>"TN panels suck for colour!!!! D:"
>turn on digital vibrance
>can't tell the difference
>>53888939
>can't tell the difference
>on a fucking TN
>ever
anon, I got bad news for you regarding your health
>>53889066
>pretending you can tell the difference
cognitive dissonance speaks
>>53888939
Okay, now look at your display from any angle except dead-on, enjoy your color distortion.
>>53888939
>hue
huehuehuehuehue
>>53889230
>do something retarded that nobody will ever do
>>53888939
>increase vibrance
>lose contrast
thats just how it goes on garbage panels
I have a TN panel too OP. its garbage though and Im never going to pretend that I wouldnt prefer an IPS one
>>53889354
like buying a TN panel?
>>53889096
One has true black other has some sort of gray black - no scale for different blacks.
It affects the depth of image, + the colors look alike what you would see if you were watching outside your house trough your window during day time.
Sure you won't see a difference if you're basement dweller, you never seen the day - how could you tell the difference? It's all light for you.
>>53889404
>TN
>IPS
>True black
As far as I know, *OLED is the only screen type with true black
>>53888939
Move a couple inches to your right, you will tell
>>53888939
i guess you dont know about the adobe rbg standard
Slightly better if your pocket is big and you watch movies all day where it does matter for that extra colors.
IPS is just good and MUUUUUUUUUUUUCH cheaper + superior to TN in color / black aspect.
I watch a movie once / month so I don't quite care m8.
I just went from an old TN monitor to a new but relatively cheap IPS monitor. It's a huge difference, and I highly recommend it.
>>53889246
>>53889354
>nobody will ever do
So what if more than one person tries to look at your screen, genius? Sit them down one by one?
>>53889532
You forgot CRTs
>>53889718
>implying there is any situation in the history of ever where anyone looking at your screen would give a shit about minor 'color distortion'.
Seriously, who the fuck cares?
>>53889768
Hi I'm a cg artist, fuck you. kthxbai.
CRTs are the best display
>get true blacks
>high refresh rate
>0 lag
Why the fuck did we all fall for the flat meme?
>>53888939
>Can't tell the difference in the blacks
>Doesn't into viewing angles.
Fuck off
>>53889354
TN panels have such bad viewing angles that the top of the screen and the bottom of the screen have different distortion.
>destroying your monitor with digital vibrance
Have you ever used an IPS panel? Rather than crying when I stare at my TN monitors on my desktop all day, my jaw drops every time I open up my X220T and am reminded what an IPS panel really entails.
It's fine if you're okay with the worse panel, but don't you dare pretend you can't tell the difference you sick fuck.
>>53890155
the jews (companies and industries)
same reason people think 4:3 is bad when it's literally the same width we use now but with more height
and now it's getting worse with the ultrawide meme
>>53889768
fuck off retard
just because your stupid ass has no idea why good color reproduction on a monitor is important doesn't mean everyone has to be afflicted with your retardation.
>>53890155
Why not use IGZO OLED?
![8-630.2226279593[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8CXUKXd.jpg "8-630.2226279593[1].jpg")
I fell for this when I bought the Dell 27" gaming monitor that uses an 8 bit TN panel. Still not comparable to IPS, let alone VA.
Rocking a Z35 now and let me tell you, VA is simply the best. Anyone with an IPS panel should go use a good VA and see all the blacks you're missing. I'll never go back from VA, never go back from ultrawide, never go back from 144Hz. Gsync is nice, but I think I would be OK without it.
>>53890409
i want all that, but in 40+ inches 4k.
i know the koreans have this space magic but i'm waiting for it to come down in price.
>>53890409
>ultrawide
>144 Hz
>curved monitor in pic
Get that gaymer shit out of here. This is useless meme technology.
VA is pretty good, though.
>>53890478
/g/ hating on games is a meme that needs to die.
it wasn't funny then, it's not funny now.
>>53890490
There is nothing wrong with games. There is something wrong with gamers. Many gamers know absolutely nothing about technology but think they're experts because they spent $3000 on hardware.
Ultrawide and 144Hz displays are both marketed to gamers, and they are both stupid.
>>53890392
>>53889851
yes im sure you have people lining up all day at the side of your monitor to see whats on it
face it, you lost this argument
>>53890548
Wouldn't 144Hz monitors eliminate 3:2 pulldown judder in 24 fps films and instead just just show each frames 6 times?
>>53890556
TN is so bad that being off by <10 degrees makes colors distractingly inaccurate. As I said above, it's bad enough that there is distortion between the top and bottom of the screen!
>>53889758
We're discussing modern technology here.
Luddites ho elsewhere.
>>53890583
Yes. That doesn't matter in practice. With proper blending between frames you will not notice judder at 60Hz (or, hell, even 30Hz). Normal 3:2 pulldown already eliminates judder for the most part and modern digital techniques are even better.
>>53890548
>144Hz displays are both marketed to gamers, and they are both stupid.
This is how I know you've never used a high refresh rate monitor. You could argue that ultrawide is stupid, but the immersion when gaming is pretty great. There is no way that anyone could say 144Hz isn't worth it, even for casual desktop use.
>>53890718
You need an extremely powerful machine to drive a display at those refresh rates. Most 144Hz panels make large tradeoffs in image quality. 144Hz is almost certainly not worth it. There are other vastly more cost-effective upgrades.
>casual desktop use
Now I know that this is bait.
>>53890382
>the ultrawide meme
or you could look at ultrawide as two 4:3 monitors side by side
>>53890583
yeah but 120hz does it better and easier which is why most televisions use it
>tfw no 120hz va monitor
literally kill me
>>53890155
and the most important
>TV sets are programmed to mimic the response curve of CRTs(ITU-T BT.1886)
>>53890651
>blending
that's distorting the original image.
>inb4 motion interpolation
same thing, it distorts the image and it leaves artifacts.
>>53891269
EZIO FG2421 can be set to 120hz, same with the newer ultrawide Acer VAs
>>53890324
This.
I just can't even comprehend how people aren't bothered by this, or don't even notice it.
Even the best TN panels have a vertical viewing angle sensitive enough that there is variation from top to bottom even when viewing it from the ideal position.
>>53891528
>EZIO FG2421
>$600
wew
>ultrawide Acer VAs
as far as I know all of them are 2560x1080 at 34," right
so far the best bet seems to be the LG 29" ultrawide
>IPS
>freesync
>possibly 75hz
>>53888939
Sorry, can't hear you faggots over the sound of how awesome my Sony FW900 is...
>>53891580
>as far as I know all of them are 2560x1080 at 34," right
Correct, which is a good resolution for gaming right now. 1440p versions are supposed to be coming late this year I think.
>>53889532
Plasma
>>53889715
I'm convinced that the only reason this plane lost out on the contract is that stupid looking inlet.
>>53891799
Literally, it's gotten a pretty bad coil whine at this point.
>tfw you'll never score some of these beauties
Think this: These fuckers could do 5k easily with a few tweaks.
>>53892889
Seriously, no coil whine at all, this one is picked up from a warehouse auction, brand new, I have used it for a few years now, got two more boxed in my garage.
>>53892894
That's shit, 5K? Most of widescreen CRT's do over 4K without any tweaks with 100hz refresh, there are better ones then in your picture.
>>53891000
Extremely powerful? KEK poor fag detected
>>53894445
Wait, flashback
>>53890548
>There is nothing wrong with games. There is something wrong with gamers. Many gamers know absolutely nothing about technology but think they're experts because they spent $3000 on hardware.
And lo and behold, the cycle just repeats again and again.
>>53894593
Just jelly because my work gives me enough money and free time to play and spend of gaming and great hardware, still having time and money for my wife and friends.
>>53894593
Also how are technology knowledge and money/hardware price related?
>>53888939
TNs look awful compared to IPS when you put them right next to each other.
Get a high resolution image with lots of detail and compare the colors and details.
Then move your head around and look at the angles and how the image completely distorts on a TN.
>>53888939
I had no idea how bad TN was until I got an IPS and was able to see them side by side. It's like a whole other world.
>>53890548
144hz is nice anon, it actually makes everything move smoother in your OS too, not just games.
>>53891000
You can get a 144hz IPS 27" 1440p for around $600
You might think that's a lot, but it looks fucking amazing.
>>53888939
Asus Spendid color does wonders for color accuracy on my $199 E200HA, it won't turn TN into IPS but it at least makes it more than tolerable.
>>53888939
maybe your eyes aren't real, bro
>>53888939
>unironically thinking this garbage software setting will turn your piece of shit garbage TN panel into something good
|_ |\/| /-\ ( )
>>53894866
Except you sound like a fucking teenager, I'm positive mommy bought you you're pc
>>53889758
>he actually believes this
>>53891000
Image quality isn't the purpose of a 144Hz panel.
It does two things: it makes screen tearing less annoying without vsync since you don't want input lag in games which require fast reaction times, and it updates your screen as frequently (or more frequently) as the server's tickrate, so you get all the information.
When I play a game like Counter-Strike, I give fuck all about color quality and I'm willing to have all the color washed out if it means I can see my enemies better.
Obviously, you wouldn't use a 144Hz TN panel for doing color work as it is not intended for that.
>>53888939
>fucking with gamma sliders, ever
You literally have cataracts on your eyes, go to a doctor anon.
>graphic designers can spot things about color just because it's part of their vocabulary
>you dont even know it exists cause you dont know theres a goddamn science about color gamit
I got an old tn tilted to portait mode next to a proper ips monitor.
Colours on the tn are all messed up but i calibrated the ips to look equally distorted so i don't really notice anymore.
>tfw old as fuck HP monitor
>tfw as time goes by colors become less vibrant
>tfw I have to turn digital vibrance to 55% to get back the colors.
>>53888939
>Hue
>>53894898
They aren't, that's his point. That there are a lot of guys in the gaming community who threw a bunch of money at the most expensive shit they could because obviously expensive means better, so now they think they're fucking tech gurus.
>>53896365
>you're
You're a fucking idiot.
>>53892145
yes thats a good reoslution but not at that size
fuck, it basically has the pixel density of a graphing calculator
>>53897940
Kill you're self
>>53890548
>144hz
>stupid
you have obviously never used a 144hz panel
>>53889404
>ips
>true black
You've been drinking some cool aid there.
TN is definately shit, but it's shit for 2 very important reasons:
- shit viewing angles
- only 6bit color representation (can be 8 or even 10bit with FRC though)
IPS is SHIT for blacks and SHIT for contrast.
Notice how LG TVs always look washed out compared to everything else at the store - that's because they're the only people stupid enough to use IPS on a TV.
VA will always be the best for monitors and TVs.
IPS is shit contrast but due to the great viewing angles it's best for phones/tablets that aren't already OLED.
>>53891269
Just get a 144hz monitor and run it at 120hz...
Are you actual stupid?
>>53898715
I know how to do that you dumbass. What I'm saying is that 144hz is completely unncessary for anything and that I'd rather have a cheaper more reasonably priced monitor at 120hz or even 96hz but nope, either it's a $100 60hz monitor or a $500+ 144hz monitor
>>53893558
>>Most of widescreen CRT's do over 4K without any tweaks with 100hz refresh, there are better ones then in your picture.
This is a straight up lie. Not even FW900 does 4K at 100Hz.
>>53888939
boosting the colors doesn't make your screen look more natural
How come there are no 144Hz 1080p IPS monitors?
>>53889758
This may surprise you anon but there were a lot of cheap bad crt monitors. I know I owned a few. Those silicon graphics monitors were out of everyone's price range and trinitrons weren't affordable until almost the end of life.
>>53892881
they revised it later and they still lost
>>53899003
Because 1080p is for poorfags.
>>53889532
A properly calibrated CRT too
>>53890382
>same reason people think 4:3 is bad when it's literally the same width we use now but with more height
16:9 is not 4:3, they're different fucking ratios. So they're not the same, therefore people can express a preference between them.
I prefer 16:9, it's closer to the shape of my peripheral vision, as it is to many others.
>it's literally the same width we use now but with more height
It's proportionally less width, that's how ratios work.
>>53890155
>tfw SED could have been the Flat CRT
>got stuck on patent hell
hold me brother
>>53890397
Because it's still inferior to the mighty CRT
>Shitty Sample and Hold Blur
>Shitty fixed pixels
>Shitty input lag
Give me Laser Scanning TV instead...now that's the true CRT successor
>>53898979
>Not even FW900 does 4K at 100Hz.
FW900 is a meme
It's not the best CRT Monitor
Nokia 445Pro is better and can do 344hz refresh rate
Some CRT projectors have 180khz scanrate and could easily do 4K at 100hz or more(most likely at an interlaced resolution) but not monitors
>>53889532
VA can get really dark, dark enough for 4000-5000:1 static contrast.
More VAs on the market with high refresh plus strobing is enough for me. My FG2421 is better than any CRT I've ever used.
>>53900760
>more VAs on the market with high refresh
>lists the only one
nigger that monitor is slick AF but its really expensive and has no competition
>>53902939
No, there are more. Like this one >>53890409, and IIRC a few more down the pipe.
>>53890155
>high refresh rate
More like high refresh late + low res or <60hz and a decent res. If you can stand 60hz on a CRT or a res lower than 1080p then you're a better man than I
