"Valve has just revealed that Windows 10 is now the most popular OS on the Steam Platform"
http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/software/windows_10_is_now_the_most_used_os_on_steam/1
How does this make you feel /g/ ?
they are retarded
Windows 7 is still on the top
>>53829462
What did you expect? They're dumb gaymers
>>53829539
Those other ones are the 32-bit versions, they count them separate.
>>53829539
>Linux - 0.85%
>>53829574
Yeah but does it mean Windows 7 64bits isn't Windows 7 ?
>Gaymers are tech illiterate
Who would have though?
Could someone tell me what did Osson said ? I can't find anything rude in his sentence.
>>53829462
Yeah, Microsoft's aggressive tactics have really paid off for them. Windows 8 never gained any traction because they didn't force it on people and Windows 7 was fine. Windows 7 is still fine, but this time they're all but forcing people to upgrade, unless they have a decent level of technical expertise to avoid it.
In a couple of years all the people pooperpained about their methods will have simmered down and forgotten about it, and Microsoft will have them where they want them.
>>53829462
>force update windows 10 everywhere
>oh guys you know what? windows 10 is the most used OS on Steam!! XD
stupid microsoft shills
>>53829655
People see a free OS update and they can't help but click it. I mean it's free, right? Even if they don't click it, MS will update it for you.
>>53829651
Remember that OC3D is a Britbong site. He didn't include a verse from the Holy Quran at the end of his post, which is required for all new members.
>>53829651
His name is retarded.
>>53829651
best regards is rude when you're talking on internet, he should have said fucking retard instead
>>53829651
Someone got triggered
>>53829651
LOL wow.
What a fucking stupid argument.
It doesn't change the fact that they are the same damn OS, just a different word size.
>>53829617
It just means the most popular OS on steam is Windows 10 64-bit.
For both 64-bit and 32-bit versions, the most popular is Windows 7 by a small margin.
>>53829539
So what happened, did Microsoft suddenly automatically create a ton of Steam accounts from a Windows 10 server farm? Seems more likely than a bunch of Linux users switching to Windows 10.
>>53829870
The funny thing is that even if every single Linux steam user switched to Windows 10, it would only go up by 0.83%
Top kek
>>53829870
Windows 10's share has been rising for months. Linux's share has been falling for months. The two aren't related. It's just more people being badgered/tricked into installing Windows 10, and interest in gaymen in Linux dropping off further and further as Valve try to pretend SteamOS doesn't exist.
Not like no one saw it coming. I'm surprised it isn't higher seeing as you actively have to avoid the Windows 10 update. Unless you have disabled Windows Update, which many people do because "updates slow down your computer".
>>53829462
It was inevitable with the forced upgrades from Microshaft, whether people wanted it or not.
>>53829651
>correcting things
>implying someone somewhere did something wrong
kill urself if you can't see how rude that is
Vista master race
>less than a percent
;_;
What if they abandon Linux?
>>53829941
What do you expect?
Most people are tech illiterate.
That includes gamers and even people in computing, paradoxically.
Actively trying to disable updates from installing before it happened is beyond most PC users.
This in spite of the fact that there are programs to disable this now.
>>53829992
At this rate, they probably will.
I'm sure they are only losing money on Linux, no reason to keep supporting it.
>>53829462
>steam
>windows 10
uhhh why would you use EITHER of these shitty software
>>53829462
>>53829462
based
>>53830190
NICE GRAPH
you shouldn't be wasting your life playing gaymes
>>/v/
>>53830190
Is this measuring the amount of time you waste trying to get the OS to work?
B O T N E T - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >
O Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
T https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
N
E Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
T https://archive.is/OBGB1
|
| Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
| https://archive.is/tW6fu
|
| Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
| https://archive.is/2XIvX · https://archive.is/qLRZx
|
| Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
| location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
| even after related settings are turned off:
| https://archive.is/Zny36 · https://archive.is/sz1nt
| https://archive.is/g3QdQ · https://archive.is/ko469
|
| A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10:
|
| Keypoints: Windows 10 has a keylogger and uploads all your
| keystrokes every 5 minutes. Everything you type in Edge or
| Cortana is sent to Microsoft, along with any media files it
| finds. When webcam is enabled, 35MB of data goes to Microsoft.
| Even with Cortana disabled/uninstalled, Windows 10 sends all
| microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
| https://archive.is/QnTTA
| https://archive.is/eZKc9
|
| Windows 10 sends desktop screenshots straight to Microsoft:
| https://d2.maxfile.ro/rwspylwbwo.webm
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDeHqiydk4A
|
| Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
| https://archive.is/vhjwm
| https://archive.is/2jehd
|
| Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
| https://archive.is/MB0Yy
|
| > Over 82 billion photos viewed.
| > Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
| > 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
| > Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
| > Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
|
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>>53830206
You also shouldn't be wasting your time browsing 4chan
>>53830206
Yeah, you should shitpost on /g/ instead, great use of time.
>>53829462
>april fools day, 4chan layout changes
>no win10 shill threads the whole day
>layout changes back
>at least 3 win10 threads open every time agaon
Think about it for a second
>>53830206
>implying spending your time tinkering with some hobby OS is better
>win10 still has icons from 21 years ago
cool
MORE BOTNETS! YAY
>>53829918
>The two aren't related.
They're directly related. Steam is gaining new users, mostly on Windows while the Linux numbers are growing slowly or staying relatively static.
There's also the Wine factor which falsely decreases Linux numbers, and the whole SteamOS situation where users who install SteamOS either on a dedicated gaming machine or as part of a multi-boot or virtual machine setup no longer count in the Steam stats at all.
Great, even more ads in the start menu. "Candy crush soda saga" is now preinstalled and is wasting disk space and is running in the background all the time.
>>53830155
The instant Valve drops Linux Microsoft will close Windows 10 off to only run games from their store. They have to stick it out.
>>53830414
>Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview
Use a real version of Windows 10 like Windows 10 Enterprise or Education, not the stupid bullshit that they make available to the tech-illiterate masses.
>>53830437
>Microsoft will close Windows 10 off to only run games from their store
Never will happen. Steam, Origin, UPlay, all the major publishers are way too big now. If MS did that, it would be suicide for PC gaming.
>>53830407
what is the point of steam os?
>>53830414
yo check out solitaire, your in for a delightful surprise!
>>53830414
I have never seen an ad on my Win 10 Professional desktop or anywhere else
>>53830407
And when steam asks for you to do the survey, being more privacy conscious, less people will accept it on Linux.
>>53829462
This could change if developers actually made some fucking games for platforms besides Windows.
>>53830263
>People will disregard this informative post
>>53830555
stop complain and do
also games are cross platform now, but people that use linux generally arent hardcore gamers nor could they install it easily
>>53830507
yeah...because there is a serious alternative to pc gaming..
>b-b-but muh linux
no, not even that shitty steamOS is worth installing for gaming. not to mention it would cost gaming developers millions to get their code to work on linux.
>>53829462
>Honda Accord is the most popular car in the US
must be the best then right?
fucking retard
>>53830555
And lose money because they cater to a minority?
Reminder that there are NO privacy concerns in windows 10!
>>>/v/
>>53830628
Who said Windows 10 is the best?
>>53830263
Ok then how to stop it from doing this?
>>53830628
Hondas are pretty nice though desu
>>53830643
Seriously making games for Linux is like throwing money into the trash.
>>53830681
simple, you don't fucking use it
Linux users are too busy crying about steam survey not showing up to notice.
I wonder how long before they claim this is a conspiracy and only Windows 10 users get the survey.
>>53830643
>>53830692
Tons of people use Macs, you goddamn pajeets. Don't limit the conversation to just Wangblows vs. Linux. Linux users don't really care about gaymes as much as you anyways, because they're smarter than you.
>>53830647
That picture...
>>53830704
Linux users probably didn't even take the survey because they were too paranoid about "muh privacy"
Those Linux numbers are a bit worrying.
Fucking gaymers wouldn't know a good OS if hit them in the face, like that retarded youtuber who thinks a Titan X is a good card for gaming.
>>53830717
>Tons of people use Macs
>OSX - 3.32%
OK
>>53830407
>They're directly related
No they aren't, and nothing you said implies they are in any way. Linux's share has never risen much above 1% and falls by fractions of a percent each month. It's completely and utterly irrelevant to Windows 10 storming up the charts. These people aren't switching from fucking Linux. They're upgrading from previous versions of Windows. If every single Linux user who's ever been counted on Steam migrated to Windows 10 within a month it'd barely be noticable.
>>53829462
good thing I don't use(iso) steam
Don't you have to opt in to their survey to be added to those numbers?
I guess Linux users are a bit more privacy minded, I know I never responded to their surveys but I'm just guessing here.
>>53830717
Macs are a minority too and are made for mobile tier games.
>>53830743
See: >>53830555
>>53830783
Mac market share is 4% overall. Making games for Mac is a losing proposition.
>>53830702
>Simple just give up all 1080p+ gaming and software compatibility.
There are ways to stop that shit.
>>53830852
>gaming
back to /v/
>>53830881
You realize you can like tech and gaming at the same time?
>>53829462
As someone that voluntarily installed W10 it makes me feel guilty. I avoided it for a long time because I don't want to make Microsoft feel like their borderline forced upgrades work out for them.
But I was installing a new SSD so I figured I might as well get the move over with now. W10, at the least the Pro version, is tolerable once you get rid of basically everything they added after W7. I'm effectively left with a metro themed W7 now.
>>53830907
Sure, I run steam on Linux and can play my favorite games. But I don't think that gaming is a good example of why you should have to stay with Windows.
>>53830939
>I don't want to make Microsoft feel like their borderline forced upgrades work out for them.
This is why I don't preorder games that offer stupid shit as a bonus
>>53830939
>I'm effectively left with a metro themed W7 now.
And a botnet
>>53830681
>>53830852
>>53830907
You're trading some shitty games to privacy, freedom and good softwares.
>>53830961
>Ignoring major software compatibility
Real work cannot be done in Linux and only hipsters or poor people use it.
>>53830939
Unless you're blocking Microshaft IPs in your router there is no way to avoid the botnet in Wintard10.
>>53831055
Or I could just use a heavily edited windows 10 released by a private group.
>>53830507
At what point did Microsoft care about PC gaming beyond plans to lock it down? Their current plan after all is to add a new 'console execution mode' that removes many of the benefits of PC gaming in order to offer a more Xbox-like environment.
It seems entirely plausible that at some point Microsoft will push to label Win32 and older applications as 'legacy' that won't be available to all Windows 10 users.
>>53831072
ignorance
>>53831072
Truth
>>53831162
I think you underestimate how much Windows and the entire PC platform is actually dependent upon gaming.
Gamers are the guys going out buying the newest hardware and software and telling all their friends about it, they are essential to Windows livelihood.
Microsoft would never shoot themselves in the foot like that.
>>53830838
If developers used standards from the start it would be cheaper for them to produce games that supported more platforms. Right now they sometimes even have to produce multiple backends just to support different versions of Windows.
OpenGL 4.1 + SDL would get them support for Windows 7, Windows 10, Linux with all drivers, and OS X.
OpenGL 4.3 + SDL would get them support for Windows 7, Windows 10, Linux with Nvidia, AMD Pro drivers and soon other drivers would work as well.
Vulkan + SDL would get them support for Windows 7, Windows 10, Linux with Nvidia, and AMD Pro drivers.
If Apple would update their GPU handling and developers got on board they could greatly simplify their workload by picking one of those solutions instead of DirectX.
>>53831072
>Implying most people don't pirate Windows
>>53831293
Ok you make a point but why would I use Linux if I can pirate windows?
>>53829651
This is why I can't fucking stand forums. These obnoxious Mr. 10000 Posts I Suck Mod's Cock always throw a tantrum when they get schooled by newer people.
>>53831236
Think how much of Windows gaming Microsoft has already shifted into their closed ecosystem with the Xbox. Their next step is expanding that into Windows 10 with UWP and DX12.
If they were to do it now to kill Steam it would be a bit like cutting off their own nose, but what about in a few years when Windows 10 is the only widely used version that Microsoft still officially supports and most Windows developers are on the new UWP bandwagon.
Microsoft has thrown away backwards compatibility before and left it to third parties who still cared about niche legacy software. Is there any reason to think that we won't see Windows go UWP-only in the future with the Windows Store as the only easy source of UWP software?
whoops!
>>53831080
Not through the privacy related settings no but disabling the responsible services and using the outbound firewall works just fine.
>>53831401
I can see them trying to go that direction, but I can see them failing horribly at it. Much like Windows phone, Microsoft is bad at that kind of shit. Steam is already so heavily entrenched and quite good that I can't imagine anything overtaking it this century.
Remember when Steve Ballmer went like "developers developers developers" on stage? That's exactly the reason why gaming (among other things) is more popular on Windows.
Make it easy for devs to make software on your platform and the rest will come on its own. Linux is fine and dandy but it's kind of a headache at the end of the day. Ubuntu had the right idea but their whole system stinks to me.
>>53830315
It actually is, tinkering with linux can teach you the skills required for sysadmin job. Playing gaymes can teach you the skills required for manchild in moms basement job.
>>53831451
Normal people aren't going to understand what's going on if Microsoft soft locks Windows to their store and the UWP format. Its just going to be "What, Steam doesn't work with the new update? Why do I have to click through these warning boxes every time? Fix your shit Valve!"
It may not kill Valve, but it would certainly erode their marketshare substantially.
>>53831533
Funnily enough, people actually make money playing video games these days.
>>53831329
Because I like to experiment and learn things, with Linux its easier (unless you use Ubuntu...).
But for home use I see no reason if you have no problem with an non-legit copy.
On the other hand unless you like games or need a very specific software for Windows only, I see no reason to prefer Windows either, today you can do everything the easy way in Linux too.
>>53831540
That's just not going to happen though because it would break tons of other software as well.
The only way for them to pull that off would be to slowly increase Windows Store integration over the course of say, 10 years, until people become familiar with it and actually use the Windows Store.
Then they can pull the plug and lock it down, but I highly doubt they will ever be able to pull that off.
>>53831540
The problem with this theory is that it implies they would do this to make money when it would obviously make them lose billions from all future installments of windows. It would also force steam to make a decent OS and make it good.
Why would you sabotage your billionare corp to do this? Every developer thinks they can make their games piracy proof but it will never happen as long as people want to do it.
>>53830414
Don't use a goddamn Microsoft Account to log-in to the OS and you'll be golden.
>>53831464
This.
>>53830702
But then I'll be broke since no apps on linux.
>implying i care about /V trends.
>>53831236
>gamers are windows livelihood
This is the dumbest thing I've read all year so far
>>53830726
wow about 10 million people out of 7.2 billion game everyday... it just happens that they use steam for comfort and for cheap prices... suddenly gamers are relevant to anything.
Why would I care about what a bunch of normies use to play PeeCee gaymes?
>>53831700
It's still billions of dollars lost to shareholders if they pulled some stunt to ruin compatibility with steam.
>>53831700
I doubt Windows could survive without gaming.
>>53831704
Nice reading comprehension.
Why would I care about windows knowing what piracy happens on my PC? My ISP is bound by my countries laws to protect who I am.
>>53831755
Well the same 10 million dumb people that waste their lives with hundreds - most thousands of hours of games are obviously tech illiterate in the great majority - of course they're going to use the face-roll OS which just works and has drivers that automatically install if your hardware is connected - then just works.
I don't understand your comment, it was totally related.
I don't like W10 because he comes full of crap apps like Alarms, Buy office, Download Skype and more
>>53831728
More like millions but I agree they'll never do it because it's fucking stupid and they have very little to gain from it. Not to mention the bad press they would get from it.
>>53831751
I doubt you can take a shit and clean your own ass without your mom's help.
>>53831764
I think Microsoft is more interested in USA users, little over rest of the world, after all outside of US the majority of countries used pirated windows 10 since forever.
>>53831751
You really need to leave 4chan occasionally.
>>53831700
Servers = Linux
Big data processing = Linux
Render farms = Linux
NAS = Linux
Academic computing = Linux
Office = Windows
Gaming = Windows
We are seeing a big swing in the office towards locked down linux workstations.
>>53831616
Its not impossible and its not 10 years away, and it is going to happen. They're already clearly in the process of deprecating Win32. Windows will get soft lock to Windows Store/UWP at first and maybe it would stay that way, but even that will deter the majority of users from installing software that isn't from the preferred source.
I'm really not sure why people think its impossible that Microsoft would be able to do this. Apple and Google have both proven that most developers will happily switch APIs and put up with the demands of app stores. In a business environment Microsoft is adding ways for IT to add in-house applications to the store, and IT already typically has to come around to install software not in approved lists anyway.
Most users won't blame Microsoft, they will blame the applications that don't work even if there's nothing their devs can do about it and they'll just use whatever is now easiest. Knowledgeable users will install Wine for Windows for legacy software just like they already install Dosbox.
>>53831802
>being this ignorant
![os_market_share_november_2015[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/b2puQfb.png "os_market_share_november_2015[1].png")
>>53831820
I like Linux too but to say that Windows is only around because of "gaming" is just stupid.
>>53831820
Guess where most of the money come from
I have a hint for you, it doesn't start with G
>>53831820
>We are seeing a big swing in the office towards locked down linux workstations.
Top kek. Windows has something like 90% market share in the business world and the Linux market share is actually going DOWN, not up.
>>53831851
It's all gaymen dude.
Forget about nearly every office environment in the world running windows and office
It's gaymen
>>53831874
And offices actually buy windows instead of pirating
>>53831751
Windows will still have gaming, but it will be an extension of Xbox gaming.
If Windows were to start throwing up error boxes saying "Do you want to allow this software from an unknown source to run on your system" every time a user tried to install a game from Steam while at the same time the new Halo was released in the Windows Store do you really think /v/ wouldn't be trashing Valve and praising Microsoft?
>>53831898
They usually just get it preinstalled on prebuilts, but yeah, they are paying for it.
>>53830322
probably a bunch of binaries from 21 years ago too.
>>53830675
OP did with his /pol/-tier shitthread
>>53830263
>watch the screenshots webm
>hurr im just gonna use muh handy dandy program to decrypt this rsa encrypted file
Stopped watching there
>>53829539
>Steam still supporting XP and Vista
Sasuga Valve
>>53829604
Back to 9gag underage faggot xD
>>53832077
>xD
Seriously. What's with the shilling lately?
>>53832113
No easier way to trigger the paranoid autists on /g/ than to say you like Windows 10
>>53832140
You must be one of them who think these people are trolling
>>53832182
God knows I'm trolling.
Wait people actually get paid for this shit? I need to get in on that.
>>53832216
A few rupees ain't considered as payment but it's your choice. Contact MS
>>53832258
These Indians have surprisingly good grammar.
>>53832309
>surprisingly good grammar.
Pasta*
>>53829539
>2016
>Using the term "Linux" instead of "GNU/Linux"
>>53829651
>seperate
Yeah, couldn't read past this, nothing like getting schooled by mr no grammar.
>>53832408
>using GNU/Linux
>when we can soon be using Windows/bash
>there are people who believe gaymen faggots weren't going to immediately install Windows 10 once they heard Direct X12
Never changed under aged babies
>>53829462
>playing games
Grow up
>>53831943
It's not encrypted.
>>53829546
>>53829646
/v/-babbies don't know how to turn off automatic updates
>>53829655
this nig knows what's up
>>53832656
>the average gamer is 31 years old
Get out grandpa
>>53830231
You can get it to work if you're not a fucking retard.
>>53830555
They do, 28% of March's releases were on Linux/SteamOS as well. Granted the bulk of them are probably games nobody wants but the number is growing every month.
>>53830555
While that would be nice until they start making games that don't work on Windows the push won't be big enough.
People will consider their options and then decide that they'll stay with Windows because it has -more- games and old games.
>>53829462
Well, there are a lot of retards on the planet.
>>53829462
Because the microcrap mallware was annoying as shit, and upgrading was the easier option.
>>53829462
>>53829918
>and interest in gaymen in Linux dropping off further and further as Valve try to pretend SteamOS doesn't exist.
It's because it has linux inside it, what's not to love? Linux is dead you fucking cucks
>>53829941
>updates slow your computer
This is why Microsoft wont let you turn auto-updates off in W10.
I kinda think it is a good thing, I just wish it gave more control over when you update.
>>53831084
Sounds legit. You should sell it. Maybe call it something after your last name. Maybe Winux or something
Help
>>53835793
I turned auto updates off in my W10
>>53835848
Your time is now. Just accept your fate.
>>53835855
Comes back on when there is a major update.
>tfw i'm on home version
Should I update to win 10 home and just take forced updated like a good faggot?
>>53835997
Take it and enjoy it big boy.
>>53836020
i-it's for m-my own good, right? Everyone s-should update w-windows anyway, r-right?
>>53835997
At least you can delay it, and figure out from the raging hate from "insiders"* whether or not it has a chance to unrecoverably send your PC in a boot loop.
* (hapless consumers who take up the task that should have been left to testers)
>>53836066
Wait, you can do that on home version? I thought they install immediately as they're released.
>>53830263
It's pretty clear Windows 10 is a government spyware project. Why else would it be free and such a rushed mess.
>>53836071
Nah, you can set it to only install after notifying. (which it will do at inopportune times, and still means that it will auto-install if you ignore the notification)
>>53836108
So I guess I should get pro version anyway if I don't want random interruptions?
>>53836136
If that is an issue for you, then yeah I suppose.
I honestly haven't been too bothered about the update requests, it was mostly how I set up my updates anyway before W10. (if a slight bit more naggy now)
>>53829462
what valve doesnt tell you is i was just playing half life blue shift on my windows 10 VM to fuck around with a new bigass aquos TV at work and I still play all my games on my Macbook Pro and WiiU
t. wewlad
Linux users tend to use wine, virtual machine or simply duel booting. So even if someone switches to Linux it's unlikely that Windows will actually lose a user.
>>53830414
The ads only come with Windows 10 Home, Pro and Enterprise don't have any.
>>53836334
it says he's on a pro version in the lower right of the screen though
>>53830414
>insider preview
>>53831593
>Linux is way easier to learn
>But only if you like the distros I like
>AND you have to pick the right one out of hundreds of crappy ones.
The idea of trying to start a "console war" between Windows and Linux is retarded. Linux has no exclusive games. In fact, the very concept of "Linux exclusive" is dumb because OpenGL and Vulkan work on Windows, so it would be trivial to port. Even if the company didn't want to fans would probably port it somehow. So people don't switch to Linux to play games. Rather, people switch to Linux for other reasons, then play games once they get there. If a game isn't for Linux, they use Wine or VM with GPU passthrough. Basically people use Linux for reasons other than gaming, and happen to game while using Linux. However there are some people who use Windows solely for gaming. Basically it's an apples and oranges comparison. People who use Linux are usually technically knowledgeable to emulate Windows to play Windows games, while a Windows user would never need to emulate Linux. This isn't like PS4 vs. Xbone.
>>53836471
This is so incredibly accurate.
>>53836334
Not true, I have Pro and it comes with some random ad shit
>>53836471
It's not a war, it's a massacre. Linux never stood a chance.
>>53836471
The sad thing is that because its trivial for Linux games to Windows developers would save a ton of time and money going Linux-first. Just like a number of times in the past developers have targeted lesser used platforms because they made multi-platform easier through support of standards. Except that this time its unlikely to happen because the eye of watchdogs are off Microsoft and they are once again free to engage in monopolistic crap like paying developers to target their new 'Universal' application platform that only works on Windows 10.
>>53836753
Spending any time at all developing for Linux is just throwing money down the drain. Even developing for Mac is a losing proposition, and they have 4x the market share of Linux.
>>53829539
>95%
WINdowS WINS AGAIN
lol. is this new news? no fffiense here/. but duh.
windows has always been the number 1 gaming OS?
>>53829870
No it's just people getting new PC's that come with 10 and installing steam, that's all.
>>53836853
Except its not because like it or not Android is Linux and in the not too distant future desktop GNU/Linux and mobile Android/Llinux are going to look nearly identical as far as games are concerned.
Develop on desktop Linux, deploy to every version of Windows, and Android. Seems a lot more 'universal' than UWP.
>>53837192
Android is owned by google which makes it proprietary basically.
>>53837192
>desktop GNU/Linux and mobile Android/Llinux are going to look nearly identical as far as games are concerned
>>53837303
Would you care to explain what major differences remain? Both will be using the same EGL drivers, both will have SDL, both will be using Vulkan.
>>53837334
Oh you know, just small things like a screen that is 5x bigger and completely different user interface.
>>53836853
It's not about targeting Linux, it's about targeting Vulkan. Microsoft is retarded by making DX12 Windows 10 exclusive.
>>53830322
>app
>>53830939
i've used every image search known to me and failed.
what is the source of this image?
>>53829695
UNLESS THERE IS A BUG PREVENTING THE WINDOWS 10 UPGRADE HUEHUEHUE
seriously though, my dad's laptop is stuck on Windows 8 because every time he clicks the upgrade to Windows 10 button it just fucking closes out and doesn't upgrade, and other people are also having similar issues. Maybe I'll convince him to donate his computer to find a cure for Windows 10, as it seems his computer has built up an immunity
>>53838378
no you didn't
>>53838672
you are correct, i found it shortly after posting here.
>games are for babies etc etc
then what am I supposed to do after I come from work, shitpost on a mexican silk weaving forum?
>>53829870
> be 12 year old gamer kid
> windows 10 update pops up
> OH EHM GEE WUTZ DAT
> ITS DA FUTURE
> click install
... this is how.
>>53836334
And Pro costs a fuckton.
Even if you have a normal license, the upgrade is fucking expensive.
It was the same for Win8.
Luckily the only trouble I had with the regular Win8 is that stupid "Sonar" thing that pops up a window when you play games - saying you are running out of memory.
It was possible to disable that shit through regedit.
>>53831881
that's the best part.
win10 offers literally nothing for gamers.
it's all about the DX12 buzz-word, yet no current game is using it.
and there is one big fucking thing that people forget.
- If the game is poorly written, see Korean free-2-play titles like Blade & Soul, TERA, or even APB:R.. these games will still have shit framerates.
- IF the game was properly written, see Battlefield 4 for example, or Black Ops 3, it is already using all the cores available, thus you don't have any performance issues anyway.
So it's basically kinda pointless.
I understand it will kick up the performance a notch IF you have a fully supported DX12 GPU (which most people don't have), and IF the game implements DX12 properly.
>>53831593
>unless you use Ubuntu...
>this meme again
>>53831464
>their whole system stinks to me
How?
>Remember when Steve Ballmer went like "developers developers developers" on stage? That's exactly the reason why gaming (among other things) is more popular on Windows.
>Make it easy for devs to make software on your platform and the rest will come on its own.
It's already piss fucking easy, as easy as windows development or even better.
And now you can easily make applications that work on both windows and linux thanks to Vulkan.
>Linux is fine and dandy but it's kind of a headache at the end of the day.
How? The only real issue is software compatibility. That's it.
Ubuntu works out of the box and is nearly perfect.
It's weird that so many people are in OSX
After all most of the AAA releases coming out for it came out years ago and that train has kinda stopped, while linux is still kinda going.
>>53829462
Idiots who support DRM cancer also like to use a Botnet OS ... what's next, homosexuals with iPhones? Neckbeards who use Linux?
>>53831162
>at some point Microsoft will push to label Win32 and older applications as 'legacy'
I think they actively started doing this when Win8 came out.
>>53829462
Gaymer scum will bring the death of privacy and safe computing, just like normalfags killed the web with their over inflated egos and attention whoring. Thanks /v/.
>>53829462
gaymer kids use the os that was pre-installed on the computer their mommy or daddy bought them?
>>53831874
>90% market share in the business
Only in offices. And yes it is increasing even in the business world.
In servers windows has like 10% marketshare.
Where reliability counts, windows cannot win against linux.
>>53829539
>0.85%
>Year of Linux Desktop
Kek
I've rapidly lost all respect for Microsoft, and consequently have lost a great deal of interest in anything to do with their products. Microsoft's clumsy, desperate, visionless push to get PC users to adopt dumbed-down mobile-oriented apps purely for their own commercial benefit; the unrelentingly persistent, unethical, and highly deceptive way they're trying to trick less tech-savvy Windows 7 and 8.1 users into "upgrading" to Windows 10; and their insistence on reducing user choice and control over Windows have all left a very bad taste in my mouth. This is an inept company struggling for relevance in the mobile era by shamelessly abusing its monopoly on desktop operating systems, and I don't want to play any part in helping them do that.
>>53831820
>Servers = Linux
LMFTFY: Servers = Linux AND Windows
>MUH AD
Which is why you won't see Linux used in most office environments
>>53829462
Tfw Microsoft infiltrated Linux to install windows 10.
>>53836334
Enterprise has ads too
>>53832110
>didn't know irony meme
Newfag
>>53830647
>>>/reddit/
>>53841689
Who isn't removing/blocking that though?
Hell, even if you don't just using classic shell will ensure you never see them.
>>53829651
Because facts are triggering and triggering people is rude
>>53835848
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm
>>53843179
>Who isn't removing/blocking that though?
I did, with some powershell commands. It all came back after update..
>>53843316
Use your hosts file at all?
Should I upgrade to windows 10 on the laptop I use for normalfag things?
>>53843361
No.
>>53843339
To achieve what? Those "universal applications" crap are going to get reinstalled anyway. And yes I was using the MVPS one, it's the first thing that I did.
>>53843361
Yes.
>>53841698
>>53841451
Actually Windows even has 50% market share in servers lad.
>>53841689
Get the N edition, doesn't come with any of that, not even wmp. Using Win 10 N Pro now.
>>53845903
Yes, this is what I have. N. That's the answer.
>>53830437
>The instant Valve drops Linux Microsoft will close Windows 10 off to only run games from their store. They have to stick it out.
With a whopping 0.84 market share I'm sure Microsoft doesn't give a shit about valve supporting Ubuntu in any event.
Christ you Linux fags are delusional.
>>53831700
If it weren't for games I would have abandoned windows a long time ago.
So uncle sam knows im a nerd who is into animu and vidya. What the fuxk does it even matter? If youre concerned about privacy then use a seperate machine for your super secret shit...
>>53832077
Funfact: These memes started here.
>>53838967
I kek'd
>>53830155
How they could be losing money?
>>53845824
>Actually Windows even has 50% market share in servers lad.
>implying
![Hp7jW1S[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/YYZIr3O.png "Hp7jW1S[1].png")
>>53845824
![loZczKl[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/P34xM2W.png "loZczKl[1].png")
>>53845824
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
>>53846877
Linux - 35.9%
Windows - 32.3%
Unknown - 30.9%
Can't get much closer to 50% than that.
If you think Linux is dominant in servers, you aren't paying attention.
>>53845903
>>53846135
N editions only lack WMP. Everything else (Store crap) is in place
>>53846919
>top 1 million websites
>96.6% Linux
>If you think Linux is dominant in servers, you aren't paying attention.
Keep shilling
>>53847107
>>53845903
>>53846135
and video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syvO23auGYU
>>53829539
desu I don't get why devs bother developing for linux, and this is coming from someone who doesn't have windows running in a single machine.
>>53847116
Yeah let's just ignore the other 9 million.
If they went even more than 10 million, I wonder how bad it would keep getting for Linux.
>>53847210
The thing is, the more important reliability becomes, the more do companies use linux.
The shittier the company the more do they use windows.
This is what the table shows.
Also in no way do any of those percentages show windows having close to 50% market share.
And even in the first 10 million linux still dominates.
>>53847492
35.9% is domination? OK buddy.
The only thing it shows is that Linux is used on high traffic websites. That is one thing Linux is good at, scaling up for very high use cases. That's also why it's used in supercomputers.
Your average server though? Not so much.
>>53847529
>Your average server though? Not so much.
>I have no idea what I am talking about
>>53846919
>Linux - 35.9%
>Windows - 32.3%
>Unknown - 30.9%
>Can't get much closer to 50% than that.
>If you think Linux is dominant in servers, you aren't paying attention.
>>53847529
>35.9% is domination? OK buddy.
if you had actually paid attention instead of being a winbaby cuck you'd realise that the 30.9% in the "unknown" section falls under the "unix, unix-like" category which is almost always going to be linux, but the shitty testing methodology w3techs use can't get reliable operating system statistics because websites like to fuzz that information
see the statistics by w3cook that aren't shit at what they do to to get reliable operating system data from within the "unix, unix-like" category
and the 67.8% to "unix, unix-like" category is heavily biased towards microsoft as w3techs use shitty testing methodology that state that any technology that is found on a single page will count for the whole website (and any subdomains), and that subdomains aren't counted - great, so any website that uses a microsoft front end for whatever reason (employee login) but uses unix backend will be counted towards microsoft
windows 32.3% market share i.e., "can't get closer to 50%"; linux 68% market share not a majority, where the fuck did you learn maths
>>53831790
you can download the windows 10 N one that dont have any of that retard
Concerning games,Even with a slight lead to windows 7 most devs will make games using dx9 or DX11 to run on both windows platforms or say fuck it and use vulkan but that wishful thinking.
>>53848351
For anyone crying over Linux,Linux is DOS to most people when you got to fix something and computers didn't take off till windows 95 with it's gui.
>>53830491
Unless you have literally thousands of dollars you can't get either easily legit. "Pro" versions are their versions they try to market to technical people who aren't schools or businesses, and they fucked that up.
