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Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap.
>Excellent keyboards - tactile feel and quiet.
>Great durability: chassis uses a magnesium rollcage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels.
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing in the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
New guides by xsauc:
http://www.dankpads.com
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/UtEixUJD
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
ThinkPad wallpaper collection:
https://imgur.com/a/NlepZ
Got me a 3rd gen X1C yesterday, and besides the fact that it is a faggy ultrabook, I really like it.
HOWEVER:
Its a TN screen. Now, I have been using TNs all my live, and since it is still 200% better than the shitscreen I have on my current X200, that is not too bad, but still, I am not sure if I want to spend 800€ for a TN machine.
fuck, /tpg/, what should I do? Keep it, and be happy with the fact that I still have a better display than all of the folks here who fell for the 420#balzeit meme, or send it back and spend 400 more and get me the current gen one (or T460s) with an IPS?
>>53913160
I'd keep it, if you're happy with the performance, I too will fall for the T420 blaze it pad once I get the extra cash.
>>53913179
that thing just flies, and the 4G modem has great reception at my place, compared to the dongle I used previously. Also, windows quotes me around 9 hours of battery, so I guess more than 5 should be easily maneageable under linux, but still, there is this slight feeling that the screen will annoy me.
Guess I can always sell it for an OK price. The X1's seem to keep their value a bit better than most other TP's
TFW upgraded from a T420 to a T440p ab the keyboard was a massiv downgrade. Now got a x220 as a sidekick and pretty much i am more on my x220 as on my t440ü
I'm going to repost in /sqt/ when the new thread opens, but since it's ThinkPad related:
I would like to control keyboard (and mouse if possible) inputs for my ThinkPad X220, from my desktop.
What i ideally want is a way to plug a usb cable between my PC and ThinkPad and have my PC send keystrokes, that will mimic an actual keyboard (and mouse) being plugged into the laptop, so that a script is indistinguishable from a human press. (no programs running on my ThinkPad).
Is such a think possible? or will I have to build a robot with motors and have a stick poke the required keys?
>>53913252
>Also, windows quotes me around 9 hours of battery, so I guess more than 5 should be easily maneageable under linux
Nice. Just fucking around in an [spoiler]ubuntu[/yeah, I know, now spoilers here] live system, and after installing TLP and swithcing WWAN off, but WIFI on, it now quotes between 10 and 7 hours.
About to jump on a genuine 9 cell for x220 but this one in particular says it was manufactured in April 2012. Will it still be fine and hold close to 100% charge? It is new and sealed
Just bought T540p and noticed that it has ExpressCard(I think?) slot that isn't mentioned in the think wiki
What are some good uses for it ? And which version is used in this model ? So far I've read that you can use it for USB ports, SSD and even external GPU, but it's the first time seeing this port and I don't really know anything about it
Whats the recommended 17 inch thinkpad?
W700Ds looks amazing and I could afford one but I live in ausfag land and would rather see one in person......
Need a unicorn
14", FHD, equivilent of a gt 8800
want something faster than the gimp memory bandwidth on older workstation cards.
If there's nothing of decent quality like this for cheapish I'll probably just get a c2d shitposting machine.
Planning on purchasing a used W520 for ~370e.
Is it too bulky to be carried around in a backpack? Will use it as desktop replacement but also need to carry it to school 'n such.
Has anyone successfully done KVM and VGA passtrough to a windows VM with a thinkpad that has integrated graphics + additional one? Like with the W520, Intel HD 3000 + Nvidia Quadro 2000M?
>>53913846
Why you just dont get a T520 with hd3000 + quadro 2000m? Its lighter. The w520 was fuckin huge in my opinion
>>53913886
Thinkpads are pricey here in scandinavia, as everyone knows they're superb, they're in high demand. Just spotted a W520 in an auction, and i think i could score it for about 370e (i7 processor etc). Usually in scandinavian "craigslist" one seems to go for 600-700e.
Originally i craved for a T430 (and i still do), it's just that an i5-model with 1600x900 display costs ~350-400e aswell, so that's why i asked about W520.
>>53914019
Order just one T430 from Germany. A good source for a thinkpad in Germany is thinkpad-forum.de
>>53914062
4th gen Intel CPU have m.2 instead of mSATA right ?
>>53914092
i have m2 in my t440p with haslel
>>53913160
>muh TN
Good TN > Shit IPS
Lenovo tends to put dull IPS panels with shit color reproduction in their machines, just read some reviews.
>>53914119
T540p with i3-4000m haswell should have it too then, because I almost bought an mSATA drive since I put one in friends T430s
Is the slot like it was with mSATA - I have to put it in mini PCI express or is there a seperate slot ?
>>53914149
i just replaced my second m2 slot wwan card with the ssd. first one is reserved for wifi
>>53914303
Yeah, my second slot is empty, WWAN is useless for me, just not sure, haven't really checked how big is it, because most m.2 drives are 80mm, at least the better ones
So mPCI = m.2 then ? Because on think wiki it writes as mini PCI with the wifi and WWAN, but doesn't mention m.2 at all
>>53914311
According to german thinkwiki its m2 and m2 =/= mPCI
"Wechsel von mPCIe zu M.2"
>>53914334
Well I guess doesn't matter too much, it seems I have two m.2 slots and one is used by WiFi and another can be used as a boot drive m.2 SSD
>>53914345
Yeah i am using my ssd as bootdrive
btw when i order a mSata ssd for my X220 can i use it as bootdrive?
>>53914360
If you're fine with SATA 2.
>>53914376
Pretty much yes. Just more than normal HDD which i will use as datastorage
Does anyone have an E550? Any problems with Linux on it?
My P50 shipped out this morning. Pretty excited. I just blanked out every number, I know some of them can't be used for much.
Wasn't suppose to ship until 4/13. Im hoping it arrives this Saturday but I'm not expecting it until Monday-Tuesday like it says.
My X200 backlight doesn't turn on after a small fall (image still visible, but very dark)
1) How can I test if the inverter work?
2)How can I test if the backlight work?
3) Can you replace the backlight without buying a new panel?
>>53914550
Whats the point of this post, you dont even say at what price you got it
>>53915203
What's the point in the post that everybody else posts? I paid 1400 after discount and 3 year accidental warranty.
i7 6700HQ, 8GB DDR4, 500GB HDD, Quadro M1000M 2GB.
I have a 250GB M.2 and accompanying tray on the way. Will also probably buy a 16GB DDR4 kit and keep the 8GB as a backup since a second 8GB lenovo kit would cost like 50$. Ridiculous
>T420s
>i5
>8gb ram
>SSD
>1600x900 display
>250e
I'v had it a day now. Great machine, best laptop I'v had (former macbook air user). Did I do good? Actually I'll answer myself - yes I did.
>>53915353
>1600x900
You did very well indeed
I really want to buy an x200 and put libreboot on it, but how long til my new x200 flat out dies bc it's such an old computer?
I feel like it might just be a waste of energy.
>>53915379
That was the most important spec after processor since it's not upgradable. Movies look and play awesome
>>53915419
>waste of energy.
Penryn laptops won't be a waste of energy for years, and they're cheap, also a Core 2 thinkpad X200 wont die on you, business class Core 2 laptops were reliable as hell.
>>53915255
My Alienware was a better deal
>17 inch, 4k screen
>samsung 950 pro
>hitachi 1 TB hdd
>i7 6700HQ
>32 GB RAM
>GTX 970M
>cool LEDs
$1500, 1700 after taxes and shit
So I bought a T440p last may and I had a ton of problems with it. The lighting of the screen is really bad and I had the screen replaced twice now, but it will breake again, as the screen or sreens themselves are not the problem, but the frame that keeps pushing on it. After a while, there will be a purple spot when it is suposed to show black.
I really want to return it and get a used X220 because that is sufficient for me and I need that extra money. But the guys at the store refuse to take it back, claiming, that Lenovo needs 3 chances to repaire it, wich I am pretty sure is incorrect, at least according to german law. Obviously I don't want to take them to court though...
Any one have any experiences with anything like that? Any tips?
Oh, and they forgot to put a piece of the plastic case back on when they repaired it last time...
>>53915502
>>53915502
>Poop tier aesthetics
>Fans fail within the year
>Dell Meme
>Lesser build quality
>Same if not worse battery life
>Same if not worse portability/size
>Can't blend into a crowd
>Less likely to be supported by other operating systems
>More likely for any and all of the components to fail
>Probably doesn't have a 3+ year warranty for that price.
Keep in mind my build was 1086 plus 212 for accidental damage warranty plus 70 for taxes plus 20 for shipping.
I didn't get memed DESU
I found a X201 for 200 bucks
Yay or nay
>>53915547
>Poop tier aesthetics
The gamer aesthetic is actully very cool and very cyberpunk
>Fans fail within the year
None of my Dells have, only problem is usually with the keyboards on my laptops
>Dell Meme
Dell is a trusted company for me
>Lesser build quality
This thing is built like a rock
>Same if not worse battery life
I don't use battery, but I hear it's good on this machine
>Same if not worse portability/size
Portability would not be this machine's strong point, I use it exclusively in bed
>Can't blend into a crowd
See above
>Less likely to be supported by other operating systems
Dell machines work great with GNU/Linux, the only other OS I care about
>More likely for any and all of the components to fail
Source?
>Probably doesn't have a 3+ year warranty for that price.
idk
>Keep in mind my build was 1086
No, not memed but just ended up with an inferior machine
And I DO own a StinkPad, but honestly I prefer this Alienware
>>53915632
Getting a T420 next week:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Thinkpad-i5-2520M-Professional-Wireless/dp/B00T7P7S68?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_4&smid=A1CSPH6UNIUWE0
Going to be upgrading to 8GB RAM, and maybe getting a new screen for it if I don't like it, potentially also upgrading the HDD in the future.
What can I expect from the battery life with that one ^? It's refurbished, no way to test it out first or anything. Main things I'm going to be doing will be programming, browsing the internet etc., nothing too heavy.
Also any general advice for the T420, is there anything I should look out for, or that I'll definitely want to upgrade etc?
Cheers
Guys I have a question in general about batteries. Specially about the one on a T420 (not sure if it's a 6cell or 9cell. I bought it used, lasts about 3 to 4 hours depending on use)
What is best practice? To always let the battery fully discharge? To let it discharge to a certain point and then plug it in? Or just freely plug it in whenever you get the chance, even if it's at 50% or 90%?
I don't really know what the recommended practices are for extending battery life, so I wanted to ask here.
>>53915689
Well, like I said here >>53915698 my used T420's battery lasts 3 to 4 hours, maybe 5 with very light usage and lower screen brightness. But I'm not sure if it's the same battery as yours or the wear level.
>>53915632
This is maximum tier bate.
>Aesthetics.
I suppose it's subjective. Definitely an immature mentality if you think that they look cool.
alienware is reknown for fan issue and thermal issues in their laptops. They're pretty bad and longevity is shit tier. You never see anybody with an alienware that's >2 years old.
Dell makes good products. Dell OWNS alienware. Alienware is becoming more and more like Dell. The only good thing Dell does is monitors because they use proprietary systems.
It's -not- built like a rock. I've used them in person. It's just more plastic.
They work -okay- with Linux OS's.
>Source?
Just go online. There is no one source on this. Look at everybody complaining about their alienware. They are like every other laptop. They just don't last very long.
>Doesn't know his warranty information
Jej
>Inferior hardware
Top jejerino. You paid an extra 400 for an 80$ increase in graphics power and a literally useless amount of RAM and cheap LED lights and a panel that's not going to give you any benefit because you can't game at 4K on a 970M.
Sweet memes.
>>53915714
I'm considering also getting a 9cell at some point for if I need it on a long journey or something, maybe keep it charged as a spare for when the 6cell runs out. Not sure whether that'd be worth the price though
>>53915496
Thanks. Might have to pull the trigger afterall.
>>53915724
>It's -not- built like a rock. I've used them in person. It's just more plastic.
The top is made of aluminum and the part where your hands go is a rubberized plastic, very sturdy m8
32 GB of RAM is not useless, on average I'm using anywhere from 10 to 20 depending on what I'm doing.
I don't play games, but this laptop has the thunderbolt port and a port for an Alienware Graphics Amplifier, either of which would allow me to hook up a faster graphics card should I want to game in the future.
>You never see anybody with an alienware that's >2 years old.
Maybe they just use them at home like me, because they're embarrassed to be seen with an old laptop or don't like the gamer aesthetic any more.
>>53915856
>Uses 10-20GB of RAM and doesn't play games.
Sold it right there. Nobody buys an Alienware as a workstation BECAUSE the longevity of the product is shit tier at best.
I have thunderbolt as well. Too bad it's a literally meme and you get a >30% performance loss with whatever card you buy as an eGPU.
They don't use them because they don't work. If they were embarrassed they'd try to sell it. Ayyliumware look futuristic. Even the first few don't look like an /old/ laptop.
I am fetching an x60 from mail tomorrow.
I bought it to easily libreboot it via software flashing.
Is it any good for anything else except browsing?
It'll be the 1.83GHz C2D model.
>>53915939
What is this "anything else" that you intend to do with it?
>>53915975
Watching Chinese cartoons and movies, playing cs:go, producing music
>>53916003
>Chinese cartoons and movies
Works
>playing cs:go
Nope
>producing music
Probably ok
Buying an x220 from a guy on Craigslist, he has a few.
He's selling one with a 2.8 ghz i7-2640m for thirty quid more than the rest of the 2.5ghz i5's he has.
Is it worth the extra money? Specs are identical otherwise.
>>53916034
nah it just eats battery and gets hotter
>>53916083
Ah for real? I was thinking I could talk him down to less maybe.
But its actually worse off with an i7?
>>53916195
Even though the TDP is the same, yes it runs hotter and eats more - this is/was also demonstrated when you use a 65w brick where it throttles (not sure if it still does, I think there was BIOS update to help with that)
In some Lenovo documentation it writes that m.2 slot is "M.2 solid-state drive for caching only (on some models)", I've read a bit about the caching thing, but can I still use it normally as a boot drive ?
I'm going to get a T420.
What should I look for? I see that they have different specs on ebay
>>53913269
did you not watch louis rossmans review on the t440, you fucked up kiddo.
>>53916408
But i'm pretty happy with it besides the Keyboard
>>53916235
Thanks for the info.
what parts have you all upgraded on your T420s?
ever done cpu cpu cooling fan and such such
>>53916369
I got a T420i for my daughter. i3 and 1600x900
I got a T420 for myself. i5 1600x900 and some 1024NVDIA card in it or whatever
for me 1600x900 is a must
the rest i normally just upgrade myself ram ssd
>>53916521
Thank you. Is manufactor refurbished okay or a bad sign?
I'm gonna ask this again since last posted in the wee hours of the morning:
Will a new genuine battery that was manufactured in 2012 still hold close to 100% charge?
>>53916369
1600x900 is a must. Check ones in good condition (obviously) and if some parts need upgrading (ram, hdd -> ssd) calculate those parts in.
I'd recommend to get one with sufficient parts already in or get a very basic model for cheap and buy upgrade parts used and cheap. Also if you wish to use it on battery get one with a 9 cell or otherwise good condition battery. Real Lenovo batteries cost a ton.
Cost wise, the price should be around 200 eur
>>53916619
I'm not an expert but don't batteries need to be activated (used for the first time) before they start depleting? Other wise it would be dead since normally batteries drain constantly and after going under the "real" 0% it dies completely.
Has anyone ever come across an x220 with a resolution higher than 1366x768?
My T420 running Arch has had some issues with the battery as of late. Basically sometimes acpid stops recognizing the battery and its charge %, telling me its unknown. I don't know if it's the battery that's malfunctioning or if it's acpid, I think it's the former, but how can I test it's the battery for sure? And if it is, is there a way to fix it? Those 55++ batteries are damn expensive
>>53916597
>Is manufactor refurbished okay or a bad sign?
it means nothing at all, it's still a used, secondhand laptop
>>53916929
X220 only comes in 1366x768 but can feature either TFT or IPS.
>>53916597
both mine were refurbs. came in great condition. the second one looked brand new and I think the HD was new. only issue with it was the track ball thing was a little faded. not that it matters. you can also get like 15 of them for 5 dollars.but yeah.. a slong as it's a big seller with a lot of feedback should be fine. just make sure it comes with battery AC adaptor. sometimes you gotta double check heh
>>53916658
Hmm, I'm not sure but I'll look into that. Thanks
How do I get an external mic to work on T420?
Cracked open the casing on my battery
I dried closing it but it I couldn't
It still works fine, should I be worried
>>53916929
I don't think it's possible to frankenpad it
>>53914143
>Lenovo tends to put dull IPS panels with shit color reproduction in their machines, just read some reviews.
True.
But lenovo also tends to use shit TN panels.
Oh well, so does everyone else, but it still sucks.
>>53917150
The cells are protected but obviously not as well now that the coating is exposed. I recommend electric taping it asap and looking into a replacement. Something I'm not sure about is if the heat dissipation is worse now
>>53914550
just got mine yesterday, shit is dank
>>53917807
Ayyy which model?
Also
>tfw when im probably not most expensive thinkpad on /g/
>>53917150
makes no difference. You wouldn't toss it into saltwater before, don't do it now.
>>53913067
why is there a general for one specific type of laptop, what the fuck is your redditors' problem?
>>53918018
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)
This has probably more laptops than there are phones in phone general or waifus in other /g/ generals
>>53913269
Ever upgrading from an X220..
You dun goofed. Literally the best laptop atm ignoring the lma0 768p meme.
>>53918018
>what the fuck is your redditors' problem?
I don't have a redditor unless my kid has leveled up his trolling when I wasn't watching.
What would be the best Linux distro to install on my X220t?
>>53917999
B- b- b- but
>muh legendary dankpad reliability!!!!
I thought theyd easily survive saltwater!
>>53918160
Whichever the fuck you want.
Its powerful enough for anything, besides HPC, and pen support is shit on any distro anyways.
>>53918172
>I thought theyd easily survive saltwater!
nothing survives saltwater for long.
>>53918140
>foreign babby can't into basic english
fucking lmao
>>53916929
There's a kit you can buy from taobao that puts a 1440p display in them.
>>53915192
I need some help, I dont want to start dismantling the screen just to find you cant replace the backlight or that the inverter broke
>>53918263
Link please :)
So any opinions on the T410s? Found one for $200 with a 128 ssd and 4GB of ram. Are the parts still replaceable in this model for me to upgrade ram in the future?
>>53916414
It was almost a pure downgrade from *30 series.
>1 DIMM slot
>removal of dedicated volume buttons
>trackpoint buttons totally sodomized
>low voltage haslel
>>53918297
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=43600546862&toSite=main
>1366x768
Seriously, you niggers need to kill yourselves.
All the stuff on gentoo is dated in terms of prices, what's a reasonable price for X220?
>>53918460
i just paid 150 for mine, i personally wouldnt pay over 200. i feel like the price is still right on the ktgee guide for a mint one
>>53918460
>>53918511
http://ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide
>Last updated 16 February 2016
Literally at the bottom of the page.
>>53918511
Did you get it on eBay? I'm worried about getting a password protected BIOS.
>>53918671
Thanks.
>>53918450
You're one dedicated shitposter
- Posted from my X220
>>53918804
I'm not >>53918511 but if you have the time and the confidence consider buying one in need of repairs, that's where the best savings are.
The documentation for making repairs is readily available online and the parts themselves are usually dirt cheap.
>>53918804
i did. it has a 14 day warranty, and i'm protected by paypal if it does have any lock on it. so i feel like its fine
>>53918804
>>53918909
I'd suggest paying by credit card too, they're usually the coolest about refunding payments if you get screwed in an online transaction.
>>53918263
>>53918297
>>53918447
Oh shit, you get one yourself?
I got myself a elitebook 8440p for $314 CAD after taxes slapped a second ssd in. What should I do next? Screen upgrade or ram or cpu? It's using a 520m. I am going to order a new battery as this one lasts 4-6 hours.
>>53919043
Put some sweet decals on it bro.
>>53918838
Are you sure you could even read my message with your cuck resolution, Jamal?
>>53919027
no, you need a taobao agent who you can trust really well, and then his commission + shipping to US would make that screen seem a lot less attractive... but i know some people on /fa/ use taobao agents so they can get their fake clothes and shit
there's also one in japan, but that one requires some soldering i think, not sure if this one does either though, but i know that when you do this upgrade you cant adjust screen brightness, its stuck on full bright
>>53919043
>I am going to order a new battery as this one lasts 4-6 hours.
What the fuck? 4-6 hours is pretty nice
>>53918856
What's considered beyond repair? Faulty motherboard? CPU?
Also, any bidding tips, /g/? This will be my first time using eBay.
ordered today E550
~420€
>LENOVO ThinkPad E550
>i3-5005U
>4GB
>500GB HDD
>15,6" HD
>DOS
>>53919131
>E
>i3
>420 yurobux
you dun goofd m9
>>53916003
Sorry boss, even the X220 at minimum settings sucks at CS GO. I sold my X220 tablet for an X230 tablet for exactly that reason.
>>53919156
why?
you are enjoying your 8 year old T400 that cost you 100€ 10 months ago?
>>53919120
first check out to see if you find any good buy it now options.
find ones nearest to you first, then watch those bids if they're at a low price
don't bid on things that have a few days left, totally useless and you're just bringing the price up.
only bid when there are MINUTES left, this is called sniping. keep refreshing and then raise your highest bid to what you'd pay for it max comfortably
>>53913067
>Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
wtf is there bigger screen?
>>53919131
Did you even read the guide?
http://ktgee.net/tpg
>>53919077
edit: the dude who installed the FHD mod on his x220 blew like 3 fuses, so that's probably why he cant adjust the brightness. there's bad documentation on how to actually install this kit, so that's probably why
also, here's the guide on how to install the Japanese kit.
http://letsitbe.jugem.jp/?eid=62
Hello, everyone. I have an HP Elitebook 2530p that won't boot. His battery LED keeps flashing constantly. The notebook is connected to the AC power and it does not have a battery (the previous owner removed it). I have already tried 2 power supplies, the first one was a universal one, the other was designed to supply exactly the voltage and the current needed (18.5 V @ 3.5 A). Has anyone of you solved this kind of problem before? Thanks in advance.
>>53919131
Were you dropped as a child?
>>53919156
gen 5 i3 though. that's not terrible.
>>53919226
I did not
dont care really about neckbeard guide who see two option - buying ancient shit for $100 or dropping $1400 on recent generation
not that I would bother with thinkpad with that kind of money, dell would be my choice
complains will be taken care of by 3 year warranty that was extra to it, here in EU we get 2 years by default
I get decent build quality, i get great keyboard
I get trackpad and good touchpad...
>>53919259
what would you buy thats new?
yeah... were you dropped in to water at around age 8 for 12 minute and now you go around in this awesome bus?
>>53919120
>What's considered beyond repair?
Depends entirely on what you're willing to do.
Anything can be repaired, it's more about cost vs benefit and THAT is more about the number of components that will need replacing, not the type.
You don't want to buy a complete lemon with every component fucked.
>Also, any bidding tips
I'll tell you the best strategy, don't treat it like an auction.
Work out the maximum price you would be willing to pay for the item.
Wait until the auction has between two and five seconds left, depending on your reaction time and internet speed.
Then you bid your maximum price.
Ebay doesn't immediately submit the actual amount you bid, it's more like a holding price.
If the current bid is 110 dollars and you bid 200, it'll bump the current bid up to 120 when you bid and then every time someone tries to outbid you it'll keep bumping the price up to just over their offer until it goes over your 200, and then they'll have top bid.
>>53919190
You bet I am.
Though I recently got the 420 for some 170$ and relegated the 400 to the server duty.
The E series is and always has been complete and utter shit. I had the pleasure to enjoy some of those, namely Edge 11 and 14 and E430. Aside from the horrible keyboard, the build quality was awful and both of the Edges had heat problems.
Which TPad would you recommend to a poorfag?I need reliable thing for programming.
>>53919348
x220.
>>53919306
you never had E450/E550 in your hands
any moron who says that Thinkpads T series keyboard is shit, because its in E series body is utter moron
check review boyo
And I actually worked on one 3 weeks back and know it quite well, thats why I choose it
you gonna have to wait when I leave to pretend in this circlejerk thread that you know what you are talking about
>>53919348
Programming? X201 or older.
Maybe an X220 if you can get a good deal.
>>53919362
>>53919404
what prices should I expect?
Are there any thinkpads with 1920x1080 in a 13" screen? I can't go back to 1366x768... prefereably also an SSD as well.
How much am I looking at?
Best I can get for $500?
>>53919390
Has it occured to you that I was referring to the newer style keyboard in general?
I don't care if it is in a new T series or in an E series. It is shit regardless of its place.
>>53919482
Where do you live?
>>53919512
it did not, and I do like the old keyboard style more than chiclet
but whatever, he was attacking it like it was $200 hp or asus
even as hyperbole it was too much
>>53919348
As an owner of an X220 and T430, I'd say get a cheap T-series instead of an X series. The extra screen real estate is nice for programming with the T-series, unless you can find an X-series with a 1600x900 screen, then X-series all the way. But the major thing is to get a 1600x900 screen.
>>53919213
T520 for 15" screen, or a 700ds for 17" screen with neat little pullout secondary screen.
>>53919527
Europe,shit tier country
>>53919497
If you want FHD in an X series ThinkPad, I believe you need to buy an X240 or newer. That's when they first came available with FHD screens.
Does Thinkpad now being owned by chinese company changed anything drastically?
>>53920030
theyre built in japan, apparently
Replaced that shitty no-buttons trackpad on my t440s with the new t450 variant.
I no longer want to throw the damn thing out the fucking window every time I right click.
>>53919171
No worries. I happen to have x230t as well for that.
hey guys, fella on Craigslist is selling a T420s for about $180. is that worth it?
Thinkpad T420, bought for £165 ($235) off Gumtree. Came with original 9 cell battery and charger, Specs in screenshot
1st day of Arch, still need to install i3 and rice it up.
>>53921083
Absolutely, go for it.
Just check the guide in OP for possible pitfalls, so you don't end up with a bios locked paperweight.
>>53921132
>Account name: anon
kek.
>>53921236
cool! thank you anon
I decided I'd pull out my R61 for a bit, just to see how it still holds up.
And god fucking damn the keyboard is so much better than the one on my Yoga 2 Pro.
Is the keyboard on the T420 any good? I'm tempted to buy one
>>53921435
its amazing
>>53921435
make sure you get a 1600x900 screen T420 though. install a Linux distro with i3-wm to free the most amount of pixels on your screen
>>53921524
Implying Lenovo's new consumerpads are in anyway better than the Flexpad T520 series.
>>53921466
The screen has me worried because my Yoga 2 Pro has a 3200x1800 screen, and I'm spoiled by it
>>53921524
ya boi Louis Rossmann
seriously though is YouTube channel is great
>>53921568
Half your resolution and try it out.
>>53921624
I think I'll just go with a T520 and get a 1080p screen for that
Can someone ID this Thinkpad? Also, worth the price?
https://greensboro.craigslist.org/sys/5527818987.html
>>53922070
Might be wrong, but looks like maybe a T60 or T60p. I personally wouldn't, IBM thinkpads are neat and have a nice 16:10 screen ratio, but the hardware is pretty outdated. I would'nt get anything older than an X220 or T420 so you have a Sandybridge cpu.
Has anyone tried the new ps4 remote play with their i5 based t420 machines? Probably a wasted effort to ask since it requires windows 10. Would try it myself but don't want to go through that hassle in case it doesn't work.
>>53916034
Got a link to the advert, also in the UK and looking for an X220 at the moment.
Some retailer on eBay has a lot of his thinkpads with the disclaimer: "white spots on screen."
Anyone with experience know what to expect? A few dead pixels or what
Can you install windows 10 on the t420?
I need it for excel shit in the office.
>>53922580
Of course you can..
>>53922536
when a little bit of debris works itself into the screen (happens to any screen that's not sealed-- almost none are), it wears fuzzy patches into the backlight diffuser. This has happened more and more as screens have gotten thinner.
It's usually an elongated area the size of one or two quarters where the backlight is brighter.
>>53922608
I have dirt under my IPS panel x220. is it simple to fix?
What should I offer this guy?
Lenovo Thinkpad T420 ($250)
i5-2520M CPU @ 2.5 GHz 772 MHz, 4GB of RAM.
Graphics: HD Graphics 3000.
>>53916418
it has usb 3 though
What is the point of a dock?
I'm new the thinkpad meme™. I have an x220 running gentoo and I love it but what does the dock do? Why would I want a dock?
>>53922677
Take your laptop to work and use it like a barbarian on the 12" screen. Take it home and put it on your dock that's connected to 3 monitors and a mechanical keyboard + favorite mouse without fussing with usbs and wires.
At least, that's what I assume it's supposed to be used for.
>>53922632
>Lenovo Thinkpad T420 ($250)
>i5-2520M CPU @ 2.5 GHz 772 MHz, 4GB of RAM.
>Graphics: HD Graphics 3000.
768p = 130-150
900p = 150-175
>>53918366
i have 2 Slots on my t440p so whatever
https://youtu.be/pu2NoDtvh2E?t=3m
>mfw they just play the clip of them pulling it out in reverse
>>53922070
It's a 15" T60. It would make a decent base for a T601F, but you'll have to replace the 1024x768 screen with one of the better options.
>>53922383
I already have a T420, I want to get an IBM era Thinkpad for my collection
>>53923097
Confirming this. 1400x1050 AFFS screens for these aren't prohibitively expensive.
My company is providing me a new notebook for work, but offered to sell me my existing Dell E6250 pre-tax for $200. It's a fairly decent Sandybridge i5, but I'll likely be upgrading to 8gb RAM if I move on it. I could also probably use a battery at this point, so I'm looking at a total of $260 for it. Seem like a decent deal?
>>53923440
And by that, I mean E6520...
>>53922608
So I shouldn't worry about it right?
how does tf2 run under xubuntu on an x220?
>>53923533
Not well, I can assume. CSGO runs at about 25 fps on Wangblows.
>>53923561
yeah, xubuntu is much more lightweight than win10, and tf2 is a lot easier to run than csgo. so probably should run well
>>53923426
>tfw bought a UXGA compatible TN instead and it's fucking shit
>don't want to buy an SXGA Flexview now because it'll be a resolution downgrade
>everyone who has a UXGA Flexview T60/p knows what they've got and wants $300+ for a ten-year-old laptop
i just want to die
>>53923749
I had a SXGA in my 14.1" T60p so it was more of a lateral move for me.
The T60p that was the vessel for my T601F came with an UXGA flexview but there were pressure bruises from some dumb cunt poking at the screen that I couldn't live with day to day.
>>53922528
Well mate, I can report back that after going and checking out the laptops at his flat on the dodgiest council estate I've ever seen they were all password locked at the BIOS.
When I mentioned the possibility of them being stolen he got really mad, tried to sell me weed, and then threw me out.
The ad is gone but I suspect it'll be back up in a day or two, search Birmingham craigslist over the weekend if you're interested.
>>53924384
>Birmingham
I'm so sorry.
Starting a new IT job soon where I would be traveling around the US and doing IT work for various places. Picked up a Dell Latitude E6420 for $130 with the charger off ebay. It does not have a lot of RAM or storage, but I have a 500GB HDD I can use and I can order 8GB of RAM easily. I would mainly be using it for work/diagnostic stuff and maybe some youtube/web browsing.
Is it any good? Anything I should be aware of? The processor is a 2nd Gen i5, so it should be more then enough for what I need.
>>53924525
Thanks. I've applied for refugee status in Syria, hoping for the best.
>>53924541
Why are you asking for advice on something you already bought?
>>53922625
well, no.
>>53923521
It's a cosmetic defect in the screen. It will get worse slowly. It's not going to break the screen.
Why don't Lenovo make any more 11.6" laptops which aren't shitty Yogas or 'IdeaPads'?
I have pic related and its a brilliant machine. I wish Lenovo would make a version of this updated with current level specs for around £350 - £400.
>>53919306
>horrible keyboard
E130 here, you fail to realize that this particular model is basically identical to the x121e from like a year before, it just had upgraded specs. Build quality is great, its a solid machine and the keyboard is amazing to type on. Lenovo really hit the spot with this design, the trackpad isn't huge because you barely use it much anyway, its big enough for the small part it plays, very nicely positioned trackpoint buttons with excellent feedback too.
Any real problems with this machine that I've not noticed or are you just a brainless alphabet elitist who questions nothing with an X in the name? We all know shit like the IdeaPads are terrible but the older E series machines aren't too bad, the E130 isn't bad at all, its amazing.
>>53924613
Same reason people ask whether a show or movie was good on /tv/ after they watched it. Millennials need their opinions fed to them from anonymous masturbating Tibetan basket weavers.
Is an X230 for $120 a good deal? i5, 4gb ram, 320gb hard drive? Some small damage?
is the t420 still completely worth, or is there a better value model?
>>53925080
Depends on the damage. The palm rests always crack and that's not a big deal to replace but if the lid or hinges are wrecked, keep looking.
What's the best model for potable use with good battery life without giving up my left nut to buy it? I'd like to buy new.
>>53919957
>1080p on a X240
it's 183ppi, I think that's too much for such a small display
>>53918366
>no more ultrabay
>no expresscard
>no thinklight
>>53925373
>getting a quality product for a low price new
Wouldn't we all like that. Time to suck it up and get ready to buy used or burn a hole in your wallet.
>>53925107
Still worth it
>>53925450
I agree, but the anon asked for a 13" screen, so I recc'd to him the X series.
>>53916003
why do everyone here watch chinese cartoons?
>>53925659
>>53925667
>Chink sees you with an iPhone he made
>>53925601
I'm not looking for dirt cheap, just under like $900-$1000 (I'm unfamiliar with any of the thinkpads). Do you have any recommendations or are you just gonna be a cunt?
>>53921586
I really like his video about the trackpoint fail on lenovo's new thinkpads.
>>53925752
Buy on the official lenovo website using the discount code in the OP, mess around with the X260,T460/560, and P50/s custimizations. With the discount code you should be able to get a very nice laptop. The 460 and 560 basically cost the same so really whether you wanr 14in or 15.6in. Just make sure you get an "FHD" display if you want at least 1080p
So guys
Heres a weird question, how is the webcam on lets say a t420 thinkpad?
I'm asking because my grandma needs a new laptop but since she talks to my parents a lot on skype, a nice camera is a necessity (doesn't have to be HD 1080P FULL HD shit but you get the idea, speak-able quality)
>>53925866
i have never used it for skype, but here is a picture taken with it.
>>53925976
Not bad, my latitude is 640x480 with just as much noise.
Is my battery gonna explode or is it fine? Its just the case peeling back and there isn't any way for me to really fix it.
>>53926336
It won't explode, at worst it would just break the case open, at least with a thinkpad, it's on the exterior and won't destroy your laptop.
>>53926336
just dont fuck with it and maybe buy a replacement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAZ62tUtc0w
>>53926361
More concerned about my penis than my 200$ computer desu dude
>>53926407
Your genitalia will be just fine, my white macnook battery got huge when it bulged, so much that it broke the laptop's plastic casing, and still didn't injure me.
X220 owners, just scored this bad boy near mint to upgrade from my aging x201.
I had a couple of questions, what are yours upgraded with?
Can i put in an mSata drive and still keep wifi?
I am a bit confused about that.
Pic related.
>>53926682
i havent heard anything about losing wifi with installing an msata drive.
> broke
> t500 for $105 off cl
> "hey i could do that much, awesome."
> order, drive an hour pick it up
> all good? nope
> open lid, see 'centrino' and, because i'm an idiot, think they swapped out the processor
> call, say i'm coming back to drop off the laptop, and i want my money back
> "ok we could issue a full refund and mail a package slip..."
> nope. i'm driving there and dropping it off
...just discovered the centrino is not what i thought it was, and the purchase was 100% legit. i'm calling tomorrow and going to apologize, and i should get them donuts for the trouble but i can't.
in the meantime i bought a t420 off eBay and hope i really dont ripped off this time even though i should be.
=(
>>53913545
Is there some actual reason you cant just run synergy?
>>53926682
There's a second slot for WWAN. If you don't have WWAN it'll be empty and you can use the mSATA drive in that.
>>53926713
>>53926962
I thought that the wifi card is taking up the mSata slot.
I will crack it open this weekend and see if i can throw in a drive. That would be dope.
I also hear these can take 16gb?
>>53926838
You should commit suicide out of shame and leave those poor people alone.
>>53926838
If they were scamming surely they'd leave better CPU stickers on... God you're dumb.
>>53927042
Depends how many PCIe looking slots you have. Pic related is the same machine as mine, its got one PCIe slot taken up by the wifi card (which usually will not support an mSATA SSD) and its got a spare space, that spare space is for an mSATA drive. I've got an EVO 850 in mine.
>>53927042
Just to clarify, if you've only got one available slot, you probably wont be able to put anything in there other than a network card.
>>53913627
Really the only good thing are USB ports. Expresscard SSDs are expensive as dicks, and there's not really a point to eGPUs, as a desktop with a graphics card is way more useful and powerful.
>>53927042
I just put a mSata SSD in my x220t today. The wifi was right next to the mSata slot.
>>53923533
I could barely get to play it in a acceptable framer rate in my T420s. Like, 25FPS with everything turned down.
Just got a x200t with the ultrabase in great condition for 75$ total. How long should I expect the hinge and screen/stylus to last with daily use? I can't seem to find any documentation on it failing.
>>53925107
T440 might be better value, just change the cancer trackpad.
>>53927513
Screen and hinge last ~ forever. Stylus depends on use, but spare tips cost ~ nothing on eBay.
>tfw getting X1 carbon today
Gonna use it as a tool to learn Linux / Debian.
>>53927187
wow what model is that, kawaii
This isn't chinkpad related, but it had me rollin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgGTSDh-j6w
>>53928639
enjoy your shallow travel keyboard
>>53930923
Is it that bad?
>>53913067
I know tpg doesn't like talking about it but how does a e550 compare to a x220 in terms of power, battery life and heat?
I bought an X201 last year from this asian student who had taken really good care of it, you could tell it was his baby. He had installed a 128gb SSD in it but that's about it, stock i5 and 4gb RAM.
I fucking love this laptop, the keyboard is just amazing. It feels so nice and I literally never make mistakes when typing. I'm running Fedora 23 workstation on it currently and it just works flawlessly. I was previously using it as a SAP server for ABAP dev in windows and again it performed really well for that purpose. Now it's just my baby for sitting in bed and tinkering.
I paid 150 AUD for it and honestly I feel really happy with how much I spent.
>>53924891
Not him but I believe there is a certain group of people here who worship the original 7 row 'mechanical' keyboards from the older models and simply refuse to even acknowledge that the newer model might not be as shit as they imagine it to be.
Other than that I have to disagree in part. I was until recently using an Edge 11 which is too one of the older E series and the build quality was quite lacking. At some point I also had to switch the mobo because the graphics died. Though that might have something to do with it being an AMD model. Other than that, yeah, it was quite nifty little machine.
>>53919076
aren't the letters bigger on a smaller resolution?
>>53931434
Good buy, I'm also the kind of person to pay a little extra for a laptop that is a pampered desk baby.
>>53931499
Of course they are
>>53930953
Man, I'm not that guy. But for real it's a matter of preference.
I have actually met some mutants who prefer the chiclet keyboard.
>>53930953
Think of it this way.
The old (good) keyboard is like a normal keyboard. It is a sea of keys through which your fingers flow and knowledge ebbs. It is an ocean purely of typing essence. It is magnificent. It is powerful. Grand and romantic, it is unrivaled by its utility, nostalgic value, and affinity for humanity's usage.
The new chiclet keyboard (bad) is like puddles of seived diarrhoeal fluid layed over an Indian landfill. It is surely a marvel, but is of little use, and you only want to say you were there to impress your normie friends with doing volunteer work in the third world.
>>53931829
Well one can get used to typing on shit. I have a lenovo chiclet keyboard at work that I love.
Anyone here using a USB 3 express card in their older thinkpads? How well do they work? Do they have any impact on battery life?
>>53931978
Yes they have. And a big one.
I only use USB3.0 at home fortunately.
>>53913067
I got my first ThinkPad today off eBay. X220 - excellent condition. Early observations: The keyboard is glorious, apart from FN and Ctrl which I have switched the BIOS. Fairly impressed so far.
>>53932253
Pick up an IPS panel from ebay senpai.
