Does anyone even use Firefox non-ironically?
Every time I've tried it, it becomes completely unresponsive while loading a web page for a few seconds, so you can't even browse another page while one is loading.
this is what happens when you hire coders based on their sex and political affiliation rather than who is the best for the job
>>53863147
works for me. i find chrome to be slow.
I build Chromium from source after removing everything Google related from it, even the default search engine, even before I build it.
Come home white man.
No, but I might try it out again once Servo stabilizes. Right now Firefox is just trying to be another rip-off of Chrome and co. I decided that if I'm going to use one of those, I might as well use a good one and swapped to Opera.
>>53863147
>browser.tabs.remote.autostart true
>dom.ipc.processCount 5
>profit
Yes, I agree it has taken a turn for the worst in regards to it's development but it still has the best addon selection available of any browser. I do still use chromium though it's about 50/50
>>53863194
>45.0.1
Holy shit they took off after 3.x
Ya, only because I'm too lazy to transfer my bookmarks. :/
>>53863268
nope didn't fix it.
Could it be uBlock Origin?
>>53863194
>>53863172
https://www.chromium.org/conduct
>This Code of Conduct is based on the Geek Feminism Code of Conduct
>>53863147
It's not Firefox. It's the rest of your OS. Fix it.
>>53863346
No. I use uBlock Origin on mine and it's still way more responsive than Chrome on both Windows 10 and Arch.
>>53863147
I use Firefox and no other browsers, and I have never met any problem with anything whatsoever.
People use other browsers unironically? Do these people also defecate in the streets?
>>53863147
Download
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RAM.
Firefox Nightly 64b. is probably the best browser I've ever used.
I'm not sure what you mean op. although I do hate Firefox, it excels at HTML video and i use adblocker to troll download sites.
>>53863199
Why not use Iridium? This is effectively what you described
>>53863410
He's right though. I gave your shitty Chrome a porn test,
and that piece of shit's Session Manager equivalent shits itself and has the browser hanging on me for 5 fucking minutes whenever it needs to apply over 50 tabs.
Firefox just loads them as placeholders and then you individually open them (unless you use the reload all function) to load them.
Chrome loads them all at the same time (and bricks up) despite the fact that it will leave them as blank tabs till you open them individually later.
Fucking retarded.
I have 32 GiB of RAM so atleast it's not being wasted.
>>53864168
poor gullible
>>53867665
you are a desensitized girlie
>>53867698
Go away Bernie cuck.
My custom build of Firefox 45 is the best browser I have touched so far
>>53867748
Share it senpai.
Picked up FF back during the 3.6 days, been using it ever since. It was a bit crashy. And them memory leaks. And CPU hogging.
I think I waited until 14 to update again, when 3.6 was becoming dysfunctional on a lot of sites. Ran that until 32, which I'm still on.
It crashes ~2 times a year and doesn't gobble my CPU or RAM. Maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones.
Don't like where it's going though, and it takes more and more to make it work the "old" way. Might hit up Chromium next time I need to update.
Nope. Though I have installed and have started using IceCat.
>>53867773
I will.
Just wait for the basic css ui 4.1 support to be finished
>>53867825
How long will this take?
>>53867665
what's the difference between that and waterfox?
so many goddamn firefox forks i swear
>>53867844
I'm working on it so soon.
>>53863147
Get the fuck out of here. Plug-ins are far superior. Open source. Not a Google botnet
>>53863199
When I try to build it myself videos only play audio ;_;
and it takes like 2 hours
>>53863147
How many threads are you shills going to make lmao
>>53867891
bitch firefox from source takes like 1hr max with tons of additions
>>53867860
CF is maintained and updated quicker than Waterfox, also more useful options in CF and I just like it overall compared to the other forks, I've tried them all and ended up staying with CF.
I use Firefox because it respects my freedom and privacy. It's the only purely FOSS browser that isn't shit.
>>53854444 worst get of all time
Ublock Origin or Adblock Plus?
Long time ago when I tested Ublock Origin it made browsing a hell, shit was slower than with ABP .. did things change?
>>53868039
Yes
>>53868039
Fuck off ABP shill.
>>53868056
Why would anyone shill something free for free?
You're retarded as fuck.
Just removed all ad-dons from Firefox and want to pick up better stuff if there are.
>>53867934
beautiful
Licensing aside, is there any real benefit of using IceCat over Firefox?
>>53867934
how u do dis senpai
>>53868217
User styles of course.
>>53867934
God how disgusting. Minimalism and flat themes are cancer.
>>53868257
>t. Jelly D Salty
>>53863147
Uhhh...I use it? Figured it was better than IE...
>>53868257
>m-my thems r betr than ur thems :^(
>>53863147
Install a version that supports multiprocess you dumbass. Of course single process version is going to be slow.
>>53868341
Incredibly retarded question, but with most modern systems having >= 2 cores, does mainline Firefox not support multiple cores?
>>53868372
not on windows
I do, I dont use a lot of addons and it isnt as bad as it was a year or two ago in terms of memory leaks. I dont notice a performance difference between firefox and chrome (totally anecdotal), and really dont mind chrome but just use firefox for nostalgia-sake I guess
>>53868384
Why not?
>>53868413
Because Mozilla focused on 'snappy' first. Stable version of Firefox will support multiple cores soon.
>>53868413
idk but it flies on debian 8 with a thinkpad x60s from 2005
>>53868143
Thank you -installed Ublock.
Should I bother to use NoScript?
Or Ghostery or any third party shit blocker like Disconnect ?
>>53868450
I find that with some ublock settings you don't need a blocker
>>53868450
You don't seem smart so in this case I wouldn't suggest uMatrix to you over NoScript.
You don't need Ghostery, Disconnect since uBlock does that itself assuming you have the right filters enabled like in my pic. >>53868143 (See the Disconnect filter).
>>53868496
How does lack of knowledge in plugins make me less intelligent?
Even the 4chan wiki suggest them together, so you imply you're the ultimate voice of reason on this website?
>>53863147
>>53868540
If it's that easy for someone to hit a nerve then you need to leave.
I only have uBlock Origin installed and I never have more than 10 tabs open, so Firefox is quick for me.
If I need to use a certain plugin, I'll install it, use it and then remove it.
Firefox is the best.
>>53868540
because
ghostery is BOTNET
using '"addons'" that modify the same settings is useless or even bad for your shitty surfing
>>53869960
>ghostery is BOTNET
http://niceme.me
>>53863346
disable that ublock shit and turn on the built-in tracking protection. it's all you need.
>>53869996
BOTNET
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>>53868399
I'd do the same for VLC but it's just too shitty. Firefox shit it up with their lame-ass menu.
>>53869909
Cute.
>>53868413
they've been working on it for like 4 years. just starting to roll out now.
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis
>>53870062
That page (as most of mozilla) is bullshit.
There was an old beta around.
Did anyone notice a slight delay in mouse scrolling in Firefox?
In Chrome it goes much smoother.
I was a diehard Firefox user until Australis and they went full SJW retard. It's so sad seeing a once-great browser become a steaming pile of shit esp. with Hello and Pocket integration. Before that every release became a game of "ok what did they fuck with this time and where's the about:config option to change it back".
I'm on Chrome now but I'm not happy with the current state of web browsers. I want XUL extensibility with webkit. Every browser out there is shit.
>>53867325
Yeah, because everyone needs 50 tabs open at once.
Not that I'm advocating Chrome. I'm not. I'm just saying that your example is stupid.
I've been using Firefox exclusively for roughly 10 years and don't really have complains.
When Chrome came out I tried it but didn't like it. I also try to use open source whenever possible
>>53863147
I understand your pain. I found that the Adobe Flash plugin caused MAJORITY of my headaches.
My solution for you is to set the Flash plug-in to ask you when you want to enable it. When I did this, my browsing experience got significantly better, because bullshit advertisements don't load while I'm doing general browsing with multiple tabs.
>>53870658
>My solution for you is to set the Flash plug-in to ask you when you want to enable it.
Same, but some faggot webdevs disable the flash object with javascript, saying you need flash to use flash (no fucking shit, retard), so your browser doesn't detect that flash is there so you can't whitelist it.
>>53867934
mind sharing the css, m80? :^)
e10s release never
>>53869909
How do you get this easy captcha?
>>53871025
>using the smiley with a carat nose
>>53870658
>>53870976
is this bait?
am I taking the bait?
Official builds are restrictive memory hogs. Try the pcx or Tete builds instead. The latter combined with tbind is probably the best.
>>53871093
why aren't you using nightly?
>>53863147
i use firefox cuz its better than everything else out right now... unfortunately...
im really starting to hate it cuz its been eating more RAM than fucking chrome does.
I have 4gigs and run awesomewm but lately my swap has been filling up because of fucking firefox... i just want a simple browser with some good privacy extensions... why is that so hard to fucking provide
>>53863147
>furrycocks
yeah, furfags. they literally love the browser.
Afford a better computer you fucking pleb
Single thread for DNS lookups...
>>53867934
Really? I've found that Aurora is the best version of Firefox. Better performance than any of the forks, better stability than the "stable" branch.
>>53872053
Because it's unstable. Developer Edition gets all the features without any of the instability.
>>53872664
This, it is quite amusing when I have never experienced a single crash in aurora but had it crashed a few times when I was using stable.
>>53872742
The only time I had any issues with Aurora was when I fucked up the building process from AUR, and it's hardly Mozilla's fault that I can't into Arch.
>>53863147
Use it to test for XSS since disabling xss auditor on chrome is a pain.
>>53872772
Just be a normal person and use the binary, fucking AUR doesn't support other languages.
>>53863147
yes, because it's the best out of a group of shit-tier browsers
there is no such thing as a good browser anymore
>>53872053
I use nightly but there are a lot of addons that have issues. DTA I have to use the nightly, LastPass didn't work for a while, Https Everywhere's Observatory makes javascript fucking crawl for some reason
>>53872813
No. I'm an EOP so I have no need for other languages.
What choice do I have? They're all shit.
>>53872943
I thought you just wanted e10s in general. Didn't realize you meant when e10s compatible with all addons.
Hopefully soon enough.
>>53873277
oh yeah it has to be compatible. Addons are the whole reason for using Firefox, gotta get those mods
>>53872943
I doubt if DTA will get a new release ever.
>>53873597
literally the best firefox addon
>>53863147
I do on Linux, I prefer the fact that is uses the systems font rendering and not its own. Makes everything more consistent.
>>53873597
I think so, it's active on the nightly. Might get abandoned when FF drops XUL though
I use Firefox every day for work. Shit's great.
>>53863268
>profit
cheers, 4chan with 4chanx now loads much faster.
>>53863268
What's this suppose to do?
>>53873851
browser.tabs.remote.autostart seems to be something for starting electrolysis (Firefox's multi process)
dom.ipc.processCount sets the number of processes to use. Default is 1. Bumping it higher will separate the tabs into different processes, preventing 1 tab with shittons of javascript from bogging down another tab
What is a good "naked" web browser for parents to use?
I want a browser that is good enough for the parents to use (on windows) without installing ad/script blocking addons. I used to have them on Opera. Now I don't know what will be good enough. I am contemplating setting them up with Chrome. Or maybe I'll just have them use IE (it has gotten better since WinXP right?).
I use gahnoo/linux but I don't want to switch them. It would be too much work.
What do you folks recommend to your parents?
Yeah I do.
Love ff.
>>53873979
You NEED to get them ad blocking. All hell will be downloaded onto that computer otherwise. I'd give them Chrome and uBlock Origin
>>53863268
Fucking hell, this improves multitab FF at least a little.
>>53873979
I put my parents on Chrome with HTTPS Everywhere and a properly configured uBlock Origin then I hide the icons and they never even know how much better their experience is than most computer illiterates.
>>53873979
I just installed ublock origin on their debian machine. It's in the repos. They use iceweasel beta.
>>53874017
>You NEED to get them ad blocking. All hell will be downloaded onto that computer otherwise. I'd give them Chrome and uBlock Origin
>>53874128
>I put my parents on Chrome with HTTPS Everywhere and a properly configured uBlock Origin
Using some type of adblocking software will eventually trigger some anti-ad-blocking message. This is the main reason for not installing any addons for them.
Although, HTTPS Everywhere would work as it can be set to allow non-https (I think that is the default).
Chrome sounds like a winner for Mom and Dad.
>>53873979
Lynx
>>53868134
They removed some questionable functions, like most Chromium forks do to google code. They also claim to implement some kind of browser fingerprinting protection, but it's probably really basic. Also, they are more likely to continue supporting unsigned extensions while using the most recent code as long as possible, so if you use some old or jankular extensions alongside shiny new web 2.0 shit, it's the least likely to break.
>>53863346
It's not, sounds to me like you've got https everywhere with SSL observatory enabled. If you do, disable SSL observatory.
I do.
It's the least shitty non-meme browser at the moment. Used Chrome for years but it's so slow nowadays
Firefox general?
Does anyone know why having Hardware Acceleration enabled causes everything to flicker when Firefox reaches ~1100 MB? It pisses me the fuck off but I despise Chrome even more
I have no problems with it. For me chrome is more unresponsive.
tfw ESR.
I'm the only person in the team developing websites with Firefox. The rest are using Chrome.
>>53863147
I switched to Vivaldi about 6 months ago and I couldn't be happier. Side-tabs (not as robust as tree-style tabs but it works) and a modern browsing experience. I even use it on my work machine now.
>>53876082
What's ESR?
>>53870532
>b-but anon, bookmarking is hard
>unrelated owls
>>53876154
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/
Extended Support Release, think Ubuntu's LTS.
>>53863147
Try browsing on a Window's computer that isn't shit
>>53876082
Et tu, brother?
I'm on ESR too. The normal channel updates way too often, breaking stuff.
>>53876304
Personally, my internet is pretty third world, so updating every now and then is a pain. The stability of ESR comes as a bonus.
But I too believe its all just placebo. Its death is just a matter of time.
>>53863147
>Does anyone even use Firefox non-ironically?
The entire desktop thread.
i do, on windows botnet 10
>>53863147
Best Firefox. Ran into problems with the new Nvidishit driver but now I don't have crashes anymore (Installed the old one again).
It loads my 20+ tabs fine in 500 MB (16 GB).
I use Seamonkey unironically. So basically Firefox with internet suite functions, a classic interface, 32-bit with no multi-process that happens to be slightly lighter on RAM usage.
Iceweasel non-ironically. It does lack a lot of features that I enjoy in chrome but it's also not as big memory hog as chrome.
>>53870048
Thanks.
>>53871938
4chan X.
Use chromium from f droid
>>53870532
>Yeah, because everyone needs 50 tabs open at once.
Not him, but I've used over 600 tabs before. I generally have over 100 open. Why should I use a shitty botnet browser that can't support more than 10 tabs smoothly? Also that scrunched up tab bar.
>>53873979
Firefox with uBlock Origin, of course.
>>53874875
Underrated post
>>53863199
Shit can you put the source online somewhere? I bet you're long gone, but this would be so much better than using cuckfox.
>>53863147
I'm willing to estimate your problem is PEBKAC, fortunately there is a fix.
Open up notepad and type:shutdown /s
save it as "firefix.bat" and double click it.
Firefox will no longer become unresponsive while loading pages.
I use chrome. I don't care about the botnet since 4chan already is one with Captcha and memory usage is not a issue since 16GB of ram is cheap a fuck.
>>53870306
they broke it intentionally so they can introduce this improvement
https://hacks.mozilla.org/2016/02/smoother-scrolling-in-firefox-46-with-apz/
>>53877729
are you aware that Chromium is open source?
https://chromium.googlesource.com/
>>53877644
>botnet browser
Sorry, I don't talk to fully grown men in tin foil hats.
>>53878038
Obviously he means the modified source with shit removed
>>53877755
>lol shutdown your computer!!
this kind of roundabout insult is the cringest type of shit
even straight up calling him a retard is better
>>53863147
Yeah, it works great on my PC and it still works on some of my XP shitboxes unlike Chrome.
>>53873979
If possible install a Linux distro for them (something easy like Xubuntu, Mint or Debian) and install Firefox/Chromium on it with uBlock Origin. No calls or problems in last 5-6 years from my parents. I occasionally ssh into their box to update it and do simple shit likebleachbit --clean chromium.cache.
>>53870532
Tab groups and the fact that reopening browser doesn't reload will make you abandon bookmarks and just store everything in an tab group. So you got a growing number of tabs.
>>53878609
>If possible install a Linux distro
No.
I don't know how I could survive without a linux distro. But I'm not switching the parents over to it.
>install Firefox/Chromium on it with uBlock Origin.
Web browsers are fine. But as I said earlier, I'm not going to install any add-ons that will generate a "Oh I see you are using an Ad-Blocker" message. While it is a trivial problem to solve...it is a "problem" that requires intervention (by me).
>>53877684
>Firefox with uBlock Origin, of course.
See above.
>>53878718
Then I can't help ya anon. Try at least FlashBlock on Chromium to block flash ads. May I ask what are your parents browsing that can bypass Anti-Adblock Killer | Reek list?
Works on my machine.
>>53878677
So use bookmarks?
That sounds retarded. What's wrong with just bookmarking pages in a folder and returning to it?
>>53878887
Because tab group is easier and arguably faster for human control?
>>53878887
Bookmarking 3 or more things, opening them all in the main tab group, then re-bookmarking them to save their state when you're done.
It's exactly like opening your browser to your previous tabs. What's wrong with bookmarking it and returning to it? If you do it a lot it's a pain in the ass and you have to keep the bookmarks updated every time before you close.
>>53878794
>May I ask what are your parents browsing that can bypass Anti-Adblock Killer | Reek list?
It isn't an issue of what can't it block (in terms of ad-block detectors). The issue is that ad-block detectors are always evolving. Anyone who visits "typical" websites will see these messages. Of course the folks working on ad-blocker will also be constantly developing countermeasures. But there is always going to be that "downtime" where a certain site displays a message. I want to limit messages to a minimum (the ones that I have control over).
If I was living with them, or lived close by it would be a different story.
>Then I can't help ya anon.
I appreciate the input.
>>53878887
>What's wrong with just bookmarking pages in a folder and returning to it?
"Poweruser" autists need to have a ludicrous number of tabs open at the same time or they don't feel like they are being productive. Using bookmarks would make more sense but it doesn't look as cool as having 100 tabs open.
>>53878947
Well, if you leave the ads there, it won't be very long until you have to repair stuffs, given that ransomware is so common nowadays.
>>53879022
interesting hypothesis
>>53874875
fuck that was it
>>53879022
if bookmarks make more sense then your use case is wrong
>>53870062
I am dumb.
How much will this improve the performance? It sounds like a pretty big deal.
>>53863147
>Every time I've tried it, it becomes completely unresponsive while loading a web page for a few seconds
Go into your about:config and set rendering time to 0, increase number of simultaneous connections and set tabs to be multiprocess. A lot of the slowness in firefox is self-imposed.
>>53879381
Performance is noticeably better but still not as good as Chrome so far. And it beaks addons left and right
>>53863147
I'm sure all the beta orbiters of the regressive left use it unironically
i use nightly, i love it. faster than regular ff, light on my mem and comfy
>>53867860
Waterfox is 64-bit
>>53879416
How though. Please spoonfeed
>>53863147
You're right OP its unnecessarily laggy and memory hungry.
I still use it because Im used to it, I configured it a lot, I like my addons.
I could probably move to something else but it is not worth the hassle at the moment.
>>53863147
>defaults to single process
>doesn't clear memory of closed tabs - you can have 1 empty tab and the process is hogging multiple gb of ram
>by default it doesn't automatically add numerals to duplicate filename saves
I don't know if it's just that I have a gimped version or what but fuck all that shit.
>>53878910
5 seconds faster, with potential errors.
>>53878931
Oh dear, it must be so much effort to press the bookmark button once at the end of a session.
>>53879022
I'm beginning to believe that that is the case.
>>53880489
>>>doesn't clear memory of closed tabs - you can have 1 empty tab and the process is hogging multiple gb of ram
Holy shit this, is there a way to change this?
>>53880489
Yeah this definitely happens. There have to be some significant memory leaks. Its very annoying, I need to restart firefox more often than I should.
Main problems are imo: loading of some tabs strongly affecting performance of other tabs (try reloading youtube page and scrolling in a different tab at the same time), and whats said above.
>>53880613
Never seen one, and even if there is an error that crashed the firefox, it got a builtin session restore.
Btw, 5 seconds faster is 5 seconds faster, when the potential error is minimal (which is as safe as bookmarks, since both of them are just files in your firefox profile folder), it will be worthy.
>>53863147
Yup. Feels good senpai
>>53881123
>obsessing over a miniscule aspect of functionality for 5 extra seconds of saved time is worth it
Whatever floats your boat.
>>53879022
talking about bookmarks
I've stuck with Firefox since before Chrome came out with relatively few issues. Chrome is a bloated piece of shit.
>>53867678
>Drumpf
Back to plebbit. Besides, his grandfather's name was TRUMPF, as per his signature on multiple documents.
>>53880489
it does this but I still love firefox and use it as main browser.
>>53867891
last time I tried to build it myself it took 14 hours
never again
>>53882518
Drumpf Canard Donald Trump's ancestors changed their surname from "Drumpf" to "Trump," but the exact timing of that change wasn't clear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Donald_J_Drumpf
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Donald_J_Drumpf
DRUMPF
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>>53877644
in your case it is actually Firefox that can't handle 100 tabs properly
if you don't need a tab to be loaded then you don't need it to be open at all
>>53880916
>Holy shit this, is there a way to change this?
Yeah, use Aurora. Multiprocess by default and it handles memory better. I disabled my disk cache entirely and I still never exceed 2GB of RAM used.
