>tfw i fell for the Oculus Rift meme
Why didn't you get a Hive? :)
Oculus is a shitty Facebook botnet with no 360. HTC vive masterrace
>>53840412
Htc vive is also trash, trash vs trash
>>53840412
>no 360
But it does have 360. It just doesn't have roomscale.
>>53840332
So that image seems to suggest that the problem is tight pressure on the head, and eyestrain? But those are pretty much non-issues. Not sure what OP is trying to say
>>53840511
>tight pressure and eyestrain are non-issues in a product that's essentially a screen glued to your head
retard
>>53840607
But it's not essentially a screen glued to your head. You sound like the retard when you claim stuff like that
Fuck that shit, I'm waiting for the hololens.
>>53840626
retard
Tell me about Wojak. Why does he wear the mask?
>>53840641
I rest my case
>>53840332
you must be a special kind of imbecile to stare at two tiny monitors infront of your eyes and call it a virtual reality, also say bye-bye to your eyesight.
>>53840655
p.s.: *they* done scamming with 3d glasses? and all that 3dTV bullcrap? topkek.
>>53840671
>>53840332
how the fuck do you get eye strain with the CV1?
not even the DK1 caused it to me after playing for an hour or two consecutively
also source on the tight pressure issue?
>>53840607
Also a screen that uses pwm.
>>53840511
DK2 tester here
head pressure is a total non-issue.
If you're not a complete vegetable, you can figure out how to tighten it so that it stays in place and doesn't hurt.
Eyestrain is a real issue, but it depends on what you're looking at. If you're staring at a bright image, it's no problem to go at it for a few hours, but if you're staring at a dark image, for example the new Godzilla movie, you'll feel your retinas burning within 10-20 minutes.
>>53841046
shouldn't the retina problem happen in the reverse order?
when I look st my monitor in the highest brightest setting it does cause eye strain
>>53841106
When you watch your chink toons they'll always put a message at the beginning of the episode "please watch in a well lit room"
same reason same logic
Anyone who dives head-first into new tech, expecting anything good, is probably a naive teenager.
Wait for the 2nd generation at least you stupid cucks.
>>53841121
ah sorry, I thought you said that bright pictures were not an issue, it's very late at night, gotta rest
>>53841137
But it is actually good though
>>53841137
Yeah, I bet teenagers are buying all those Tesla cars, retard.
>>53841244
what tesla cars?
>>53840655
this
This thread was brought to you by /v/.
Enjoy your stay while it lasts.
>>53840453
>But it does have 360
not with touch :^) only 270 degrees max according to developers
>>53841323
faggot
Which one is best for watching 3d porn? Don't care about the rest.
>>53841291
>>53841121
>>53840655
Eyes have muscles. If you look at same distance for a long time your eyes will feel sore.
With these VR hmds due to optics, you're in fact looking at screens at great distance. With vive your eyes are fixed to infinity, don't know how's with rift because its a piece of shit.
In any case, you should take breaks every once in a while should you be working with monitors or with hmd. I like to keep my workstation next to a window so I can look outside every now and then. My eyesight is tested every year and I've sat in front of a screens my whole life. My eyesight been pretty much the same for ten years now.
>>53840639
>wanting the botnet on your face
BUUUT ma waifu....
>>53840655
>>53841291
Am I being memed upon? Did you seriously believe your parents when they said that looking at monitors close up is bad for your eyes?
>October comes
>PSVR releases
>revealed to have full PC compatibility
>Lower resolution screen, but $200-400 cheaper
If Sony could somehow pull that off, they'd fucking wreck Rift and Vive.
>>53843295
>Am I being memed upon? Did you seriously believe your parents when they said that looking at monitors close up is bad for your eyes?
It's not the distance that matters, it's the focusing strength.
The more your eyes have to focus, the harder it strains them. That's why it's physically painful to look at very close things while trying to keep them in focus. Focusing on close things over longer periods of time deteriorates the muscles in your eyes.
The Oculus Rift and other HMDs have a very distant focal plane. (I think the Vive focuses at infinity, not sure about the Rift but it might either be a few meters or also infinity)
Ergo using a HMD is actually healthier for your eyes than using a standard display.
>>53843359
Deterioration in these muscles is also why old people begin to have trouble reading and need reading glasses. The muscles have deteriorated so much that your eyes can physically no longer focus on things that close.
>>53843312
>inferior tracking
>inferior resolution
>inferior FoV
>no camera
>Sony
There's a reason it's $200-$400 cheaper.
>>53843384
Sony actually has experience making hardware, unlike Valve or Facebook.
>>53843284
where can I buy the masturbator thing in the top middle ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHT_qB9AfJw
>>53843393
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCgnWqoP4MM
>>53843393
>Valve
You mean HTC
You mean Oculus
>Sony actually has experience making hardware
Their golden age is over. These days, their consumer products are just normie bullshit with >muh space age look, >muh LEDs, >muh saving corners
I don't buy a PlayStation either, because it's absolutely trash for what it's supposed to provide: Video games.
The PSVR won't be any different. It's targeted towards people dumb enough to play a PlayStation.
>>53843460
>not soldered by qt3.14 girls in a chinese suicide sweatshop
But anon, how can I enjoy my consumer products like that?
>>53843406
That's a Novint Falcon + Tenga something
>>53843460
>>53843460
>Aperture
Fucking hell, I'd love to work there.
>>53840332
>tfw pre-ordered both and will get them in April
>>53843460
>0:14
>Arpeture
FUCKING KEKKED
I was fucking waiting for a reference.
>>53843548
thanks
>>53840332
>cuck
10/10 pic OP
>he fell for the VR meme
>he kickstarted occulus
>he literally paid zuckcuck
>buying VR goggles
>in 1997+19
Looks like the newest scam of the decade is working out just as planned
>>53843612
>>53843662
>>53843707
tfw I will have fun with both Rift and Vive with my 980Ti while you guys are stuck in the past.
>>53841244
>comparing cars to VR headsets
You are a fucking moron.
Buying a VR headset is more akin to buying a Tesla in a town that has no charging stations.
What are you gonna do with your new VR headset? Play around with the 2 gimmicks that have been released and drop it, most likely.
There just aren't enough things to do with them to warrant the price they ask.
LMAO NO GAMES/APPS/WAIFUS
>>53840332
>tfw you hyped the oculus rift meme so people would fall for it
>>53845086
this so much, I'll bite on the VR meme once there is some real software out there and not some facebook shit tier gimmick trash. Also the next gen of headsets will probably be leagues better.
>>53843905
why keep the Rift if you got a Vive?
>>53843570
April fools.
>>53843312
why not get the gear vr? it is like 100 bucks
>>53845134
I bet you even told them that Suckerberg would give them virtual waifus
>>53845361
It's like $1000 because you need the Sameshit phone that no self-respecting person would keep in their pocket.
>>53845361
I hear it's a mediocre gimmick.
Might as well just get a google cardboard
>>53845312
Bought the Rift for sit-down experiences because it got a better solution on how to display the content with the use of better optics etc... (The FOV difference seems to be so small it wont be as noticable as people think according to all the sites that has tested both. Check vrnreds.de and flyinside studios).
Rift got better ergonomics, integrated sound fabric cover to let your face breath while having it on.
Bought the Vive to give the the roomscale and controllers from the start.
Will most likely be keeping the Rift at the end of the year because of the touch controllers since it doesnt seem like the Vive will be any better when the Rift gets Touch.
Also, Vive doesnt have VorpX yet, but it will most likely get it soon as the developer gets it.
>>53845488
*integrated sound AND a fabric cover...*
Writing on phone sucks
>>53845488
About 26%, but the Vive also has 3x more brightness. I guess Oculus tried to mitigate the black smear and light flare issues but IDK.
>>53845517
Initially I was only trusting the pictures Doc_OK gave us, but everyone that got both says it's not as noticable as the SDE on the Vive.
>>53845488
>integrated sound fabric cover to let your face breath while having it on.
>sound fabric cover
wat, also I wish, it has a plastic shell on the inside which I would have preferred to fabric that gets dirty.
>>53845537
SDE is the least worst issue right now.
>>53845537
Yeah it was p. funny.
>>53845554
You did not read my correction: >>53845506
There are more positive sides on using a fabric cover than something that's airtight like plastic.
The fabric cover makes it lighter, lets your face breathe, fog on the lenses because of high temperature from the display etc...
If you use some water and some microfiber cloth it's actually quite easy to clean it.
>>53845589
It literally still has plastic on the inside, there is no weight saving. Lycra for the IPD adjustment was neat, though. However, it seems like for the outside they just wanted something that lets IR through, which you can do with plastic as well.
>>53843460
That's pretty advanced shit right there, even the qc is automated.
>>53845589
What breathing?
>>53845611
With the fabric they where able to use much less plastic.
Rift is at 470g with integrated sound, Vive is at 555g without sound.
The rift is a lot less front heavy which lets it rest on your face more easy for longer sessions (this is extremely important).
>>53845662
>no eye relief adjustment
>lower FOV
Okay.
>>53845662
The Rift CV1 is 6.6% heavier than the DK2 (470g vs 441g) 18% lighter than the Vive (470g vs 555g). Nowhere near as much of a difference as people made it sound like.
>>53845674
The eye relief in the Vive is nothing.
The distance pre-set on the Rift is the best distance for that optic and display. The IPD is the only important adjustment inside the headset itself.
The lower FoW is so miniscule its nothing like everyone that uses both are saying. The comparisson pictures people are throwing around doesnt mean shit.
>>53845703
Nope, but you'll have to add on to the Vive the weight of something that delivers as good sound as the ones integrated on the rift.
>>53840332
lul@u.
>>53845718
>smaller percentage weight difference is important
>larger percentage FOV difference is not
Okay.
>>53845718
>The distance pre-set on the Rift is the best distance for that optic and display. The IPD is the only important adjustment inside the headset itself.
Unless you wear glasses and Oculus decides to not ship the extra facial interface like they said they would.
But I guess wearing glasses is like wearing actually good headphones and you don't have to do it?
>>53845488
>>53845589
>>53845662
>posting facebook pictures
50 schmeckles was deposited into your account, Rick.
>>53845737
You forget to take into calculation that Rift has lower weight and lower SDE while the Vive has at least 200g more weight with headset and a more noticable SDE.
The only reason to use Vive is to get roomscale.
The Rift will dominate when the Touch arrives and hopefully Oculus will add more cameras to give it a bigger roomscale capability.
>PS, I know you are baiting, but I'll have fun with both headsets.
>>53845785
>oculus will dominate
>multiple SKUs and fragmentation
Neat
>>53845803
Well hopefully Oculus go with Lighthouse and drop the cameras if it seems like a problem with the current solution.
Time will tell.
>yfw years of hype built up for a product that was unique and innovative for the past 4 years only to cuck itself and be BTFO by Samsung in about a year.
Where were you when the VIVE took over the industry?
>>53845840
>people pay 600+ for 2 small screens to sync and some ir blasters
>>53841244
>the tesla model s is the first electric car ever
tesla is the perfect example of 2nd generation polished tech you retard
the first tesla roadster was trash, then they perfected it with the revision that you know today
>>53845872
Stop being a sensible consumer and buy it goy.
>>53845488
>Bought the Rift for sit-down experiences because it got a better solution on how to display the content with the use of better optics etc... (The FOV difference seems to be so small it wont be as noticable as people think according to all the sites that has tested both. Check vrnreds.de and flyinside studios).
Vive can do sit down stuff as well. Optics are equal according to n^x+1 media reports. Well rift's optics are shittier as you have to manually slide your rift up and down on your face to get clear picture, vive has a dial to move the screens. Rift has smaller fov and it hurts oculus' people as they have not said anything about the fov in a long time. Nate told tested some time ago that cv1 will have bigger fov than dk2, but now all are tighlipped about it as they don't want to lie.
>Rift got better ergonomics, integrated sound fabric cover to let your face breath while having it on.
Ergonomics, integrated sound, if they are important to you. Both are way better than dk2 and I had no problems with it whatsoever.
Under the fabric is normal plastic shell. Fabric is just a gimmick. There are multiple reports that rift cv1 feels hot, so "breathability" is a moot pro.
>Will most likely be keeping the Rift at the end of the year because of the touch controllers since it doesnt seem like the Vive will be any better when the Rift gets Touch.
We'll see, can't say yet. But by the looks of it, oculus home doesn't appear to have anything but exclusives going for it. All sales are final, no user reviews, no interplayability with steam titles with project cars, no friend chat, no easy way to join friends games.. oh yeah and reporting to facebook every 30 secs, too. Nice.
>Also, Vive doesnt have VorpX yet, but it will most likely get it soon as the developer gets it.
Ralph has ordered vive and said that it'll be high priority.
>>53843554
what would you work with in a 100% automated robotic factory?
>>53845885
>buy this car goy who cares is there is no infrastructure like streets,highways,or traffic rules!
>>53845785
>>53845832
>>53845725
>>53845718
>>53845662
>>53845589
Found heaney. Out of palmer gifs?
>>53845899
Nothing, and it would be everything I ever dreamed of.
>>53843460
Automation is so fucking cool.
>>53845891
I wont be using Oculus Home. I'm not buying the Rift for the exclusives.
I bought the Rift since it has less SDE, ATW (I know Steam has an equivalent for longer periods of screen-delay), better ergonomics and reportivly better controllers (still Beta, I know).
I think most of my time will be with the Vive purely because I love roomscale and having controllers at launch, but that's pretty much it.
>>53845354
Ha, my image from yesterday!
>>53845891
So this is true? It has to report to FB or have like some sort of software of FB installed on your PC? Can't get the Vive where I live and I don't use FB at all...don't like it.
>>53846046
Yeah oculus home pings every 30 secs facebook's servers "looking for updates". Even though it might not send (how would you know) nothing else as of now, they have right to send everything on your harddrive to zuckerberg. Check
https://www.oculus.com/en-us/legal/privacy-policy/
> Information about your interactions with our Services, like information about the games, content, apps or other experiences you interact with, and information collected in or through cookies, local storage, pixels, and similar technologies
Nice.
>>53846089
Oh yeah and I forgot to mention that you can't shut it down. It runs as a service even if you close it. All the time. Pinging every 30 secs to fb.
>>53846089
lol facebook
>>53846129
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>>53846269
Yeah I'm a netsec goy and do sysadmin stuff for work. It's trivial. But unnecessary and that part frustrates me. That thing should not contact Mark two times every minute. Their privacy policy should not include me allowing them to have full access to my files. You see?
I went with the vive instead. At least steam can be shut down completely and my data is anonymized on steam (check privacy policy).
>>53846089
>wincuck 10 beta: botnet
>oculus botnet
>mfw this is the future
>>53845954
>>53845627
>>53843460
I'd love to see how much is automated for the Vive.
Did anyone ever find out who they contracted to make the Steam Controller? Did they? From that video it almost seems like they did it in house.
>>53846532
>Did anyone ever find out who they contracted to make the Steam Controller? Did they? From that video it almost seems like they did it in house.
They did it theirself.
HTC on the other hand manufactures the vive so it'll be made by small taiwanese sweatshop children
>>53843460
They need more videos like this. It almost makes me want to buy a Steam controller... almost.
>>53846585
I know EXACTLY how you feel.
Watching the video really made me want to buy a steam controller; but then I remembered that I really have absolutely zero need for one because I've got an old X360 controller for those times I rarely do want to use one (mostly back when I used to play GTAV and wanted to fly. Was a lot more natural feeling.) and even then, there's just no reason to have a controller because I won't be using my 720p slightly damaged TV for PC use anyway.
But god damn, did I want one.
>>53846567
>They did it theirself.
Wrong. They outsourced it to Flextronics.
>>53846733
Ok. Their own info page for steam controller news says
http://store.steampowered.com/controller/update/dec15
> When we first started designing hardware at Valve, we decided we wanted to try and do the manufacturing as well. To achieve our goal of a flexible controller, we felt it was important to have a similar amount of flexibility in our manufacturing process, and that meant looking into automated assembly lines. It turns out that most consumer hardware of this kind still has humans involved in stages throughout manufacturing, but we kind of went overboard, and built one of the largest fully automated assembly lines in the US.
Could you link your source for Flextronics? I didn't find it quickly on googol
>>53846797
Not him but you can see the Flextronics logo on the top of the warehouse in the video. Apparently it's owned by them. Not sure how involved Valve was in the process but they probably got help. Flextronics also makes the Xbox One so it would make sense.
>>53846844
Yeah I saw that but I thought that maybe line manufacturing robots etc came from flextronics, maybe on a lease or something.
Not that I care that much in the end. It's a cool video nevertheless. I hope they'll make more eventually.
>>53846927
One of the machines is made by this company. You can see the logo at 0:47
http://www.doerfer.com/
Not sure how much of the line up they did though.
>>53846927
It's literally Flextronics' factory in Illinois.
>>53843470
>Their golden age is over. These days, their consumer products are just normie bullshit with >muh space age look, >muh LEDs, >muh saving corners
>le "THEY DON'T MAKE THEM LIKE THEY USED TO XDDDD" meme
neck yourself
>>53843359
the same way curling a heavy box deteriorates the muscles in your biceps right
ultimate momscience. eyes deteriorate from lack of sunlight, nothing else
>>53843460
this is the coolest shit i have seen in a while
Is John Carmack cursed?
>>53847946
the VR curse
>>53841121
The reason they have those messages is because of the Pokemon epilepsy incident from many years ago
>>53848017
His hands were shaking like fucking crazy on that latest unboxing.
>>53845354
heh, interesting mine was almost £1 cheaper
Who day 1 getting it monday here?
>>53848300
tfw still no tracking number
>>53848300
>AmEx
Look at this peasant
Will Oculus porn work with Vive porn?
>>53848300
Thanks for beta-testing it for me!
>>53848300
retards
>>53843460
I always wondered how these machines can be so precise even under such huge workloads.
Also how do people even design and assemble all this? Modern technology is incredible if I think about it.
>>53848455
Why does she keep ruining her face with more piercings?
>>53840607
Better never wear glasses, then. Don't worry, VR contacts are in the works.
>email Oculus to cancel my order
>they respond telling me to be patient and that my order will ship soon
>email them again requesting to cancel
>no response for a week
Looks like I'm getting a Rift.
>>53850676
sell that shit on ebay for 2x the cost bro
>>53850378
Doing mechatronics, it's not as hard as it looks. Just takes time and a LOT of upfront money
The next generation is basically cheap robot arms that are general purpose instead of specialized.
>>53841121
I haven't seen that since Steel Angel Kurumi
>>53850676
Worked fine here. File a charge back with your card if they send you one, and send your bank the messages you sent them to cancel. Free Rift.
>>53843162
What are you guys talking about, isn't 360 degrees of virtual realiti literally trivial compared to 270? Or is it a meme?
>>53845913
But
How is vr porn?
>>53843612
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWVG4_0bdDc
>>53851707
Games have to be designed to be forward facing at all times. It's a bigger difference than you think.
>>53851877
Yea but how would that matter in rift vs vive?
>>53851565
Minami-ke had it but I guess it was more of a joke
>>53851893
As the post said, Touch only supports 270 degrees by default. Only in non-supported configurations will it support full 360.
Vive supports full 360 in the default config.
>>53851893
see
>>53845803
>>53851824
https://youtu.be/-k_8XKC3glA?t=22
>>53851927
So literally just put a longer cable on it?
>>53851944
That's what you get for ordering the Zuckerberg Rift™. Hail Gaben.
>>53843460
That was a cool video. I'm pretty sure at least some of those sound effects were edited in though.
>>53840425
>"Playstation VR will save us all"
VR is the next big step in all forms of entertainment.
If you disagree, you are welcome to say what you think the next step is, if not VR.
>>53841137
This is objectively the smartest decision.
Wait till the dust settles and we see the availability of apps/games.
>>53841137
>tfw the kickstarter was 4 years ago
>>53850530
the edge
>>53843312
They want to sell it to PS4 owners first. Apple did the same with the iPod on Macs.
>>53843312
>full PC compatability
>can't even plug in the camera to a PC because it's a nonstandard plug
Okay.
>>53843312
for VR, big screen arcade emulation, cinema emulation the PSVR is the best bet to go mass market
>>53848300
but the vive launches on april 5th, Tuesday? I'm first wave too.
>>53853822
Already shipped to a bunch of people. It's in my city now in a facility less than an hour away.
>>53848300
>>53853822
Well, yeah, but some of those are already shipped in more rural and shittier places. By luck one can get it already on monday.
My vive hasnt been shipped yet, and somehow I'm guessing that I wont get it by tuesday because my country has prettty shit tier logistics on all stages
>>53840626
yez it is.
>>53840626
It's two screens glued to your head, plus a gyroscope. This achieves nothing more than a legitimate computer interface except to showcase features of tech demos made specifically for this device.
>>53853822
Some people in the west coast have had theirs ship already.
>>53855434
Does that mean they will have it on the 4th though?
>>53856168
Scheduled delivery for the 5th.
>>53856199
Way back I'd originally replied to someone saying "getting it on monday" which is the 4th not the 5th
>>53856217
They told FedEx to deliver on the 5th and not to hold it at any shipping centers for pickup.
>he wants facebook literally in his face
CANNOT FABRICATE THIS EXCREMENT PHAMIGLIA
>>53856365
LMAO
