Previously on: >>53761657
Welcome to /fg/lt/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /fg+lt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
who /fedora/ here
>>53772738
Get out.
>>53772738
Yep
Why is everyone so /MadAtArch/
Canonical
The enemy of your freedom.
>>53772880
more or less pic related
>>53772920
Nice to see the company I was hating for years for no reason has finally given me one
>>53772920
>more developers for linux
>bad
>>53772954
>Linux developers need Windows at all
>>53772954
>microsoft has 100k employees
>OS made by 10 developers max working in their basements is almost up to par
>>53772999
What are you even trying to imply here?
>>53773020
That no matter how many programmers running on curry, doing spaghetti code, you add, it's still not going to change anything.
>>53772920
Violation of the GPL.
>>53772933
You shouldn't pain every Arch user with the same brush
>>53773122
But you like pain. Why else would you torture yourself like that if not for masochistic tendencies?
>>53773122
It's just a meme (aka hivemind). I've never interacted with someone running arch before, yet I've already been bombarded with meme culture to the point where I'm aware that I'm supposed to, or at least be inclined to, think lowly of one.
How long until we have some decent AMD support on linux?
>>53773287
Until you start using Windows >>53772920 on your machine.
>>53773312
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Windows is just a part of GNU/Windows, or GNU + Windows as I've recently taken to calling it.
Is linux safe yet to install on comps that have UEFI BIOS?
so hey, i went cold turkey windows -> linux mint a couple of days ago, and everything is actually running smoothly but I am still new to this so I will probably hang around in these threads for a while forward.
-
for some reason, when i installed mint, i installed root on my ssd and home on one of my hdds, even though i have more than enough space on my ssd.
now i regret this, both since like i said i have enough space on the ssd to fit root and home and since the hdd with home have these small sounds which are fucking annoying *tics-ti-tics* *buzz* lmao
anyways, i want to move home from the hdd to the ssd! how should i do this?
if it ist a really complicated move i guess i could just reinstall since i've only had linux installed a couple of days and really nothing of value would be lost.
>>53773111
This. I guess RMS will strick back soon.
>>53773312
But I already do
What I want is not to use it for christ's sake
>>53773111
Sure about that?
>>53773111
Isn't it fine with GPL if it isn't shipped with Windows and instead is downloaded and installed separate later?
>>53773355
Has been for a while. You should enable Legacy BIOS anyway though, because UEFI does NOT respect your freedom.
>>53773159
I didn't find it torturous
>>53773488
fuck off gay tripfag nobody cares
>>53773607
>Stop liking what I don't like
>>53773488
But Bios does?
>>53773634
>Stop liking what I don't like
more like stop tripping.
>>53773719
I like having to take responsability about what I write here. If that makes me a faggot, so be it.
>>53773749
Then reddit maybe is more your cup of tea.
>>53773686
Not really. The best option is Libreboot but you need compatible hardware.
>>53773765
read >>53773607
>>53773765
What's the point of recommending Bios then?
>>53773803
>>53773765
fuck off idiot go back to your desktop thread
Installed arch and firefox.
The thing is that firefox displays some characters (japanese for example) as boxes with a hex code inside, yet they're displayed properly if I copy them to xterm or any other application.
How do I fix that?
I'm getting a lot of hostility and bad vibes from this thread... :/
>>53773839
Install Noto.
>>53773762
Reddit is a nasty place for many reasons. I've been here for years, I like it and I don't see any reason to leave.
>>53773803
In many cases UEFI and tradicional BIOS are the only options.
>>53773824
I don't remeber ever posting in one of those. I have them filtered actually.
Please ignore my tripfaggin' and focus on the thread's content.
>>53773848
you only have to be friendly to anonymous
>>53773379
>He actually got the hacked mint iso
Oh boy, you're in for a wild ride
>>53773765
Filtered
>>53773862
Go away. Your sorts only make problems.
>>53773862
fuck off
>>53773853
>>53773839
DejaVu fonts are less evil since they weren't created by Google.
>all these people telling someone who desires attention to get lost, without realizing that's what he wants
It's hard to say who's more retarded; you or him.
>>53773894
I'll stop tripfaggin' for a while. For some reason a lot of you are giving me hate like I'm the only tripfag on /g/. Weird shit but I don't have the energy to fight it, I'm here only to provide help.
/g/ used to be comfy for mature people. It's sad to see this has changed.
How can I break through a 'write protected' flash drive?
There's no physical switch and it wasn't write protected a month ago.
>>53773933
Noto is actually updated Dejavu. They are better and free as in freedom. Not everything Google does is evil. Don't be autistic.
>>53773971
Yes, the license checks out, but it being from Google has a bitter aftertaste.
>>53773971
BOTNET
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>RUN FUR YER LIJVES
compiling funtoo. anything to expect?
>>53773989
>but it being from Google has a bitter aftertaste.
That's just your bfs cum
>>53774001
More compiling.
>>53774001
Expect too have fun
>>53774001
>wants to compile everything
For what purpose?
>>53774053
Muh sekret klub of course
>>53774053
>For what purpose?
for the glory of Satan!
>tfw want to use libreboot
t400 hardware is weak
>>53774053
I'd hit it.
>>53773872
what? you are trying to ruse me rn? the hdd have had that sound for like 3 years or something.
>>53774109
It's not like you can use better hardware
>>53774109
Meh, it's alright. X200 here and can't complain.
Haven't Librebooted it yet, though. Need a free weekend so I can feel comfortable having time spare.
how do i backup an 8tb mdadm array onto 3x3tb external drives?
>>53774001
Nothing special. Funtoo isn't some scary distro like some people want you to believe (mostly Arch users). If you run into any issues, feel free to ask. I'm a happy Funtoo user on my desktop and laptop. Just finished writing an ebuild for my irc channel's own overlay.
>>53774328
make a tar fie
split into 3 parts using split
reassemble when needed
>>53774328
btrfs
$ dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde1
dd: writing to ‘/dev/sde1’: Read-only file system
1+0 records in
0+0 records out
0 bytes (0 B) copied, 60.0846 s, 0.0 kB/s
what do?
>>53774388
sudo
>>53774388
>writing to ‘/dev/sde1’: Read-only file system
>>53774388
What are you trying to achieve? If you want to zero out the device, use `sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sde`
>>53774388
>Read-only file system
you blind?
have you tried as root?
what does lsblk say?
I'm installing void linux right now. The installer is as fast as debian, I'm surprised, considering it's inspired by BSD I thought it would be like gentoo.
>>53774007
>>53774012
>>53774053
>>53774351
using kernel 'debian-source' since it was recommended by a wiki.
>>53774441
The flash drive at /dev/sde broke or something and now it appears as read-only and can't be formatted.
I've tried to fix it but zeroing the drive was always my fallback. Now it isn't working.
>>53774447
This is in cygwin so everything's "root", I'll try it on my real linux system in a minute.
>>53774486
>The flash drive at /dev/sde broke or something and now it appears as read-only and can't be formatted.
If there's no physical switch that could trigger such behaviour it means that flash module/controller is bonked.
Throw the device in the garbage, there's nothing you can do.
Nowadays those are considered "disposable electronics".
>>53774472
I can hardly see anything in that image. But nothing wrong with the debian kernel if you dont want to fiddle around with the thousands of kernel options. Don't forget that Funtoo comes with a pre-compiled debian kernel in the stage3 tarball.
If you want something more up to date and still dont want to go through the kernel configuration, you can conveniently take the precompiled Voidlinux kernel. It's more up to date than Arch and it's basically a vanilla kernel with most hardware supported.
It's in my overlay in case you want to have even easier access to it.
>>53774472
>129KB
the upper upload limit is 3.5MB I hope you're aware of that.
Less compression, I can't see shit
>>53774542
>>53774566
the gentoo livecd came with ffmpeg 2.3, so i didnt expect the default bitrate to be horrendous.
i have source code for kernel 4.5rc1 on my ftp server so i might just use that.
>>53774674
4.5rc1 is outdated, there's a proper 4.5 release already.
2 quick questions:
is there a recent guide to debloat ubuntu?
how do I remove unity? I want to learn i3 .
Can I use a .pcf font in my Linux console?
Trying to install gentoo as a beginner without using the Manual is veeeeery frustrating.
Does the manual explain everything I need and should know?
>>53774717
>is there a recent guide to debloat ubuntu?
For what purpose?
Packages merely existing on your installation do not slow it down.
This is not fucking Windows Registry
>>53774717
>is there a recent guide to debloat ubuntu?
Use the netinstaller.
>how do I remove unity?
sudo apt-get remove unity, but expect shit to break.
>I want to learn i3
Just install i3 and select it upon login if you want to try it out.
>>53774743
>Does the manual explain everything
Yes.
>>53774743
Why would you try to install Gentoo if you're not experienced with Linux?
>>53774775
It is the headover experience I am looking for.
>>53774761
because im using a VM and I have limited space
>>53774764
i wanted to remove unity for the reason above, so is it not recommended? I thought that by not using it it would be useless to have
>>53774072
Satanhu akbar!
>>53774801
>so is it not recommended
afaik Unity is tied into a lot of shit on Ubuntu. But I don't use Ubuntu myself, so I can't test it for you.
It's useless to have if you don't use it, but if you want a clean ubuntu, install with the netinstaller.
>>53774711
alright, i have my server getting 4.5.
the livecd says it has gcc4.8.3, has gcc5.3 been released for funtoo? or would i have to do it myself?
>>53774888
Nice trips.
>has gcc5.3 been released for funtoo
It's in portage, but masked by default. 4.9.3 is the latest unmasked version. But if you feel like it, you can unmask 5.3.0 and just compile it. Compiling gcc can take quite some time, so be sure you have nothing better to do for a while if you're going to upgrade to 5.3.0.
>>53774801
>so is it not recommended?
Not recommended because APT dependency resolving doesn't handle such operations very well.
You won't remove just unity.
You will remove large portions of your system.
By removing Unity and it's deps completely, and installing i3 you will be left with nothing but xorg running i3.
No file manager, no browsers, no management, no nothing.
If you're constricted on space my recommendation would be installing either xubuntu or lubuntu and then adding i3 on top of it.
XFCE desktop (panels, wm etc) don't take massive amounts of storage.
The rest of the XFCE you will need anyways (thunar, applets etc)
>>53774858
>>53774959
ok ty
>>53774959
>>Not recommended because APT dependency resolving doesn't handle such operations very well.
Found the faggot who can't read manpages.
apt is fine.
>>53775009
When did debianfags become arch-tier cancer on /g/?
APT is garbage which fails at the one fucking job it was tasked to do, managing packages.
Me not reading the fucking manpage is not an excuse for it to remove half of my fucking OS when I requested to remove a package.
Do I install debian stable or testing if I'm planning on dist-upgrading to sid?
>>53774737
Console only supports a bitmap font format called PSF/PSF2. Maybe you can find a conversion tool.
>>53775130
gentoo
>>53775130
It doesn't matter.
So I'm a total beginner, I planned to chose ubuntu but apparently it gone bad (?)
Do I take debian instead ?
>>53775152
I was thinking of installing funtoo to be honest,
>>53775199
Ubuntu was never good, it was just popular.
Debian was always kinda better. It's a good first stop until you know enough about linux to have your own preferences.
>>53775092
When did /g/ become too stupid to use fucking noobuntu?
Is there a distro that implements Xfce especially well? For example, I often hear that openSUSE is considered to be the distro with the best implementation of KDE and I was wondering if there was an equivalent "best distro" for xfce.
>>53775293
openSUSE
>>53775270
thanks
>Ubuntu was never good, it was just popular.
why ?
>>53775306
Basically it takes Debian, adds a lot of bloat, and removes a massive amount of usability features that basically every other distribution has.
For example with Ubuntu it's so difficult to successfully change the WM/DE that there are entire forks of Ubuntu that only change the DE. In Debian you'd run two lines in your terminal and then logout and log back in.
>>53774387
like turn them into one large volume or what?
>>53775270
Ubuntu is literally debian testing with it's own patches.
Ubuntu is literally debian fitted for desktop use.
Ubuntu is literally hardened debian security wise.
Stop spreading this shitty meme about debian being some god-knows-what distro.
It's generic crap with shitty package management, shitty policies behind it (debian nonfree policy is literally the worst fucking cobbled trash that doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever).
It's only advantage is binary packages for all the architectures under the sun.
Kudos for them, that's useful if you have an obscure machine with obscure cpu architecture.
>>53775199
To be honest, it doesn't really matter. Ubuntu is based on Debian and for your purposes there's virtually no difference. As far as I'm aware Ubuntu is more inclined to work out of the box, with Debian you might have to tinker with some driver bullshit or something a long those lines.
Ubuntu has a lot more support online, but most of that support transfers to Debian as well (but you have to have some experience for reference).
>>53774328
dd them into a single file
archive the file (using xz/gz/whateverz you like the best)
split the file into three parts
done
>>53775351
>It's generic crap with shitty package management, shitty policies behind it (debian nonfree policy is literally the worst fucking cobbled trash that doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever).
I know. That's why I don't use Debian on anything, and generally reject Debian users as either new or hopelessly confused.
But I will say his, Debian is probably the best, easiest distro to use if you actually are new and know nothing about linux.
>>53775368
>dd them into a single file
good lord why wouldn't you use tarballs?
>>53775334
Thanks for the enlightenment senpai.
In the last thread some anon asked how te change resolution of the fullscreen text consoles. Checkman setupcon. It can change the font size which is the same shit.
>>53775383
>>53775351
I don't understand. I'm a seasoned Linux user, what's so horrible about APT? Please no memes, if there's extensive docs about it feel free to link them. Is the main gripe the way it handles dependencies? I've been using APT for at least 3 years and I've never once had it uninstall half my OS or whatever. Is it a bug in APT that causes that?
Do other package managers have features that APT is missing? What neat stuff is APT preventing me from doing?
>>53775383
>>53775605
Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system “Linux” is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.
I don't have any experience with Linux, or computers in general, but I'm interested in learning.
I have access to CentOS/Redhat training videos.
From what I understand, CentOS and RH are more geared toward enterprise and business applications, not your average user.
I have an interest in software development, and plan to pursue that later, but for now I'm studying more foundational stuff.
Anyway, my question is, how transferrable are the skills I'm learning in this course. I'll probably switch over to Ubuntu once I'm done with the course, and I wonder if I'd be better suited studying a course based on a distribution that's more or less intended for individual end users. I'm very early in the course, so it's not like I'm losing a bunch of time I've already invested.
Thanks!
I tried arch but I didn't like it. I used to use debian but can't install it on this machine because I only have wireless and need nonfree firmware but the nonfree firmware live cds don't actually install the firmware to the PC on a net install.
I need a distro that I can install from a netinst image where wireless will actually work. Do I have to install gentoo?
Switched my main computer from Win7 to Linux, what IDE should I use?
Used Eclipse/PHPStorm on Windows.
>>53775695
>Do I have to install gentoo?
always
>>53775715
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>53775715
vim
>>53775619
How do you know that >>53775605 isn't a Linux user who doesn't use GNU? It's true that being a "seasoned apt user" is correlated with having an apt-managed-gnu system but it's also quite possible to have a custom system managed with apt that doesn't manage a GNU system.
>>53775652
First of all, CentOS is RHEL without the paid subscription, they're binary compatible distributions compiled from the same sources (with trademarked content of redhat removed).
Second of all, redhat's training videos are geared toward RHCSA and RHCSE certs. (engineer being the more advanced level of administrator).
They're about system administration, so have little in common with software development. I wouldn't get excited about those materials.
> I'll probably switch over to Ubuntu once I'm done with the course, and I wonder if I'd be better suited studying a course based on a distribution that's more or less intended for individual end users
If you intend to learn software development oriented on RHEL platform (which really is fucking anything from mission critical shit to medical equipment) the distro I would recommend you would be Fedora.
First, it's a very developer-oriented distro.
And second, Fedora (both as a system and the infrastructure around it - funded by redhat) will provide you all the tools for rhel development, rpmbuild, coprs, etc
But of course anything really can be achieved on any distribution, this is all up to your preferences.
>>53775791
>>53775652
Package management is different. Pretty different. But all other knowledge you get from those vids should be usable in every GNU+Linux distribution. If you want to learn a lot, try something like Funtoo. If you want to learn in smaller steps, go for Ubuntu netinstaller or Debian, and see if you want to go deeper later.
Software development is a breeze in pretty much every distribution once you've customized it to your liking. If you want to make actual packages out of it, I've found ebuilds (the package definitions for Gentoo/Funtoo) are by far the easiest to write, so you can easily test it.
>>53775715
Both are available on GNU+Linux, so you should be fine. If you want to go hard, spend some weeks learning vim.
>>53775810
Sup RH shill, where have you been the last threads?
>>53775847
If you don't have anything to contribute to this thread - don't post
QICK SHOULD I INSTALL FEDORA OR MANJARO FOR MY NEXT OS
>>53775605
Apt is really, REALLY bad at not sperging out over dependencies. It's great if you literally never uninstall anything but I've had cases were just trying to uninstall Xfce caused it to uninstall obviously necessary stuff like systemd. Do you know what it's like to try and boot up a system that doesn't have a PID1 installed? It ain't easy.
>>53775964
Manjaro.
>>53775964
Fedora. Manjaro is buggy as hell
>>53775968
newfag, seriously. Get your shit together and learn how package managers work before you vomit the bullshit you call "post".
>>53775964
install whatever the fuck you want
bear in mind manjaro is garbage distro built on top of garbage distro with project maintainers being incompetent
>>53776010
Nice meme.
>>53776004
>and learn how package managers work before you vomit the bullshit you call "post".
>apt-get remove gnome-desktop
>jolly good friend it seems like you don't fucking need xorg, firefox and libreoffice either!
APT developers should learn how package managers work as well.
>>53776004
I'm actually speaking directly from experience. I was a Debian use through and through until about eight months ago when trying to uninstall something (I think it was Komodo Edit?) resulted in it uninstalling Python and thus destroying GNOME. I could have spent a few hours in a recovery shell fixing it all but it wasn't the first time it had happened so I just dumped it and moved to Arch.
>>53776010
>all I know about linux are /g/ memes
t. the post
apt fags in full damage control
>>53776098
>I fucked up my system
>apt's fault
lel
>>53776093
>meme meme meme meme meme
m. eme
I'm running Debian with Xfce on my laptop. Suddenly, all the audio's gone and I can't find any way to bring up some sort of audio settings.
I can increase and decrease the volume on my keyboard, but to no effect
Help?
>>53776145
looks like apt removed your sound
>>53776119
I'm fairly FUCKING sure apt removing SHIT i didn't fucking ASK it to remove is apt's fault.
Fuck off you thick headed retard
>>53776145
Quality distro™ there mate.
So lincucks, how's life without games these days?
>>53776170
please no trolling m8
I know you're on a roll with apt, but this is not about that
>>53776145
>apt users think this is okay
>>53776197
Learn how package managers work.
>>53776199
Why would you post one of the men that are behind bringing games to Linux and making a push for it?
I mean I know you're just shitposting but at least put forth some effort
>>53776199
Like a life of someone who's not 12 anymo
More responsibilities.
But at least I can drink alcohol without my parents yelling at me.
Bretty good if you ask me.
>touch on text box
>keyboard comes up
>touch away from text box
>keyboard goes away
>nice.jpg
>touch back on textbox
>no keyboard
>try a bunch of other text boxes (etc.)
>no keyboard
>check the settings
>it's set to come up when I enter text
>it doesn't
>it did once
>but not anymore
Fucking hell Unity is shit. It's a shame that all the other DEs are even worse for touch shit.
>>53776239
newfag
>>53776214
>>53776197
>>53776170
>>53776110
Holy fuck you guys, who invited /v/ ?
>>53776239
It's not unity being shit. It's apt.
>>53776239
>manually open onboard keyboard so it doesn't go away
>open up start center to open my terminal
>keyboard disappears
>opening up the keyboard closes the start center
i want to get off mr apts wild ride
>>53776239
This scenario has nothing to do with unity you sperg.
>>53775139
Thanks
>>53776306
It's using unity's keyboard utility.
>>53776216
Tell that to APT developers so maybe they release something that isn't complete and absolute garbage.
If I had to learn how every single component of my OS works I would write my own fucking OS.
But of course learning how package managers work is in every debian nigger's schedule since they have to do everything manually when apt shits the bed.
It's like Arch faggots making excuses for pacman overwriting their configs.
>>53776262
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b--bb--b-but
kek, i think you forgot an angry frog picture you daft cunt.
>have pc problem
>anon tells me sudo rm -rf ~ will solve the problem
>do it
>deleted my home directory
>t-thanks apt
>>53776331
>2016
>using a pc
>>53776262
>>53776277
>>53776331
You're getting desperate
Go draw some gay ass pink swirls to calm you down.
$ sudo apt-get install icecat
Reading package lists... Done
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package icecat
Wtf? Even Arch as this shit.
THIS IS A FRIENDLY GNU/LINUX THREAD.
SO PRETTY PLEASE WITH A CHERRY ON TOP, BE FUCKING NICE.
Enough flaming. Stop replying to flamers.
>>53776375
fuck off pedo
>>53776384
no fuck you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zixpms1oo40
l33t h4xx0r
>>53775695
Funtoo. Seriously.
>>53776509
$0.16 has been deposited into your account.
>>53776509
>>hardware makes it hard with anything but arch or ubuntu and I don't want to use those
mind if i ask why exactly?
arch I can understand, but ubuntu?
what makes debian not runnable on your hardware?
>>53776382
Isn't icecat just a firefox rebrand like iceweasel?
>>53776488
great video.
may i get a job with his help
>>53776659
No, it's a throughout debloated 'refresh' of Firefox that basically makes it a lot faster and takes out all the bullshit.
It's also free but it's not like that really matters.
If you HAD to pick one for your desktop and one for your laptop (even if you don't tend to use DE's) which DE's would you get?
I know it's a very subjective question, but still, I'm looking for hot opinions
I'm leaning towards GNOME on my desktop and KDE on my laptop, but I'm open to suggestions
I don't feel confident enough to begin rolling without a DE just yet.
>>53776692
awesome
>>53776692
mate
Silly question, but still:
Are university mirrors of distros usually 100% clones of the official sources and up to date?
If not, what is the purpose of their existence? Just trying to take some load off the traffic rom the main sources?
>try to turn off computer
>`systemctl poweroff`
>get a thousand SQUASHFS errors
>computer just sits there, not turning off
I WANT TO GET OFF MR APTS WILD RIDE
>>53776789
Yes, they're like poor man's CDNs.
>>53776789
Yeah they're usually identical - hence the term "mirror".
The reason universities have them is because they usually have internet connections several orders of magnitude faster than private industries could access, rivalling even some governments. So yeah it's to help take the load off the main sources, and because they're the best equipped to do so.
>>53776825
>Poor man's CDNs
>Faster than private industries
I'm getting mixed signals here guys
>>53776798
>systemctl poweroff
>not just shutdown now
>
>>53776825
>>53776842
i have a feeling you guys are from very different parts of the world
>>53776882
kek. post stupid commands you used to dokill $(pgrep x)
>>53776881
CDN's lose out in terms of connection speed per server, but CDNs are usually massive, load-bearing international networks capable of intelligently redistributing access requests, while normal school mirrors can't do anything of the sort.
is there a way to have incremental backups and have it split automatically over 3 drives?
>>53776938apt-get
>>53776798
>>53776882
>>53776938
This is getting sad. Please stop samefagging and contributing nothing to the thread.
Don't even bother replying
>>53776984
The last guy is me and I legitimately want to know what stupid commands peopled used to do when they were new.
>>53776984
fuck your shit
>>53776984
?
I've been greentexting shitbuntu stories all thread, but only one of the guys you replied to is me.
>>53777007
>>53777027
What font is that?
>>53777059
Lucidia Grande
>>53777173
thanks m8
If you guys have some time to read, this blog post is really interesting.
Kinda gives you an insight into the clusterfuck that Windows development has become nowadays
http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=74
>>53772708
I thought that was Gabe Newell.
>>53777268
newfag, gtfo back to >>>/v/
I'm very confused by something, maybe you guys can help me understand
Sometimes when I'm partitioning my disks during a distro install and I set a size in GB, when I actually boot up into the system it shows another size for that partition (often smaller). Even using GParted sometimes can tell me it's using some other size And if I reformat/partition a drive and use it on another machine (doesn't even have to be linux, happens in windows too) it can show different sizes.
What is this rampant discrepancy due to? It's like a mystery to me.
Why do you get file dialog if you type "file:///" into your browser?
Is this a security issue or is it just alternative way to browse files?
>>53777238
>Yes, there are some components that I feel could benefit from more experienced maintenance, but we're not talking about letting monkeys run the place. (Besides: you guys have systemd, which if I'm going to treat it the same way I treated NTFS, is an all-devouring octopus monster about crawl out of the sea and eat Tokyo and spit it out as a giant binary logfile.)
kek
>>53777482
Why would it be a security issue? As far as I know it's just an old shortcut that has stayed
>>53777438
Different filesystems will report differently,its how the filesystem is created
>>53777564
If they report it differently, which are the more "accurate" so to speak?
Meaning, which are the closest to tell you how much space they're actually occupying?
Or is it that each file system actually varies in their definition of how big a megabyte is, for example? (I don't think this is it because it sounds ridiculous, but then again I know almost nothing about data units and how they relate to real world measurements)
Embrace.
Extend.
Extinguish.
>>53777552
>Why would it be a security issue? As far as I know it's just an old shortcut that has stayed
Just seems odd that it would display hidden files and all just straight up in your browser.
Does it even follow file permissions?
i used to dual boot win/linux for a few years but in the last few months i used linux on a VM inside windows, nevermind why, and i just fell in love with the snapshot feature.
it's just so fucking comfy. everything is backed up to the bits in your registers. don't have to worry about fucking up your system or leaving a mess when you try something out. can switch between different "forks" of your VM state. it's fantastic.
but there's a performance problem, obviously. so now i'm thinking of dual booting again, but i want to have the same flexibility has VM snapshots. does such a thing exist when running linux on metal?
>>53777675
rsync and Grsync
thank me later
>>53777675
I think I found a memory leak bug of some sort with aptitude.
I did a fresh install of Debian Jessie and switched my sources to testing, so I could change them to unstable soon after that.
I logged in to the terminal as root with su, and did aptitude update, aptitude upgrade. Meant to do aptitude dist-upgrade right after that.
It spent over half an hour detecting dependency issues, and I opened up my system monitor tab and at one point it was barely using the CPU and my 8GB of RAM plus 4 more in swap, and increasing, with no end in sight.
I had to kill off the process and tried sudo aptitude full-upgrade instead. Now it's going mega fast and using basically nothing in resources
What the fuck happened there? Anybody know?
>>53777623
XFS/EXT4/Reiser4FS/JFS formats differently then NTFS/FAT32/FAT16.
Its how each filesystem setups everything
>>53777778
Clarifying - it was using barely no CPU, but it WAS using the full 8GB of RAM plus 50% of swap, and increasing. Now with sudo aptitude full-upgrade the whole system is using below 500 MB of RAM and barely using the CPU, going at sanic speeds with the upgrading
I'm stumped
>>53777675
btrfs
I'm going to install funtoo, but before I do I have some questions. I don't want to do a vanilla kernel because I'd rather do that later. Does the debian kernel that's included have all the nonfree blobs stripped out?
>>53777699
what about this http://rsnapshot.org/ ?
>>53777778
scroll up ITT
Hello guise
I started using Linux like 5 years ago, and around three years ago decided to stop dual booting. I tried some distros but settled on Mint pretty fast. Truth be told, it has worked great. I normally use XFCE, tried to use a wm but couldn't quite get some things and XFCE works great anyway.
I sort of feel the itch to try something new.
What direction should I follow? I'm open to pretty much any suggestion.
>>53778063
arch+openbox
>>53778063
I switched from Mint to Debian about a month ago and I love it. You should feel right at home, since Mint is based on Ubuntu, and Ubuntu is based on Debian.
I tried Arch and openSUSE but they weren't my cup of tea, personally
>>53778105
>>53778063
oh, and right after you get Debian Jessie, upgrade it to testing and then unstable.
The name 'unstable' needs context. It's less stable than the Stable release, obviously, but it is still quite solid. And don't even try to download ISO's for Testing or Unstable. You're supposed to get jessie and build it up from there if you wanna do that
If you don't care about newer packages, just ignore this and stay on Stable (jessie)
Just so you get an idea, Ubuntu is based on Debian Unstable.
>>53778162
I was going to ask exactly that. I didn't quite understand what stable and unstable meant in the context.
I'll be installing tomorrow I guess. I hope everything goes right.
>>53778083
This feels tempting too. Like, truly different from what I have been using. I'll try it out in another computer.
>>53778207
Just remember to back your shit up. And try to have another computer close at hand to look stuff up online if you have any doubts/questions.
I made a lot of stupid mistakes when installing Debian but that's because I was used to Mint holding my hand a lot through things. On the flip side, I learned more about Linux on the first few weeks of using Debian than in a year of using Mint
>>53778162
Thank you very much, btw.
Favourite things about Openbox?
>>53776320
>pacman override
You mean saving it to .pacsave when it has changed from the default install?
Or installing the new config as .pacsave since it noticed a change to the default config?
>>53778239
>>53778241
No problem. Arguably the best way to do a debian install is via a net install. You just burn this small 300MB ISO to a usb or cd, and boot from it.
It's a minimal installation to reduce bloat, and it lets you select what DE you want out of the box (you can pick Xfce there for example). It downloads any files it needs from the internet while installing. I recommend you use an ethernet connection though, who knows if your wifi card's drivers will be included in the .iso from the get-go. If they aren't it's no big deal, you can just plop them in with another usb or download them from the package manager once you installed debian.
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/
that's the link for the easiest one. It includes non-free firmware. If you want to be strict and reject non-free things on your OS, try the official netinst. Beware that this might make things a bit more complicated, but there's the option
https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>>53778162
>Just so you get an idea, Ubuntu is based on Debian Unstable
Sort of, it's a mixture of unstable and testing, but mostly unstable.
I keep getting this error when doing aptitude updateErr link_to_mirror
Writing more data than expected (7089342 > 7088270)
Fetched 2,463kB in 7s
W: Failed to fetch link_to_mirror : Hash Sum mismatch
W: Failed to fetch link_to_mirror : Writing more data than expected (7089342 > 7088270)
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
It's probably because I had to close the terminal while it was updating, to pick where it left off later. How can I delete the cache of pending updates so that it doesn't give me this Hash mismatch issue?
reposting
>finally decide to try linux
>go with linux mint
>install process goes fine. restart pc and the problems start
>login screen displays in a pretty small resolution and runs like shit
>firefox runs like shit
>games run like shit
>videos run like shit. anything on youtube is guaranteed to lock up the computer
>get steam set up after looking around online to figure out why it wouldn't start, and it likes to get stuck randomly. like i cant click the min, max, or close buttons, move the window around, open another program from the panel, or anything
as far as i know i've updated everything but i'm still running into problems. i've also tried the three different graphics drivers and none seem to make any difference. what the hell have i done to make it run so badly? here's my specs:
>Intel i7 @ 2.80GHz
>8GB RAM
>R9 280
>>53778646
If you arent using nvidia,get KMS working.
If you are using nvidia,make sure nvidia-libgl is being used over mesa-libgl
So does Nouveau work well enough for games yet, or is it an absolute shitshow?
>>53778646
if on the first install you used free software drivers, it'd probably be a lot easier for you to reinstall with a proprietary .iso, making sure you get all the nvidia/amd proprietary drivers.
from my experience, it's difficult switching drivers (especially 3 times) for a beginner.
>>53778727
the free drivers are fine, but NOT for steam
>>53778509
try$ sudo aptitude autoclean
>>53778646
Linux Mint is built on Ubuntu 14.04
The R9 280 got relased in March 2014.
I had the same kind of problems with wonky drivers back in the day as well (R9 270 then, R9 285 now). So I'm recommending you to try a newer OS. My R9 285 works fine with Xubuntu 15.10 and fglrx-updates
>>53778700
he's not. its a R9 280.
>>53777640
Pretty heinous of Canonical to do that. They are embracing windows and extending it with GNU. App development will target Ubuntu now by default, windows extinguished :^)
Would you say it is advisable to have your root partition be 20 GB, your var be 10 GB and the rest going to home?
Or just make your root be 30 GB? Or some other scheme?
>>53778162
>>53778436
>Sort of, it's a mixture of unstable and testing, but mostly unstable.
if by "based on" you mean "got forked from Debian sid and testing ages ago and has been its own branch and ecosystem ever since with minimal backwards compatiibility", then yes.
>>53778800
why do you want your root that big?
what distro are you running
>>53778800
Just make everything a fully encrypted LVM with swap included, and /boot 1GB
thats how I do it.
>>53778840
Debian. I feel like I don't really know what I'm doing partition wise, though.
Saw the arch wiki recommended
>/ - 15-20 GB
>/var - 8-12 GB
so I was curious
>>53778863
What's LVM for? and is it easy to screw up the encryption of a drive?
>>53778874
LVM = logical volume management
I always found the debian partition manager to be confusing as fuck
fuck that ncurses bullshit
>>53778727
Noveau is shit for anything but 2D.
NVIDIA likes to play dirty tricks since they found out about nouveau like making the STOCK clock rates 5mhz and memory clock 10mhz Since it is reversed enginerred, they dont have the shit they need to change it. Same goes with power manager ment. You're stuck in the lowest power level clockings
>>53778874
I'm no partition master but I used the arch wiki's guide for swap.
their recommendations for /root partition are overly safe imo. I also left FREE SPACE (not partitioned) for other OSs later.
the reason why you would want more partitions for home or var would be for other OS's root partition to access without wiping all your existing files.
>>53778863
What are the benefits of encrypting your drive, aside from making it tough for law enforcement to physically remove and snoop at your data?
Does it add some form of security to remote attacks as well or what?
I'm sorry if this is a dumb question, I'm kind of clueless in respect to that
