That's it. After about 10 years I'm finally getting rid of this piece of shit. It now keeps freezing every few minutes and hogs GBs of ram. They even made the search bar unusable and removed the option to bring back the old one.
How is Opera and its addon support nowadays?
>Opera
>>53887975
That bad? I really don't like Chrome, but I'm gonna start using it, if I really don't have any other viable option
>>53888016
https://vivaldi.com/
made by old opera team. shit's been in beta since fuckin forever but hopefully something happens with this.
also complaining about ram usage in web browsers is fuckin stupid since obviously more resources will be used as time goes on since comuters will only get faster
>>53887950
Works on my machine homeboy
>>53888084
>>53887950
>It now keeps freezing every few minutes and hogs GBs of ram.
Never happened to me
>>53887950
47 tabs nigga.
>>53888084
Vivaldi is crap. Slow as fuck didnt even bother to check how much ram is used because it is utterly unusable.
Can you stop with these threads? Do you have nothing better to do with your life?
>>53888233
Not atm
>>53887950
>2016
>bitching about RAM issues
>>53887950
>Samefagging this thread every day now.
Just admit it. You really wish there was a better browser, but there isn't.
>>53888233
Yep he maybe use new version of Internet Explorer
Safari for faggots
You probably have all kinds of half-broken add-ons and assorted "clever tweaks" bogging you down. Just make a new profile.
>>53888451
I've had the same profile for 10 years though
>>53888459
Nice, you proved his point.
>>53888489
I dont know what shit ive done over the past decade to make it just werx.
Profile isnt the issue
>>53888459
Reinforcing my point.
I'm in the same boat, for the record. Firefox on desktop from 2011 is performing worse than Firefox on laptop from 2008, because the profile of the former is from 2009, with all kinds of shit, while the latter is just a couple of months old.
>>53888510
Uninstall, delete everthing and start again.
>>53888570
Fuck that.
>>53888594
Buy a mac then u pleb
>>53888594
Keep whining then, bitch. You know the problem and you know the solution now. You don't solve because you are a masochist.
>>53888630
Profile isnt the problem. Process functions the same regardless.Yeah ill accept the load times,but beyond that, profile dosent matter
>>53888718
Try a new profile you bitch.
Good job chumming the waters, OP.
>tfw opening a single tab on Breitbart news
wtf is wrong with their website?
>>53888820
idk but when I open an article on that site on my phone and hit the sleep button my phone will heat up slowly over time. happened to my friend as well. On my PC the RAM firefox uses just steadily creeps up.
>>53888820
>>53888850
JavaScript bitcoin miner.
>>53887950
>op try this
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/3wxkqh/today_i_moved_back_to_firefox_use_64_bit_async/
>>53888233
I like them. It lets me use my 4chan-bullshit sense to judge the merits of various web browsers.
>>53888718
>profile dosent matter
about:support has a Refresh Firefox button for a reason. Firefox had historically had weird profile corruption issues and bad tweaks and addons can also fuck things up.
>>53889099
>refresh
For the normies who cant manage addons or know where the profile folder is to manage it.
Next.
>>53888195
Don't know the fuck is the problem with these fags and their RAM consumption on Firefox.
Here is
Chrome with 8 tabs
Firefox with 45 tabs
Why the hell does Chrome needs so many processes. If one of them crashes it always need to close everything and open from scratch anyway.
>>53888820
firefox is 64bit on windows now.
you posted this thread at least once before within the last 24 hours. stop reposting your lies faggot.
>>53887950
>It now keeps freezing every few minutes and hogs GBs of ram
just like chrome :^)
>>53887950
Looks like someone should have fallen for the 16GB ram meme
>>53887950
>How is Opera and its addon support nowadays?
Uses the same Chrome extensions, but it has some exclusives, because Opera has a sidebar where you can put some extensions too.
Install the beta, it has a native ad blocking.
>>53889427
Played.
>>53887950
>How is Opera and its addon support nowadays?
Don't bother, they're not even trying not to be a chromium skin. They're also getting bought by some chinese marketing company.
Use Vivaldi if you want a chromium clone that tries to do things differently. It runs chrome add-ons right out of the store.
>>53888903
Does this break noscript? I've had Firefox hang or stop displaying after a long session so this is interesting.
>RAM is a issue for some people
lol
>>53889700
>No mobile version
>No data saving/vpn
>No native adblocking
>Still in beta
>Inferior speed dial
>>53887950
Mods pls ban this retard for spam
>>53889952
>data saving/vpn
You got fooled.
>>53888259
>bitching about RAM issues
Looks like someone fell for the 16GiB RAM meme ...
>>53890001
my data plan says otherwise
Switch to tete build and enable e10s. I rarely make it above 400MB.
Just use Chromium. RAM usage isn't that bad, it's using 750mb for me right now.
>but it's a botnet
Every decent browser out there is a botnet. IE and Edge are botnets. Firefox gets most of its funding from Google, so it's a botnet. Chrome and Chromium are just like the rest of them.
The only way out of the botnet is to use some shitty unusable browser like Midori.
Opera is pretty good mayne, my only hang-up is the gay ass heart icon as bookmark which you can't change as far as I know. They have some faggy "news" tab thing too but it's not as bad as Firefox's menu thing.
>>53890032
>data plan
man, you are not on top of it.
>>53890141
You can disable the news thing in the latest beta.
>>53890251
Also using Opera Turbo I can browse 4chan from my work.
>>53889952
>No mobile version
Who gives a shit?
>No data saving/vpn
That doesn't make any sense.
>No native adblocking
None of the other browsers have native adblocking.
>Still in beta
That's how software starts
>Inferior speed dial
Inferior to what? Opera?
>>53890302
>Who gives a shit?
Too poor to have a smartphone?
>That doesn't make any sense.
Both Chrome and Opera has that thing.
>None of the other browsers have native adblocking.
Opera, UC Browser and Maxthon has native adblocking
>That's how software starts
Indeed, right now, Vivaldi is shit
>Inferior to what? Opera?
Yes. No grouping, or thumbail chooser. Also no special speed dial elements like unread mail count or rss news
>>53890270
seems legit man checking it out now
>>53887950
There was a guy yesterday on a thread like this shilling the fuck out of Opera, so much that I got curious and I'm trying it now, I found replacements for all addons I used on firefox, opera imported everything from firefox with no issue.
I'm on Obongo btw, works well and I'm liking it so far, I'll give it a spin for a couple of weeks and see how it goes.
>>53888016
If your main complaints are high RAM usage and lack of customization, Chrome makes those problems worse.
FF is going to shit, but it's still better than anything else for now. I might finally jump ship once they kill the addon system, but I don't know what I'll use instead.
>>53890097
>RAM usage isn't that bad
It's worse than FF.
>Firefox gets most of its funding from Google, so it's a botnet.
It's FOSS. We know it's not a botnet. The Google funding causes a conflict of interest, but we know that it is still safe.
>>53891113
It is starting to be a botnet. So many new forks, just to remove the botnet from FF and support all the stuff they're breaking for no reason.
>>53891287
>replacing their decade old rendering engine and insecure addon support
>no reason
>>53888880
kek'd
>>53889827
found the mozilla dev
>>53891300
>insecure
I do not need my browser to wipe my ass for me. They are throwing away the best parts of FF.
>>53891365
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/04/noscript-and-other-popular-firefox-add-ons-open-millions-to-new-attack/
>sandboxing addons so they can't hijack each other and your browser itself is "wiping your ass for you"
>>>/v/
using firefox after gayzilla fired brendan eich for having an opinion different than their own... lol. is /g/ infested with SJWs or something? just use chromium and be done with it.
>>53891395
>malware extension uses JS libraries from other extensions
>sharing code is bad!
>why don't all my extensions protect me from installing bad code on my machine?
It is ultimately the user's responsibility not install malicious extensions. If they had written all their own code to do the same functions, the result would be the same, because their extensions signing garbage is security snake oil without an impractical level of review. This scenario has and will continue to play out on the google store as well.
>>53887950
>40 tabs
All working fine and fast. Not a problem here. Even with YouTube videos playing. Maybe it's because of add-ons like uMatrix. Also I have 6 GB or RAM.
Pic related.
>>53892730
Why would you do this?
I've been using firefox exclusively since ~06. Seriously considering dumping this piece of shit garbage bullshit. A webpage freezing causes the whole browser to shit itself. Too much bloat, too much disk utilization, too much fucking freezing and crashing. Unfortunately there are no viable alternatives considering both form and function so there.
>>53888195
>47 tabs
Fucking casuals get the fuck out
>>53892842
>A webpage freezing causes the whole browser to shit itself.
browser.tabs.remote.autostart true
dom.ipc.processCount 5
Try this and restart firefox.
>>53891395
>Adblock Plus was found to contain no flaws that could be exploited by a malicious add-on
kek uOrigin fags BTFO
>>53893235
Only the top 10 extensions were tested and uBlock Origin was not one of them.
>>53889280
google has to keep track of you somehow, goyim
>>53887950
it's either this huge boated piece of dogshit or Chrome an equally bloated piece of dogshit, on your bloated or deprecated piece of dogshit OS, enjoy
Which is the better Firefox alt.? Palemoon or Waterfox? I just want to watch hitbox
>>53889481
>>53890270
how to disable that synchronization button?
>>53893627
about:flags
#hide-sync-login-button
>>53892865
i'm using stable 45 on linux but it doesn't enable 'multiprocess windows' as 1/1 in about:support unless you also set layers.offmainthreadcomposition.testing.enabled as true
>>53893566
cyberfox
>>53893735
does not work, I tried both activated and deactivated but the button is still there. (Opera 37.0 beta)
why the fuck do you retards insist on having like 50 fucking tabs open at the same time? the most I ever have is like 3-5 max no wonder your browser uses a ton of ram...
>>53888195
>32 bitar
>>53888195
>32bit
>>53893867
I know right? It helps that I've gotten jaded to this site and close threads the moment they 404 instead of going over the replies again or even saving them.
>>53893806
Make an Opera account, use a temporary mail for that and disable all the syncronization options
>>53889952
>mfw no longer in beta
>get the opportunity to be the first one to laugh at your information being outdated
http://thenextweb.com/apps/2016/04/06/vivaldis-browser/
Use qute
>>53888195
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/
Install 64bit
Opera is chink shit now, don't use it.
opinions about dev edition of ff?
downloaded the 64bit version at release for the novelty, been working pretty well so far.
>>53888195
>Svensk
>SAAB
Min broder från en annan moder.
>>53892865
>dom.ipc.processCount
should this be set equal to the amount of tabs you have opened?
>>53893867
my problem has become so out of control that I just installed a tab manager that basically makes the tabs into a second bookmark source
>>53892730
If I don't use it full screen streams or videos stutter
>>53889280
>Why the hell does Chrome needs so many processes. If one of them crashes it always need to close everything and open from scratch anyway.
each tab is a seperate process or some shit
doesn't help when 99% of the time the whole browser locks up anyways
>>53893867
sometimes I forget to close things
sometimes I need to keep them open
sometimes I just like lurking a lot
I can easily be running 200 tabs and not even notice
>it keeps freezing
i thought i fucked something up.
is it actually a widespread issue?
>>53894723
Tried it out, way too crashy for some of my extensions. Not much sense in keeping the Dev Ed except for e10s so I switched to pcxFirefox.
>>53895348
For many people, sole blame can be attributed to the SSL Observatory setting in HTTPS Everywhere.
>>53895348
firefox has been a pile of crashy shit for almost a decade now
>>53895443
This. Most complaining comes from people that fucked their profiles with "tweaks" or addons that slow down or freeze FF.
>>53888214
You sound like you didn't even install it.
>>53890020
You just implied having 16 means you won't have RAM issues and anything less means you will. Looks like you fell for the you fell for the meme.
>>53887950
but Chrome using more memory per one tab one process architecture...
maybe you're using bad written extensions?
How retarded am I?
>>53895868
fucking hell
>>53895868
OP must be a loonix tard, FF is shitty on their toy OS.
>>53890348
>>53888195
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/create-bookmarks-save-your-favorite-webpages
>>53895868
By the way, I've forgotten, is there any good add-ons that group my tabs by url? thats 224 tabs, a month ago i had about 850 tabs open.
[spoiler] I have no add ons installed besides Adblock Latitude, and ebook reader[/spoiler]
>>53895879
OP asked about Opera.
Stay salty, /v/eddit
>>53890348
>Too poor to have a smartphone?
And you seem too retarded to notice we're discussing desktop browsers. Stay on topic or refrain from replying to me or my son ever again.
>Both Chrome and Opera has that thing.
Chrome doesn't, it goes against the point of the browser itself and ublock origin is what you should be using, anyway. Why settle for a limited built in solution which will only block what they deem blockable.
>Opera, UC Browser and Maxthon has native adblocking
So a chrome skin, a chinese botnet and an IE skin. You're just special, aren't you?
>Indeed, right now, Vivaldi is shit
It's much more like old opera than opera itself. Where is the status bar, the notes, the custom CSS menu, the downloads sidebar, the fucking bookmarks? Where is the basic browser functionality in modern opera, and how much are their chinese owners paying you to shitpost?
>Yes. No grouping, or thumbail chooser. Also no special speed dial elements like unread mail count or rss news
Opera adds a text thumbnail as default, that's just poor behavior. Also if you're concerned about mail, Vivaldi is eventually getting a fully functional mail client.
>>53894992
No, keep it around 3 - 7, even if you have hundreds of tabs. It'll keep things smooth.
Also disable SSL Observatory addon, it tends to slow down Firefox a lot.
>>53896490
thanks. that seems to solve it
Firefox definitely works fine here. I only have a 0.06 load average. I mean I like Chrome more but I think you just have some malware.
Does anyone know why mpv playing affects the smoothness with which firefox scrolls?
>>53895868
Don't you have loading tabs only on demand enabled?
>>53897016
Also use the fucking tab groups and tree style tabs, jessu.
>>53896840
Probably something to do with hardware acceleration
My only gripe with Firefox is that since version 43 or so, full-screen HTML5 video playback stutters like crazy. Like the screen flickers between the actual video and a complete black screen about six times per second. No idea what causes it. I do stream most of my media through mpv+youtube-dl, but some YT copyrighted videos can't be watched that way.
>>53888195
C U C K
U
C
K
>>53887950
>It now keeps freezing every few minutes and hogs GBs of ram.
PEBKAC
>They even made the search bar unusable
Bullshit
>>53887950
Firefox is fine. I use it most of the time. I have a lot of clients that us it. Generally with less issues than IE or Chrome but it is a program and can get messed up. In the most current ver. (as in all versions of Firefox) you can customized anything you like.
If your having problems with it maybe you should look into the mirror cause that's where your real problem lies cause you lie or are just dumb. Either way you shouldn't be posting stuff you have no clue about.
>>53896264
>And you seem too retarded to notice we're discussing desktop browsers. Stay on topic or refrain from replying to me or my son ever again.
Don't bite your own tongue. Clearly the discussion here is about Firefox and Opera, you were the one who shilled Vivaldi without anyone asking for it.
>Chrome doesn't, it goes against the point of the browser itself and ublock origin is what you should be using, anyway. Why settle for a limited built in solution which will only block what they deem blockable.
What the fuck are you talking about? Can you read? What does ublock has to do with this thing? Chrome has a Data saving technology just like Opera.
>So a chrome skin, a chinese botnet and an IE skin. You're just special, aren't you?
By your retarded point of view, Vivaldi is a Chrome skin too. Speaking of IE, IE11 has native adblocking too.
>It's much more like old opera than opera itself. Where is the status bar, the notes, the custom CSS menu, the downloads sidebar, the fucking bookmarks? Where is the basic browser functionality in modern opera, and how much are their chinese owners paying you to shitpost?
Don't get me wrong, Vivaldi looks promising, but right now is still a beta garbage.
>Opera adds a text thumbnail as default, that's just poor behavior. Also if you're concerned about mail, Vivaldi is eventually getting a fully functional mail client.
Have you ever used Opera? The text thumbnail is optional. You can choose among a variety of options for your thumbnails, from a big icon to a screenshot of the site.
Is there any way to enable multi process in normal Firefox 45 64-bit? I tried changing browser.tabs.remote and browser.tabs.remote.autostart to true but it did nothing.
what about Comodo Dragon?
i used to love the Comodo firewall years ago, no idea if they still do good software
>>53899448
bump for this
>>53900824
no. is this a joke?
>>53888294
>You really wish there was a better browser, but there isn't.
/this thread forever
>>53887950
>fall for the chromium meme
>>53888880
It would use a lot of CPU, not RAM
>>53900856
why are you fags acting like pale moon does not exist?
>>53900849
why? it's based on chromium
you're literally acting like Carl the Cuck
>"ohmagawd are you kidding me??? are you seriously asking me to explain my reasoning???"
>>53889827
"is what he said when explaining to the board why the last update uses almost twice the previous 500MB per tab"
>>53900895
if you want a chromium based browser get iridium, not some retarded proprietary mod on top of googles botnet.
>>53897448
>They even made the search bar unusable
>Bullshit
it's true. I could just select the site, write a few letters until the autocomplete hits and press enter or just click on an entry in the autocomplete drop down. now I have to navigate through the autocomplete list using the arrow keys (can't even click it because it automatically uses the default site), move the cursor over shitload of icons to see the tooltips, because they all look the same and click the one I want to use. it's literally the most shitty gui widget I've ever seen and it's not possible to restore the old one using about:config anymore.
I use waterfox. Perfect.
Use Chromium
>>53901052
same botnet without codecs and flash
im getting a lot of freezing and shit when i have big videos up in firefox but only for like the last 8months or year or some shit. what to do abt it?
>>53889358
> Firefox sucks more and more all the time
> lies
>>53887950
This is what happens when SJWs take over a company. The product takes a back seat to diversity and feelings
>>53901544
What is going on in the image?
Why is the perspective so fucked?
>>53887950
>They even made the search bar unusable and removed the option to bring back the old one.
CLASSIC
THEME
RESTORER
>>53888195
How do you manage it?
(Having less than 100 tabs open at a time, not the RAM use.)
Adderall? Ritalin? Focalin?
>>53901634
probably because it was made by some retarded deviantart autist
>>53897053
>Probably something to do with hardware acceleration
Wait, something as stupid as scrolling is done on the GPU?
>>53901665
>Classic Theme Restorer
Having to use an addon just to revert one aspect of the browser is a problem. For me and how I use Firefox all I'd like to do is get rid of that "new" search box which always drops down which I can't fucking stand but they removed the ability to disable it.
Now, is I could use CTR and just have it work on that one thing - the search box - that would be great, but I'd prefer just knowing how to revert it without an addon perhaps using the css config files.
>>53903019
>For me and how I use Firefox all I'd like to do is get rid of that "new" search box which always drops down which I can't fucking stand but they removed the ability to disable it.
If you're talking about the green (at least I think it was green?) thing that says "go to X" by default underneath where the URL would go, you can get rid of it in about:config.
can't remember the exact details because it took me so little time to fix and I was dealing with a bigger problem where I broke some stuff (my error) moving a profile.
>>53903081
>If you're talking about the green (at least I think it was green?) thing that says "go to X" by default underneath where the URL would go, you can get rid of it in about:config.
he's definitely talking about the box on the right from it, the one with a magnifying glass icon. the address bar isn't remotely that bad
>>53903081
I mean this search box.
>>53903304
what exactly's wrong with it (other than the possible removal of one-click-to-swap-between alternative search engines?)
on my end it's functioning as usual, but that could be CTR again.
>>53903304
It didn't exist on older versions of Firefox, and it could be disabled on ones prior to 44 entirely, now it can't so that's a problem for me (and probably others as well).
>>53903426
can't you just go into customize and drag it off the toolbar like any other component?
>>53903464
It doesn't work that way - I don't want to get rid of the normal search box which has been with Firefox since day one, I want to get rid of that drop-down bullshit additional box that has no business being there once I disable suggestions (of which there are now two different ways to disable because there's two ways they can be presented).
>>53901173
>not using a build with codec
>not knowing that PPAPI flash exists
top kek
>>53888195
>Saabbit
You should go back there.
get waterfox faggot
>>53888214
true on window. However on ubuntu 15.10 it's the fastest browser on my set up.
>>53898816
see >>53893770 3 settings must be changed
>>53895868
Christ. If you're gonna keep all those tabs open use tree-style tabs, unloadtab and tab groups.
>>53888084
>the Eternal Moore's Law meme
>resource hogging is OK because of hardware improvements
>implying it doesn't often increase faster than hardware improves
>implying people swap out their processor and memory every time something better appears
>implying software shouldn't be written well, to be efficient
8/10 little upset bro
>>53887950
meanwhile I'm just waiting for Firefox to get a built-in task manager and the ability to have the same UI as Chrome to move over
>putting aesthetics above other things
I have to look at the presentation of the browser a lot, I want it to fit my preferences, and I've grown to love Chrome's minimalist design in spite of myself
>>53891557
>It is ultimately the user's responsibility not install malicious extensions
this.
from the article: >The underlying weakness has been described as an extension reuse vulnerability because it allows an attacker-developed add-on to conceal its malicious behavior by invoking the capabilities of other add-ons.
it's a vulnerability that still needs the user to allow a malicious addon to be installed.
