"I'd just like to interject for a moment" edition
Old as a tortoise: 53885509
Welcome to /fg/lt/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /fg+lt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
>>53891471
I fucked up. Old thread: >>53885509
Didn't link it.
How do I install GTK themes on Debian?
Do I just go to Appearance? I can't find anything else and it's not sounding like how other people are describing it from googling.
>>53891579
>How do I install GTK themes on Debian?
You've been told at least 3 times already.
Edit the gtkrc files in your home. Or use lxappearance.
For future reference, "not how other people describe it" is fuck all information for us, we don't know "other people" have told you or what you are actually doing.
>>53891605
I meant
>Ok if all went fine you should have every available debian theme engine. When you find your icon theme/or gtk2 theme or mouse theme that you would like to use open appearance and drag and drop the theme file you downloaded to the appearance window. Now it should be installed.
>To apply themes you like hit the "customize" button and there you can mix different window borders with for example different mouse themes.
Is literally not even existent. The fuck?
>>53891639
Read an actual wiki page instead of a blog
What sort of people would you *NOT* recommend to use GNU/Linux ?
Every day I see more and more common-place software get better in our camp, but I'm wondering which areas FOSS hasn't really delved deeply enough into to still be unattractive to end-users
>>53891668
Literally everyone can use it.
Gnu/Linux is simple enough for even the most basic user - an elderly person to the most advanced neckbeard user.
You can literally install a distro like Kubuntu or Mint and with NO configuration it can function better than a Windows installation. There's really no reason NOT to use Gnu/Linux these days.
>>53891668
My dad, he only uses pre-installed/pre-configured software from his company that hasn't been updated in 10 years.
XP, desktop full of useless old shit, things like that. No interest in changing because he hates computers.
Two problems I've been having with my Mint installation and I thought I'd come here to get some help seeings as this is meant to be the friendly linux thread and /sqt/ never helps with this sort of stuff.
Every time I boot up my Linux Mint installation I get the default wallpaper and it's giving me the shits. Every time I google fixes it comes up with crap for Mint 12 when it was actually hard to change the wallpaper in the first place. Anyone know what's going on?
Second problem is that whenever I boot up Banshee loses all my music, it's stored on another HDD that is shared with my Windows installation and every time I start up I have to delete all the songs from Banshee and re-import which is pretty inconvenient when I just want to listen to music, not shutting down is a no-go because there's still some applications on Windows that I need (Photoshop and some games). Any ideas on how to fix this? I'm not particularly stoked on Banshee anyway so recommendations for a nice minimal music player similar to Foobar2k would be great.
I know this should really be in the /sqt/ but I've posted there twice and gotten no answers.
>>53891708
>his company
*the company he works for
It's a huge multi national company but his laptop hasn't had maintenance in a decade.
>>53891702
I think I didn't express myself clearly. I understand that making the switch for a basic user is very easy and actually convenient. I'm talking about which special-use-cases are still kind of weak on the free software end of the spectrum (at least that you guys can think of)
>>53891708
>>53891734
Man, that really sucks
>been trying to install Arch for the past few hours
I keep making retarded mistakes.
But at least I'm learning.
>>53891732
Move them to your linux HDD
>>53891745
It's not that bad, he's almost 60 and basically uses the computer they gave him to pretend like he reads emails he doesn't give a shit about.
>It's part of the job
He doesn't care.
>>53891745
>I'm talking about which special-use-cases are still kind of weak on the free software end of the spectrum (at least that you guys can think of)
Windows-specific software is the only one I can think of.
Although this can be defeated with Wine + using Windows VM.
For literally everything else, Gnu/Linux works perfectly(as perfect as you make it I guess).
But alas, for Business and graphic design and such you're generally forced to use Photoshop or whatever Adobe products and Microsoft Office products. -- Anything else won't really work, for example Excel is much different from Libreoffice and the formatting and everything can be fucked up which has been known to fuck up people's jobs lmao.
>Try to open important slideshow presentation made in Libreoffice
>Formatting is all screwed up and you're at an important business gathering with important clients
>>53891805
They could always just save the Libreoffice presentation as a PDF and present that during the meeting in fullscreen. The only thing they'd miss is animations and no one really cares about those
At least that's what my colleagues do
>>53891805
I'm guessing there's just nothing to compete with the likes of ProTools for Audio Engineering in the FOSS camp, sadly
Or am I wrong?
I've installed arch and I'm now downloading kde, but literally every other package 404s for two minutes before finally downloading. Is this common? What's the deal?
>>53891858
Actually the pro tools area is fairly well covered in terms of audio, not sure how it compares with video.
The one place FOSS fails currently is with electronic based music, there's no decent alternative to ableton.
>>53891861pacman -Sy
Your mirror updated, you didn't.
>run plasma wayland session
>that font rendering
virtual desktops don't work though (you just kind of cross over into the void)
>>53891861
Did you update before installing KDE? The last time that happened to me it was pacman looking for a mirror that had outdated packages because I forgot to update
>>53891835
True, you can do that. Good idea actually(for documents), but you never know, sometimes your boss might throw a fit over the animations. -- Some are really anal about some shit and if you even have SLIGHTLY off formatting or animations they'll be up your ass and force you to re-do it.
Also Microsoft Excel(for better or for worse) is an industry-standard and you'll be fucked with Libre. And no real way to get around it.
>>53891858
>>53891893
Pretty much actually. Some Windows-specific software can really cuck you.
>>53891951
>not using systemd
Found your problem.
>>53891899
>>53891917
Thanks. It's working now.
>>53891861
As previously said, you should update the repos often on arch.
But edit your mirror list will speed up your experience, removing repositories that always report 404 even when you update.
>>53891919
I actually agree with the excel part.
You can't replace it if you share it with other people.
The rest has been fixed but the flaws of excel is mostly hidden if everyone uses the same install of excel.
I work with non English speaking people and excel translates everything when they open it and it sometimes causes problems.
Anyway... Excel works fine under Linux, what is the problem?
>>53891916
>touchpad driver doesn't have muh two finger middle button
>task bar doesn't work
>black lines around my application menu
>can't take screenshots
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, linux-libre/GNU, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, linux-libre + GNU. GNU is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component slapped onto a fork of the useful Linux kernel, called linux-libre. The GNU project didn't manage to finish a working kernel replacement for Linux, which they tried with HURD after 20 years of developement. Many computer users run a modified version of the Linux kernel every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Linux, which is widely used today is often called "GNU/Linux", and many its users are not aware that it is basically the Linux kernel, developed by volunteers all over the world, maybe with a few userland packages added. There really is a GNU, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
>>53891760
Would prefer not to have a separate HDD for Linux as I'm dual booting from a single partitioned SSD with a larger HDD for media storage. Any other ways to get it to work?
>>53891668
Mechanical engineering.
Take something like autodesk inventor.
It uses too much resources to be used in a wm, uses excel as a dependency if you want to do things like add holes in your design.
And there is no good alternatives.
But if you look at how expensive the license is, you can see why free software isn't winning on that front.
Imagine people were willing to donate $2500/year per user to a project that would replace the autodesk suite?
How do I stop tearing in openbox?
I installed compton, but I still get video tearing.
I am also using the propriatary nvidia drivers.
>>53891471
Is slackware any good?
also is lo/g/os done?
I checked the github and it actually has stuff in it, but I don't know if it's finished.
>>53892167
You want to automount your Windows partition on boot
>>53892411
>Is slackware any good?
Not particularly, it's based on an outdated idea. It works but that's not to say it is good.
>>53891732
I don't know about the wallpaper, if it is a bug, you could always rename the default to something else and call your wallpaper the default. Everything is a file, so it should be easy to do.
The music thing might because windows is really weird about their file systems.
How do you mount it? Manually or in fstab? If you do it manually, it won't be present at boot, so that might be the problem.
I personally use cmus in a drop down terminal. It just stores the path of the files, and if that doesn't change, it doesn't matter if it isn't there at boot (even when playing)
So check to see if you are mounting the drive at the same location every time, that might be it. If you manually mount it from a file manager, that might be the problem.
Mount it, open a terminal and write "df -h"
There you can see what device it is and where it is mounted. You can see what is what from the size information.
If you want, you can use that information in your /etc/fstab
>>53892515
Appending: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NTFS-3G is a decent writeup.
Holy shit lo/g/os is real https://mega.nz/#!vocnTSDR!I4dpkby6Dew3O0ur3BUJEX1ULJDFMX2tLjFfX3-BWKw
>>53891471
So I just installed Debian. My Netgear WNA1000M was a plug n' play on Ubuntu. Now it doesn't work on debian, and I can't download the firmware for it as my router is across the house. How do I get this thing to work?
>>53892411
go with lo/g/os. slackware is a secret club now
What icon pack should I use for XFCE?
where do I find the ebin ones? Xfce-look is kind of limited desu.
>>53891732
Do you happen to use cinnamon? If so, you can cycle around some predefined backgrounds with this script. Adjust the image names to your prefered ones. Save that as whatever.sh, then:chmod +x whatever.sh
You may create a launcher by right-clicking on the desktop and selecting "create new launcher here", then choosing the path to whatever.sh as the command.
If you don't even want to click that you may just run this script somewhere upon startup.
whatever.sh:#!/bin/bash
FIRST_WALLPAPER="file:///home/username/whatever/1444262.jpg"
SECOND_WALLPAPER="file:///home/username/whatever/vinod_light.jpg"
CURRENT_WALLPAPER=`gsettings get org.cinnamon.desktop.background picture-uri`
if [ ${CURRENT_WALLPAPER} = \'${FIRST_WALLPAPER}\' ]; then
gsettings set org.cinnamon.desktop.background picture-uri ${SECOND_WALLPAPER}
else
gsettings set org.cinnamon.desktop.background picture-uri ${FIRST_WALLPAPER}
fi
>>53892657
should've used the iso that includes firmware, but can you seriously not think of a way to transfer one file without wifi
Now I was really curious, did Linus Torvalds ever say shit about Mint or Cinnamon?
google shows a thousand links unrelated to my queries
>>53892869
Well I have a USB, I could but the .tar file on that, but IDK how to install the firmware.
>>53892657
You should be able to check the udevadm monitor -k -u output while you plug it in to see specifically what firmware file it is requesting (if you have the right driver).
>>53892895
grab the firmware-realtek deb off https://packages.debian.org for your version and install it
>>53892515
Yeah, I'm mounting it manually at the moment, seems like if I open the drive before I start up banshee it mounts no problems and plays music when I want it to so it has to be mounting in the same place each time, just not mounting at start up. Pretty new to Linux so is there any way to get it to mount automatically? It's NTFS btw.
>>53892817
I'll give this a go when I get more time, though it's pretty annoying have to do a workaround for something so basic.
Hello friends.
Installed libprint on my t420 but I cannot make this thing to work in the first login screen of mint.
Halp please, I hate passwords.
>>53894045
Maybe it's unsupported in old versions. Latest Mint is 14.04 after all. Works out-of-the-box on my X200 in Fedora 23.
Just speculation, obviously.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, Linux(linux-libre(fsfla))/GNU(GPLv3)+coreutils, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Linux(linux-libre(fsfla)) + GNU(GPLv3)+coreutils. GNU's not GNotU(GNUs not U) is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component slapped onto a fork of the useful Linux kernel, called Linux(linux-libre(fsfla)) for linux kernel. The GNU's not GNotU(GNUs not U) project didn't manage to finish a working kernel replacement for Linux(linux-libre(fsfla)), which they tried with HURD after 20 years of developement. Many computer users run a modified version of the Linux(linux-libre(fsfla)) kernel every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Linux(linux-libre(fsfla)), which is widely used today is often called "GNU(GPLv3)+coreutils/Linux(linux-libre(fsfla))", and many its users are not aware that it is basically the Linux(linux-libre(fsfla)) kernel, developed by volunteers all over the world, maybe with a few userland packages added. There really is a GNU(GPLv3)+coreutils, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Is it safe to assume that scripts located on a noexec-mounted partition can still be executed by running e.g. ‘python script.py’?
>>53894045
Actually, what was it exactly that you installed? I looked things up, and the only Ubuntu packages (with there being no Mint-specific ones) that begin with libprint are printer-related ones. Search for fprint and you'll find more relevant stuff.
I was a huge fan on eOS back when it was popular. I'm trying to convert back to linux, since you know windows sucks and all that. I'm currently installing Kubuntu and I'll return with some comments on how I like it.
>>53892411
More timesink than Arch
>>53894735
>computers a not a hobby
>>53894529
yes
How do i remove the 'save' icon on puppy linux?
I've tried right click remove, editing the rcsystem file but it still comes back
>>53894828
Figured. Reason I'm asking is I'm pondering the easiest (laziest) ways of mitigating one of the greatest security risks in a server, namely a malicious actor getting shell access through one of the users. I reckoned one way of doing it would be to mount /home with noexec to at least stop them from bringing binaries, leading to the thought of scripts.
In my own case all my users except myself access the server through Windows machines on a regular basis, and there are at least a couple of them I can't praise for best security practices. I'm not too worried, I should add, just thinking about it for the hell of it.
It strikes me /tmp would have to be mounted noexec as well for that to mean anything. Does anyone know of anything that relies on putting executables in /tmp and subsequently executing them? Seems unlikely to me, but what do I know.
>>53894980
You can pass elf binaries as arguments to /lib/ld-linux.so.2 and execute. ... Just tested that with a tmpfs mounted noexec and I goterror while loading shared libraries: failed to map segment from shared objectso I guess binaries in a noexec partition are safe enough.
>>53892681
Just use Numix, dude.
>>53894703
Well I got it up and running, and it's p. cool. I'd like to get java 8 on here, but that'll have to wait.
So I installed xubuntu now, alongside W10, but how the fuck do I even boot into it. Didnt see the option in the Bios, and it boots to W10 on default
Only thing what happens is that windows wants to clean my drive on startup lmao
>>53895175
on bootup there should be a menu that asks you to choose which os you want to start
that menu will choose a default if you don't respond in ~2 seconds
at least it's how it works for me ;)
What does the third bullet point mean?
I'm trying to set up openvpn on a rented virtual server.
>>53895209
Before the Bios, afterwards?
>>53895250
After the bios splash screen.
If there isn't a black screen with white text like that, the installer probably didn't install grub correctly.
>>53895175
It's probably your partitioning. I'm a rookie so I don't remember exactly how it works, but I think there is some special specific thing you have to do when you're manually adjusting partitions during install. That would break the grub bootloader.
>>53895269
How do I fix it? Do I have to format my SSD?
trying to get rss working with rutorrent, I get the messagerss: Some functionality will be unavailable. Webserver user can't access external program (curl)on the webgui
I put/usr/bin/curlinto open_basedir in /etc/php/php.ini like some sites suggested but it's still not working
>mfw slackware 14.2 release imminent
>>53892371
Make sure compton is configured properly
>>53896022
in 2020, unless you keep up with alien
>>53896056
release candidate 1 was declared march 17th dude
ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/ChangeLog.txt
>>53896066
/flt/ inside joke
>>53896098
:^)
>>53896122
why are you using stable anyway? current is far more useful.
>>53896022
Why do people still use this garbage. Install Gentoo
>tfw you finally get Gentoo in a nice, workable state
Feels great, minus the compile times. I'd like to thank everyone in these threads who's helped me out.
>>53896147
not him but muh stability, and not in a retarded debian way
>>53896320
current is pretty much stable with newer packages.
the only issue i've had was: downgrading cmake from 3.5.1 to 3.4.3 to compile one program.
and the i upgraded back to 3.5.1
also whats with the recent influx of slacktalk?
Hey guys.
2 question.
1) I just got an old macbook 4.1 and I like to run it with linux. Which linux is the most userfriendly and still not slowing down the mac. I am used to WS7 but there is no way I am using WS10 so it is about time to change. I am thinking about Mint 17.2
2) someone know how to boot linux on a Mac? I tried to do it with an USB but that doesnt work. Also the CD-Slot is broken. Is there any way?
thanks
What's a way to automate GUI programs?
I need to tweak an image slightly in Inkscape, but I don't want to manually do it every time. I checked and Inkscape doesn't have a CLI version, so I'm out of ideas. The same with GIMP.
Am I doomed to do it forever by hand?
>>53896739
xdotool or xmacro.
threadly reminder that you aren't a programming just because you use Leenix
>>53896739
I don't know about Inkscape, but GIMP does support scripting. There's also ImageMagick if you don't want to start a graphical application.
Doing it would xdotool or xmacro as Anon suggests, while hardly elegant and with a number of caveats, could also work.
so what do you guys use to sync to your android phone like pushbullet or airdroid?
Fedora users especially since that's what I am running
>>53896807
no shit.
>>53896808
>>53896767
Thanks. I realized I can just edit the SVG files with sed to replace a color. Now I just need to see if GIMP can be automated without xdotool/>>53896767
xmacro.
>>53897105
I found that script-fu thing in GIMP. There's a preset function that does exactly what I want. However I can't get it to work from the command line. Doinggimp -i -b "(gimp-colorize my_image.png 100 50 30) -b "(gimp-quit 0)"
gives me an error "unbound variable: radio-checked.png". I don't know scheme, so do I really have to pass it a variable instead of a direct filename?
>>53897512
Check the quotes, you seem to be missing one after ) I guess.
>>53897541
My bad, I pasted it badly on here. Here's the actual, error free command.gimp -i -b '(gimp-colorize "my_file.png" 208 44 14)' -b '(gimp-quit 0)'
Having my_file.png in quotes gives me an "invalid type for argument 1" error. Leaving the quotes out gives me "unbound local variable". How do I pass a filename to this?
>>53895126
nice blog post
>>53897619
I have no idea but do you need the file name in there? Can't you do something like:gimp -i -b '(gimp-colorize 208 44 14)' my_file.png -b '(gimp-quit 0)'
That would look more of a normal kind of structure to me but I'm only guessing.
>>53896817
I haven't set anything up myself, but Syncthing looks like the best alternative. Not available in the main repos, unfortunately, but there's multiple Copr repositories for it. There's also KDE Connect for the KDE folks.
Cheers for making me look up what available, Anon. I should have done something like this ages ago.
So I was going to use OpenSuSE as my first home desktop distro. Should I go through with it or install Debian instead?
Also what hardware should I use for a Dropbox replacement home server (shitpost pictures from online storage, stream mp3):
> raspberry pi (cheapest but literally no experience with that)
> old shit computer with Pentium III or IV running Debian
> get new cheap shit computer running Debian
>>53897717
use opensuse
debian is not for desktop use
>>53897717
debian
>>53897667
I think the filename is needed in there, because this is what the function's documentation looks like for the parameters: (gimp-colorize drawable hue saturation lightness).
>>53897738
Gotcha.
In what way is Debian unfit for desktop use?
>>53897758
Getting mixed messages here.
blog imminent
> at uni
> barely any time between homework, lectures, lab projects
> graduate with B.Eng.
> re-enroll for masters degree
> no neetbux anymore, get side job at research institute for programming
> now getting paid for sitting around and waiting for my python scripts to finish running on the grid engine
> finally have the time to learn about Linux, secure passwords etc
I even got to set up my spy- and bloatware ridden Samsung tablet to only use FOSS software with no decline in functionality.
>>53897812
>Getting mixed messages here.
said it 'just cuz'. i havent used debian in a couple years, but it used to be a staple among distros.
but if you want to be an autist, try funtoo; its what i'm currently using.
As root, where can I find the home directory of another user?
>>53898146
/home/username
>>53898146
you can use ~username, likecd ~username
since homedirs arent guaranteed to be in /home like >>53898186 implies.
>>53893646
>though it's pretty annoying have to do a workaround for something so basic.
I think it's pretty outrageous.
I had a bug where the whole session wasn't being saved (i.e., after I changed icon positions or added icons to the desktop these changed would be ignored after a restart). It was a long google trip before finding out I had to delete /home/username/.config/nemo/desktop-metadata, then press F5 in the desktop to generate a new correct config file.
I think the bug happened after uninstallation of chrome remote desktop (which was working, but messed the sessions).
Every single workaround for small things seems just idiotic. Mint so far in my experience is the best in the sense that it lets me avoid a lot of those problems, but I still feel I can't recommend it to anyone, as much as I hate the botnet. I just know most people won't take the google marathon to fix small things.
Also the shift+printscreen region-screenshot shortcut not working (on Mint) for 3 years and an admin unironically saying it is a feature. It just seems like there's no hope the community mentality will get better.
>>53896734
Despite any small annoyances, I still vouch for Mint. There were less headaches than in other distros.
For dual booting Mint in a mac, check out http://www.daveoncode.com/2015/05/26/installing-and-configuring-linux-mint-in-dual-boot-on-an-apple-macbook-pro-with-retina-display/
>>53897717
>Should I go through with it
If you think you'll like OpenSuSE, go for it. I personally didn't like it too much, but it's your system, and you should enjoy using it.
>Also what hardware should I use for a Dropbox replacement home server
A RPi2 should be good enough. Check up on OwnCloud if you want a Just Werks cloud storage. You can use Samba if you want shared folders you can mount on other systems (using cifs on GNU+Linux machines). If you want to stream music, you can use mpd.
Is there a way to move the contents of several folders into one folder
anyone else here experience crazy lockups when using marble? my load average was 20, although I was trying to load a 2GiB osm file of my entire state
>>53892657
Either you install your proprietary driver from usb or something or you write it yourself (don't). Or reinstall with the nonfree netinstall.
>>53892681
The most used one is probably numix+numix circle.
>>53892893
Pretty sure he's more of a gnome guy. Why do you even care? is he some kind of idol to you?
>>53895632
Boot into a live image on some usb mass storage device and reconfigure grub, there's lots of guides on this.
How do I use VNC with my Raspberry Pi?
When I start a VNC :1 session and connect to that, it works, but it's a separate instance of the desktop. It's not the "real" desktop (the one being displayed on the screen via HDMI)
Do I have to kill the original X session and somehow load the VNC :1 X session my screen?
>>53892681
1. Faenza
2. elementary-xfce
3. Cheser
4. Adwaita
5. Breeze
...
90000001. Numix variations
90000002. Vibrancy or whatever that one remix theme is called
90000003. Any of those "10 icons only" themes
90000000000001. Ubuntu Human
I want to host a shitty small HTML+images site from my Debian server but don't want to let my IP show up to the outside world, how do I obscure it?
i cant login (user is none, normal boot process seems to fail) or chroot in my install anymore, error while loading shared libraries: libncursesw.so.5: cannot open shared object file
what do
I recently got ubuntu, any things i should be warry of?
Or any general tips?
>>53899566
You don't. It's how the Internet works. The only "solution" would be willingly implement a MITM, which basically means that someone else will get all traffic, and pass it on to your server. Then all you have to do is pray that this other party won't do something with the data in transit, and does nothing else with the users who visit the website which would harm your reputation.
>>53899609
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
>>53899813
Choose between aptitude and apt-get early and stick with it. Remember to test lots of stuff and don't use it like you use windows.
>>53899427
>Why do you even care?
I was searching for cinnamon criticism in general and assumed that this specific case would be easier to find, if it existed.
>>53899954
You're weird anon, cinnamon and all other major DEs are free software and also gratis, you could just learn it's strong points and weaknesses yourself.
I'm getting this when installing gpsdrive from aur
can anyone help me out?
Hey guys, I'm currently a Mac user but switching to Linux soon, just doing my homework.
Excuse my ignorance, but when Ubuntu 16.04 is released, will I be able to use the XFCE DE straight away or will I have to wait for an xubuntu release?
Also I hear occasionally that Ubuntu is riddled with spyware and I'd be better off using Fedora/Debian/Arch, am I being rused?
Does anyone know if the Ubuntu Tablet is completely free software, with no proprietary blobs? If so it would be the first of it's kind afaik. I just can't find a straight answer anywhere online
Alright lads, USB drive is here, OpenSuSE image is downloaded. I can't find anything about which tool I should use to make the USB drive bootable though; installgentoo has a list and says not all of them work with all distros.
Also do I need to reserve a partition for Linux before the install or do I just keep my Windows system and data partitions as they are and resize them accordingly during the install?
>>53900551
>will I be able to use the XFCE DE straight away
Yes.
>Ubuntu is riddled with spyware
They used to bundle Amazon ads in their Unity DE, I'm not sure if they still do this. If you don't use mainline Ubuntu, this is not an issue.
>I'd be better off using Fedora/Debian/Arch
>Fedora
No, unless you like being the cheap testing sheep for Red Hat's stupid ideas.
>Debian
Perhaps, if you want to learn more about your system.
>Arch
If you like hateful, elitist communities and don't care about actual reasons to use an OS, this is an option. Arch users often claim it to be more lightweight and more customizable, but neither of these things are true. Debian is more lightweight, Funtoo is more customizable. I'd say no on considering Arch.
>>53891746
I'd recommed installing Debian instead, then use that for a couple of weeks and then try to install arch
that's what I did
>>53901050
What's the point of installing A just to ditch it for B a few weeks later?
>>53900684
>more lightweight
No one sane would choose his desktop distro based on how lightweight it is.
>>53901187
I tried installing arch at first, but I never got it to work
so I tried another distro with an easy installer
then after using it to learn for a while, i switched to arch
succeeded on my first try
I thought it will be impossible for me.
always remember to buy more ramz
>>53901187
Not the anon you're replying to, but it's easier to go in smaller steps than jumping in at the deep end.
I'd suggest skipping Arch and going Funtoo instead though. About as hard to setup, but allows you to properly customize your system.
>>53901237
Okay. If you have nothing to say that relates to my comment, please don't comment at all.
What is the best WM?
I liked xmonad, but having to learn haskell just to configure the wm is a bit too much
I went through college with a netbook, and used Libreoffice on it extensively. Now, though, Libreoffice seems to have set a minimum windows size which, for absolutely no apparent reason, is just slightly too tall for a netbook.
The window will not maximize. If I were to undecorate it it would fit, but with the window decorations it is too big. This is not a restriction that is in any way required by the design of the interface or anything like that. It seems completely arbitrary.
Is there a workaround for this? Should I file a bug report?
Is he autistic?
http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.en.html
"Fedora
Fedora does have a clear policy about what can be included in the distribution, and it seems to be followed carefully. The policy requires that most software and all fonts be available under a free license, but makes an exception for certain kinds of nonfree firmware. Unfortunately, the decision to allow that firmware in the policy keeps Fedora from meeting the free system distribution guidelines."
>>53901242
>tfw only 1gb in my netbook
>>53901248
If there was a single "best" WM, there wouldn't be multiple WMs being used. Please ask a proper question, like "which WM would be best given my requirements", and just so you don't fuck up again: don't forget to actually list some requirements.
Fuck it, I'm installing Debian instead of OpenSuSE.
>>53901304
good idea
>>53901286
anything thats really similiar to xmonad, but doesnt require knowledge of haskell for configuration
>>53901271
Why would he be autistic.
FSF's rules for what qualifies as a free distro are pretty simple and straightforward - distro does not ship with proprietary software/firmware/code.
Fedora doesn't qualify because it ships binary blob kernel modules for hardware compatibility, no other proprietary software is allowed
>>53901304
Enjoy your broken dependencies.
Pls help, what do
I'm scared now
I can't install opensuse because after choosing to boot from USB (after creating a bootable USB with unetbootin) it just kept counting down from 10 seconds until automatic boot, repeating forever. Now Debian is doing this
>>53901417
wipe disk
>>53901417
>I can't install opensuse because after choosing to boot from USB (after creating a bootable USB with unetbootin) it just kept counting down from 10 seconds until automatic boot, repeating forever.
Burn the ISO to a CD/DVD. It's the most failure proof method of booting linux. Sometimes hardware simply refuses to boot from an USB, my laptop included.
Optical media always works mint.
>>53901346
I've been told spectrewm is "like" xmonad, but xmonad is as powerful as it is due to the haskell configuration. So don't expect too much out of any xmonad-like WMs.
>>53901429
The USB drive?
I'm scared to abort now and not be able to boot into Windows afterwards.
>>53901437
Well Debian installer booted from the USB drive alright. Also don't have any discs lying around.
>>53901461
If you boot from a USB it won't touch your hard drive until you tell it to
>>53901505
Windows boots up normally, thank God. I was scared for a second there.
Time to try a net download of opensuse.
Anyone had the issue using KDE where it only displays a default device in the Audio/Video Device preferences section, but it correctly displays all audio devices in the sound applet?
This prevents me from specifying the correct priority, because there's only a single default device in that list -- I assume the ALSA default device. It just doesn't make sense.
I should mention that it worked during one setup of Arch + KDE, then after reinstalling it suddenly stopped; But I didnt everything exactly the same. I'm really confused
I feel like a retard. In a big brainfart I decided to run sudo startx with my xfce desktop and now I'm stuck in a loginloop when I am logging in with my main user.
I already tried to use chmod user:user on the .Xauthority file but it didn't yield any results.
Should I just reinstall the xfce desktop?
>>53901750
>Should I just reinstall the xfce desktop?
It's not windows. Reinstalling doesn't do anything to your local configs
>>53901750
Why don't you just change it back?
Shouldn't this be the Friendly GNU/Linux Thread?
Or as I've taken to calling it, Friendly GNU+Linux Thread.
>>53901750sudo find ~ -user root -delete
In case you want to remove all files owned by root so that there's room for you to re-create the files again.
>>53901750sudo chown username:groupname .Xauthority
Not chmod.
So on the OpenSuSE download page it says that you shouldn't use unetbootin, and the isos are for for direct usage on USB drives.
Well, i copied the net install iso to my USB drive, but when i tried to boot from it the pc just told me to remove the discs and other media. Pressing any key bored into Windows. Now what?
>>53901776
I was suspecting this is the case.
>>53901782
I thought I did. I already used chmod and $ls -lah yields-rw------- 1 username username 53 Apr 06 20:19 .Xauthority
So I figured the issue should have been solved.
>>53901810
Hmm that could be a solution. It would recreate a new Xauthority file when logging in again right?
>>53901897
use dd
>>53901930
On Windows or what? I figured it was a command you could use if you're already running a UNIX-like system only.
>>53901717
Anyone?
>>53901960
>Windows
rufus in dd mode
>>53901810
Alright this one did the job.
Thanks for the answers everyone.
Can someone tell me how to fix this?
Why does that kind of text look so illegible? Makes it really hard to read in most cases.
>>53902185
Thanks m8, it worked. I'll probably be posting a lot more as i try to figure shit out, bear with me please.
>>53902303
>pls halp mi
How about you make a screenshot of the whole fucking thing so we can at least figure out what the fuck are you running?
Okay, question time again. OpenSuSE is asking to partition the hard drive. How do i set this up so i keep all my data and the ability to boot Windows?
So far i had separate partitions for system, data, music and games.
>>53902543
It was just an example
It's like that on options that are "greyed out"
>>53902589
In that case it's probably the theme you have currently chosen.
Try to change it. If it's a theme you downloaded from the internet visit the source and see if it doesn't require and gtk theme engines and if they do - install them.
>>53900649
Shrink your windows partition and leave it unallocated. use Win32diskimager to make the usb drive bootable. The rest is done during install and guided. I don't know how good opensuse is for beginners but have fun.
>>53902573
>How do i set this up so i keep all my data and the ability to boot Windows?
Make sure that the partitions that your data/OS is on are not removed. Once you've booted into Linux, run grub-mkconfig. Grub should automatically detect your operating systems and generate a menu that you can use to make your selection at boot time. That's all there is to it.
>>53891668
>What sort of people would you *NOT* recommend to use GNU/Linux ?
People who need real time audio editing, video editing or play games.
>inb4 vine
If you need to emulate windows anyway, you don't need linux
And stop calling it "GNU/Linux", retard.
>>53903171
>And stop calling it "GNU/Linux", retard.
But it is GNU/Linux?
Linux is the name of the kernel.
If not GNU, GNU/Linux wouldn't exist.
Even the first versions of Torvalds' *nix had gnu software ported to them.
>>53903204
I wonder If I can upgrade my GNU/X11/systemd/Linux soon
>>53903171
>If you need to emulate windows anyway, you don't need linux
That's dumb.
>>53903204
>Linux is the name of the kernel.
Words can have more than one meaning. Crazy, right?
Okay hurr durr, there's a GUI partition manager.
Still i don't get what positions to choose for openSuSE. I want to resize the games partition to 70 Gigs, make a system partition (20GiB) and use the rest for misc data.
>>53903153
But do i need to make a boot partition for Linux? Is there a point in encrypting the drive?
Can i repartition the system later when i delete Windows for good?
Can i change the encryption password later, provided i remember the current one?
>>53903287
>Words can have more than one meaning. Crazy, right?
Nice mental gymnastics faggot.
>>53903345
Picture
Pls no dox
>>53903204
>But it is GNU/Linux?
It's like saying "please call it C/C++, because the C language was first.."
Also Linux is like super important whereas GNU is a fancy little foundation nobody cares about.
>>53903287
>That's dumb.
No it's not. If you need a lot of CPU power you won't slow down your baby by emulating an operating system in an operating system. It's just not logical..
Can't make a / or /home mount point on my HDD because they're already in use (USB stick from which i booted).
Aaaahhh what partitions do i need? What type do i choose for which and what file system? Do the mount points matter or are they arbitrary?
>>53903513
>It's like saying "please call it C/C++, because the C language was first.."
That's not a valid comparison and C++ already has C in the name
>Also Linux is like super important whereas GNU is a fancy little foundation nobody cares about.
Yeah especially when you consider the fact you can't even compile linux properly without gcc which is GNU.
Fuck off mate.
Linux is just a kernel, which GNU needed to become a working, stable OS.
>>53903605
Why didn'y you leave it with the auto option??
Anyway you need / , /home and swap(twice your RAM) to go
>>53903628
Linux is not just a Kernel, it's THE Kernel.
It's the one thing that saved GNU from sinking into oblivion. GNU was a mile stone, definately, but it's just not important anymore.
I love you /flt/
This thread is the only reason why I still come to /g/
>>53903722
Because i was worried it might delete all my other data or fuck up my Windows install, or not find enough free disk space to put the Linux partitions.
So how do i create those mount points when they're already in use from the USB drive? What filesystems do i use? In https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Partitioning they use EXT4, except for Swap.
>>53903782
Same. I wish there was an active irc channel to lurk in though.
>>53903743
GNU is more important than ever. The GPL and LGPL usage is increasing. GNU software is used on all platforms.
>>53904009
#flt @ irc.freenode.net
done
I'm running pulseaudio on arch and everything is running fine, but it allows only one audio source to be played at a given time (I can't start youtube with a media player for example, not even on mute). I've found that dmix, the ALSA component that allows multiple contemporary audio sources is blocked on pulseaudio. I'm following the arch wiki on how to enable it on pulseaudio but I'm blocked at
>Find and uncomment lines which load back-end drivers. Add device parameters as follows. Then find and comment lines which load autodetect modules.
what lines are they referring to exactly?
>>53903899
use ext4 except for swap, it's the way to go, I'm not even memeing you
>>53903605
it's useful to have / separate from all your usual user data, which you can leave for instance at /home
when you have to reinstall the OS for whatever reason, you may keep the /home partition intact, it's really useful, I feel silly for not doing that on my first install
>>53904386
Problem is, like i said, that the /home and root partitions are on the USB stick, as part of the openSuSE installer. I don't have it installed on my HDD, and i don't see how i am supposed to do it when these positions exist and i obviously can't just unmount them.
>>53904433
Why does the usb have mount points?
Is that a default opensuse installer?
You wouldn't have this kind of problem if you were installing Mint :^)
Wish I could actually help you anon.
>>53904522
I was considering Mint before but I don't want the nonfree plugins etc.
It's the network installer downloaded from their own site.
The USB has mount points because... I booted from it and somehow the data from the stock had to be read so it needs to be mounted.
Backing up my data, I'll see if i can use some automatic procedure. What comes to worst I'll lose the ability to make a presentation for defending my thesis, no biggie.
>>53902000
>>53901717
I managed to solve my problem by installing pulseaudio-alsa. I didn't expect my devices to show up properly, just that that ALSA would fall back to the PulseAudio default device -- but apparently it fixed the issue entirely. Some things are really a bit confusing still.
damn this thread is slow today
Cough.
When watching youtube videos the video goes blue for like half a second multiple times. What do?
I'm new and I am using Linux mint mate
>>53904697
Hey Anon, I just downloaded the opensuse netinstall to see for myself, and you didn't do anything wrong, this is actually the default behaviour of yast2. Incredible.
What you need to do is first edit the usb partition that is currently selected as / and tell it not to mount it. Then you can chose a partition on your hard drive as /
hope that helps, or that trying something else will work for you
I guess this isn't 100% linux related, but I'm using linux on all my machines and people here seem to know their shit:
I'm trying to learn networking and security stuff. Right now I'm configuring my home network, trying to make it "hacker-proof".
Planning to host a small server at home and not get my shit handed to me if/when the IP goes public. I'm planning to have SSH and FTP access from the internet just for myself and public HTTP access for sharing some images to a few people. Not expecting much legitimate traffic, none outside my country.
First priority is everything else on this network being safe, the server itself won't have anything important/personal on it.
So how would I go about learning all this stuff and testing things in a way that doesn't invite unwanted traffic?
Does someone have a link to the Windows 8.1 fonts? I don't particulary care much about FOSS, but I'd like to use infinality with the Windows fonts.
#flt on irc.freenode.net
gogogo
>>53905279
>not rizon
>>53905178
Thank you, I'll try that. My mistake i think was that I thought the / and /homepartitions on the stick were already there, when the manager showed what the setup would create with the current settings.
I resized the games partition in Windows and left 90 GB unpartitioned. Told the partition wizard thing (in the openSuSE installer) to create separate root and home partitions on the hard disk and it said there was not enough space for that. I'll try doing it again manually.
I'm probably doing something stupidly wrong here, but it seems no matter what I try, links I click in irc are always opened in Pale Meme browser when I want to open them in Ice Weasel. As you can see in this pic Pale Moon is not the default, and if I open Pale Moon it even alerts me that it is not the default browser. Why does it keep opening links with this browser then?
I want to keep pale moon as a sort of backup browser, but I mainly use ice weasel
>>53905411
IRC links are handled separately from normal web links.
>>53891471
In arch, how many time should we wait to see the latest version of the kernel once they released a stable version ?
>>53905434
Three days.
>>53905430
Really? I mean someone will post a link in an irc channel, I double click it, and then it opens in Pale Moon
How can I change this?
>>53905458
>Really?
Yes. This means that Pale Moon is associated with IRC links, even while IceWeasel is associated with web links.
Figure out how to fix that. Google "lxde default irc client" or something like that.
>>53901417
Is that trying to day the installer is too old?
So. I can't make any new partitions on the HDD for some reason. Well, i can make one that's exactly 7.84 MiB large (no more, no less). After that i can't make any more even though there's a 90 GiB unpartitioned bit.
>>53905503
Possibly. I am trying to get openSuSE running instead now.
>>53905194
you don't have to learn much about "security", but you should look at the tools you intend to use.
SSH for example, it's bad practice to permit a login as root, you should also use fail2ban, denyhost. You should also use strong pass phrases and you can also generate keys for the machines that will connect to the ssh server.
There's some stuff you can look at, and put in place quite easily.
It always depends on the software you will use.
Google "how to secure xxx", you should come with nice results and tutorials.
Everytime I reinstall windows for muh games I realize that I don't care about games that much and go back after 1 day. How do I remind myself of this fact? It's happened at least 4 times in the past year.
>>53905590
Stick to the games you have that run in Linux. Should suffice as reminder. Assuming you have any of course, but that's pretty likely if you have at least a small Steam library.
>>53905590
VIRTUAL MACHINES
I
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>>53905656
Failed to realise before I hit enter that the captcha was "Richard stop". Make of that what you will.
>>53903345
>>53903377
>192.168.178.55
>no dox
I think you're missing the point of ipv4.
>But do i need to make a boot partition for Linux? Is there a point in encrypting the drive?
A linux partition is basically /
You only need / to have it working.
You can have a separate partition /boot, for the boot partition, but that's not necessary (in case you need one, it should be ~200- 300 MB).
Swap isn't needed neither. But some people find it actually useful
>Is there a point in encrypting the drive?
yes and no, depends who you are.
>Can i repartition the system later when i delete Windows for good?
Probably. There's tools to copy, or move a partition to another one so you could put the linux partition on the start of the hard drive and extend it.
but you already have open suse installed in your sdb, what do you want to do exactly ?
>>53905165
html5 or flash videos ?
Guys how do I add functionality to Debian's Nautilus?
It seems rather barebones as it is right now
I'd like to be able to mess around with the bar to the left, showing the drives I want instead of "Other Locations", the option to right click anywhere in a folder and press a Open as Root button so I can do root level tasks right there on the GUI without having to type it in the CLI or open Nautilus as root from there and navigate back to where I wanted to be, etc etc
>>53903377
That's your internal IP. Don't worry about being d0xxed.
>>53905798
also being able to right click anywhere in a folder and create a new file of any type, you know, all that sort of good stuff.
>>53905798
install thunar
>>53905798
>showing the drives I want
Go to the drive root directory of the drive you want and bookmark it.
But what you want is a different file manager.
So, progress. I partitioned the previously file system-less position in Windows, after which I could assign the new Linux partitions as it says in the picture.
Now in the wiki they have two boot volumes for dual booting, how do i set that up? Do i even need to?
>>53905735
>>53905804
It was fahni jok.
sdb is the USB drive from which i booted into the installer. The root and home volumes are only shown there because that's what the installer wants to create if you keep the standard settings.
So what i want to do:
> resize Games partition
Done
> tell openSuSE partitioner to create Linux partitions in the freed up space on my HDD (sda).
Done
> partition everything so i can dual boot win 7 and openSuSE
> install openSuSE
>>53905536
is it possible that your sda4 Extended partition needs to be bigger before you can use the space? Try increasing it's size. Or just generally play around with the partitioner until you find out what the problem is, then start over and do it right?
>>53905834
>/dev/sda9
kmn pls
>>53905828
Which one would you recommend for the things I described, and that would play nicely with GNOME?
>>53905826
Thanks mang I'll check it out
>>53905536
I guess that's an "old" computer running windows 7 or something.
There's a limitation to 4 primary partitions. You can't create more partitions.
Here you partitions are :
sda1 : 100MB of ntfs partition (probably some stuff for windows
sda2 : 78GB windows
sda3 : 1GB of bullshit
sda 4 : an extended partition to get another 4 paritions
on this extended parittion you have the sda5, 6 and 7 which are your data, music and games
The last parittion you can create will be on the extended partition (sda4) which have 127GB allocated. Most of it is in use by the 5 6 and 7.
That's why you can only create 1 partition of a few MB despite having 90GB.
Any question ?
>>53905852
If you listen closely, you can hear his HDD crying in the distance.
>>53905774
I'm guessing it's html5 but not sure.
/etc/network/interfaces
auto em0
iface em0 inet manual
auto br0
iface br0 inet dhcp
bridge_ports em0
mfw br0 don't goes up after reboot
what the fuck is wrong?
Is using FreshPlayer/PepperFlash on Debian's Firefox secure? Or does it carry with it the same gaping vulnerabilities of official Adobe Flash?
It's a tad weird to get used to having to CTRL+C and CTRL+V on the CLI with mpv when I want to watch a twitch stream or a porn video that is only on flash.
>>53905930
play the video, right click. There should be an "about html5 player" or "about flash player"
>>53905893
>>53905852
I don't get it, is this a problem? It might be a little bit of unused space between some other partitions from when i badly resized one eons ago.
My root volume is now around 35 GiB, home 50 GiB and Swap 4.50 GiB (i have 4 GB RAM). Sound okay?
>>53905889
Just try a few out. First thing I think of is Nemo, but I've no idea if clears all of your requirements.
Can I do a minimal install of ubuntu with wireless out of the box? (Not connecting a cable at all). I know it's impossible with debian, but what about ubuntu?
>>53905961
Ah, it's html5.
>>53905981
Just poking fun. It's a lot of partitions, but no, if you like it that way, it's not a problem.
>>53905984
>I know it's impossible with debian
It's not though. You just stick in the .deb package that your laptop needs in a USB and install it. It will be a net install with wireless working out of the box. The installer even tells you which files you need. You just google them on another computer and put them on the USB. Or if you lack a second computer, cancel the install, go to your current OS, get the .deb from the Debian site, put it on an USB and restart the installation.
>>53905834
>Two thousand and sixteen
>People are still not using LVM's for their partitioning
It would alleviate so many of your headaches guys, seriously. It's so easy.
Running out of space for home? No big deal! Just chop off a bit from the unused space in another logical volume. It's so hassle free
Spamming the IRC connection details
(by the way, that means you should join wink wink)
IRC connection details:
Server: chat.freenode.net:6667 (no SSL, 6697 for SSL)
Channel: #flt
If you don't have an IRC client (which you should), go to https://webchat.freenode.net/ to join the webchat.
Do not tick "auth to services" (as you probably don't have a freenode account), choose a nickname, and type "#flt" as the channel.
Google captcha, click "connect", all that.
>>53905984
It's not impossible with Debian, silly. Some wifi cards will work out of the box.
No idea whether Ubuntu carries driver blobs in the installation media.
>>53896223
By gentoo do you mean Arch Linux? You better mean Arch Linux.
>>53906076
Maybe I'll pop my head in tomorrow, just out of appreciation that you didn't pick Rizon.
>>53906063
Are there any downsides?
I've just faffed around with recovering some old deleted images. Is there a way to check all of the sub-folders in a directory to find an image which matches a given size?
>>53906129
None that I know of.
Just leave 1 GB or so of unallocated space in the Logical Volume Group, so that you can create snapshots of your root partition before risky upgrades and stuff like that, for extra cool-guy points.
>>53906079
But what about when I reboot? Just install the deb on the usb with dpkg -i? But I'd also need more packages installed in order to connect wouldn't I? Since it doesn't include network manager or anything.
>>53906129
Oh, and never include your /boot in an LVM. Might cause issues.
Literally every other partition should go into an LVM though.
I have one LVM for my SSD and a separate one for my HDD.
>>53906168
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=network-manager
Debs, debs and more debs.
One last question before i partition this thing: can i encrypt the swap partition? I know i can't encrypt root.
>>53906168
Dude. Let's walk you through it.
You start your netinstall. Shortly before it advances too much, it will detect network hardware. It will then tell you right there during the install if you need to download some firmware. You write down the filename or names that it tells you you need and now you can
A) Proceed with the install without inserting them right now. You will install them later after it's all done
B) Stick another USB that contains the .deb which contains the files you need (which you get by fuggin googling it and finding it in the Debian site), and say you want to install them now.
I personally prefer B, but either work fine.
>>53906205
Why the hell would you want to? Swap would only ever contain ramdumps anyway, it's not like that's readable data.
>>53891471
Best GUI FTP client for Linux? I'm on lubuntu