PS2 has died, and yet it's emulation is never achieved.
>>53825909
PS2 emulation has been a thing for years.
In 2010 I was playing FF10 on a fucking Athlon 2 with a 5570 for fuck sake.
>I don't know how to use google
>>53825909
Way to go retard.
>>53826015
I bet it performed like shit.
>inb4 sour grapes
>>53826015
Sure, with frame skipping and hacks.
A modern i7 clocked to 5Ghz can barely pass for decent emulation at full frame rate.
>>53825909
>yet it's emulation is never achieved
[citation needed]
Nes release : 1983
Nesticle release : 1997 (to a buggy alpha
Ps2 release date: 2000
Ps2 alpha emulation: 2014
seems about the same release time line
>>53825909
stop being a cheap ass and buy one from Ebay. They're, what, $20-$30 with games and controllers???
>>53826052
>>53826050
It played fine. I was using PCSXE 2 and it was completely playable. Even had controller support.
Are you just so illiterate you can't emulate properly.
>>53825909
They call it a PS2 because when you see one, you turn 2pi radians and walk away.
>>53826052
lel fuck off. I have i7 4790k and software renderer which is 99.9% accurate never slows down.
>>53826050
Huh? You can play most games in 1080p with AA at 60fps. In fact, most games run better than on the original hardware.
>>53826147
I'm pretty sure he's trolling.
>>53826126
whats the s then?
>>53826103
The first release of PCSX2 was in 2002. It has been running commercial games for almost 10 years now.
>>53825909
PS3 has died, and yet it's emulation is never achieved.
I WANT LBP1 PC AND I WANT IT NOW
>>53826126
... that's a full circle.
>>53826175
whoops my bad! should have researched into other ps2 emulators.
That just goes to show that the rate of release is actually better than before!
>>53826184
>being new
I don't understand this thread.
I literally just finished playing a game of Tekken 5 on my PS2 emulator.
What's the problem here?
PPSSPP absolutely blows PCSXE2 out of the water. Granted, they're emulators for two different consoles but it's ridiculous at how polished and smooth the first one is after 2 years of development.
To the point that the state of PCSXE2 is kind of embarrassing after what? 7 years of development? Fucking lol.
Does it have to do with the complexity of the Emotion Engine or something?
This thread is shit
PS2 emulation at this point is only hindered by the GPU and your settings, or games which have very strange graphical loads such as Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec which for no reason tried to max out your GPU VRAM at the start of any race and near the starting area of most maps.
Pic,
>x5650 at 4Ghz running FFXII
>4x native D3D11 plus some shader options
even the fucking pressure buttons work. switch to software rendering for full accuracy or go hw rendering for NEAT effects and widescreen.
>>53826177
PS3 is actually waaaaay harder because of the memory architecture. Turns out it's hard to match the performance of XDR RAM.
>>53826252
Play some Ys Felghana my nigga.
>>53826254
I can't get GTA:LCS to play smoothly. In some areas it just drops frames, on a [email protected] and a gtx970
>>53826232
PS2 Shut down it's Online Servers for good on march 31st. PS2 is kill now
>>53826295
>GTA:LCS
Im not your tech support and the only PS2 GTA I'll ever play is San Andreas
its not fucking dead you fucking clickbait reading idiot , you can still play many games online
only 5 games got taken down because they ran with that dnas shit and now every dumb gaymer site is parroting whoever posted the wrong information first
>>53826310
Ohhh. Beggin your pardon. I had no idea it was still going.
>>53826295
LCS is a port of the of the PSP game. Grab PPSSPP and emulate the game through there. It's the same thing (slightly, they removed some multiplayer features in the PS2 port).
>>53826169
Was not. Maybe I was just trying the wrong emulator.
Tried Persona 3, ran like sheeit. Like 1FPS, movies not loading, all kinds of weird shit going on, instantly stopped caring after hours of screwing around.
>>53826252
Consider the PS2s CPU vs the PSPs CPU in terms of architecture. The PS2 is rather inconvenient to emulate.
>>53826295
No surprise
GTA:LCS on an actual PS2 drops frames badly to the sub-20s
The framerate is worse than any other GTA on the PS2
>>53826348
Maybe you should do some research first instead of opening a thread based on your own incompetence. Just look up "emulate persona 3 ps2" and you would have seen that people are able to emulate the game at native 1080p60.
>>53826324
halo 3 servers are still up though!
>>53826352
what exactly is the difference? arm vs x86? sorry i dont know much about cpu architechture
What I want to know is why there hasn't been a good Xbox OG emulator yet
>>53826393
Lack of interest. Not many exclusives that haven't been ported to the PC.
>>53826334
>>53826364
I'll give it a try.
>>53826379
Sony used PowerPC until the Vita, which used ARM, and the PS4 uses x86 now
>>53826426
The PSP uses MIPS, champ.
>>53826393
exclusives are mostly ported to pc, other than that most of the games were also on ps2 so why not just make only one emulator which has much more exclusives?
>>53826426
x86 actually still means nothing for emulation because it's not simply about the CPU architecture but the whole chipset. I mean instruction conversion is the easiest step for emulators. The overall architecture is what fucks the shit up.
>>53826407
I guess you're right, pretty much the only worthwhile exclusive left is jet set radio future
>>53826453
i guess that's much better than using PowerPC still
>>53826425
After that jump on VCS. The gameplay is way, WAY better. Its amazing that they crammed the entire city in a UMD disc, plus choppers and planes.
The gang management mini-game is addicting as fuck.
>>53826252
What are some good games for PSP? I want to give it a try.
>>53826537
Star Ocean 2 remake.
The "intro" gameplay takes about an hour but it's a great RPG
>>53826015
All PS2 emulators are shieet and I have never experienced playing a game with 0 bugs.
>>53826611
>All emulators are shieet and I have never experienced playing a game with 0 bugs.
ftfy
>>53826680
all the gba/gbc/snes emulators worked fine tb.h
Anyone have any reliable sources for PS2 games? I've downloaded a bunch from emuparadise but they never seem to extract properly.
>There will never be any decent PS3, Xbox, or Xbox 360 emulators
>>53826348
Have you tried different settings?
>>53826710
isozone is probably the best for disc based retro games
the dl speed is shit so paid for a firedrop account
>>53826730
ps3, definitely not. xbox/360? maybe some day.
i hate it when millenials try to get in on emulators and they're too retarded to know how to adjust settings because they were too busy learning how to dougie to know that shit.
>>53826758
>>53826730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJX5cns4Mj0
What was the purpose behind the blue disks that came out when it first started?
>>53826758
>>53826730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCEdbmOg5OQ
shit wrong one
>>53826463
>instruction conversion is the easiest step for emulators.
that's like saying internal combustion is the easiest step for a car. even if it were true it doesn't make it easy.
>>53826189
NO$GBA came out a few days less than a full year post release
>>53826804
oh damn that's cool. i wonder how it works.
>>53826790
>it runs like shit
>"did you change settings"
>WAAAAAH SHITTY FUCKING EMULATION
why there haven't been any ps2 hack for standard pc dvd drive?
we have raspberry/arduino
couldn't they do drive emulation?
Can I emulate a i5 on a i7?
>>53826730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsuKQfsu-zk
>>53825909
PCSXE 2 works pretty well for some games. I had good performance for FFX and (surprisingly actually) FFXII. For Shadow of the Colossus for example the performance was a disaster. But I remember even the real PS2 struggled with that one and had frame drops and all that.
>>53826252
>uses research from JPCSP
>simpler architecture
>competent devs
No shit.
>>53826277
plus, a lot more happened after the ps2 compared to after the ps3.
The ps2 has a measly 300Mhz CPU that would be considered junk in a desktop a few years later, while a ps3 CPU would be usable today, in fact the ps3 CPU is more powerful than the ps4 CPU.
CPU performance has stalled somewhat, for several reasons including GPUs and mobile taking over, AMD not competing since phenom2, not being able to raise the clock..
>>53826252
I am no expert, but also making the emulator able to utilize multiple cores (or at least more than 2) might help a bit. As far as I know ps2 emu, can only use 2 as the software is to old and it will take a full remake of it all to be able to use several cores.
>>53826499
It works. Seems to be capped at 30fps, but I guess there's a patch for that.
>>53826887
You could underclock your i7 to the speeds of an i5.
>>53826730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoXdXYy_jGU
>Sonic 06 as it was originally intended
>>53825909
buy a PS2, network adapter, and HD Loader, you big fairy. Play (practically) every game.
>>53826887
They have the same architecture.
It's like saying can car emulate a car
>>53826730
there sure will once they are old, and nostalgia is high.
>>53826998
>still believing in the power of the cell
i have bad news for you
>>53827059
not sure what you're saying
>>53826998
> in fact the ps3 CPU is more powerful than the ps4 CPU.
If they clocked to Xbone frequency the PS4 CPU would be slightly more powerful
>>53826887
Is there a need to?
Here's a screenshot of all CPUs that can do above 60FPS on a PCSX2 benchmark based on Final Fantasy.
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-CPU-Benchmark-designed-for-PCSX2-based-on-FFX-2
This thread is now null and void.
>>53826479
They never used PPC. Even the PS1 is the MIPS R3000.
>>53826837
id say handheld is a little different though since theres less to emulate
>>53827079
If they put the PS4 CPU in the Xbone and overclocked it, then the Xbone would be more powerful.
If they put the PS4 RAM in the Xbone and overclocked it, then the Xbone would have better memory performance.
If they put the PS4 GPU in the Xbone and overclocked it, then the Xbone would be more powerful.
Nuff said. Microsoft FTW.
>>53826887
Do you even know what emulation is?
>>53827079
perhaps, but the thing is it's not an order of mangitude more powerful.
>>53827165
The PS3 does use PPC, I guess that anon thought Sony had been using PPC instead of their custom MIPS chips forever
>>53827182
> PS4 CPU in the Xbone and overclocked it
But they have the exact same CPU.
And the Xbone is clocked higher.
What are you even trying to say you fucking retard
>>53827182
>If they put the PS4 CPU in the Xbone and overclocked it, then the Xbone would be more powerful.
Actually the CPU part of Xbone is a bit better.
Also they are both SoC so it's not like you can just "put parts"
Theoretically speaking, how hard would it be to run PS4/Xbone games on a PC now that they both are x86?
>>53827176
Yeah, like there is no PSU to emulate, it's just battery, so DC, which is really simple ...
>>53827176
Depends on the architecture and the power of the handheld.
PSP emulation is superior to PS2 emulation despite the PSP being the stronger more recent console.
>>53827290
Depends on the emulator.
But generally not very hard since the PS4/XBone barely have any exclusives so you can just play with the PC version
>>53826348
>instantly stopped caring
>after hours of screwing around
>>53826393
>>53826393
http://ngemu.com/threads/the-delay-of-the-cxbx-release.131884/#post-1803375
>>53827196
Good point, I'd forgotten about that!
>>53827290
Theoretically, you're one hypervisor away, maybe with a GCN translation layer for the GPU.
Practical complications, amongst other things, include copy protection, some modules of dedicated hardware, and different memory semantics.
Quite different memory semantics. Even on the Durango, let alone the Orbis. Take a look at fail0verflow's work to get Linux running on the PS4 to see the interesting stuff they have to deal with over there. They're both like whole new PC chipsets.
How close are your CPUs to the Jaguar itself? Well, you might actually be running a Jaguar, but probably not. They seem to be optimising for it but there's nothing on there that wouldn't also run on an Intel... but down the line they could add code which tries to detect cache behaviour, or specific Jaguar errata of the correct SoC. If emulation became mainstream, they would certainly try to do that.
The copy protection is tricky, but not insurmountable, and they would both actively try to stop it.
However, it is still theoretically easier than an emulation or simulation. Indeed, early Durango and Orbis devkits both literally run Windows, with a certain graphics card. But the devil's in the details.
>>53826368
I'm not OP.
>launch CECHA01 firmware 3.55 master race reporting
>>53827387
Have you ever fucked around with something until you break and said FUCK IT ALL!!!??
That's what happened.
>>53825909
we'll have hardware-perfect PS2 emulation in about 20 years, moore's rule of thum withstanding .
We barely have hardware-perfect NES emulation now: bsnes requires a 3GHz processor.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2011/08/accuracy-takes-power-one-mans-3ghz-quest-to-build-a-perfect-snes-emulator/1/
>>53827489
It's called higan nowadays
But it doesnt have to be perfect, just needs to be good enough.
why can't i develop test games for my ps2?
>>53827489
>We barely have hardware-perfect NES emulation now: bsnes requires a 3GHz processor.
What the fuck am I reading?
For hell's sake,I can do Genesis emulation on a Pentium II 400MHz (really did it,with about 384MB RAM),so in no fucking way HW-perfect NES emulation will take 3GHz.
>>53826537
Dont even bother, most PSP games are shit (the reason why it was so popular is for its homebrews, not its games)
If you really want to try something out, Peace Walker and 3rd birthday are pretty much the best games you'll find.
Crisis core is cool if you dont mind long-term games.
call me when I can play Ace Combat without everything fucking up constantly
>>53827715
What about Wipeout? I got a broken PSP once (MB shot during delivery right from Germany) along with a Wipeout game,which was in Italian. That,and some NFS Underground Rivals game or something around that.
>>53826730
Im still waiting for a PS3 slim 2
A very low consumption PS3 would be a great media center and casual gaming machine.
>>53827743
I never liked racing/sport games so i dont know.
>>53827694
SNES emulation is cycle accurate nowadays but I think that still does not equal being hardware perfect, but it should still perfectly emulate any game.
>>53826887
Yes, but any program that thinks you have 8 cores(hyperthreading) will try to use them. Which means probably less performance.
>>53827489
perfect = best right? So why can i render ps1 and two games better than the consol on my pc if its not perfect but better?
whata significance is that?
>>53827793
Pardon me asking, but what's the difference between the two?
>>53827109
>Final Fantasy
This post is now null and void
>>53827743
wipeout is a ps1 game though, so it barely counts.The only good psp games are the japanese exclusives, same holds for psvita
>>53825909
>PS2 has died
mine is very much alive
>>53827109
why are they overclocked so high?
>>53827859
The one I got was a PSP game. Literally.
>>53826126
>2pi
>doing a full circle
>walk away
retard confirmed
>>53826110
or just freemcboot them and you won't even need to buy games
An actual fat PS2 with a network adapter and a HDD softmodded with FCMB is a great compromise and well worth the price IMO. There's even a tutorial on Reddit for setting it up so you can stream games over the network.
>>53827847
Well I think a hardware accurate emulation would imply that it emulates all the electro magnetic shit that goes on in the components which would be hard as shit and not worth it to take into account since if you get every cycle correctly anyway there's no real difference. But I am no expert on this subject so take it with a grain of salt.
>>53827489
>We barely have hardware-perfect NES emulation now: bsnes requires a 3GHz processor.
Are you high?
I emulate NES on my PSP.
>>53826147
>1080p
that is nothing more than watching a low definition film on full hd screen
no game runs better than original hardware
at best it runs as well--best like on PS3 emulation
>>53827909
*FMCB
>>53827909
>setting it up so you can stream games over the network.
For some reason I tried that with a late slim (77004 v15) and it didn't work.
>>53826295
played it on the actual console back in the days, aside from being a horrible game, it was horribly optimised too. play the PSP version as the other faggots said
>>53825909
>ps2 has died
yeah, like 5 years ago.
just because some MMo shuttered doesn't mean it was still alive, or even on life support.
>>53827922
Hardware-pefect emulation is miles away from what you get on a PSP. Some hardware-perfect implementations emulate the individual transistors for a 100% accurate representation. PSP emulation might only be 95% accurate.
>>53827459
enjoy your Yellow Light Of Death
>>53827766
build quality on slim 2 is shit. get a slim 1, it looks better and feels less chinked
>>53827838
Perfect = 100% the same as the console
>>53827766
SLim 2 exists and feels cheap as shit
>>53827887
>being this new
>>53828032
>>53828024
If you mean the super slim... no.
I mean, something with no BD, newer CPU/GPU with lower power consumption, smaller, external PSU, etc
>>53828075
so...the playstation tv?
>>53827921
Hardware accurate just means that it simulates ideal components. It doesn't simulate Maxwell's equations in a atom exact model of the console, it just simulates everything up to what is relevant for operation. Most electromagnetic stuff that happens does not affect operation.
>>53828075
>newer CPU/GPU with lower power consumption, smaller, external PSU
While that would be feasible,that may mean making a new console.
Though,didn't all PS3s use a version of Geforce GT7850 known as RSX?
>>53825909
Hi, my retarded friend. PCSX2 is better than PS2 at everything.
>>53828106
>It doesn't simulate Maxwell's equations in a atom exact model of the console
I wonder if we'll see anything like that in our lifetimes
>>53828094
Nah, the PSTV is pretty much just an "android stick" able to run Vita games.
>>53827884
i know, what im saying is the psp version is essentially just a port of the original. The game paly is the same, they just tacked on a few extra things.
>>53825909
Blame the hackers and people commentating the PS2 back when it was a thing.
Everyone worked for himself, they never shared anything, there is barely any useful documentation of the console.
Wii and Gamecube emulation is so great because the Wii is documented as fuck, there info about everything.
>>53826052
you can do full software emulation easily now.
Also speed hacks will actually give you worse performance, I thought DQ8 was running poorly for ages before I realized the speedhacks was causing poor performance.
>>53828396
Yet the PS2 was much more popular.
>>53826052
bullshit
i7-2600 non-k here, it plays perfectly fine.
>>53828433
So?
Homebrew scene is a mess too, they never figured out how run pirated PS1 games on a PS2 without a hardmod or emulate the games which ran horrible.
>>53827489
Most CPUs this days are over 3GHz so its not a big problem.
>>53826052
Ultra bullshit.
Phenom X4 960T here and it plays perfectly fine. And with a Radeon HD6800
>>53826887
just downclock it slightly and turn off HT
that's literally the only difference between i5 and i7
>>53826052
Dolphin is more demanding than PCSX2 due to its goal of accurate emulation, and The Last Story is the most demanding game you can play on it. I can run that full speed at 3x native with 2x MSAA on a Phenom II X6 1090T.
>>53828487
PS2 wasnt much powerful so the lack of homebrews is understandable.
>>53828618
PSP is weaker and has more stuff than the PS2, its not about power.
>>53827925
You can't be serious. I've seen MGS3 on jewtube run on 1080p and with AA looking great man.
>>53828511
>>53827489
And a 3 ghz CPU of today is stronger than a much older 3 ghz cpu
>>53826052
Lmao no
My 5 year old laptop with an i7 2630QM plays most games I throw at it fine with 60 FPS 1080p, or at worst, native
>>53825909
I took a break from playing Persona 4 on PCSX2 to laugh at you.
Works flawlessly.
I played MGS 2 from a legit PS2 disc in my PC with an emulator about 5 years ago.
>>53828798
then I suppose I was mistaken
>>53826801
Those were CDs instead of the usual DVDs the PS2s used.
Fun fact, the PS2 actually has two lasers built in the optical drive for both DVD and CD.
>>53826807
I actually meant that it's a trivial task. If it were the only case, then we would just convert the games offline, not at the runtime.
>>53829121
Almost all modern 3D emulators actually render the game at a higher resolution, rather than simply upscaling a low resolution image. I run most things at 4K internal resolution on my 1080p, since it makes everything look amazing and really doesn't require a monster GPU.
>>53825909
Why the fuck would you emulate a shitty old console when there are thousands of games on Steam?
>>53829288
>recommending proprietary, freedom-denying, DRM software
>>>/v/
>>53829135
Sorta like my laptop's Blu Ray drive has.
>>53826348
>it runs perfectly on Athlon X2 /w 1GB RAM and gt610 for me
Retard confirmed.
Played every game I wanted with a C2D in 2009, wanted to play MGS3 but you needed a quad core. Did so in 2012 perfectly with an i5. Only had to switch to software emulation when there's a part where you have to go underwater and it lagged on hardware. Annoying part with PCSX is that some older versions are better with some random games, you just have to spend 10 minutes and download a few and test.
>hurr hurr it isn't accurate
Oh god, "muh accuracy" faggots are the fucking worst. Honestly it's a toss up between anti-emulator luddites and accuracy fags, both say you shouldn't use the emulator for their own unique autistic reason, two flip sides of the same retarded coin.
I don't WANT accuracy, N64 was like 320 x 200, meanwhile I can play it at 5760 x 1080. Any controller I want, if you remember the 64 controller was so bad due to ruined palms that nintendo almost got sued over it. And you'll probably find one of these types of people still insisting you have to use the controller either because "it's how it was intended" or "muh accuracy". Also all of these games on N64, GC, PC all downsize their textures on the original console, you're getting something 10x better even with the res on the emulator. Dolphin looks fucking amazing even on just double original res textures, again they were there in the roms the entire time.
Will easily take all these hacks to get it to work at amazing resolutions with higher res textures, enjoy buying your super computer to compare screenshots to jack off to the pixels indeed lining up the way they did on the original console. Why not include ironic scanlines and faux screen curve since it was made before 2001, you're no better than /vr/ dropping $500+ on obscure flashcarts to play the most common fucking games that work flawlessly in emulators.
>>53829253
Not the best example in the world, but FFXII at 8x native resolution, scaled to 1080p.
I used to not be able to run Shadow of the Colossus without major slowdown on the same rig I have today, I just played through it again on the newest beta version of PCSX2 and it ran near perfectly. They've come a long way in the last year, PS2 is just a bitch and a half to emulate. Remember how the PS3 had "the Cell" and thus nogames? PS2 kind of suffered from the same issue, retarded architecture with a lot of potential but extremely complex.
>>53828164
Except running PS2 games.
>>53827847
One is used by people who want to actually play their old games again and enjoy them. Other is used by angry CS dropouts so they can not have enough system resources to use it even with their i7 to "properly" emulate early 1980s consumer hardware so they can keep their nostalgia a memory and not have to actually play the game again.
>>53829342
Exactly.
>>53829381
looks like a chinese mmo from the mid 2000's
>>53829381
It's always jarring as fuck to see high resolution textures and really aliased text
>>53829403
Both PCSX2 and Dolphin have made great strides in recent years, despite having very different goals. Dolphin's dedication to accuracy is nice, but PCSX2's hacky, user experience approach results in lower hardware requirements.
>>53829440
Well that's because FFXII is a Japanese MMOff from the mid-2000s desu senpai.
>>53827922
>>53827838
>>53827694
Nah, you don't understand. Okay, stop the game and take a screenshot. Stop playing it and enjoying it for a moment. See that pixel on the character's face on the edge of him? That one little pixel.
>Wait for it.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ONE SHADE LIGHTER.
>Earth explodes, another one is put in its place, so it can explode too, and this repeats for 1000 years.
Y'all normie plebs ignoring huge details and shit, you're basically playing a different game.
>90% of SMW hacks rely on glitches that only work on zsnes
Harooooooooughhhhhaloojojijijijiji, nauuuuuuoooooooooooughhhhhhh, im so faaaaaaaaaaaaat
>>53825909
been playing ps2 emulated games since at least 2009.
Anon should make sure his google searches don't date from 2004
You have a whole board for this shit already
>>>/v/
sega
>>53829586
Emulators are technology.
>>>/b/
>>53829739
My fat ass is technology too, yet I don't post it around here
>>53829481
>ONE SHADE LIGHTER
>>53826052
Ebin trolle!!!
>>53830259
When you actually post the "differences" seen on "muh accuracy" emulators touting why you should switch, it's easy to see who the autist is. My personal favorite
>The emulation runs at 60FPS. Meanwhile the original game runs at 30FPS. There is no difference in speed or timing, the emulator does it perfectly at 60 and the ingame events happen as if they were 30 as only the graphics are 60. However this isn't better and it should be 30 because I'm a fucking piece of shit.
Seeing as someone has made a GBA emulator in fucking PHP (with pretty decent performance), I don't think we are _ever_ going to have trouble emulating anything whatsoever.
https://github.com/gabrielrcouto/php-terminal-gameboy-emulator
>>53829772
please do
how do you hack a ps2 to load game isos off a hard drive?
>>53831043
u need the network adapter it has an IDE hard drive port inside
then u need an old ide hard drive (most WD dont work, I use hitatchi deskstar 130gb)
then u need freemcboot loaded onto a memory card
u boot from the card and use a third party HDD loader to load the games
there is literally thousands of youtube videos on how to do it
>>53831043
FreeMcBoot
>>53831043
People will say freemcboot or whatever. But a boot dvd works as well.
>>53831196
Shut the fuck up
You don't know anything
>>53827974
>Some hardware-perfect implementations emulate the individual transistors
that sounds retarded
i can see how other details like signal runtime(how long the signal takes to travel from the CPU to the GPU) might matter occasionally but simulating every transistor seems like a waste
>>53831224
Omg your a doodoohead
>>53831138
whats the biggest HDD the Ps2's bios will read?
>>53825909
>tfw play FFX and FFXII on my 4770k and 280X supersampled at 1080p flawlessly
OP sucks cock for a living baka
But on the note of this thread:
When I try emulating Ratchet and Clank 3, it returns in odd texture glitches. Yes, this can be resolved by going into software mode, but it makes it so slow! Is there any way I can play this without either buying another PS2 and R&C3, or going into software mode making it unplayably slow?
i dont know man. dark cloud is running pretty comfy here
>>53831138
and this is only for the old fat ps2 and network adapter right
how the fuck do you get a ps2 that won't die 3 months down the road
>>53831334
Wat
Not him but you can load games from network, is actually faster and you don't need to buy shit.
>>53831299
I dont think there is a cap
IDE hard drives didnt get that big anyway i think 750gb some were 1tb
the ps2 isnt really picky about the type of hard drive
I said avoid WD because the ide connector and power plugs dont line up with the network adapter
>>53831380
teach me your ways good wizard
>mfw litterally every game (10+) I looked up to maybe emulate on pcsx2 has major issues
>>53831380
>is actually faster
It isn't
loading games from a hard disk is the fastest you will get
>>53831303
You don't even need anything anywhere near that powerful. I switched from a 4790K to a Phenom II recently, left all my emulator settings the same and literally nothing changed in terms of performance, even in the most demanding games like Xenoblade Chronicles on Dolphin.
It sure wasn't always that way, because back when I had a Phenom II years ago it struggled massively with both PCSX2 and Dolphin in certain titles (Xenosaga for one).
>>53831416
Name some, friend.
>>53827925
>no game runs better than original hardware
Except the frame rate would disagree with you even with emulators applying graphical filters to make it look better.
>tfw I figured out how to do this back in the day
Not all games are compatible but most are you may have to used different loaders for certain games and with certain options turned on but its pretty cool shit if u got an old fat ps2 around
>>53827406
>3. Emulating any hardware by NVIDIA is not a walk in the park! The Xbox's GPU, the NV2A is often assumed just a GeForce 3. It's not! It's similar but not identical. It has some GeForce 4 capabilities too, so it's more of a cross between an NV20 and NV25. This is by no means easy to emulate either. NVIDIA's GPUs have very large register sets and afaik not even half of them have been discovered, and a large portion of known registers have unknown purposes. There is little to no documentation on how NVIDIA GPUs work. The best thing to do is to look at similar GPUs such as RIVA, TNT, and older GeForce cards. Some registers are similar, but not identical. The best place to look for information is in open source drivers available on the net. Adding to the dificulty is that no one has ever discovered how pixel shaders work on NV2x cards, vertex shaders yes though. The Xbox GPU also has exclusive registers that are not found in other GeForce cards. Information on the NV2A's GPU registers are just now beginning to be discovered a few months ago. And yet, there's still a long way to go. The GeForce 3 series is the most mysterious of all NVIDIA GPUs (G7x and G8x aside) and the NV2A is alot worse. "But can't you just directly execute the NV2A instructions on another NVIDIA card?". No, I get alot of questions concerning this, and it is impossible. It's MMIO addresses are different and the exclusive registers must be emulated. Plus, in windows, we don't have ring 0 access anyway, so you all can scratch that idea now. Then comes the NForce 2 chipset. This is where it get easier. The NVIDIA MCPX is the control center for things such as audio, USB for input, Network adapters, PCI, AGP, etc. These things are not really that difficult to emulate IMO except for the audio.
>>53831512
Only thing I had on my PS2s HDD was Linux.
Fun times.
>>53831457
All ratchet and clank games suffer from the same problem which is huge, texture dumping. I tried it out while trying to ignore it but it's too much to ignore.
All jak games suffer major problems.
Lord of the Rings: the Two Towers.
Crash tag team racing.
Tony Hawk's Underground.
I'm wondering if it can actually emulate anything by now.
[spoiler]thought i was some exagerating fag did ya?[/spoiler]
>>53831313
>When I try emulating Ratchet and Clank 3, it returns in odd texture glitches. Yes, this can be resolved by going into software mode, but it makes it so slow! Is there any way I can play this without either buying another PS2 and R&C3, or going into software mode making it unplayably slow?
http://wiki.pcsx2.net/index.php/Ratchet_%26_Clank:_Up_Your_Arsenal
checks the forums too use the settings, and you going to need a beefy pc to play the game through.
>>53831568
You are some fag exaggerating though. Almost every issue listed also has a workaround listed, or is something incredibly minor. Not to mention that the wiki is often incredibly out of date, citing issues that have long-since been solved. Most of the latest tests are from version 1.1.0 at best, and it's currently on version 1.5.0.
How about instead of being a dumb little cuck who expects emulation to be perfect, you spend some time tweaking settings, or just buy a fucking PS2 if that's much effort for you.
>>53826254
I can play GT3 A-spec with no dedicated GPU. It looks like shit but the game itself is very fun and it even works with my Logitech G27.
>>53826407
WHY WON'T THEY PORT FORZA, FUCK
>>53826470
>Dinosaur Hunting
>JSRF
>N.U.D.E
>Phantom Crash
>Phantom Dust
>Steel Battalion
>Thousand Land (pvp populous from From Software)
Take a walk down the list on wikipedia and you can see that it would be worth for these alone.
>>53826879
Drive emulation is becoming the mode of choice for console modders, though that's hardware modding the console for use by the console.
>>53831043
>>53831138
>>53831334
You can get old network adapter shells that were hacked together to read SATA drives directly. You miss out on being able to stream games over SMB and having easy access to the drive over FTP.
There are also IDE to SATA adapters if you want to use the network adapter with a SATA drive. It's a bit of a bitch in any case to play PS2 games off the drive, compared to the xbox. It's a lot more touchy.
>>53831387
Cap is set by the formatter.. HD Loader supports a 48 bit patch, so you can go to 2TB(?). Just be aware that the other ELFs will need to also be 48 bit, similar to 32 bit vs 64 bit computer programs.
>>53831568
Just get the HD packs, they're cheap as hell.
>>53826292
Not him but playing that right now. Right at the end. Too lazy to beat it though.
>>53831725
I already 95% of those games. I'd just like to play them with a ps4 controller cause it's a lot better than my half broken ps2 ones.
I played 2 ratchet and clank games, the workaround makes it run like shit, and i'm using the latest version.
Stop defending this crappy emulator with retarded arguments like "you're a cuck who expects emulation to be perfect". Dolphin does it, PPSSPP does it, pretty much every hand held emulator does it, there's multiple ps1 emulators that work flawlessly.
There's no reason for ps2 emulation to be this behind on all the others.
>>53826147
Bro pcsx2 literally RENDERS the game in 5k if your pc can handle it
>Xbox emulation will never be a thing
>>53831897
play on 360
>>53831905
Few of the games worth playing work, if correctly, on the 360... and then you need to deal with RROD.
Enjoy not playing the Jap games.
>>53831705
Thanks! I've already used software mode and am going to get a CPU cooler for my Xeon E5-2667 V3 (ES) soon, hope I can utilise the extra rendering threads! At the moment, I'm stuck with an i3-4170. Must be why it ran so slow >.<
>>53831905
>Thousand Land
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3cwDaJmqU
>Metal Wolf Chaos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trmPZScztok
>>53829288
>>>/reddit/
>"waaaah no emulation for ps2"
>can literally buy a ps2 with 20 games for less than a pack of smokes
>the games are so cheap that people are literally giving them away
>>53826310
implying online was ever a thing on the PS2. none of the original consoles had ethernet and nearly nobody bought the it as an accessory.
xqemu looks good. Might be ready in 10 years.
>http://xqemu.com/
>>53826052
Ace Combat 5 doesn't work. Jak 3 has a few issues during the intro clip and in Haven. Timesplitters runs fine but has awful graphical bugs that make it unplayable. And those were just the few I tried. PS2 emulation is shit compared to other systems. I haven't even heard of an issue with PS1 or GB emulation if your drivers weren't fucked.
>>53831299
Just use IDE to SATA converter and put a 2.5" sata hdd in there. Even the shittiest 5400rpm will be fast enough for ps2.
Why doesn't Sony release an emulator? They would make a butt-load.
>>53832199
I don't want to play the shit games some retards played. I have only interest in like three games or so.
>>53826202
>being even newer
>>53828486
>i7 2600
Mah African.
wtf. how is this thread so big
>>53825909
Why not a PS# emulator?
>>53833504
Discussing console hardware, how to emulate and the challenges in doing so fall under the topics generally accepted in this board
why would I ever emulate a PS2 when games can be bought for mostly under 5 bucks
>>53827451
But you're still retarded.
>>53826126
>he doesn't get it
I wish PCXS2 would get on Dolphin's level really. Plugins in 2016? Fuck off with that nonsense.
Controller interface? Totally unacceptable in a world with Dolphin.
Dolphin spoiled the fuck out of me, it's just that much better.
>>53826252
Sony use the PCSX2 code to emulate PS2 games
>>53826252
Funny thing is, just a couple of years ago the conventional wisdom of PSP emulation was "don't". It was slow, buggy, and generally just not worthwhile.
It's amazing how much progress the PPSSPP devs made in such a small time frame.
>>53826537
God of War: Chains of Olympus
most other games are pretty shit
>>53826052
>Sure, with frame skipping and hacks.
I was playing Disgaea 1-2 and Gradius V back in 2006 or so on an Athlon 64 X2 and a x1950 Pro and it was running at full 60fps with only 1 single glitch in one of the cutscenes. I could even bump up the graphics to 1280x960.
Because only Gregory is working on PCSX2 & he spends most of his time trying to clean up Gabest's mess
GSDX is a piece of shit
>>53826052
>>53832778
>>53834646
Before we add even more replies to this post please keep in mind the version you use is a night and day difference. Newer versions are generally better but they can break random games. This doesn't make sense anywhere except emulators. There is no pattern to this. It will work for some 10 year old version, and not for the rest. There's a GBA emulator for the DS that's similar to this and even the project it's from was like "carry 4 versions around".
>PS4 and Xbone are literally pc's with closed software
>Still not hacked
>>53826791
wow we're so close
>>53825909
What are you on about? I get perfect framerates on pscx2 with a fucking 2 year old i5 lm
>>53826052
Sure thing pal
>>53826252
>>53834188
This is kind of unrelated, but is it possible to put psp roms onto an actual psp?
>>53835377
Heeeellllll yeahhhh niggga!
>>53835582
Cool, might buy one and do that, thanks
>>53835215
>PS4 and Xbone are literally pc's
quit being little bitches, I played through ratchet and clank 4 times with the glitchiness, you get used to it
>>53828186
There's a guy who maintains a project that emulates at component level older rare machines that were built with pure discrete circuitry, surely some even more hardcore guy will take it a step ahead one day
>>53831228
For pretty much any console made after the Atari 2600 is retarded, for the first consoles made solely with transistors and gates is the only way to emulate them, aside from re implementing them in modern paradigms
>PC does it better than the PS3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmt1iweCpfE
