Previous: >>53780412
Welcome to /fg/lt/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /fg+lt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
I'm so stupid. I've been compiling debian-sources on funtoo for an hour even though I already had it installed by default. ;-; Besides, I want a newer kernel than this anyway
help /flt/ gnome is kaput
Pretty much every other WM/DE works but GNOME, the one I want to use, just goes to a screen that says "Oh no something has gone wrong" with a logout button.
I've spent the better part of five hours trying to fix this but nothing works.
Arch Linux. What do?
My rxvt-unicode journey has ended. Once I was done, I realized that there were no gains or advantages over my old xfce4-terminal.
>had to manually compile and keep track of updates, so i can enable the custom icon option
>no difference in terms of space consumption or dependencies
>getting tab functionality either required using an additonal package (tmux) or settling for a slightly worse version
>getting the same visual glitch (prompt disappears at certain times)
/blog
>>53793949
>arch linux
Found your problem
So many broken packages in their repo..
>>53794005
That's what happens when you use what the other cool kids use just because it's popular.
>>53794022
Thanks for posting, but you didn't really help me.
Arch is actually the first distro I could even get to install on this machine. openSUSE, my usual go-to distro for trying out new stuff, couldn't even boot the installer.
>>53794051
That wasn't really the case. I thought it would fix that annoying disappearing prompt issue.
Is it common for people to run hosting companies from their home/garage?
>>53794022
Memers are not allowed here.
>>53794082
>I thought it would fix that annoying disappearing prompt issue.
Tell me more about your problem. What happens exactly?
>>53794171
The PS1 prompt just disappears and the whole thing becomes black. I think it's a known bug, because I've seen other people complain about it too. No solutions though.
It happens when I unmaximize the window after it was maximized. It's not a big issue, since I just have to start typing for the prompt to appear again.
How can I install debian if I need the nonfree firmware to connect to the repos and install the nonfree firmware? Could I install with the nonfree firmware netinst, and then use a debian live cd to chroot in and install linux-firmware-nonfree?? Does it work that way?
>>53793949
Well after about five hours of trying to fix it I finally got it.
Turns out that it actually WAS a driver issue. Xrandr was only seeing my intel chip but installing and setting up Bumblebee to work with both xf86-video-intel and nvidia caused everything to magically start working.
Fucking Arch, always coming around in the end. God I love this distro.
>>53794116
no, not really
like with everything, providing hosting services gets cheaper the more of them you're able to provide.
how many machines you got?
how good connection youre able to get to your house/garage?
>>53794226
put the firmware on a usb drive
>>53794223
Mh, check out these settings:
shopt -s checkwinsize
so it redraws at every resizing
and
stty -ixon
stty -ixoff
to disable ^s/^q
My 2 cents.
>>53794285
If you're using bash or anything with readline, the stty stuff isn't necessary. readline does it by itself.
asked in sqt and didn't get a reply so I'll try here
thinking about gibing lxqt a go, is there an lxqt meta package that pulls everything I need or do I need to piece it together?
>>53794352sudo pacman -S lxqtwill give you everything you need.
>>53794371
sweet, I'll do that if I go back to arch, but right now I'm giving debian a shot, does debian have a metapackage?
>>53794352
>>53794371
How do you know he's using Arch? How are people supposed to answer him if they don't even know which distribution he's using.
>>53794401
He didn't specify so I just assumed he was using the same thing I was using.
>>53794401
I thought metapackages were generally available across distro bases, like gnome-full etc...
anyways I'm on debian right now
>>53794429
Arch has groups. I think Gentoo does as well. openSUSE has groups but I don't think they're called that.
>mfw pulseaudio lowers the volume of music playback (mpd+gmpc) when I open another audio source (like a video file) automatically and restores the previous volume level when the 2nd audio source ends
oh god.
for how long this has been a feature?
how come I never noticed it?
Did you know, ImageMagick can do polaroids.convert -bordercolor white -background black -polaroid 5 +repage 1459458275714.jpg out.png
Next to your mother, of course.
>>53794627
very cute and sex anon
I have a 5-7 years old dell inspiron, I will use it to learn about how to use the terminal, programing, security...
Any suggestions about what distro should I use?
I have used Ubuntu/mint with different desktops for these 5-7 years.
random pic
What can I do with Fedora?
>>53794618
isn't this feature called "flat volumes"?
and it's disabled by default on most distros
I only knew about it when I installed pulseaudio on gentoo
>>53794618
The idea of corking isn't bad but in practice it often doesn't turn out so well. It's been there for a long time, you just haven't had applications triggering it before.
If you ever start to find it annoying, search for cork in your pulse config and comment it out.
>>53794717
tip it
>>53794717
kernel development
>>53794728
>>53794729
>I only knew about it when I installed pulseaudio on gentoo
>The idea of corking isn't bad but in practice it often doesn't turn out so well. It's been there for a long time, you just haven't had applications triggering it before.
i've been using mpv on fedora for quite some time, noticed it just now.
maybe i didn't pay enough attention to it.
>If you ever start to find it annoying, search for cork in your pulse config and comment it out.
much appreciated, I hope I won't have to use that tip.
For what I've seen now it works mint.
> Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
> Font pasta:
General informations:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fonts
Huge list of font resources:
https://github.com/brabadu/awesome-fonts
List of monospaced fonts for programming:
https://github.com/chrissimpkins/codeface
List of monospaced bitmap fonts for programming:
https://github.com/Tecate/bitmap-fonts
You may also need to enable bitmap fonts and rebuild the font cache:rm -v /etc/fonts/conf.d/70-no-bitmaps.conf
ln -s ../conf.avail/70-yes-bitmaps.conf .
fc-cache -v -f
Fonts patched with shitloads of icon glyphs:
https://github.com/ryanoasis/nerd-fonts
The Ultimate Oldschool PC Font Pack:
http://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/
Premade fontconfigs:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality
Configure your own fontconfig:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
Read the documentation:
file:///usr/share/doc/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html
>>53794906
Once you fell for the bitmap fonts meme, all true type fonts just look blurry.
Once you go bit, you never quit.
>>53794739
legit kek
not >>53794717 here
for real tho, i've been using ubuntuMATE for a while now but i think i want to try debian. will it feel different?
>>53795033
>>>/facebook/
alternativly
>>>/kindergarten/
now that linux is on windows can I just do all the linux things without needing to dual boot?
also what desktop environment from linux transitions the best over to windows?
>>53794627
>>53795078
read the article again friend
>>53795078
Linux isn't on Windows. You got meme'd by tech illiterates you can't distinguish between a kernel and a shell.
>>53795097
Well, this didn't came out like I wanted it.
>>53795132
Ahhh, I forgot transparency.. I'm an idiot.
I'm going to install Fedora since it's easier with my hardware. Is it still very unstable like it was a few years ago? I remember it being pretty bad in 2004 compared to debian.
>>53795283
>I remember it being pretty bad in 2004 compared to debian
fedora started in 2003, of course you would have had troubles
>>53794739
What does Linus use? His own Linux from scratch or some distro?
>>53795368
I think he uses Fedora.
>>53795368
Linus is using Fedora, like the cuck he is.
>>53795283
Fedora in recent years is a lot nicer. They finally made a conscious decision to avoid making changes after a release has launched that might mess things up for the desktop user.
>>53794627
What have you done ...
>>53795432
>no fun allowed
Well the netboot installation was so small it didn't have the drivers for my disks. Had to switch to a usb instead.
>>53795368
fedora
>>53795396
Why does that make him a cuck? At least he doesn't use canonical. Redhat is a much nicer company.
>>53795534
prepare for shillstorm anon
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>>53795534
blah blah blah NSA, blah blah blah Gnome3, blah blah blah SystemD, blah blah blah
>emerge -av chromium
>600 MB
>emerge -av google-chrome
>200 MB
So is there any reason to take chromium over chrome? It seems like it's a bloated heap of shit.
>>53795534
/g/ calls him a cuck because it irritates their delicate sense of freedom that he won't knuckle under and call it gnu/linux and credit stallman for his minor and now irrelevant contribution
here's an embarrassing story, i wanted to install debian on my laptop but it was giving me trouble about nonfree binary drivers. at the time i didnt know what to do here so i installed Ubuntu unity.
If I want to temporary increase the font size of my terminal how should I do it?
I don't want it permanent, just a simple command to increase xterm font size for whenever I play dungeon crawl.
>>53795743
nice blog post
You should use whatever you want, be free buddy. Ignore people that look down on you for using obanto.
Unity is shit tho, prefer MATE or Cinnamon
How do I get my browser to use a non-shit font, I've messed with just about every setting related to fonts in my browser and it hasn't done shit
>>53795913
what browser are you using anon?
>>53795933
Opera
>>53795913
You need to look up fontconfig
>>53795878
xterm? no way without rewriting xresource
modern terminals can resize on the fly
>>53795878
There's always the lazy can't-be-bothered-to-think solution of having a different terminal for that specific task.
>>53795878
ctrl+left click, looks choppy though
>>53795971
>>53796005
Well, I think I may use another terminal. But I though it could be done.
>>53795906
yeah i moved on to xubuntu and have a separate machine with debian
>>53796027
>left
right
>>53795959
Thanks, I don't want to gouge my eyes out anymore
>>53796027
>>53796048
I knew it can! Thanks!
I need a distro that is not fussy about hardware That oesn't avoid firmware because of "freedom", and is not arch linux.
>>53796359
Ubuntu
If I go dual boot - can I watch let's say movies from other partition or write files there?
>>53796410
This.
>>53796437
Yes, ntfs-3g
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, Windows/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Windows plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Windows system made useful by the NT corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by Microsoft. Many computer users run a modified version of the Windows system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Windows which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Windows system, developed by Microsoft. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. NT is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the Windows operating system: the whole system is basically Windows with Linux added, or Windows/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of Windows/Linux.
>>53796410
Is the 16.04 version ready to use? Seems kind of silly to install the old one if I have to replace it in a month.
>>53795878
What's the name of the package for that game? I can't fucking find it anywhere.
Hi all, I need some help and am new to debian.
I need some firmware that's non-free, but don't want to go through the trouble of re-installing the whole OS, just to get some drivers. I'm rather new, so I was wondering if there was anything I could run to get these drivers from an image, and maybe some technical explanation of how it works.
I've been in the windows world for a while now, and I'd love to give debian a try.
Thanks!
>>53796492
On debian/ubuntu repositories is "crawl". You can also try:
gearhead
nethack-console
angband
>>53796492
>>53795878
Nevermind, found it.
>>53796492
You can also try stone-soup if you're not a nerd
>>53796475
Not ready but the final beta was locked - for the final release they only have to lock down kernel version so pretty much everything else stays the same.
I am running latest beta right now.
>>53795709
>there are people this dumb using gentoo
how?
>>53796540
Or Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead if you are.
Why does Arch freeze/lock after my lid stays closed for more than 1 hour?
What am I supposed to do when this happens/how can I stop this from happening?
Anyone managed to use office 2016?
Can it run trough Wine or other software?
>>53796592
Why would you do that when you could install Nethack and be Stevey, the chaotic male human wizard?
VM is best for a uni student who needs to use Office and Linux?
Would Wine be better?
>>53796612
To be a godlike bionic mutant?
>>53796596
>Arch
Found your problem.
>>53796556
Is the unity one the only one that is in final beta? It seems ubuntu gnome is only "beta 2".
Which do you use?
>>53796628
Nah, man. Wizards are where it's at.
>>53796596
udev rules
>>53796664
Finally someone gives me an answer.
Thanks, I'm going to check that out.
is ubuntu a botnet, is it worth it to switch over? I have arch isntalled, it's pretty awesome including the AUR, but I always feel like I have a franken OS that will break if I try to do anything major with it, my dotfiles all seem to be a fucking mess, Is
>>53796717
>botnet
>>53796717
>dot files
Make a new config and copy over what you use.If it has 100 configs commented but you only use 15 configs, why have the garbage
>frankinstein
If you're that worried check the front page for critical updates. Even more worried you can check the mailing list.
>backup
Make a backup of your install as it sits right now,and make that your default install.Throw it on an usb drive or external
use dd or rsync to preserve user/group/permissions/symlinks
>>53796654
THe unity one, they tweaked it up really good - it's a enjoyable look that has everything for now - my second choice would be gnome 3.20 but since they polish UNity and since the most user base is on unity I'll stick with it for now.
>>53796717
Switch over only if you want the best stability. But no, in general people start from ubuntu to other distros.
>>53796774
Cool, thanks. Will it automatically update on April 21st? or do I need to run dist-upgrade or something when the final release comes?
>>53796749
well with all this microsoft partnership and the whole amazon fiasco, might as well ask
>>53796756
that's true, it works for me now but I just feel like my whole arch install is and always will be really sloppy
>>53796786
How's does the amount of software on ubuntu compare to arch and the AUR? Doesn't ubuntu rival the AUR pretty closely in terms of software?
>>53796806
It won't happen without your explicit input. That's the beauty of it all.
>>53796847
Whats sloppy? Its straight foreward in the install guide,and minus arch specific chroot,you do the setup on any distro.
If it feels sloppy, its something you did, which you can go back "clean up"
I am doing a file copy and my cpu usage is getting raped. Is this normal on Kubuntu? Should I change my DE ?
>>53796895
real time kernel
bfs
bfq
>>53796895
Use cp or rsync for copying.
>>53796895
>I am doing a file copy and my cpu usage is getting raped
By what exactly?
>>53796847
Ubuntu have more packages in the last count I know of, more than the aur.
Don't worry about the fiasco, clearly Microsoft knows more about marketing than Canonical because this was clearly to harm Canonical in the upcoming 16.04 version. Expect a shitstorm against Canonical from Microsoft telemarketers.
>>53796474
It's GNU/Windows idiot.
>>53796940
Plasma shell
> 42 %
I have an i7 haswell
>>53796921
Yeah, should try that. It was a fucking 300 gb folder
>>53796910
Oh. It can be. I did installed this shit distro because "muh comfy just werks". Also I couldn't make the ethernet work on OpenSuse Leap. ??. This hardware is weird
>>53797032
What?
those are things you need to look in to, to help your responsiveness when you're doing heavy io
>>53797032
>300 gb folder
rsync
>>53797030
the joke
you
Can anyone vouch for how secure GNU/Linux's standard Unzip utility's encryption is on GNU/Linux?
I would use GPG for important information, of course. Sorry for how this is worded.
What's the difference between GNU, Linux and Unix?
What's the joke about it being GNU/Linux and not just Linux about?
Stupid question: I've been messing around with trying to get Manjaro to work and could not for the life of me get the graphics drivers to work (I will try again in the future, maybe this weekend). I had a working Mint install and just formated the root partition and replaced it with Manjaro Cinnamon. My concern is now that I have yet again formated my root partition and put Mint back, is it possible some config files in my home partition could cause issues in the future because changes were made by the Manjaro install, or am I just being paranoid?
Also is it even worth changing to Manjaro? I've been using *buntus and Ubuntu derivatives on and off for a few years now and have had no problems with them.
>>53797158
>What's the joke about it being GNU/Linux and not just Linux about?
And so the storm was unleashed.
In all seriousness, Linux is a sort of clone to UNIX.
>>53797158
Unix: Linux is too devolved to be considered Unix
gnu:A man in his 40's thought he was a big part of the internet world, and wanted to claim another mans work for 30 years, he of course had the minority vocal 1% support,so the joke became from this mans inability to produce anything in 30 years time, other then sucking the credit from Linus
Linux: The name Linus(the creator of Linux) decided to name is program.
>>53797032
Seems like a bug, check the KDE subforums of your distro or something
>>53797032
this
>>53797074
A large transfer could take a very long time, and if you're using cp and it fails for one reason or another it sucks.
>>53797220
Besides the GPL what has Richard done for the project? Also I found it kind of odd when I saw a webm of him saying he has never installed a GNU/Linux system even though he takes credit for GNU.
I'm gonna install arch this week end.
I had a few questions about the DE and WM.
>Right now is it possible to get a WM or DE running with wayland ? or is it too soon yet ?
>Is there a WM easily customizable ? I don't want to spent 2 or 3 hours on it.
>is there a DE that permits me to run commands directly like awesome ?
>>53797302
He uses.wait for it, OSX
All he does is make frivilous lawsuits against the BIG BLUES of the industry when he dosent like what they did (WAAAAAAAA). He likes to go to colleges to circle jerk and sell merch.
>>53797361
For your second question, i3 has great documentation and is very easy to configure
>>53797128
> zipcloak uses original zip encryption which is considered weak.
From man zipcloak which man zip pointed to.
>>53797378
Okay, thanks.
>>53797361
1. Yeah, absolutely. GNOME works great on Wayland (often even better than X). There's also a few meme WMs that try to be special snowflakes, and a couple i3 clones.
2. Depends on whether or not you find GNOME easily customizable.
3. What do you mean "run commands directly?" Awesome has Mod+R, which is deprecated, and Mod+P which is just dbus with some intelligent filtering. Unless you're referring to something I don't know about.
>>53797361
>wayland
Wayland is shit and you dont need to mess with it. It has its own wm's that you have to use.
>easy cust
It depends on your needs to customize.
>directly
You want a launcher(dmenu2)
>>53797375
i3 isn't on Wayland natively yet. There's clones but lol.
>>53797160
If you're trying to compare number of packages, this is a wrong way to do it
>>53793842
i don't understand why these threads are popular
obvs, everyone here uses linux
what do you guys even discuss?
>>53797420
Doing things in linux
>>53797128
>>53797378
Apparantly 7zip is good though http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/12267/good-file-encryption-tools
>>53797420
We like to hang out, holding hands and all.
>>53797394
>1. Yeah, absolutely. GNOME works great on Wayland (often even better than X). There's also a few meme WMs that try to be special snowflakes, and a couple i3 clones.
didn't KDE have a wayland support too ?
2. Depends on whether or not you find GNOME easily customizable.
For this part I was really thinking of a WM. I find it stupid to be forced modifying lua scripts and learning a whole API to achieve what you want to do, or having to look on the internet for other users scripts.
You end having something confy, but not worth the time spending on it for me.
>3.
If I can remember correctly when I used awesome, there was a bar which could run programs directly, with autocompletion. It was a pretty.
>>53797420
>what do you guys even discuss?
Read the thread retard
>>53797160$ grep Package\: /var/lib/apt/lists/http.debian.net_debian_dists_testing_*amd64_Packages | wc -l
49253
>>53797180
Bump. Really curious whether switching to Manjaro is worth it or not.
>>53797404
>Wayland is shit
Explain
>>53797496
wasn't systemd a dependency for wayland?
>>53797476
1. I think so, yeah. I've only ever used GNOME, Weston, and one of those i3 clones though so I didn't want to get your hopes up.
2. If you found Awesome too intensive, you're not really going to find anything that's easy but also configurable.
3. Yeah that's Mod+P, which is literally just dmenu2 combined with the mainmenu applications. You can easily get that in any DE/WM but manually setting a keystroke combination to launch dmenu2.
I'm installing ubuntu right now. What to expect?
>>53797413
I wanted to give wayland a try if it was ready, but I want to find a new WM or DE to spend time on. I've been using cinnamon for a while now.
>>53797507
Yep - and Wayland is a dependency of GTK3.
Linux is a wonderful thing, ain't it.
>>53797527
Windows
>>53797533
Try out GNOME. It's heavily reliant on xorg-xwayland but going full wayland right now is basically like trying to install GNU Hurd.
I THINK there's also an xmonad clone if you want to learn Haskell.
Greetings /g/ents, anyway i could install windows or some linux distro on this thing? Kindle fire hd.
>>53797507
And? Don't tell me you are one of those sysvinit hipsters
>>53797544
well shit, then I'm going with mir
>>53797496
its a FORCED dep since lennert got his way.
Its dog shit
>Wayland is a new windowing protocol for Linux. Utilization of Wayland requires changes to and re-installation of parts of your system's software.
>https://wayland.freedesktop.org/screenshots.html
>>53797584
>mir
lol
>>53797580
I shouldnt have to install software I WILL NEVER FUCKING USE EVER,on MY computer
>>53795097
sauce on girll?
and also, post og pic
>>53797577
It's ARM, right?
Time to install Arch ARM!
>>53797580
>>53797612
Out of my thread.
>>53797599
Still waiting for a valid reason. There is no good alternative to systemd.
>>53797621
>I don't want to have gtk in my system
>But I'll use gimp
retard
>>53797660
>doesn't want to use systemd
>wants to use an ubuntu-exclusive window manager
lol
>>53797660
I've been here long before /flt/ existed. Get out, newfag
Remember:
Ignore Microsoft/anti-Linux trolls.
Ignore BSD/anti-GNU trolls.
Ignore anti-OpenRC/anti-Upstart/anti-Mir trolls.
Mark them as bait. You are invited to share/create copypasta to prevent doubts they create.
>>53797665
>There is no good alternative to systemd.
lol
>>53797507
>>53797580
>>53797599
>>53797676
Just a simple question :
What the fuck systemd have to do with a display manager ?
I am waiting for Plasma/Wayland to thoroughly extinguish GNOME/X11
Do people who hate SystemD actually know why they hate it or are they just band-wagoning? It seems that way.
bait intensifies.jpg
why do people use .gz
isn't .xz better?
>>53797577
Gais? :s
>>53797665
>Gentoo
>openrc
>other distros
GTK does NOT need wayland to draw
It is not being used at all. I dont use a KMS system ,meaning even if it BROKE OUT ROGUE it would NOT work
When i install GIMP i am accepting that i want the programs installed to allow me to use it.
Having to have gtk installed makes sens and this is a weak basless claim
>>53797713
You HAVE to use different WM/DE is you use wayland. Other programs(gtk,mesa) REQUIRE WAYLAND AND YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT
>>53797742
>bandwagon
>pic related
>>53797710
XD
Name some. There are reasons why autists at debian, ubuntu, fedora and Arch adopted to systemd
It's almost like the time when Lennart introduced UUID and a few pathetic crybabbies started killing themselves
>>53797761
I just tar everything and then don't even bother compressing it further.
For simple stuff (anything without an actual directory tree within it) 7z is much, much better than either anyway.
>>53797727
This
>>53797786
OpenRC is nice. I've also had nothing but good experiences with Shepherd.
>>53797786
systemd is not what it orginally claimed to be.
It is usurping EVERY part of the system, turning it in to the Systemd OS TM
>>53797803
how much better?
i feel compelled to use tar.xz for everything because I bothered to read tha man page for it
>>53797695
>microsoft trolls
>>53796517
Yeah, I actually was looking for help, not trying to be a dick. Kinda thought /flt/ was about helping people use GNU/linux, which is something I'm very interested in doing, because
>basic shitposting laptop
>with calender/planner on second monitor
Sounds kinda nice. But you know, using linux for anything other than just using linux is too much I guess.
>>53797847
Like, better enough to justify using it over xz for single/groups of files.
>>53797784
>You HAVE to use different WM/DE is you use wayland. Other programs(gtk,mesa) REQUIRE WAYLAND AND YOU CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT
and ? what's the link between GUI stuff and systemd ?
>>53797830
>>53797837
Guys, this "anon" doesn't care about your opinion. Don't think he is going to stop if you reply nicely.
See the other posts, he is samefagging.
>>53797874
>what's the link between GUI stuff and systemd ?
you are new, aren't you?
>>53797420
because it's the unique thread talking about /g/ without too much shitposting.
>>53797886
>you are new, aren't you?
yep. Can you explain me sempai ?
How hard would ti be to make ubuntu look like mac osx? Mac is so sexy.
>>53797959
Just install Elementary OS and you've got a Mac clone out of the box.
So, like, majority of my co-workers at my new job are using some distro of Linux. It's an android/iOS app development company. They don't care what OS we use, unless you're on the iOS team in which case they prefer you to at least have your own macbook.
Right now I'm running Windows 10. I'm not overly attached to it and all I do is code and play TF2. Is linux (any distro) inherently better to code with for app development?
>>53797959
PearOS, if its still around
>>53798096
Every Linux distro is light years ahead of Windows in terms of development.
So much so that it doesn't really matter what distro you use because for the most part the software they run is the same. I'd just stick with openSUSE at first.
Is making an auto install script hard to do? Have any of you done something similar in bash? I mean in any distro.
>>53798133
It depends on what do you want to achieve
>>53798133
It isn't really that hard to do if you know exactly what you're doing.
Tweaking it for specific use cases, now THAT is hard. Basically it's only ever useful if you're installing one operating system on identical systems multiple times a years.
>>53798165
>>53798166
Base install, full desktop install, any tip would work. I wan to know how to do it, not just a spoonfed script.
What should I need to know?
>>53798121
I've only used linux twice in my lifetime.
I used Backtrack to hack into my school's network and Puppy dog linux when my HDD's boot sector got fried and needed to backup my files.
So, ultimately, I'm not very familiar with it. I guess consult the wiki?
Installed xubuntu 14.04 on my laptop and when i click shut down it goes to pic related and hangs. I've tried it with ubuntu and it does the same thing but it shuts down properly when tried debian. Does anyone know a solution to this? Its a big problem for me and any help would be appreciated. Thanks
>>53798199
It depends if you want to have it as a backup or propagate it to multiple machines, how different those machines are, etc.
In easiest case you just make a disk image of your root partition (or a tarball)
>>53798237
Actually, Debian 8 used to have that problem. It was an issue pertaining to SysD. I'm not sure if that's the case here but it could be.
Good evening gentoomen
I have a win7 on a ssd. I want to install Debian on my hdd. How would I set up the GRUB not to interfere with the windows/ssd boot process. I want to boot directly from my hdd into debian from the uefi.
>>53798237
14.04 is deprecated, 16.04 (the next LTS) comes out in less than a month. Use at least 15.10. 14.04 is very old. I'm sure that problem is fixed in newer versions.
>>53798322
Just make sure the ssd is first in your load order in the bios.
>>53798322
Just don't install GRUB.
To those upgrading from Ubuntu 15.10 to 16.04, how are you going to do it? A lot seem to suggest a fresh install, which is what I might do.
>>53798338
>>53798285
I'll just wait for 16 then. Thanks anons
>>53798300
Good evening anon.
>>53798384
You can install it right now if you want. That's what I did. It's pretty much done.
>>53798413
Do I just get beta 2 or is there a newer beta i can find somewhere
>>53798505
Yes. The regular ubuntu is newer though.
Anyone used avlinux here? I saw there was a new release out and it has me interested.
How is it for regular desktop use? I know it would be great for audio production but I would also be using it as a general machine as well.
>>53797577
Halp
rtorrent keeps telling me to turn on safe_sync even though it doesn't exist, wat do
>trying to learn about the Linux kernel, but you all keep distracting me
fuck y'all
>>53799309
Did you look at this?
http://blar.net/kurt/blog/2012/root-your-kindle-fire-using-linux/
Sorry I can't give any other help, but I've never done something like this
How do I grep something so when I do:>something | grep "Word"
> Word is a word and so is elephant
I get:>something | grep "Word" | some_command "elephant"
> elephant
?
>>53799690something | grep "Word" | rev | cut -d' ' -f1 | rev | xargs some_command
>>53799690
What? If you want something from a pipe to become a parameter use xargs. Otherwise clarify.
>>53799690
I really don't know what you're trying to say
>>53799718
>>53799732
>>53799782
I was trying to ignore the rest of the line and only print the last thing. What I'm parsing to grep is consistent so I only had to do:something | grep "Word" | rev | cut -b 20-
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear.
Is opensuse good? which version should I use, tumbleweed or leap?
>>53799838awk '/Word/ {print $NF}'
>>53799888
What if I want to print two words in the middle or the last three?
>>53799947
awk for loop
So, I'm trying to use some python packages, and my python configuration seems to be completely sideways.
So, is there a way in Mint for me to uninstall (with both pip and apt-get) whatever shit I have installed and then install everything from just apt-get?
I upgraded my distro on ubtunu to install Steam and it broke everything.
Anyway to fix this?
Getting the low graphics mode thing but my mouse driver isnt working.
>>53800581
You have to be more specific. If it's only steam that's "broken" it's because you have to delete some files or it won't launch, because steam ships with outdated C++ libraries. Google is your friend.
How can I make ncmpcpp always select the track that's playing? I know you can press o in the playlist but I want to automate that.
>>53800744
I had to update distro to install steam and now nothing will boot.
My video card drivers crash and I cant even start low graphics mode.
I dont knkw what else to say. Ubuntu 14.0.4?
>mfw I created OP's pic years ago in gimp when /g/ was my main board
>>53800831
nevermind I think I found the option in the config withjump_to_now_playing_at_start
Does anyone here use GNOME? I'm looking for some nice shell extensions, user themes, etc etc that you may have found. Brand new install of Unstable so it's a clean slate.
I asked over by the desktop thread but they were of no help
>>53801128
try arc theme and paper icons
>>53801128
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/118/no-topleft-hot-corner/
So I installed Tumbleweed and it turns out I have the same problem as I did with Manjaro. Whenever I unplug and plug my laptop back in my keyboard and mouse becomes unresponsive... I can still move the mouse around but buttons do not work so I cant click anything. Also it seems that I can turn on the thinklight and change screen brightness with the Fn key. Does anybody have an idea of what is going on or where to even start to try to troubleshoot this?
Im going to reboot and play a video and make it lock up to see if it keeps playing for starters.
>>53801197
>>53801417
Brilliant, love these. Thanks guys
>>53801652
Hot corners make my dick limp, honestly.
How about you?
>>53801664
Same, I was getting really irked by it
Whats a good Linux os that's simple as possible, has good support and great drivers for gaming? Trying to install Linux for my cousin:^Dr
>>53801744
Ubuntu
>>53801637
Ok so video locks up but sound keeps playing. Also im pretty sure it only happens when plugging the laptop back in and it doesn't happen every time.
My laptop is a Thinkpad T60 http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T60
With a C2D 1.83Ghz and the ATI x1400
>>53797632
Actually, it's a boy.
>>53801991
Was this ever confirmed or just another /g/ meme?
>headphone jack magically works
>not rebooted, not updated, not changed anything really
>literally not worked since like christmas
wat, wonder if its a one time thing
>>53802483
Check the date.
Tomorrow it will stop working.
