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Previous Thread: >>53773556
So I've been comparing the new HD598SE to my buddies HD558 and my HD650, I use to own the old 598 (I may have had a defective pair), but I swear the new HD598SE has more bass and a richer sound than the old 598 I use to have a couple years back.
The bass is tighter and goes as low as my 650's now. For sure has strong bass on the new 598SE I got. Not to mention they are very neutral and pretty clear sounding. I remember my old 598 being a tad bright, these new 598SE are anything but bright, I would call them warm before bright to be honest. I've used them in both my asgard 2 and bimby and just from my motherboard and desu it sounds great out of both. Super impressed with the new cans. (and this is coming from someone who returned the old 598 TWICE a couple years ago, for sure keeping these)
>>53793631
How do those compare to Earpods?
>>53793678
Any online measurements?
![fostex_rpmk3_series_t20rp_mk3_stereo_1180068[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fIX5w5m.jpg "fostex_rpmk3_series_t20rp_mk3_stereo_1180068[1].jpg")
I like this meme. Got my mods set up pretty much perfect for my taste.
Post EQs. Don't care which headphone or earphone. Just post them.
>>53793605
guys best cheap IEM's on Aliexpress? xiaomi piston 3??
>>53794032
Ok, but why?
Are these new Pistons? I can't read Chinese http://www.mi.com/huosai2/
>>53794038
KZ ED3 and ED9 are on my wishlist. I haven't purchased them yet.
I have Piston 3s and they sound better than HJE120 stock. Once EQ'd they both sound awesome.
I also ordered Hybrids. /hpg/ says it sucks but curiosity got me ordering one. Vocals are distant on the Hybrids I guess.
>>53794134
Because if you use EQs then you're a cool person. A lot of people here fight over stock frequency response and they don't even EQ them. If I see someone that uses EQ on a cheap headphone then they're awesome.
Didn't people from the olden days like 20 or 30 years ago use EQ to make headphones sound flat and use them for studios making music? That's why. Post moar.
I'm in the market for a budget DAC for my Sony mdr 7506's. All I have atm is an on-board realtek sound-card and I assume it's best to upgrade to something better.
>Budget
Under 200 but perferably under 150
>Location
Ontario Canada
>Source
Computer?
>Preferred tonal balance
Netural I guess
>Preferred music
Rock, EDM, Rap, Classical, anything really
Is there any reason to go with the AKG K550 MKII over the K545? Mainly for PC use but the added portability of the 545's never hurts. They're both under the same price tag at my dealer.
Just ordered xb950's. Did i dun goofed?
Been using these koss porta pros for a couple days because I wanted something light, cheap, and good. I am really liking them a lot.
What other good Koss headphones are there?
>>53794242
While i agree that fighting over FR of headphones is mostly silly and that there's a lot you can fix with proper EQ, i don't think there's anything wrong with liking a non-flat FR, after all, taste is subjective.
>20 or 30 years ago use EQ to make headphones sound flat and use them for studios making music
Never heard of that, in fact most old timers i've met preffer their older, not neutral equipment to the newer, more neutral stuff because they are used to those signatures and know how to work better with them, when i comes to this NS10 is a classic example in terms of monitors, MDR v6 and DT100 for headphones.
Pic very related, that particular one is from the 70s.
>>53794487
Damn, wrong pic.
>>53794484
Forgot my pic
>>53794484
>What other good Koss headphones are there?
Koss ESP950
>>53794484
Koss SportaPros which are just ugly PortaPros.
Literally Koss has been garbage since the early '90s.
All the stuff they sell now is fucking trash.
>>53794484
Other than the PortaPros and KSC75s (which are basically rebranded PortaPros), none of Koss's stuff is actually good.
>>53794368
The 7506's are absurdly easy to drive, if you don't feel like there's anything wrong with the sound output coming from your computer, then there's no real reason to get an external DAC/amp. a $200 one probably wouldn't sound any better than your PC audio anyway, unless you have some ancient shitty mobo.
>>53794611
KSC75s aren't PortaPros though.
It's a similar driver but titanium coated.. desu they sound worse. I have both.
>>53794242
>Didn't people from the olden days like 20 or 30 years ago use EQ
Don't forget everyone in studios back in the 70s or 80s also used hardware equalizers. I was born in the 90s and I'm just guessing.
>>53794621
And a $200 one doesn't sound any worse than a $5000 one.
:)
Does anyone have any experience with the Marshall Majors? They seem like they have a good price point but I'm not sure they could be terrible
>>53795112
Didn't Tyll Hertsens say that those sound like AM radio tin cans?
>>53795112
Imagine Koss Porta Pro that's 10% less good. That's pretty much exactly what those are like.
>>53795112
Nevermind. It didn't say it sounded like AM radio tin cans.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/marshall-major-heaphone-zound-industries
Only pair of headphones I own right now are some old apple EarPods. Considering purchasing those Fostex on Massdrop, but not sure if there's a considerable difference between those Fostex and the AKG K7xx and the DT880's (brother in-law told me to grab the 880's).
Anybody here buying the Fostex? They seem like they're selling damn well
We exist in an era where audio companies have people whose jobs are to figure out how to cut down their own products so as to encourage people to buy their more expensive products that don't need to be more expensive.
Shit's fucking retarded.
5 best headphone manufacturers ?
1 AT
2 Sennheiser
3 SONY
4 Beyerdynamic
5 AKG
>>53793605
>For the newfags that keep replying to the "Belgian shitposter"
http://pastebin.com/WmqBnCAF
stop forgetting the inclusion of this since every thread that does forget to eventually goes to shit for good reason
>>53795891
>sony
>sennheiser
>good
no
>budget
No more than 150USD
>location
USA
>source
Smartphone
>preference
Full size
>open/closed
Doesn't really matter as long it sounds good.
>Comfort level
Comfy for hours of comfort
>preferred music
Nu-jazz, math rock, math piano, dream pop, alt rock, and post rock
>>53795946
>Industry standard for 30 years, used in hundreds of studios all over the world
>not good
at least be subtle when shitposting.
can somebody post bass rich songs? im trying my HD598SE with the Equilizer APO and im not sure about the bass, i hardly affected the bass frequency
>>53796010
sony WAS good
any good headphone they have is over 25 years old
>>53796022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08f1izQg6IE
Thoughts?
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/all-wholesale-products/1924356.html
>>53796022
how about not buying shitty headphones
>>53795967
>Nu-jazz, math rock, math piano, dream pop, alt rock, and post rock
You left out prenup and post-haste.
>>53796093
Retarded trash
>>53796070
It was not implyed by the first post that the demand was for the 5 best headphone manufacturers "based on recent products", so like i said, their stuff is old and still industry standard used in hundreds of studios all over the world.
>>53796081
thanks, i think it improved the bass a little, i guess their new volume is freaking me out
>>53796094
Any suggestions? i plan to buy other pair on june or july
>>53796093
The Ve monk are out of stock but go for it if you can get them , they are not listed because they are going to release a new model soon for 5 dollars+shipping 3 dollars) I don't know why the other person said it was retarded trash. The new ones will look like this. Just go on headfi and search for them
>>53794399
bumping
I tried really REALLY hard not to put anything metal in favorite albums.
>>53796578
Why though?
>>53796578
>Zankyou No Terror
muh nigga
what's a good eq for soundmagic e10s on sansa clip w/rockbox?
DT-880 vs K7XX
Using for music and games when speakers aren't an option.
>>53798102
K7XX
>budget
$120 US (max)
>location
USA (california)
>source
iPod Classic (5.5 gen), Android smartphone, PC, Sansa Clip+
>preference
Over-Ear, Closed headphones for privacy
>Comfort level
Comfy for several hours of listening per day
>preferred music
I just want something for ANY genre, but I listen to a lot of guitar based music and some hip hop and electronic
Been looking at the ATH-M40x but I hear there are better headphones for my budget, any recs?
>>53795967
>math piano
ay you gotta rec me some artists like that
>>53796022
Wiz kaleefa or whatevz "on my level" that low note is what I use to test sub bass. Shit song tho
basic question but recommend me a basic headphone amp. got hd 598s if that matters
>>53798609
598s shouldn't need an amp.
>>53798609
Really doesn't need an amp. If you want an external DAC and amp I like products from schiit personally
>>53798661
thanks, this helps
>>53798627
>>53798627
having volume issues with some stuff(live recordings generally), not even max volume is enough
>>53798762
Im the one asking for nigbass i dont think they really need one, i tried a friends fiio e11k and it did nothing
>>53794032
>>53798170
Reasons? Have you had experience with both headphones?
Like my earbuds? I wear them 24/7
>>53800340
>hey bro pass the earbuds
$30-50 IEMs. Look no further than SoundMAGIC E10? Is that spending enough to not worry about a hissing sound at high frequency like my old ones that I got when I had no appreciation because of constant background noise?
So a while back I was in one of these threads and ended up being recommended a headphone, I liked it but it was only shippable from china with like big intervals so I ended up getting something else
Wanna take another look at it but I forgot the name, all I really remember is that it must have been like 50 bucks or less, had a metal mesh cup-tops with the logo like bolted onto it, and an overall metally look to it. Also I seem to recall the cable was fully removable, but I'm not sure about that.
I know that's not much to go on, but if it were recommended to me once I guess I'm figuring it must come up more often or something. Eh.
>>53800807
HI2050?
>>53794038
I personally like my KZ ATE's over pistons, they're way more comfy and sound similar out of the box.
Is the TH02 the ultimate budget over-ear headphone or what? I think it beats out everything at the <$50 range if you get velour pads for it.
>>53793838
>>53793794
>>53798102
>memephones
>>53802280
I own one. I think so too.
>>53801103
Yes, that's it
Thanks
>>53799001
Is that the stock foobar EQ? If so, stop using it.
Are JVC headphones any good?
I refuse to shill out more than 30 pounds on headphones since I won't be using them that much and they seem to have some good deals right now (pic related is going for 17 pounds)
What the fuck is fast bass?
>>53804064
An audiophile meme.
>>53794399
bumping for advice
Why is "unforgiving" considered a bad thing to these headfi niggers? Shitty mixing and mastering should sound as it should - shit.
>>53804654
>to these headfi niggers
>headfi
Seems like you answered your own question.
>tfw XB950's arriving soon
Oh boy cant wait
Anyone else sick of the Fostex mod meme?
>some guys in a shed slapping together headphones and painting them
>arbitrary tolerances and QC, barely any understanding of transducer engineering, ignorant of things like T/S parameters or even six sigma
>think they can produce a better headphone than multiple PhDs (many of which whose discoveries were fundamental to modern audio engineering) with access to pro-level dummy heads, huge blind listening studies, CFD, modern automated manufacturing and huge economies of scale
>charging ridiculous prices
Worst bit is how Fostex deliberately held back T50RP development to accomodate retards like ZMF x Vibro, MrSpeakers and LFF and how the community circlejerks over the 'little guy'. Same goes for Audeze.
Harman and Sennheiser should just get their shit together and blow away these faggots with individualized DSP headphones.
oh jesus fucking christ this new theme is cancer.
i'd take puddi over this shit
>>53805586
Happy April Fools mate
>>53798274
Get my cans >>53796578
>>53805586
I liked it
Well, those VE Monks are in stock now. But instead of $5 they're $15, $18 after shipping.
I'm calling scam.
>Budget
40-70€
>Location
Germany
>Source
Mobile phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized, foldable would be great
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy would be good
>Preferred music
I listen to everything but mostly HipHop
I had the JVC HA-M750 black series before but they broke and are not available on amazon anymore
Something similar would be great
I've seen people connect their microphones to 10$ usb adapters and get much clearer sound, something about usb filtering the interference?
Now I want to improve the sound quality of my mic but I'm hoping I can do this with a DAC+amp, so that the cables all go to one place and not become some spider web.
I'm not sure I understand but can I use the mic in input for that?
Example pic, headphone connected to the front and microphone to the back.
I'm torn between Etymotic MK5s and HF5s.
Should I just go with the MK5s, I'm not particularly bothered about the balance.
>>53804654
Because sometimes, the only version of a song you can find is the shittiest 128kbps version, and fuck, son. Just, fuck.
>>53806918
Which one has bass?
>>53806947
HF5
>>53806958
Get that one.
>>53806918
HF5 is dark sounding, MK5 is a bit bright. I prefer the MK5. Both of them have the same bass extension but the rolled off treble will make the HF5 sound darker. HF5 is very close to ER-4PT and MK5 closer to ER-4S but slightly brighter.
Well I loved my waifu - but she died
The profile seems ok but the rise to ~2.5 kHz should be higher. I don't have to know how to figure out what is causing it. The scale is off.
Can anyone give me some advice on buying new earbuds?
>Budget
$60
>Location
USA
>Source
Android Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Medium to High
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
I use PortaPros at the moment and I like them but I'm looking for IEMs to replace them. I want a good well rounded pair that I can use on almost any genre.
>>53807956
Here's a graph with both ER-4S and ER-4PT.
>>53805523
I am as weary of Fostex mods as anyone can be, but you have no have argument.
>>53808303
>>53807956
Didn't I tell you that they would look off?
>>53808568
>Didn't I tell you that they would look off?
No, Ms. Penny. Or at least I don't remember it. The lack of rise at 2 kHz and beyond is similar to that of my measurements of the SE535 with the 330 Ohm damper. At least these seem consistent between each other.
>budget
200 usd i can invest a little more
>location
USA
>source
X1, Laptop
>preference
Full size
>open/closed
Closed i will be outdoors
>Comfort level
Comfy for at least 3 hours
>preferred tone
flat, i dont mind a little bright or warm
>preferred music
Usually all ranges, i like all instruments together. I tend to like female voices more
>>53806750
Okay. They're doing some convoluted drop system for only certain people who are in the know. $15 isn't the price, nor will you get them if you order them at $15.
>>53794621
>The 7506's are absurdly easy to drive
Not really, unless you want no bass at all.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SonyMDRV6.pdf
>>53810271
Do you think that graph is somehow relevant?
>>53810271
what would be and 600 ohm output impedance?
>>53810271
>0.061 Vrms to 90dB SPL
Absurdly easy to drive. That's IEM tier.
>>53798296
Mouse on the Keys is pretty good.
>>53807974
Do you want round earbuds or in-ear (plug) headphones? If it's the former you have basically no good options other than trying your luck with chinkshit. If it's the latter fill out the fucking request form in the OP.
>>53810456
Yes. It clearly shows the 7506's have recessed bass at a high output impedance.
>>53810590
Quite the opposite.
>>53810271
No, Nettie-chan, this graph just shows that V6 has a shitty impedance curve, a bit like Sennheiser open models. V6 just needs a really small amount of voltage and a low output impedance source.
>>53793605
The dac is to remove 'noise' and it does a fantastic job.
>>53811323
And the amp is to power already efficient headphones that don't need it?
>>53811362
Nope, I need the extra power for my midi keyboard, also ive tested it vs my fiio e10k and it actually sounds better. On top of that it's fuure proof, i'll never buy another amp in my entire life unless it breaks.
>>53811323
Fucking hell I meant to post my updated version showing my my dac actually looks like.
Is the Fidelio l1 any good? is it worth getting over sony's 7506?
Why do we hate Goldenears measurements?
http://en.goldenears.net/388
http://www.ebay.com/itm/172097978877
>>53811819
Because they expose the K702 as being as terrible as they are, while those who don't know how to read graphs are easily tricked by the IF ones because of Tyll's compensation.
Good evening mates
>>53811956
you got rid of a HD600?
>>53812228
Yup. I gave it to my brother together with a MF V90 HPA.
>>53793605
I went and bought a pair hd 800 today for $900. Did I fuck up?
mp3ornot.com
>have DT 990 Pros
>can barely differentiate, mostly guesswork
Is my hearing just fucked or does my onboard soundchip limit my 990s?
I've got a fairly new realtek chip, I read that they're actually decent nowadays
>>53793605
What is the next clear step after the akog 702's?
I'm thinking the hd650 so far but I haven't really looked into them yet, I love my 702's but I also like bass, but not nigger bass.
>>53812518
>he fell for the zeos headphone meme
>>53812668
I bought them like two months before the review though
>>53798102
DT880s.
I've got 70-80 USD to spend on some in ear headphones what should I get?
>>53812379
>mp3ornot.com
please
for the sake of my sanity
can somebody do 2 or 3 runs of this? Is my hearing legit going to shit?
I'm looking for some advice on ear buds, some info:
>budget
At most 120-150 USD
>location
USA
>source
Galaxy S4, 5th Gen Ipod
>preference
I already own Senheisser CX 200s and while they're very clear and have really powerful highs I'm looking for something like them with a bit more bass and mid range. I've noticed that with the CX 200s the highs are so strong that it makes anything with kind of sudden high notes or guitar feedback painful to listen to
>open/closed
Doesn't really matter
>preferred music
My favorites are Death metal (more specifically OSDM,Caverncore,Black/death,tech death, and avant/experimental dm),and extreme metal in general, Hip hop (abstract,boom bap,Memphis rap, trap, experimental hip hop), noise rock, noise in general,lots of jazz and electronic sub genres,post rock, I listen to a lot of different stuff so this probably isn't very helpful
Recently I've been lookin at Shure-SE215-K,JVC HA-FXZ200, and JVC HA-FXZ100s but I'm not really sure what would be the best choice
>>53812806
I forgot to mention I've also been looking at the HA-FXT200LTDs
>>53812802
Mp3 that has been encoded with the modern LAME encoder is transparent even at lower bitrates. It's no surprise you can't hear the difference.
So I got some cheap headphones (TH-02) and thought they were unbalanced because the things centered like vocals sound a little bit to the right.
However, I've tested different headphones on different systems and I realized the problem is with me. I think my right ear is stronger than my left. I don't know how I ever noticed this, I guess I just thought some mixers preferred to mix vocals a little to the right to avoid clashing with other things straight down the center.
Is this theory possible? And if so, can I just use the balance setting to adjust for this?
im >>53809871
and might be getting the K550, are they good?
>>53812802
It was pretty hard to tell the difference, but not impossible. I missed the 5th attempt because the first 4 were all 128kbps. I got paranoid about getting 5 consecutive 128kbps samples and chose 320 when it was actually another 128kbps sample.
>>53813167
There's probably a short piece of hair or earwax in your ear. Clean it.
>>53811819
>we
Should I get the XB950BT or a qc15? Both are in my price range. I'm leaning towards the XB950BT because of its functionality with android and the optional Bluetooth. Any opinions?
>>53812346
new or used?
Ether C measurements are up:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MrSpeakersEtherC.pdf
[spoiler]Oppo PM-3 are still better.[/spoiler]
>>53812379
>Is my hearing just fucked or does my onboard soundchip limit my 990s?
Neither. The codecs are good nowadays and you need to train your hearing to identify the artifacts, not upgrade your audio gear. Even modest gear can reveal artifacts just fine, it's mostly just listener skill.
Hi /g/ I've got a bit of a request. I'll start out by saying I'm pretty new to headphones.
>Budget
$150-$200 AUD, lower would be nice but I know that they're expensive.
>Location
Victoria, Australia. I don't really know any price comparison websites though.
>Source
Standard 3.5mm headphone jacks in my PC, can also use USB 3.0 if needbe.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full headphones
>Open or closed
Preferably I'd want closed, but apparently for what I want to do (Voice recording) open is better.
So Open?
>Comfort level
I'd like something comfy, I wear headphones a lot.
>Preferred music
I listen to a lot of ambient, post-rock, classical and prog metal
>Past headphones
Ho boy. I've never had headphones so much as headsets because 'YEAH COMBINED PACKAGE HAS TO BE GOOD'. So really I wouldn't know quality audio if it bit me on the ass.
Anyway... Current headset is a Sennheiser U320 and my previous headset was a Corsair 1500 7.1 Surround Sound pieces of garbage.
ATH M70X for every day music listening, yay or nay?
i had 2 M50's, they were nice, both stopped working randomly in less than a year...
>>53814707
HD 558, they are cheap and open, if you want closed mdr 4506 which is an recording standar in several studios
>>53811819
I love goldenears because of how flat the k551 looks there
>>53815302
That midbass hump, it's actually a definitive bump holy shit.
THOOMP THOOMP THOOMP
Do you guys get headphone fatigue? If I listen to music for about an hour, everything starts to sound really underwhelming. It's like all the detail from the music disappears and I've put some shitty headphones on. Only way to fix it is to stop for a few hours.
Do I need some darker or brighter headphones? I have HD600s now.
>>53815340
That new curve they use has bass compensation too so it's going to be quite bassy during listening. That's also a measurement of perfect seal which is not always a case with the K55x -series AKGs.
>>53815349
Loudly mastered stuff does that to me unless I'm focusing hard on something else like a game. And in this case I don't keep the music that loud.
>>53815340
not really noticable but there's a mod that fixes the peaks and valleys (pic related)
>>53815349
Never had that problem with my HD650s. Are you listening to your music too loud/sharp perhaps? Listen to your music without any EQ and at the lowest volume that you can still hear every detail at?
>>53815494
Hell no, I'm very conservative with volume and I don't use any EQ. In act I find myself turning the volume right up when the "fatigue" sets in so it restores some of the detail.
>>53815153
Sony MDR 7506*
What are the most gangsta looking headphones?
>>53815153
Okay, thanks. I'm thinking the 558s.
>>53815349
>>53815494
I've never experienced this with my hd650 either. What dac and amp are you using?
>>53815697
Just HD600s plugged into my PC, with a Xonar DG
It's also worth mentioning that I experienced the exact same thing with my AD700s. Maybe I need darker headphones?
>>53815723
You know you could test and do just that by equalization.
>listen to fostex t50rp on samsung galaxy, they sound great with much boomier and more lively everything
>plug into onboard PC audio, sound flat and dead like a corpse
Is it time for an amp/dac m8s? I always thought they were somewhat snake oily but something is off and it's probably my retarded ass trying to run it off a budget motherboard
>>53815723
There your problem. Don't plug in 300 ohm headphones into a shitty xonar sound card. Get a dedicated headphone amp and a decent dac to get the full range out of your headphones. Youre bottlenecking the fuck out of then with that xonar.
>>53815755
Nice garbage advice.
>>53815755
That's irrelevant. I experienced the same fatigue with my AD700s which were easily driven to full via my around card.
>>53815804
>>53815858
Everything xonar I've ever listened to has sounded like ass. I imagine with headphones as resolving as the hd600, the source make a huge difference. Keep your gaming surround xtreme sound card if you wish.
>>53815886
It's not even a "gaming xtreme" card. It's basic as fuck.
>>53815858
It isn't just about getting to a loud volume. The highs should be anything but shrill on the hd600, if it is fatiging it has to be the source or the amp. I've heard the hd600 called rolled off of the top, they are far away from a bright harsh sounding headphone. If you have a friend with a different sound set up, try it out there before you toss aside the hd600, they're fantastic. I personally prefer the hd650 which are even more rolled off in the highs and a warmer sound. They're more similar than different tho
>>53795946
what headphone would you suggest thats atleast as good as the hd 558s? do you have expereince or did you fall for the meme
>>53815755
>>53815886
>ohms relevant in any way
>full range
>bottleneck bioscience
>resolving
>anon's listening impressions
>da-converter/headphone amplifier = source?
not even against recommending a headphone amplifier but cmon
>>53815949
Don't listen to him. The hd558 are fantastic , I recommend the foam removal mod. The hd598se are on sale on Amazon right now tho for the price of the 558. I've owned both and prefer the 598se by a tad. They're pretty much identical headphones tho besides minor details
>>53815945
this is a raw FR graph of the HD600
>>53815959
Just giving my personal experience. Ohms are relevant. Getting your drivers to fire 100℅ is relevant. Bottlenecking in a sound system is a thing, your headphones are only as good as yulour source. Source could mean a DAC, your stereo receiver, cell phone, whatever. Stop bitching about semantics. Just trying to help out.
>>53815949
this guy is right >>53815977
The HD 598 is a little bit more flat then the HD 558 on raw FR, but they are practically indentical, the SE comes with 2 cables btw
>>53816005
>your headphones are only as good as yulour source.
I believe you meant?
>Your sound system is like a chain. It's as weak as the weakest link.
>>53815945
The HD600s don't sound shrill at all to me. In fact when I switched to them from the AD700s I was immediately surprised by how laid back they sounded. But I still get fatigued by then for some reason.
>>53808568
I think it is valid to expect competent engineering in headphones, not awfully-manufactured crap like Audeze or dubious cottage-industry mods with no concept of manufacturing tolerances.
I think the increasing prevalence of these small startups will harm development of consumer headphones. Signs of it are already showing: Fostex delayed the T50RP development cycle (according to Tyll) to accommodate these companies. They are the largest headphone OEM in the world by a country mile, with a more sophisticated lab and manufacturing facilities than any small startup can dream of. They are well-placed to create a far superior product if the market demands it. Yet plebbit and head-fi shills would rather want fancier polished earcups than genuine groundbreaking technology like Harman TruNote automated equalization out of ignorance.
>>53816582
>They are the largest headphone OEM
Bigger than Sony?
>College students, this is the one time I would say eating raman for two months is worth it.
Fucking hell, Tyll.
>>53816681
Not him, but Foster Electric does an insane amount of OEM work.
>>53816794
What headphone is Tyll referring to?
>>53816808
Ether C.
>>53816681
I was under the impression Sony outsourced some headphone manufacturing to third-parties and Foster was a vertically-integrated OEM (with a subsidiary factory in China), so not a direct comparison.
Auditioned the Hifiman HE1000s for about an hour and a half.
Super comfy; light and earpads are amazing, easy to drive, fucking ugly.
If I had to just shorten how it sounded, laid back is what I would go with. It's not as revealing as something like HD800 but I could definitely easily listen to it for hours on end.
Subjectively, I feel like the bass was a little much for me, even though it wasn't overbearing. Too "rich"? Mids were amazing and vocals, especially female, was true to life. Treble was not sibilant but lacking in detail compared to others around that price.
Overall, not worth the price tag but definitely worth a listen.
>>53817162
>Overall, not worth the price tag but definitely worth a listen.
welcome to headphones costing above 400 dollars.
>>53817162
Is that 10 times better than HD600?
akg k553 pro or ath msr7?
>>53817392
It's like a choice between a lifetime in the gulag and a quick but painful death.
>>53817419
Any sugfestions for closed back?
Sitting here waiting for Ali Express to manage to update their website.
>>53817454
T50RP Mk.III
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqm50k-PK30
>>53817470
As someone who owns a modded pair of T20RP Mk3s, they do leak sound and don't isolate all that well in their stock form, and this was true even when I taped the cup vents completely shut.
Different pads are also a must, and with that comes a change in sound signature which will take either some EQ or some modding to fix.
After some experimenting I've basically settled on my own mod configuration and they do sound great, though.
>>53817470
>Zeos
give me a review from somebody who knows what they're talking about
>>53817500
You're a lost cause.
>>53817506
>being reddit trash with opinions on things based solely on some guy spouting audiophile buzzwords and changing his anime wallpaper every video
>>53817522
While I don't always agree with z reviews. I do like that he ignores all the audiophile forums and bs and just gives his own options whether it is wrong or not. At least he's honest unlike that douchebag tyll
>>53817522
>considers the akg k553
>>53817539
wrong person
>>53817532
how is tyll dishonest?
>>53817549
>he's never seen his amp and dac comparison videos where he fools himself and other of there being a difference.
You're an audio lightweight and should end posting.
>>53817562
you say this while defending somebody who claims his tube amp has a wider soundstage. alright retard.
>>53817549
Different poster but as much as I enjoy reading his reviews, he occasionally does shit like
>mm yes this cardas cable with my hd800 sounds more smooth than the stock
>>53817571
I never supported Zeos, i'm just pointing the hypocrisy. The pot calling the kettle black.
>>53808568
Something about the acoustic impedance simulation error, and that it could prove problematic for in-ears, especially of the balanced armature type. You would make a RECD (Real-Ear Coupler Difference) correction curve to try and get an approximate measurement. I had a document showing a typical correction...somewhere.
>>53816582
>I think it is valid to expect competent engineering in headphones
Sure. But what matters most is where the wallet goes, and you can't count on the masses to be discerning.
>Signs of it are already showing: Fostex delayed the T50RP development cycle (according to Tyll)
That is a very curious statement from Tyll; Zach mentioned Dan making a deal to have priority on all the remaining mk2 batches.
Not that I see it as important, the t50rp versions mk2 and mk3 are both crap.
>with a more sophisticated lab and manufacturing facilities than any small startup can dream of
Normally, small companies just go to an OEM and ask for a tailor made drive unit. Testing equipment and headphone prototyping aren't that far out of the reach of a pool of a few seriously interested entrepreneurs otherwise.
The competitive headphones market is still trying to reach equilibrium. It still isn't a very hard field to get into, whether you want to rebrand yet another piece of Chinese junk or actually try and make a decent product. The science has only changed so much in the last few decades.
>will harm development of consumer headphones
I don't see why it won't end up like the mess that is hi-fi loudspeakers.
A bit of a side note,
>genuine groundbreaking technology like Harman TruNote
It has prior art and its effectiveness is limited. In any case, it should be present on more devices to serve the lazy and ignorant.
>>53816681
>Bigger than Sony?
More OEM work at least. Too lazy to check actual figures.
>>53817549
I think tyll is mentally unstable. You can see it in his eyes. Contradicts himself alot and uses audiophile buzz words to describe everything. He constantly is just giving impressions he's heard from other people to influence his own opinion. I also have a hunch he is paid to give good reviews to high end lesser known audio companies.
>>53817586
he just states what he believes. he's honest and actually passionate about what he does, plus he's not afraid to call things bad (calls hd700 straight up shit and a mistake, wasn't favorable with the lcd-4 at all)
>>53817592
tyll measures headphones and has a massive database of these measurements, he also shares knowledge of how things work, like the big writeup he did on harmonic distortion and helmholtz resonators for the hd800s reviews.
what the fuck does zeos do? hype up cheap shit as being the next amazing thing, almost ever new headphone he gets i the 'best ever' (remember the x2 review? he's probably forgotten about them now) not only that but he knows absolute fuck all about how headphones, amps and dacs work. he's essentially technigger but almost exclusively speakers and headphones.
>>53817571
It's perception you idiot. Killing the mids will give you a perceived wider soundstage. The tubes probably were fucking up the mids in a way that gave him that perception. Zeos knows more than you.
>>53809069
>>53817600
>Acoustic impedance and RECD
>>53817619
>making up shit to justify the retarded shit he says
>Zeos knows more than you
Zeos knows nothing, he thinks headphone outputs on tripath amps are just resistor ladders from the speaker amp section.
i can't believe somebody knows LESS than Zeos but you've shocked me.
tyll is like 50 yo and can't hear past 10khz
they should let children do audio reviews, or at least someone with an official certificate of non shit hearing.
>>53817609
>technigger
why are you such a racist? Brownlee is one of the best phone reviewers.
You fault zeos for stating what he believes but you give Tyll a pass for doing the same?
So a racist and a bigot. nice.
>>53817672
back to tumblr you go
>>53817675
This is why i watch Zeos, at least he explains himself.
>>53817686
There is nothing to explain, your kind belongs on tumblr.
Anyone ever used ear boomerangs?
>>53817686
>being offended by things on 4chan
back to tumblr you go
>at least he explains himself
he doesn't know how to explain himself half the time because he's inexperienced and a fuckwit. tyll has been in the industry longer than you have been alive.
>>53817693
You just don't like hearing the truth. Kinda like a bigot.
>>53817672
>this whole post
>>53817699
Racist enabler everybody.
>>53817392
K553 pro
>>53817713
where do you think you are, tumblrwhale
>>53817719
Choosing trash instead of garbage...
Any EU bros here that order from Amazon often.
When you get the option to
PAY IN EUR
Pay in your local currency
Why is PAY in EUR much cheaper than local currency?
how does the bank deal with that?
>>53817539
Belgium is a non country stop posting here you faggot.
>>53817539
i asked for the k550, some guy from here told me it was worse then k553 and the msr7
>>53817727
Reddit.
>>53817737
end your life welfarecuck stop shilling akg
>>53817732
why couldn't you have just died in the terrorist attacks Belgian faggot?
>>53804276
I have all three, 550, 553, and 545 because I like treble of course. I would recommend 553>550>545. 545 sounds too artificial to me, you can really tell when comparing. However, you need a biggish head for the 55's and their cord is not as portable. so:
550/553
big head to seal
don't mind non-removable, huge cord
Smidge better sounding
553 US only
545
normal heads
much more portable
little worse sound
>>53817747
you'd be mistaken there, redditor
>>53817744
It is, the K553 is a big improvement over the K550
>>53817762
"You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." - Gandhi
>>53817764
>>53817773
ok thanks i will look in to
>>53817762
>everyone who disagrees with me is belgian
lol look at this sad pathetic welfarecuck
>>53817785
Shut up and make me some waffles bitch
>>53817785
What you just happen have the same mannerisms and the belgian shitposter?
>>53817808
the 'belgian shitposter' doesn't exist and is just a convenient label for the welfarecuck to put on anyone who disagrees with him
>>53817814
he does and im talking to him
>>53817736
There is usually around 1% conversion fee on your bank card.
>>53817823
i'm not belgian though so i don't know what you're talking about welfarecuck
clearly the bumps in your k702s are messing with your already empty head
>>53817836
Unless he bought the chink version, in which case
>chink build quality
Can we all love and accept each other. We aren't children after all. It's okay to love both Zeos and Tyll, both provide an excellent resource for budding audio enthusiasts.
>>53817850
considering his financial situation he would have had to buy used so it's more likely he has the older austrian made ones
>>53817836
>Im not Belgian
Yet you have never proved that you aren't.
>>53817857
>both provide an excellent resource for budding audio enthusiasts.
what does zeos provide?
>>53817864
in that case,
>used goods
literal cuck
>>53817873
until you can prove you own shp9500s and aren't the k702/k340 shitposting welfarecuck i don't have to do anything since we're all waiting on that
>>53817864
>>53817850
>>53817836
>replying to yourself
paaaaaaaaaaaaathetic
>>53817902
>can't check for samefag
he can't even proxy post to avoid posting timelimit as well, truly is the welfarecuck we all know to shit up every thread he can
>>53817889
I don't own those fotm memephones so go on and prove that you are not belgian.
>>53817833
thank you sooo much
>>53817911
wow you sure proved something there welfarecuck i'll take your word for it
>>53817902
>>53817911
>minute apart
wew there welfarecuck i can already imagine you waiting for the post counter to go down for your next shitpost
>>53817909
>proxy posting
How is it you are not a shitposter?
>>53817875
Guides!
https://www.reddit.com/r/zeos
Community!
https://www.reddit.com/r/zeos
Reviews!
https://www.youtube.com/user/ZeosReviews
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeosReviews
Rewards!
https://www(x)patreon.com/Zeos?ty=h
And a whole lot more!
Are VE Monks good? Should I get them?
>>53817929
And they're all shit.
>>53817929
Thanks, z
>>53817929
>>53817929
provides nothing of value to anything but zeos himself
>>53817928
i'm just pointing out how easy it is to see it's you, welfare cuck, since you're tech illiterate and just generally all around retarded.
>>53817911
>>53817928
>minute apart
wew welarecuck
>>53817929
pls review cat
