>>53870459
garden hose
212 evo
>>53870459
None. It's not widely known but AMD chips can withstand higher temperatures than Intel, and don't generate enough heat to truly need a cooler.
>>53870559
Hmmm looks decent and pretty cheap on scan
I hope AMD sells the Wraith cooler as a separate product. I'd probably pick one up.
>>53870459
liquid nitrogen (AMD)
>>53870713
They won't. If you look on ebay/ craigslist i bet you can find one though. Still, anything else aftermarket will probably be a shitload better.
>>53870741
Apparently the Wraith competes well against many cheaper aftermarket coolers. The fact that it's also a downward facing fan means that you can get better overclocks on cheap chipsets because it gives good airflow over the VRM and northbridge/HT heatsinks.
>>53870559
assembly is shit, but it's nice once installed
>>53870559
>>53870595
Its super fucking tall, I have a fractal design 1000 and with the 212 evo installed its touching the side door and im unable to properly close the side panel
So make sure it'll fit, honestly Id chose a diff cooler next time around, maybe something like pic related just not with a low profile fan, unless it doesn't harm cooling performance too much
>>53870864
This. I regret not getting an NH-L12.
You can have it with the fan on top, or just the fan underneath the main radiator fins.
>>53870864
yeah just watched a youtube review on it and realized how tall it is
Thermaltake FRIO
>>53870914
>people dickride Noctua so much they'll preference their 80mm fans over another manufacturer's 120mm anti-vibration mounted fan
I use an NH-D15, it had good fans, probably the best on the market.
Doesn't mean they're fucking magic.
>>53871003
It comes with both 80mm and 120mm fans, and you can remove the 120mm if you're installing it in a teeny tiny case (eg, a 1U rackmount)
![35-856-007-09[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XAH91W6.jpg "35-856-007-09[1].jpg")
>>53870864
Plus look at the part that touches the cpu, completely flat, CM should take some design queues.
>>53871003
>>53871026
Sorry, the bottom one is a 92mm, not an 80mm.
>>53870963
Doesn't matter, it still fits in most cases. More height = more cooling area anyway
>>53871063
Doesn't fit in the NZXT Source 210 (at least on the AM3+ platform)
>>53871063
>>53870864
Yeah just checked out the measurements and it looks like it will just about fit in my case
>>53871026
Oh, so this thread is about AMD servers is it?
>>53870459
The 212 Evo is an excellent budget cooler OP.
It's 158.5mm tall, so make sure your case has 160mm of clearance just to be safe. The vast majority of popular cases will fit it, but check to make sure.
>>53871101
>AMD servers
No, I just like the cooler.
It's also great for tiny HTPC cases.
>>53871041
212 Evo - CPU heatspreader makes direct contact with heatpipes = faster heat transfer
Noctua - Heat has to go through aluminium plate before reaching heatpipes = slower heat transfer
>>53871063
yea clearly more fins = better cooling
Did you go out and collect the measurements of most cases? That must of taken quite a while.
>>53871119
Direct contact has a really negligible effect on cooling. If it was really that beneficial, you can bet Noctua would use it.
Instead, Noctua uses tiny grooves in the plate which have a similar effect to tread on car tyres. They force the thermal compund into, and along the grooves, which maximises physical contact with the heat spreader in the CPU package.
>>53871094
Good to hear but if you think it'll be close keep in mind there's still the mobo tray, mobo itself, and cpu socket that'll all add height a few mils of height from the mobo tray to the case door
>>53871142
Do you not understand basic physics? If everything else is the same, more fins = bigger surface area = faster heat transfer to surroundings.
And 212 Evo is pretty much the goto CPU cooler for people who don't want to use the stock, if it didn't fit pretty much every full size case then people wouldn't be buying it.
will an 212 EVO fit into a corsair SPEC 02?
if i understand it correctly the 212 EVO is 171mm tall, which is 6.75in
the SPEC 02 is 7.87 inches wide so that leaves only an inch for mobo + cpu + standoffs + atx plate + cover
i don't think it will fit tbhfam
>>53871119
and when you run your finger over the copper pipes its far from one smooth plane.
Sure the TIM fills in some of the gap, but its still not an ideal mating surface for heat transfer.
>>53871163
yeah i measured it a few mm away from the motherboard anyway so should be fine
>>53871156
Wouldn't that just cancel out though? If you mean that the grooves would take in the excess thermal compound so that other areas would make direct contact, then the areas making direct contact are going to be cancelled out by the areas that now contain a massive trench of thermal paste, so surely there wouldn't be any thermal benefit?
>>53871197
>SPEC 02
>7.87"
~190mm
>factor in backplane, standoffs, motherboard, socket, etc.
190mm - ~30mm
160mm
>212 Evo
160mm
It's could be a very close fit.
>>53870769
this, it's really fucking hard compared to everything else
>>53871201
That looks like the Evo+, not the Evo, where those gaps are a known issue and not present in the Evo.
>>53871177
Do you not understand basic English? I fucking agreed with you about the fins.
> if it didn't fit pretty much every full size case then people wouldn't be buying it.
you went from most cases to every full size case.
I like the 212, Had it in my last two builds, Now I no longer like it and am planning to use something different, I'm sorry you are upset about that but I used my current experience with its overall height to help another anon decide if it'll work for him,
>>53871216
No, on average it gives you a thinner thermal compound layer.
>>53871241
>>53870769
yeah not that bothered about the assembly if its a good cooler then w/e
>>53871231
well fuck. i either need a better case or a better heatsink
>>53871216
too much thermal compound turns it into an insulator.
>>53871270
Yeah, a bit more research says that it's 2mm too tall.
Apparently the 212x fits with 1mm of clearance.
>>53871253
Sorry, first part of your reply came off as sarcasm to me since the second part clearly was.
I assumed OP was using a full size case by the image in the OP, and hence I was referring to the cooler fitting is pretty much all full sized cases, as I assumed it was pretty obvious that there's no way a cooler of that size is going to fit in some Micro ATX case.
Best bang/buck: 212 evo
Best performance: NH-D15 or Dark Rock Pro 3
The 212 Evo probably won't work if you were dumb enough to buy a 9xxx CPU.
>>53871156
I would think the grooves are there to increase surface area, not about physical contact. Like an air filter like pic related.
>>53871242
Yea it is the older evo, though I do have the 212 evo and its contact surface it still not "perfectly" smooth, I am still happy with its performance.
Either way they clearly make a fantastic cooler, and every gen its improved upon a bit, I just want a different design
>>53871347
There's also plenty of mid tower cases that don't fit the 212 evo or NH-D15.
>>53871292
Yeah, that's what I mean. Instead of having the whole surface semi-insulator, you're turning it into a grid of no insulator, full insulator, no insulator and so on, which would just cancel out to give the same effect.
>>53871347
no prob I can see how it may have came off sarcastic as that's usually the default mode here.
>>53871358
you only need to increase surface area via grooves when you are dissipating the heat, not transferring it.
>>53871197
>corsair SPEC 02
CM Has a shorter version I think its the TX3 if you are dead set on that design
>>53871347
>>53871382
I have this case btw
Pretty crappy but does that job atm
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/cit-vantage-black-mid-tower-gaming-case-with-black-interior-3-led-fans-1xblack-fan-card-reader-no-ps
>>53871003
That mofo can it in a 1U? I want to make a 1U PC for giggles and mount it under my desk
>>53871393
If that's true, then there's no point in sintering the inside of a heatpipe.
I wish they made 240 high air coolers with potentially 4 120mm fans.
>>53871425
It depends on the chassis. You'd need to get one with really low standoffs.
>>53871432
Sintering isn't about increasing surface area for dissapation, it's for wicking the cooling through the pipe.
>>53871473
They could just wick the heat on a flat surface inside the pipe. Of course that'd be inefficient in transferring the heat.
>>53871407
i think i'll go with a corsair H60
i've never done any water cooling before though so this will be interesting
>>53871520
Enjoy your pump whir noises.
>>53871216
http://techreport.com/review/21873/life-in-the-lab-with-noctua-cpu-coolers
> The surface is flat, but it features an array of tiny grooves designed to encourage the uniform dispersion of high-viscosity thermal compounds.
>>53871520
AIO water coolers are fine, They don't necessarily cool MUCH better then the good Air coolers, but they're usually much quieter and take up much less space.
I had a Corsair AIO, I dont remember the exact model, H50 I believe, Wasnt impressed with it, temps were not as good as when the same rig was on air.
Now it could of been installed improperly, I mad have use too much TIM or had a faulty pump.
but I see them on plenty of rigs to know they are fine, just don't expect it to perform cooling miracles :)
>>53871535
>tiny grooves
>designed
Somebody probably complained that they didn't polish away the machining marks and so they said "it's a feature"
>>53871520
The only time you should ever go with AIO is when an air cooler won't fit your case or mobo, otherwise air is far superior.
>>53871779
No, I can tell from the machining on mine that they used a special bit to put the grooves on. It would be easier for them to polish the base than precisely machine the grooves that they have.l
>$50
>rapes cheap water cooling and keeps up with D15
>not a meme
Thermalright saves us again.
>>53871816
OK, neat. I couldn't find any picture that actually showed the details of the grooves
>>53870769
the assembly is a bit fiddly but not difficult.
balancing the mount while trying to get the first 2 screws in is a bit annoying but not so bad.
>>53872208
You can barely see them unless you get it in the right light, or magnification. They're quite distinct if you run a nail along them.
>>53871807
the SPEC 02 is pretty small so i think it's a good idea. i'll be cramming an asus r9 390 in there
>>53872416
I'm getting 4.4GHz on an [email protected] with an NH-D9L.
Max CPU temps are ~75'C, but the socket is hitting 90'C when running Prime95. It never hits those temperatures under real world heavy loads.
>>53872453
i'm wondering about airflow now... do you think the single 120mm fan at the front of the case will be enough fresh air to keep things cool? i could put another exhaust fan at the bottom of the case to remove the hot air off the gpu(R9 390)
>>53872955
grab some incense sticks and burn them by all the ways air can go in and out of the case to get an idea of airflow
>>53872979
that's a good idea
>They don't lap their heat sink and/or spreader
Literally no excuse.
>>53870459
Cryorig M9i, cheaper & cooler than meme cooler
>>53872955
Seems fine.
Just do this >>53872979 and make sure there's no hot spots. The heatsinks on the motherboard are designed to have airflow that would normally come from the stock cooler, and can overheat if they don't get it. That rad config should solve that issue.
>>53873003
why not bare die at that point?
>>53873048
You can't delid AMD CPU's because they use solder to bond the die to the heat spreader.
>>53872955
The gpu fans blow up not down, the psu fan is an intake and blows out the back of the psu, and heat rises
You want the front and bottom fans as intakes with filters over them, and the top and rear where where the radiator is to be exhaust
>>53872955
Why are the fans not blowing onto the GPU? Fans should be blowing onto GPU and if you want that bottom fan it should blow cold air into the case. To get hot air away from the GPU you could always have a panel exhaust but again blowing air onto gpu is always best.
![25-big-noctua-nh-l9i[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/E3RjYWK.jpg "25-big-noctua-nh-l9i[1].jpg")
>>53870914
>>53873352
This is not a good solution because it only gives airflow to one heatsink.
>>53870914
The NH-L12 is a much better solution.
>>53873352
slim AF
thanks for the pic
Deepcool Ice Wind Pro
>inb4 chink shit
Don't care, it was 15 bucks and it cools my FX-8320 just fine. A bit of a bitch to install it, but that's how Deepcool works.
For a less powerful CPUs/APUs I can recommend Deepcool Gamma Archer.
