amp/DAC for easy switching between the two. Usually people go with as few components in a chain as possible though, so connecting your PC directly to both would be the way to go.
>>53940374
Well, the reason I asked in the first place is that I know pretty much nothing about the subject, so "signal direction" means nothing to me when I barely understand how the device works.
>>53940393
>>53940455
Guess that makes sense. Thanks
>>53940496
What are you going to connect the DAC/amp to? If it's a PC you don't need analog/RCA input, just the USB.
>>53940496
Do you understand how _any_ device works? For example, driving a car? Gas goes INto an engine and power comes OUT. Or how about garden hose? Water goes IN one end (usually from a faucet) and comes OUT the other.
It isn't like these words change their meaning when it comes to audio electronics.
>>53940350
>input
You want to use the device as an amplifier only, receiving a signal from another device.
>output
You want to use the device as a DAC only, connecting it to another amplifier.
DACs and amps are often two separate components, and need these RCA connectors to interface, so even combo devices tend to have them too for compatibility reasons. Alternatively, they can be used as an output for active speakers.
>>53940526
Hey, at least that I knew. I was just wondering if the RCA input is actually a good and useful feature or just an extra "just in case" thing that nobody uses. Just so I know if it's worth spending the extra money.
>>53940552
Dang so it's more versatile than I thought. Neat.
>>53940663
If you want to connect your headphone to something sending an analog signal it's useful. Like a turntable or a CD player, any reciever really. I only use my headphone amp/DAC with my computer since my AVR has a 1/4" jack output built in anyway, so it's all about what device you want to listen to with your headphones as RCA is pretty universal.
I want a headphone that when people look at me on twitch or on /hpg/ they say, Wow that guy sure knows a thing or two about audio. I want to look like a elitist but don't want to do my research.
What should i get? Budget is under 1,000.
>>53941031
>Budget is under 1,000.
HE 400i and some expensive DAC/AMP
>>53941031
>>53941046
this, maybe a schiit stack or whatever DAC/amp combo fills the rest of the budget.
anyone here have experience with the bravo v2 tube amp?
>>53941031
Stax
>>53941079
> tubes
>>53941031
HD600, HE400i/HE560 there's a few options.
Stax SRS-2170 are also a nice choice.
HD600's are the "safest" sounding, imo.
400i's are more bassy and have more treble energy.
You should do research you absolute faggot, gosh.
>>53941111
Research only leads to play saying X headphone is too artificial while others say it's too bright while others say it's very comfortable while others say is uncomfortable while others say it has a wide soudstage while others say it too wide, etc.
Research sucks, everyone has different opinions and audio is one of the most subjective matters to talk about
>>53937347
mdr 7506
>>53941131
That's why we have the template, to figure out which headphones suit YOU best.
>>53941131
What have you considered?
You SHOULD do research but do a SHITLOAD of it.
Steer away from Beyer unless you like artificial mids and ear-rape highs.
HD600's and 400i's are the two bigdogs I would consider though, both safe options, both aren't too bad, so research those two.
People argue about a veil on the 600's, which I personally disagree with. 650's are veiled, but 600's have slightly lacking treble energy in some scenarios. Most of the time the treble is JUST perfect. Not too fatiguing nor veiled. Detail retrieval can also lack sometimes, but it's not tragic.
>>53941211
>>53941131
I'm not the original poster but the reason i'm not doing any research is because:
1) saves on time
2) i'm not a audiofool
3) it's a meme hobby as i see a lot of you own a lot of headphones which implies bad decision making and wasted money
4) i fear the rabbit hole: i.e. i will have buyer's remorse down the line because of some insignificant flaw i found out about my headphones through research that some other meme product excels at which would lead me to not being satisfied with what i have and spend on other memes.
>>53941317
>i fear the rabbit hole: i.e. i will have buyer's remorse down the line because of some insignificant flaw i found out about my headphones through research that some other meme product excels at which would lead me to not being satisfied with what i have and spend on other memes.
I already returned 2 headphones because of this shit. I need to buy a pair and just stick with it but it's hard
>>53941317
>3) it's a meme hobby as i see a lot of you own a lot of headphones which implies bad decision making and wasted money
What a great way to go about asking for help from us. I wonder if us don't have different headphones for different situations or different sound signatures. Nope! It's because of bad decision making.
>>53941372
That in itself proves my point.
>oh i like these headphones but i wish i had something with more bass
>this headphone has the right amount of bass but i could sure use better highs
>this headphone does bass and highs well but i don't have enough clarity in the mids.
I'm not real finicky about details like this and i don't want to become that finicky so just give me whatever and i'll live with it.
>>53941453
>>oh i like these headphones but i wish i had something with more bass
More like
>These open cans are great for home use but I have to turn it up to eleven to hear the music when in public.
>These closed cans are great for isolation but don't sound nearly as good as the open cans. Also they tend to shift and fall when I'm exercising. Better get some IEMs.
>These IEMs are pretty good but they cost almost twice as much as closed cans for the same quality of sound.
>>53941583
you mention sound signature, i was addressing sound signatures, not different use cases.
>>53941317
> i see a lot of you own a lot of headphones which implies bad decision making and wasted money
You know, most of the time you can return stuff that you bought and get something else in return, if not even a refund.
People buy multiple headphones because they sound different from each other and are better for different things. That's just how it works, and people who are into this kind of stuff can obviously afford it.
also
>"meme" is such a common word in your vocabulary
Holy shit bro that's embarrassing.
>>53941453
Stop talking about things you don't know anything about. It makes you sound even more immature.
If you don't really care about what you're going to buy then just do like every other mom and teenage girl and google "best headphones 2016" and pick the coolest looking one. Stop trying to bait.
>>53941602
I mentioned both different sound signature _and_ different situations.
Different sound signatures would be more like:
>These are great for rock but not so good for orchestral pieces.
>I'll get both and use one or the other depending on my mood.
>>53936473
soul medal gives that reaction to people
>>53941636
>>53941621
>>53941583
filthy audiopedophiles
I got my answers and it looks like the 400i are the best option. Thanks.
>>53941683
Don't go away mad. Just go away.
>>53941636
>>53941621
Why are you guys even answering a dude that's either a troll or an idiot? He dind't filled request form nor showed any knowledge about audio, hell, he didn't showed any respect for the very people who wanted to help, just ignore the little prick.
>>53937020
get some v-modas bro
>>53941704
Pity.
>>53941211
Getting down to the nitty gritty. the 400is don't compete in the same league as the venerable HD600.
>>53941815
400S are in the same price bracket but they have enough downfalls not to be too recommended
400i serve as a venerable contender though
>>53941704
For the lulz when he comes back here and complains about his lq mastered tracks and hissing laptop/smartphone.
>>53941915
>lq mastered tracks and hissing laptop/smartphone
What? How so?
>>53941930
If you're that lazy hater you'll find out in due time.
i got my e10k in the mail today!
it's so TINY! my gosh i love it!
smaller than cigarette box!
so epic and kewl taking headphonnes to new heights!
>>53942069
Better than sound card?
>>53928861
What headphones are these?
>>53942148
certainly louder, with 250ohm headphones...
that was my main concern
i'm using a 2012 retina macbook
so, erm... probably... hopefully... i think
better s/n ratio for sure
crisp n clean
Already own DT990 Pros, am I going to get any audible benefit if I upgrade to a pair in the 200$ to 300$ range?
Currently deciding between upgrading my DT990s, upgrading my shitty desktop multimedia speakers or getting an USB DAC
/hpg/
I'd like to ask recommendation great closed headphone, I want to upgrade from my old Beyer 770. Budget, I willing to compromise to 700$ or maybe a bit more
>>53930059
>>53930128
>>53930137
>>53930393
Thank you for the info!
My pair of K121 flopped.
Want to try something else/better.
>budget
$160 US dollar
>Location
Uruguay, but I'm able to purchase off Amazon and any other US based store.
>source
PC, can use part of the budget for a better DAC/amp, as long as it doesn't compromize the original purchase / isn't too expensive.
>Type
Full size or whatever the same size as the K121 is.
>open/closed/semiopen
Open or semi-open will do.
>Comfort level
Comfortable if possible.
>Tonal balance
neutral, not afraid of trying something new tho.
>Past headphone
AKG K121, I hated not having a removable cord, lived with fear until it finally happened today.
>>53942236
Sennheiser HD800 S
I need a new pair of IEM's. I saw that the guide said the SoundMAGIC E10 is highly recommended but I just wanted to hear some other options.
>Budget
$100 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
Android
>Past Headphones
Still have my AKG Q701's and had a pair of Mi Piston 2's but lost them unfortunately.
Nothing to see here, just unknown phones being unknown.
>>53938125
>>53937998
HD668b's here, please get the Evos.
>>53937998
the HD 201 sound well, the only thing with them is the loudness, if you low the mids a lot, low the high and let the bass on 0 you ll get good sound only not loud.
>>53942717
try to look for the AKG K533 pro on massdrop, the ship overseas, it sems to be 125 + 25 from shipping, and pray that customs doesn´t touch your package
>>53942421
Massdrop Fostex TH-X00.
>>53942938
If you can stretch your budget a bit there's the RHA MA750.
>>53943622
Customs are pretty much facists here.
But if I send it to my US address then my courier does all the paper stuff for me, so it should be okay.
The only turnoff in those is the non removable cable desu.
>>53943774
these are pretty neutral, and dont sacrifice bass since they are closed back, pretty rare to get that frequency response, the cable part is really a bummer
>>53943576
Thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aipXii-qWiQ
So he's jizzing all over these Philips
Are they actually that good?
>>53943882
those two are completely different, you can get decent sound from the HD201 but you need to EQ and don expect to much sound from them, i usually use my Headphones with low volume, so its not really an issue, anyway like some other anon said, they are made of plastic, have shit pads, they dont isolate the sound too well which is really lame since they don´t get a lot of volume, but they are really cheap
>>53943953
I've heard they are great. Apparently the X2s are better but that is only what I've read
>>53928861
decent my man
>>53929194
>>53937020
>>53938533
trash taste
>>53929727
>billowy
haha, truth. most reviews are 90% of those types of words.
>Budget
Under $200
>Location
US
>Source
Typical headphone jack
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Preferably high, but flexible
>Preferred music
Rock, Game/Animeme, Piano/classical, Electronic, and J-pop
>Past headphones
I've had Koss Portapros, and to be honest that is exactly the sound I'm looking for, just higher-end. I broke them, unfortunately. Right now I have Sony MDRV6 and I hate them for listening to music.
>have 990s
>on higher volumes there's this almost painful high-frequency hiss when vocalists sing a sharp "S"
Fuck
>>53946003
EQ.
>>53946010
nah I'm fucked
Should've done my research before buying
Woops posted the wrong image
>>53938340
Ditto
>>53946555
I recommend turning on the 1/48th octave smoothing. It gets rid of the fuzziness in high frequencies without masking any meaningful detail and makes the graphs a little cleaner looking. The rumble in low frequencies goes away if you allow a few second delay before the sweep starts and don't touch the headphones/coupler at all. You can anticipate it based on the SPL input meter before you click measure. If it is higher than the noise floor of your system/room or not settled at a certain level, something is probably moving.
What kind of coupler are you using right now? Can you post the HD 800S results?
>>53946038
EQ famalan, it can fix that. Or get the HD 600 :^)
>>53946719
Coupler is home-made garbage, photo in next post.
