It's very simple lads. Just follow this link.
https://kat.cr/destroy-windows-10-spying-final-version-exe-t11835356.html
After you do that, you'll feel much better about using Windows 10, and your days of feeling like a shill because you use Windows 10 bot-ware will be over.
>>53890264
And then one of W10s forced updates can come along and reset everything. Something Microsoft has already done.
>2016
>disable spying
>>53890264
Nah, you can't.
I ran this program and now I have ebola wat do
looks legit
>>53890508
An hero
>>53890264
Why would anyone bother with this sketchy looking tool when O&O ShutUp 10 and SpyBot Antibeacon exist?
>>53890264
the fact that you have to disable spying that's baked in to the operating system says something
What exactly does it disable? I see it has high rating on kickass so I doubt it's a virus..
>>53890626
no virus only disable windows 10 spying trust me
>>53890264
>How to Disable Windows 10 Spying
Easy, you DBAN your HDD and install Linux.
Alternatively Windows 7 for a light botnet version but wont track all the shit you are doing.
>>53890671
kek
>>53890264
>go to a torrent website
>download and run an .exe
I'll take "Retarded things that you shouldn't do, ever" for $500.
Is there anything open source?
>>53890264
I remember before Windows 10 came out, all the faggots were saying Windows 10 was spying, especially freetards who have never used it, so I did some research. Windows 10 just collects usage information and telemetry like most of the apps on your PC (including your beloved FaggotFox) and sends it back to MS. This doesn't contain any personal information and is just used to improve Windows. I have lost zero sleep over it and I don't give a shit because I understand that it isn't spying because I'm not a freetarded dipshit moron who runs executables from the internet to deliberately damage my OS.
>for the first time in 15 years i have become infected. someone entered my gamil account, and its only 1 month ago i installed win 10 with this add on.
>>53890760
That's wrong. It contains an indiscriminate key logger that sends everything you type to Microsoft.
>>53890671
>trust me
Yes, let's trust a random Anonymous poster on 4chan that a random program that supposedly changes the system somehow isn't going to do anything naughty
>>53890760
It scans all your files, logs every keystroke, can upload or delete non OS related files from your hard drive and much more. Do you even read EULA's? Do you not wonder why they are giving away a closed source OS? Also, there is a Pajeet at the helm, they hate Americans!
>>53890264
>linking a fucking .exe file from kickass torrents.
OP, you don't dissapoint, you keep trying new ways of being a huge faggot.
>>53890264
not possible within the OS itself, although this might remove most of it. Also hosts file is completely unreliable now.
>>53890760
Even if it it didnt all that shit, the fact the updates are forced is a nono for me.
I use google DNS and chrome so i could care less about privacy.
Still i trust my info to google more than i would ever do to microsoft.
>>53890264
B O T N E T - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >
O Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
T https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
N
E Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
T https://archive.is/OBGB1
|
| Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
| https://archive.is/tW6fu
|
| Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
| https://archive.is/2XIvX · https://archive.is/qLRZx
|
| Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
| location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
| even after related settings are turned off:
| https://archive.is/Zny36 · https://archive.is/sz1nt
| https://archive.is/g3QdQ · https://archive.is/ko469
|
| A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10:
|
| Keypoints: Windows 10 has a keylogger and uploads all your
| keystrokes every 5 minutes. Everything you type in Edge or
| Cortana is sent to Microsoft, along with any media files it
| finds. When webcam is enabled, 35MB of data goes to Microsoft.
| Even with Cortana disabled/uninstalled, Windows 10 sends all
| microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
| https://archive.is/QnTTA
| https://archive.is/eZKc9
|
| Windows 10 sends desktop screenshots straight to Microsoft:
| https://d2.maxfile.ro/rwspylwbwo.webm
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDeHqiydk4A
|
| Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
| https://archive.is/vhjwm
| https://archive.is/2jehd
|
| Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
| https://archive.is/MB0Yy
|
| > Over 82 billion photos viewed.
| > Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
| > 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
| > Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
| > Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
|
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>>53890760
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
>>53890760
Jesus Christ why have attitudes since Snowden completely regressed? You realise Microsoft was #1 when it came to giving the NSA information right? They also endorsed the FBI in the Apple case recently..
>>53890804
he's not a anon he's rajeet from michaelsoft u fuckin newgen
>>53890760
>telemetry
>somehow not personal information
Heres your (you).
>>53890896
I'm not American so I don't give a fuck about the NSA.
>>53890823
>It scans all your files
What the hell do you mean by scan? OneDrive scans things and puts them on the cloud. That's what it's supposed to do.
>logs every keystroke
False.
> can upload or delete non OS related files from your hard drive and much more
I don't care.
>Do you even read EULA's?
I read part of them. They were pretty boilerplate shit about not stealing IP.
>>53890802
>That's wrong. It contains an indiscriminate key logger that sends everything you type to Microsoft.
Totally false. This was one of the first things I checked when I first heard about it.
If you really think MS would start collecting credit card numbers and banking passwords through keyloggers you are beyond retarded.
>>53890842
Updates are only forced for plebs who buy home edition, and they should be because plebs don't update and then get viruses.
Why do you trust Google more than Microsoft? They're both just multi-billion dollar corporations.
>>53890869
Yeah I've read it all and all the traffic to MS is just benign usage data and telemetry. You are RETARDED if you think MS wants to spy on you or gives a shit about what you as an individual do with your computer.
>>53890911
It isn't. It doesn't contain personal information.
>>53890903
I rarely look at the names here, and either way, does it make a fucking difference?
>>53890922
Pro version still gets forced updates.
You just can delay them with the pro version.
>>53890744
Common Sense
>Hmm let me check the comments since this is popular torrent. "Works" okay has high rating. Let me check it out in my VM. Okay nothing wrong, AV says nothing. Time to install to system
>After you do that, you'll feel much better about using Windows 10
The fact that an end user requires some kind of tool to dismantle aspects of an OS just to "feel much better about using it" is ridiculous.
>stupid fucking people will be the death of us all
>>53890937
For 8 months, and if you're connected to a server you can go indefinitely.
>>53890744
I was going to say "why normies need antivirus" for $1000.
Why would you trust something like this that's not open source?
>>53890922
>I'm not American so I don't give a fuck about the NSA.
>>53890264
lol at these winfags thinking they can control their own pc.
>>53891079
The NSA has a right to spy on me because I am a foreign citizen. It's part of their mandate. There is nothing I can do about it.
>>53890896
Because people don't care about their rights as long as they are eroded slowly and those erosions don't have any immediate consequences.
The vast majority of people don't know about the telemetry changes and never will. Most will even leave all the enhanced telemetry on by default. Many didn't even choose or fully understand what the upgrade meant.
Why should I care if all my personal data, keypresses, memory dumps, application usage statistics, etc, incriminating or not, is sitting in the cloud somewhere, managed by a company who is part of PRISM and works with the NSA and other government agencies? As long as I have a shiny new UI and boot 1 second faster, after all I'm a law abiding citizen.
And just because user control was deprecated, and the quality of the software overall was greatly reduced, why should I care? I personally haven't had any problems. M$ rolls out their updates in small batches, and the unlucky few who get to test them are always in the minority as the result.
No, these people will sit there and defend GWX, shitpost on /g/ about how they're on a "superior" OS, in spite of themselves. Very few are willing to stay on 7/8.1 or move to gnu/linux. That's "too hard."
>>53890925
Why wouldn't you trust Rajeet? He's helped me recover a corrupt partition in windows with his own software, the guys a fucking legend.
The anons ironically call idiots Rajeet here all the time ffs...
>>53891128
Now that W10 has/is going to have an Ubuntu subsystem, you won't have to. You can just run your Lunix stuff right here at home!
http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/30/11331014/microsoft-windows-linux-ubuntu-bash
>>53890922
How the fuck are you so sure of what exactly they're transmitting here, other than "I trust microsoft"?
>>53890760
read their README about privacy, that's the first thing they tell you they "get" from you, your name, age, location, etc.
>>53891219
>you, your name, age, location,
Holy shit, you mean all that shit I volunteered when I made by XBOX account when I was 17? Oh no.
If you're comfortable using Facebook apps, you have no excuse to not use W10.
You only run hardened Gentoo because you want to hide your CP from the authorities.
>>53890922
https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement
read this faggot.
>>53891128
I clean installed Windows 10 on one comp and updated 8.1 on two more. Deal with it.
>>53891128
>all this autism
i would be more weary of a program from a .cr domain than windows.
you know how you solve the problem? you create static entries in your local dns server. problem solved. you dont sperg out and repeat everything you read on /g/
>>53890922
you know what? i don't even think you can actually click on "read more" so i'll just put this image here.
>>53891245
>You only run hardened Gentoo because you want to hide your CP from the authorities.
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>>53891248
>>53891278
It's less invasive than Facebook. What's your point?
>>53891278
They collect passwords used to login to their services? HOLY SHIT SOMEONE ALERT THE PRESS
>>53891245
>the 'nothing to hide argument'
>>53891310
>Not as bad as the worst
>That makes it okay
I'm not crying "muh botnet" like these lards but your logic is fucking stupid.
>>53891310
>appeal to common practice
>comparing a social media site to an operating system
get out
>>53891278
None of that shit even happens if you use a local account and disable Cortana. Also, like someone else said, O&O ShutUp 10 and SpyBot Antibeacon will do all the hard part for you.
>>53890760
>I did some research
>This doesn't contain any personal information
Microsoft's privacy statement says clearly that they collect personal data.
https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/
>I'm not a freetarded dipshit moron who runs executables from the internet to deliberately damage my OS
if you need to resort to name calling in order to shielding yourself even before someone has replied you i think you don't have a lot of confidence on what you're stating.
>>53891310
Facebook is one of the most invasive things you could volunteer for.
>>53891337
>>53891343
This is actually dumb. This isn't your 1960s UNIX OS, this is a 21st century cloud based OS with social integration. Comparing it to FB is totally valid.
>>53891359
That's for account information not telemetry data.
>>53891363
I guarantee you that there are complete fucking retards on this board who have run kill-windows-10-spying.exe after torrenting it and then post on Facebook about how awesome they are for fighting back against MS.
>>53891410
>It's the current year
That's not an argument.
>>53891278
its funny because the 'data we collect' is perfectly normal unlike the scare tactics you are trying to pull
>>53891245
>someone cracks microsoft
>uses gapping hole that is win update to your system to hide malware on your system as a windows root library
Could/already have happened, you'll never know.
>>53891348
This. This is how you cope.
Other options include: install gentoo.
>>53891337
>>53891410
Comparing it to FB is fine. I was just saying someone who cares about their privacy shouldn't go anywhere near either of them.
>>53891410
>This is actually dumb.
thanks for your contribution to /g/
>>53891455
>someone cracks wordpress
>uses gapping hole to install malware into .iso of operating system install
could/already have happened, you'll never know.
Nothing you do can get rid of the backdoors at the kernel level... Like... Why try... Windows has been backdoored since 98. Just accept this fact and get a second machine if you really care about your privacy. Or, you know, don't use the internet with your Windows machine...
>>53891447
>we collect your business transactions
>we collect your personal information
>we collect your passwords and other security information
>we collect your interests
>we collect everything else you download
>and there's no way you can turn this telemetry off
How does that MS dick taste?
>>53891455
>someone cracks microsoft
This hypothetical could be applied to literally anything. That said, updates really shouldn't be forced. That's a legitimate security issue.
>>53891245
>If you're comfortable using Facebook apps, you have no excuse to not use W10.
When you use facebook from a browser you are the one who decides what information you give to them. On windows MS decides what you share with them and now that the updates are forced you have no guarantee that your changes on the system to protect yourself are permanent.
>You only run hardened Gentoo because you want to hide your CP from the authorities.
>The nothing to hide argument
No one has the right to just collect data you want to keep private, you're giving that right because you want but that doesn't make you any better, in fact i think you're a complete pushover or you just love MS too much.
>>53890922
>> can upload or delete non OS related files from your hard drive and much more
>I don't care.
Actual, literal cuck
>>53891494
but that is shit you give them voluntarily. you tell them that stuff when you use the apps related to them.
that shit is not the same as telemetry
>>53891495
To be fair the only other people who have the MS cert is probably the NSA. And as much as it's fun to talk about they aren't going to install malware on everyone's machine through windows update.
>>53891495
>This hypothetical could be applied to literally everything
The difference is that Free Software is audited and I can review the source code. Fuck, if I wanted to install Debian, I can see what it's doing, and at least Debian doesn't even collect my personal information. Do you honestly think everything is as invasive as MS?
>>53890564
because people think the botnet has botnet programs, and are uterusally defenseless
>>53891510
I think you forgot the "you can't turn it off" part.
I want you to actually run a packet sniffer. Even when you turn all that shit off, it's STILL sending information to MS. Go on, try it I dare you.
>>53891119
>its okay for a foreign three letter agency to rape my privacy because its their job
Wew
>>53891184
What would be the point in logging my keystrokes or collecting personal information beyond what I volunteer?
>>53891436
Quoting Stefan Molyneux isn't an argument either.
Windows wouldn't be useful if it weren't social, which is why you need an account to use it properly.
>>53891455
>someone cracks Mint (this happened last month btw)
>uses gapping hole that is Mint update to your system to hide malware on your system as a Mint root library
See, I can make up hypothetical situations too.
>>53891479
If the NSA wants to know what's on my computer, they're going to find out. There is no legal reason stopping them from completely tapping every electronic device I own.
>>53891498
This isn't true. Any information you don't put in your computer doesn't go into telemetry the same way that anything you don't put on your browser doesn't go on Facebook, or in your Facebook app. It's a really shitty analogy. If you upload anything to Facebook, Facebook will know about it, and will know much more about it than MS will about your animu videos hidden in C:\.
>>53891545
What the fuck should I do about it? Go stand with a sign outside of the American consulate? They don't give a shit.
>>53890264
The cool thing about Windows is, the normies who are stupid enough to use it will not understand everything the OS is doing. And if Microsoft is caught spying on them, they will simply find another way.
>>53891529
Don't kid yourself. Open source is nice, but shit like hartbleed and shellshock show that you are doing nothing but waiting for people to tell you what you want to hear.
Something as complicated as a kernel and OS is never going to be able to be audited, not by the developers or anyone else. There is just too much code going on.
And yeah, of course there are vulnerabilities in windows, no one fucking denies that, what I am saying is that open source is not the magical solution, because you yourself sure as shit wouldn't be able to find an nsa backdoor in the windows code if one exists.
>>53891540
I didn't forget anything. I told you that there is a different between the telemetry and the shit in that picture.
Everyone fucking knows it is sending packets back. How much of that is activation or update polling? Who fucking knows.
But if you think those packets are sending all of your keystrokes, or pictures of your programs being installed that is where I draw the line of common sense.
>>53890626
it works fine. but can also cause some issues. noot OP but i dunno. i it helps. thank god or dual boot. only if linux had better software... bastards dont evene have a netlifx app. sure chrome does but it is not HD and has screen taring
>>>there a pajeet at the helm,they hate Americans.
Yeah just got done eating a noodle soup where the noodles were a white american baby's intestines.
>>53890823
Meant for.
>>53891638
>>53891310
Facebook is a social network dipshit, not an OS, an OS shouldn't do this.
>>53891578
>Windows wouldn't be useful if it weren't social
Maybe for you, but that doesn't apply to the majority of people. Most people who use Winblows just want to get work done and have no need for it. In any case, there's no way having their their personal information and passwords and other security information collected will help them, that's done only to benefit M$.
>See, I can make up hypothetical situations too.
Oh, look at that, it was patched rather quickly! Good thing we can see the source code.
>There is no legal reason stopping them from completely tapping every electronic device I own.
Maybe not in your country, but here in the US we have something called the fourth amendment, which includes the right to privacy. They need to come with a warrant if they want to collect my shit.
> Any information you don't put in your computer doesn't go into telemetry the same way that anything you don't put on your browser doesn't go on Facebook
You're right, it's WORSE. MS has control over your machine and there's no way to stop updates, so they can roll out all the telemetry they want, integrating it into the OS on demand. And unlike facebook, they have control of your OS, so they have much more control of what information they collect. There's literally nothing stopping them from finding out anything they want about what you have on your drive. Holy shit you're so fucking stupid. What are you doing on a technology board?
>>53891578
This guy:
>If you're comfortable using Facebook apps, you have no excuse to not use W10.
was the one who made a shitty analogy, i just explained why is shitty.
>Any information you don't put in your computer doesn't go into telemetry the same way that anything you don't put on your browser doesn't go on Facebook, or in your Facebook app.
Are you conscious on what you're saying? Potentially giving all the information in your computer vs posting something you want to make public. Sincerely, who of us is the one making a shitty analogy?
>and will know much more about it than MS
You cannot know that and you can't prove it, in fact, their terms are already shitty in the first place. You must blindly trust MS.
>will about your animu videos hidden in C:\.
desperate ad hominem?
>>53891578
>What the fuck should I do about it? Go stand with a sign outside of the American consulate? They don't give a shit.
I've got an idea. Stop using winblows and use something else. There's literally thousands of better alternatives.
>>53890264
Changelog:
"Changes in version:
final version"
This is why edgy tools should be avoided.
>>53891673
The fourth amendment doesn't apply to corporations. It's irrelevant.
>>53890746
Yes but it lacks little very little features that you can do manually with easy mainly 2 group policies and one firewall rule.
Sure you can always update your hosts list with more update ips.
https://github.com/W4RH4WK/Debloat-Windows-10
>>53891619
>Everyone fucking knows it is sending packets back. How much of that is activation or update polling? Who fucking knows.
Translation:
>I have no idea what those packets are sending but I'll trust that Microshaft respects my privacy on WIN10 of all OSs
>what I am saying is that open source is not the magical solution, because you yourself sure as shit wouldn't be able to find an nsa backdoor in the windows code if one exists.
No, I would, pretty fucking easily, seeing as how it's in my job domain to deal with and information systems exactly of this nature.
And this is implying that I'm working alone. I'm even more sure that a small group of open source devs could dismantle it if the code is that horrid and spaghettified (in which case it really shouldn't be trusted to run stable in the first place)
>>53891578
>Windows wouldn't be useful if it weren't social
every version of windows up to this point beg's to differ
>>someone cracks Mint (this happened last month btw)
they didn't "crack Mint", they got access to the web server that hosts the .iso's. You can't "crack" open source software, it's already open source.
>There is no legal reason stopping them from completely tapping every electronic device I own.
You're right there isn't. That's why people who care about their privacy refuse to use windows 10. The onus of protecting your privacy is on yourself.
>Any information you don't put in your computer doesn't go into telemetry the same way that anything you don't put on your browser doesn't go on Facebook
This is impossible to know/verify since windows is closed source. Explorer does contact the internet though, which can be verified with firewall software or wireshark.
>>53891619
how can you draw the line for common sense? serious question, what stops them? it's the age of information and you think that it is to farfetched to take a simple screenshot and send it to microsoft? that's their fucking business and you don't realize, they don't sell OS's anymore, they sell information to advertising companies. why would they not be interested in that? not for "security", but for profit, do you even know how anything in that OS works? you couldn't even if you wanted to, you never know how it really works, you even admitted not knowing what they send to MS. so how do you draw that "common sense" line on your head? on what basis? answer me seriously please maybe you convince me it's not all so lost with Windows.
>>53891718
>The fourth amendment doesn't apply to corporations
Individual customers are not corporations. Your argument is invalid.
>>53890264
The only surefire way to prevent it is to block any and every IP address you dont use via your router.
This is tedious, time consuming, and a huge hassle for most people not to mention most routers these days are intentionally feature crippled to prevent this kind of control.
Any programs which are safe and actually work are just wishful thinking, but for people like me who almost never update windows (its seriously not an issue if you know enough to vet your downloads, unless you use certain OS services) it legitimately is not am issue.
>>53891619
>Everyone fucking knows it is sending packets back. How much of that is activation or update polling? Who fucking knows.
this is the problem
>>53890264
Nice ransomware bruv
>>53891748
>You're right there isn't. That's why people who care about their privacy refuse to use windows 10. The onus of protecting your privacy is on yourself.
The NSA would just tap my Mac or Linux box if I were using that. They Snowden already released details about spyware for Android, so we know it's possible to do to Linux. You're living in a fairy tale if you think using Linux would actually protect you from any government determined to spy on you.
Windows has to become social because everyone uses social media now. 90s strategies in 2016 doesn't make sense.
>>53891686
>There's literally thousands of better alternatives.
Totally false. Gaming is still a joke on Linux, and there's no Visual Studio or Xcode. I have Linux VM's that let me use Linux when I need to, but that's all the Linux I need. It isn't capable to replace Windows 10.
>>53891673
>You're right, it's WORSE. MS has control over your machine and there's no way to stop updates, so they can roll out all the telemetry they want, integrating it into the OS on demand. And unlike facebook, they have control of your OS, so they have much more control of what information they collect. There's literally nothing stopping them from finding out anything they want about what you have on your drive. Holy shit you're so fucking stupid. What are you doing on a technology board?
This requires you to be paranoid and delusional enough to think that Microsoft would risk everything by actually spying on its users and breaking laws, resulting in lawsuits in the US and EU.
Your tinfoil hat is extremely tight and you have a terminal case of freetardation.
>>53891681
Telemetry doesn't collect what's on your computer, it collects information about how you use your computer and what happens on your computer. It isn't useful for Microsoft to know the titles of the books and movies you have saved on your computer. This is so retarded. All you freetards think Microsoft is the Stasi building a profile on you.
>>53891758
Right. I was actually just using an argument that was recently used against me and I'm not really sure how I should have rebutted. The context was somewhat different though.
>>53890264
Hahahahaha. Windows users have to install dodgy exe files from fucking KAT to stop their own OS from spying on them. Hilarious.
>hey just run this unknown program that I'm telling you to run because reasons
I'm good I'd rather not get your adware bomb thanks
>>53891827
how can you draw the line for common sense? serious question, what stops them? it's the age of information and you think that it is to farfetched to take a simple screenshot and send it to microsoft? that's their fucking business and you don't realize, they don't sell OS's anymore, they sell information to advertising companies. why would they not be interested in that? not for "security", but for profit, do you even know how anything in that OS works? you couldn't even if you wanted to, you never know how it really works, you even admitted not knowing what they send to MS. so how do you draw that "common sense" line on your head? on what basis? answer me seriously please maybe you convince me it's not all so lost with Windows.
how could the NSA and the goverment not benefit from this too? when windows is used around the whole world it makes sense to give them inmunity as long as they share the info, don't you think?
and they always get your consent via some shady user agreement on some random application or service, you just don't read it, but you agreed so fuck it.
>>53890264
I'll "feel better" after running some random exe on my machine? Are you fucking high or is this just what an autist trying to grow his botnet looks like?
I'll just stick with Win7 for the few hours a month I play games.
>>53891827
>The NSA would just tap my Mac or Linux box if I were using that.
Mac yes, Linux no. You can compile your linux box from source after ensuring that it has no NSA backdoor. This ensures they cannot collect information on your machine from the inside. Then you can use AES256 encryption for your files and TOR for your browser which makes it pretty fucking difficult if not impossible for the NSA to collect any meaningful information out of you.
>>53891827
>Gaming is still a joke on Linux
>muh games
What are you, a child?
>and there's no Visual Studio or Xcode for linux
Actually, there is:
https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/code-vs.aspx
>>53890264
The best part about this is that if freetards actually had real proof that Microsoft were spying on its users, Microsoft would be in deep shit, fined, and bleeding money over it. They can't produce anything. All they have is blogspam that equates telemetry with spying.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10#Privacy_and_data_collection
>>53891827
>You're living in a fairy tale if you think using Linux would actually protect you from any government determined to spy on you.
I don't necessarily disagree with you on this point. But it would require a government agent targeting me specifically, not me freely bleeding information to be aggregated in the cloud.
>Windows has to become social because everyone uses social media now.
It really doesn't. Most of Microsoft's money from windows comes from enterprises and businesses, which don't need or want social integration or bloat packaged with their OS. This is also evidenced by the fact that they're giving away windows 10 for """free""". Having a majority of users on that platform is more important than charging them for it, they'll make their money from businesses like they always do.
At the very least, they could have given users the choice to turn these integrations off. Instead, they've dumbed down the OS even more. Windows 10 is willingly awful.
>>53891827
>and there's no Visual Studio or Xcode
The GNU toolchain with vim/gcc/gdb/make/build system is far superior anyway. Are you forgetting the fact that Linux is THE operating system BUILT for programming in? Fuck, even google employees use it as their primary development environment.
>>53891827
For the most part I agree with your rebuttals to the ridiculously paranoid claims some people are making here, but...
>You're living in a fairy tale if you think using Linux would actually protect you from any government determined to spy on you.
I'm not worried about being spied on as an individual. It's not about me. Mass surveillance is the issue and most "privacy conscious" people are simply choosing not to participate, rather than hiding because they have something to hide as is so frequently assumed.
>tfw run Xubuntu at home with Windows 7 as secondary OS
>tfw told IT at work that I'd be interested in getting my work computer upgraded from 7 to 10
I have no intention on installing on my own shit, but may as well try it out on a work computer. I'm looking forward to the better multi-monitor support at least. 7 is kind of shit in that regard.
>>53891932
IDK the world has proof that US gov. spies on them but can anyone sie the gov.over it and win? Ofc not patriot act made sure of that.
Freetards can yell bloody murder but nobody's listening.
>>53891245
>Facebook = online.
A system that you decided to fucking use with your Internet.
>Windows10 = An Operating system
A fucking system designed to operate offline but have full network abilities so online can be transparent.
What kind of cunt compares online websites to a system that once never spied on you.
You may not give a shit about your privacy, but I sure as hell do.
Why the fuck should I require hacking the shit out of a default system, all because these retards want data.
So shut the fuck up. Shit the fuck down. Simply give away from privacy while yelling you've nothing to hid.
>You also have nothing to protect?
>>53891827
> You're living in a fairy tale if you think using Linux would actually protect you from any government determined to spy on you.
On most linux distros you at least have a guarantee that this is not happening and you have control over all your system.
>Windows has to become social because everyone uses social media now.
So collecting a lot of personal data is now considered "social"?
>Totally false.
debatable.
>Gaming is still a joke on Linux
but now is a thing for those who prefer linux and there's a good number of games available.
>no Visual Studio or Xcode
Those are good tools but not all people needs to depend on those unless they invested a lot of time on them. In fact i think that using microsoft-only APIs is like tattooing the name of your girlfriend, is a dumb way to lock yourself.
>It isn't capable to replace Windows 10.
For at least 1 of each 100 people it can if you wanna go for the 1% argument. Not being well known is a different issue, people generally just uses what it comes bundled and they don't know even what is an operative system. If windows were popular because people loves MS windows phone would have a much higher marketshare.
>to think that Microsoft would risk everything by actually spying on its users
I think at this point they're big enough and they know that most people is not even informed to just not care.
>and breaking laws
Not if you can bribe the government or if they work in a grey area of law.
>resulting in lawsuits in the US and EU
MS is well known for anticompetitive practices, they have enough money to just pay the fines and a big enough marketing team to make people forget about it, and the proof of that is this very board.
>Your tinfoil hat is extremely tight and you have a terminal case of freetardation.
name calling and bad arguments, is the best you have?
>>53891787
>Time consuming
It takes one file with the ip's/domains and putty to access terminal.
Lmao you're either tech illiterate or trying hard.
>>53891930
to be fair, vs code is not really a replacement for vs. vs is far more feature rich.
>>53892045
>to be fair, vs code is not really a replacement for vs. vs is far more feature rich.
For the Windows platform (aka MS SQL, etc) sure. Who would want to use VS on Linux anyway? The GNU toolchain is so much more elegant.
>>53892099
I agree with you, but please don't use the word "elegant" for the GNU toolchain, it is more reliable, portable AND universal.
>>53892033
>he thinks mpst normie grade walmart routers have this kind of access
Cute
>>53890680
Microsoft's universal backdoor in Windows 7 makes it equal to Windows 10 in spying botnet.
>>53892156
Not sure about Walmart.... not from America. But the very cheap tp-link I own has that access- after all the majority of routers run a modified version of linux kernel.
>>53891999
>A system that you decided to fucking use with your Internet.
This is also true of W10, so you really have no point here.
>>53891945
>But it would require a government agent targeting me specifically, not me freely bleeding information to be aggregated in the cloud.
If you use any service where money and your real name is involved, this is happening, even if you're a complete freetard your bank is still doing it to you.
>>53891880
The risk makes it not worth it. If they actually did anything that wasn't in their EULA, they would get sued.
Microsoft isn't going to turn on your webcam while you're sleeping to find out your darkest secrets because the risk is too damn high. The risk of getting sued conflicts with their goal of making profits.
>>53891914
The Android spyware uses mics and keyloggers, so I don't think that would help.
>>53891930
VS Code is a shitty clone of Atom that has absolutely nothing to do with Visual Studio.
>>53891945
What really pisses me off about this is that you piss and moan about MS making an MS account for Windows 10, but have no problem having a Google account on your fucking Android phone or an Apple ID for your iPhone. They're all just computers. Do you think MS should be denied the opportunities that Google and Apple get just because PC's and Laptops don't fit in your pocket?
>>53891975
There is no mass surveillance in my country. CSIS doesn't even have the resources to do it. They don't even have the money.
>>53891996
US government can't be sued for that.
>>53892031
Nope. Total bullshit. The Android spyware was kernel level stuff, so it could just as easily happen to you. Linux is a privacy placebo for conspiratards.
>Not if you can bribe the government or if they work in a grey area of law.
You keep making more and more unbelievably outrageous claims. First Microsoft was just spying, now Microsoft bribes governments, and the EU and US take bribes! And it isn't a grey area of law at all.
>>53891827
>it collects information about how you use your computer and what happens on your computer
MS terms and privacy statements is very wide on what they can do though, from that point is already bad.
>It isn't useful for Microsoft to know the titles of the books and movies you have saved on your computer.
It is: These companies currently include, but are not limited to: A9, AOL Advertising, AppNexus, Criteo, MediaMath, nugg.adAG, Rocket Fuel, Yahoo!. You may find more information on each company's practices, including the choices it offers, by clicking on the company names above.
Also: http://www.alphr.com/microsoft/microsoft-windows-10/1001360/microsoft-can-disable-your-pirated-games-and-illegal-hardware
>This is so retarded. All you freetards think Microsoft is the Stasi building a profile on you.
ok, it's easy, you keep betting that MS is not doing nothing wrong and you enjoy your glorious windows system and i and other "tinfoils" and "freetards" just keep torturing ourselves with a system from a source we actually trust under terms we find more reasonable. does that sounds fine? we are the ones hurting ourselves after all.
>>53892200
>The Android spyware was kernel level stuff
You do realize that there's more to Linux than Android, right? Try Debian, or Gentoo, Arch, or even FreeBSD/OpenBSD which is also a UNIX-compliant alternative to Linux.
>>53892033
Might blocking mass ranges of IPs is considered IP security.
Most routers simply include firewall rules, port forwarding, and wireless security.
Do not ever think that cheap routers will require IP range blocks.
It is more then needing a file. In fact you need processing power to support more then just blocking.
You see, if routers (Cheap ones) can block IP ranges, then other features such as static mac address locking and perhaps sticky MAC, these would also be desired to follow through.
You would never sell a router to contain one specific security feature without thinking that adding more in would be on the same effort level.
>>53892200
I should had really said "service"
Since windows 10 is a system and not a service.
>>53891932
So many people, like this anon, are misunderstanding the issue.
Microsoft is not "spying", but they are collecting. You consent to this by using their products. Then they comply with programs like PRISM and in turn are contributing to mass surveillance efforts which diminish our basic freedoms.
Since MS obviously can't opt-out of these programs, they should be allowing their users to opt-out of the data collection and in turn opt-out of mass surveillance. But they don't, they make it a requirement of product usage that you let our overreaching, non-transparent government hold a record of your habits and opinions.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/03/25/ethiopia-telecom-surveillance-chills-rights
Right now they say it's for terrorism, but when does having a dissenting opinion become terrorism? Why the fuck would you want to wait and see? Why not stand up for your rights now?
>>53892251
Works for me.
>>53892200
>so it could just as easily happen to you
Maybe on android, open source is just as good as the software provider is, however if i take open source software from a source with better reputation that offers better guarantees and their terms are better do, it can happen, but you still think is that easy?, also if a software provider behaves shitty we can just use a different system while retaining software and files compatibility, this is not true for those who invested a lot on microsoft-only programs, formats and APIs.
>Linux is a privacy placebo for conspiratards.
privacy placebo for conspiratards or just people caring for how their software provider treats them? that's up to you.
>unbelievably outrageous claims.
IF microsoft had a better reputation and history it would be easy to trust them or even to forgive easily a mistake, every company can make mistakes, however those guys already have a pretty bad history. google is your friend, no need to believe my "outrageous claims".
>>53890264
>and your days of feeling like a shill because you use Windows 10 bot-ware will be over.
how fucking ironic, shilling your own software GUI made in virtual basic
>>53892200
>What really pisses me off about this is that you piss and moan about MS making an MS account for Windows 10, but have no problem having a Google account on your fucking Android phone or an Apple ID for your iPhone. They're all just computers.
Firstly, this isn't a fair comparison. Yes they are all computers in the same way my TI-84 calculator is a computer. They serve completely different purposes. I use my phone VERY differently than I use my OS. I do have a problem with the tracking on my phone, and I use my phone differently as a result of that tracking. I'm not willing to make that compromise on my OS and I shouldn't have to.
>Do you think MS should be denied the opportunities that Google and Apple get just because PC's and Laptops don't fit in your pocket?
MS can do whatever they want, and they clearly have.
It's just a shitty thing to do. I've been using windows since 95 and for the first time, I feel like I cant' "upgrade" because of this bullshit. It's a shame because windows 10 COULD be a great OS in a year or two when it's more stable, if it weren't for the unwarranted deprecation of user control and forced telemetry.
>>53892200
>Linux is a privacy placebo for conspiratards.
None of the packages, software suits, and network stack protocols spy on me.
Conspiracy would imply assumptions. I can confirm my linux/gnu system does not spy on me.
>Good day sir retard.
>>53892382
What do you have ti hide?
>>53892434
What do I have to protect?
>Privacy
>My programs (Programmer)
>My home network - muh files
You know, your life may be standard shit, but at least I admit mine to also mean privacy = priceless shit.
windows is small and soft but it's really quite useful
>>53892434
>Set my HTPC to use Win10 because the NSA has my Netflix queue anyways
>Decide to put Mint+Cinammon on it for shits and giggles just to see if there really is a better way
>Screen aspect at 1080p cuts off top/bottom of tv screen
>Literally no driver or way to fix it
>On a fucking common ass HD 4000 platform
>Some forum neckbeard suggests sketchy terminal scripts
>Right back to Botnet 10
Never again will I listen to you hipsters.
>>53890264
Why did you link to a unofficial torrent when you could have linked to the official Github page?
https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying
>>53892685
b-but they collect all the data to fight the terrorists, t-that makes it ok r-right? I don't care if they see my 6tb collection of c-c-cuck porn.
>yfw turning off telemetry on enterprise via group policy doesn't turn it off
>>53892795
;-)
>>53890760
You don't seem to understand how the Internet works. Information is a commodity; it's something you have to earn, and the more information someone has on you, the more power they have over you to make your life shit if they so desire. You don't go around attempting to nab it from people and expect them to be hunky dory over it, because even if you yourself don't intend to do anything malicious with that information, (you) tend to be imbeciles liable to leak said information into the hands of someone that will, and for a high-profile company like Microsoft, it's not a matter of if it will happen, it's a matter of when, especially given their lack of competence in the field of cyber-security in the recent years.
If you're so confident that you have nothing to hide, why don't you get a trip so we can filter you? You're the type of person that is the precise reason why we and everyone that has half a brain on the web go to great lengths to protect our info, because quislings like you and Snowden would leak every piece of information you got your hands on to the world for no other reason than to amuse yourselves.
>>53892434
>>53890264
Thabks OP, I just got 20gb of dolphin porn
ITT freetards btfo
>2016
>disabling Microshill Winblows features
Get a load of this fucking pleb
>>53890760
>apps on pc
>>53890264
<- the only reasonable choice
>>53892183
That's why people still using XP SP3 and complain about lack of driver when manufacturers stop making xp driver for their 2016 hardware
>>53895992
You do know microshit ported the telemetry updates for Windows 8 and 7 too right?
>>53892183
Obviously there is a backdoor in every version since XP, but if you must use Windows, just use Windows 7 and disable auto updates. That's the best option right now.
>>53895992
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Windows 7 has become shit now, prajeets are pretty desperate
A firewall will block the telemetry on Windows 10 right?
Inbound rules:
None needed
Outbound rules:
(DNS) svchost.exe UDP remote:53
(DHCP) svchost.exe UDP local:68 remote:67
(Browser) firefox.exe TCP remote:80, 443
>>53896407
>implying it will
>>53896184
>advocating running an OS without years of security fixes
>>53890264
No matter what you do it will send whatever it wants back to MS. There is only one true way to disable win10 spyware. Install Gentoo.
>>53890264
Just use Spybot anti-beacon retard
>>53890671
>trust me
No other words make me this suspicious.
Absolutely nothing can be trusted other than blocking at the hardware level on your router.
Nothing you do to your computer other than avoiding a microsoft OS can be trusted to stop this stuff.
>>53896141
>>53896242
you hide those updates
>>53896212
no, not really
>>53896487
If you're using Windows, just forget about security. And no, I don't advocate for using a proprietary operating system.
>>53891472
Don't have that problem with Gentoo
>>53890922
obvious shill
>People itt
Delete system31
>>53890264
IGNORE ANYONE WHO JUSTIFIES WINDOWS 10 SPYWARE
The only way to 100% avoid Microsoft spying on you is to not use Windows or not connect to the internet. If you have to use Windows 10 (like on a surface 4), this is what I've concluded:
1. Start with Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB (N ver. optional). It's the only one without the auto update rootkit.
2. Go through these scripts and disable the spyware:
>http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/57339-Guide-Way-to-Disable-Keylogger-Telemetry-v3-4
>http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/63498-Windows-10-TNBT-%28The-next-big-tweak%29-official-thread
3. Install the best 3rd party Windows 10 spyblocker you can find. like
>https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/
Note: there are anecdotes of the third party programs and setting configurations in w10 being ignored and still sending data to M$.
>http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/64482-NONE-of-the-Windows-Anti-Spy-Tweaks-work!-DATA-MINING-CONFIRMED
4. Apply a deny by default to your firewall.
>http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/64640-Windows-Firewall-Configuration-Truly-Block-EVERYTHING
>http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/174264-experimenting-with-windows-firewall-to-block-by-default
Test with wireshark / router settings to make sure nothing escapes.
>>53890508
> I ran this program and now I have ebola wat do
Download Zika-chan. Install AIDS. Let them have a three-way in you and produce a true demon spawn.
Book a flight to India. Do a lot of traveling, fuck a lot of bitches.
>>53899124
Two cups of tea for this gentleman.
>>53890320
I've had Windows 10 since basically release. I have never had a forced update and didn't do any tinkering to turn it off.
>>53890606
Linux and homOSeX have it too
>>53890802
Some people type thousands of words per day that would be in the KB and MB you really think you could send that much fucking data in a few packets? Are you fucking stupid or trolling?
>>53891245
>>53891273
>>53891348
>>53891494
>>53891495
>>53891787
>>53891880
>>53892871
>>53896407
See >>53899195
Allegedly a ip block list is ineffective and very difficult to maintain. The best solution is to block all and have a specific whitelist.
Microsoft isn't "spying" on us, they're not gonna steal the credit card #s. What they're doing is more profitable. Big data, even anonymous data is incredibly valuable.
