Thinking about majoring in CS or CIS or IT
that being said i know NOTHING about coding, where should i dip my toes in the water to learn more and to see if im even capable of doing so
im /g/ newfag so sorry if this is shitposting
>>53907122
Go to YouTube and search up newboston or whatever his name is. Spend a few hours in Java or C# or some web dev shit like JavaScript or Python I don't know.
If you like doing fake math and making shit in program then congratulations the life of a code monkey maintenance guy is for you.
Reminder that CS is based upon math and logic and you'll either get a network admin job or end up writing algorithms daily to give 5% increases in software speed.
IT guys reinstall printer drivers for a living
There will be a babby course in computing at your university if your university has a good compsci program at all.
>>53907280
>IT guys reinstall printer drivers for a living
"Information Technology" is a pretty broad category. There are Pajeets in Help Desk making $0.25 an hour and there are Network Architects making well over $200k annually, both can be considered IT.
My best advice if you are trying to work in IT is skip the IT meme degree and just work your way up. 4 years of related experience and a few certs are generally more valuable.
Do you want to write new technologies to be used in the world? CS
Do you want to implement existing technologies into the world? CiS/IT
anyone without brain damage can major in CS; all you need is discipline.
IT on the other hand you don't need shit.
>>53907554
>>53907579
I just dont want to be that meme ITT tech kind of guy, if i went IT id get a 4 year degree from a state university
>>53907579
>anyone
>>53907554
Wow, this.
As a faggot doing IT, this us what I've learned. Scripting, App Design, Web Dev, Software Engineering, Computer Systems, etc. We've learned like the basics of everything, we're not specialised in anything and we certainly don't know how the tools we used were created but, you sure learn about many categories. I can't imagine doing CS but I really want to go more in depth in programming. I guess I'll just teach myself.
IT is a bullshit major
It's on the level of woman's education
>>53907379
Also this post is breddy good too. A lot of IT programs are not worth their salt, and 4 years experience (and no debt) is very much valued compared to say, a devry IT degree.
This isnt always true though. For the most part the work your way up the ladder idea is how a lot of current higher IT execs got their jobs. A lot of experienced IT didnt have a degree and got into the field early on. Today though, whether the reality alligns or not, a degree is needed for that higher ceiling in IT, mostly because degrees are becoming a bottom qualifier for a lot of HR. If you want to break the 100k (head/director or mgmt position ) in a timely fashion, entering the job market today, a degree makes a hell of a difference.
Also, some IT programs may actually be worth the time and money. With grants and scholarships im looking to graduate with less than 9k in debt which is pretty good for student loans. Also my IT program is one of very few to be accredited by the Abet and have the degree awarded through the engineering school. To me, the value is there, though I also feel very weak with no real work experience in the field aside from a few internships.
>>53907658
yeah im looking at the university of north texas, which is abet accredited and the degree would be from the school of engineering
>>53907122
do meth. don't worry about degrees and shit.
>>53907621
My IT program is very CS focused at its core. First 2 years of a CS major are virtually the same. We take programming 1 and 2 (python then c++), data structures, stat, calc, discrete 1 and 2.
Later on the CS guys do more calc, probability, linear, crypto, assembly etc.
We do network and database admin related stuff and an internship is required while CS doesnt require it :/
>>53907805
Abet accreditation def worth something. Especially if youre intending to be a big shot network architect. Even though that falls into IT, a lot of the higher level networking shit is CS/engineers territory by employer preference of course.
So as an IT major i think accreditation is a big plus to be competitive within the field. Or maybe its a meme, well see how it plays out.
>>53907122
there are a bunch of people in my class who chose to major in IT for various reasons. Some of which are:
>I saw that this course has the least amount of homework assignments (not accounting for the difficulty of the assignments at all)
>I like video games
>I dont' know
>I like the internet
before you ask, yes, this is 100% truth.
none of them know anything about programming. none of them know anything about how to fix computers. it will come as no surprise that they are all failing the course, and we havent' even had our first exam yet.
if you can't definitively answer with at least ten reasons why you chose CS because you have a deep seated interest, and passion for it, AND HAVE PRACTICED AUTODIDACTISM AS PART OF YOUR LIFESTYLE you will not do well in CS.
>>53907906
>Abet accreditation def worth something.
ive only seen one job posting that wanted an abet cs degree, and it was for some too secret cleary shit.
abet is important for engineering because you need it to get a pe license.