Why aren't you using Debian GNU/Linux?
What's the matter, ricers?
Too stable for you?
Because Debian SJWnux.
Do not support companies with ties to the regressive left.
>>53772040
I really want to like debian, but stuff like not having sudo out of the box and having old packages, even in the testing branch makes it a no. I can't have it for more than a couple days without getting tired and change back to another distro. I could try Sid, but at that point it makes more sense to use a distro that was actually thought be a rolling release like gentoo or arch.
It's great for server stuff tough.
Are you seriously just running as root all of the time?
>debian users
They stole their logo from buzz lightyear's chin and their release names from other toy Story character
>>53772559
their logo is actually just a stock adobe brush preset that they swirled
Because I use CentOS which is superior in stability.
>>53772571
Yes
But they got the idea from Buzz
>>53772589
>I use even older packages
>>53772600
well you're the expert on kids stuff here, I'll take your word for it
what's your nomination for toy of the year so far?
>>53772647
i feel like this was supposed to be an insult, but somehow it didn't sound nearly as good as it did in your head
>>53772702
it wasn't, I'm honestly curious
last time it was a neat bug vehicle
Because Ubuntu LTS is supported for at least 5 years.
>>53772040
im using Ubuntu senpai
>>53773009
What does Firefox look like?
but i am
>>53772040
The kernel is too old.
It wouldn't support hardware I use.
Sid might be good enough, but it still has systemd.
I am currently trying out Fedora GNU/Linux.
>>53773105
>debian unstable
>stable
>>53773175
somehow still more stable than Arch
I never had a Debian machine that didn't crash day 1. Not trolling, not trying to start a flame war, just the truth. YMMV
>2016
>not using gentoo
>>53773009
What de is that?
>>53773369
it says it right there baka
>>53772040
>Least stable distro
>Run by SJWs who always get politics in the way of things
>Ubuntu is better anyways.
>>53773264
That is quite an achievement.
No manual entry for patience
>>53772040
Debian has SJW devs
>>53773266
>root
Because I run Funtoo and Arch.
Ubuntu just works fine for me. Debian is hard to set up. And it's overrated.
I am.
>>53774191
>Debian is hard to set up
buy a mac
>>53773819
debian has over 1000 devs (these are not just package maintainers they actually write code). I'm sure there are many varying types of devs.
>>53773264
wow you're fucking stupid
>>53772040
>3.16
KEK
>>53773116
>still has systemd
>i know nothing about technical things, but I'm on the clueless train of systemd hate because I don't understand more important things worth insightful thought.u
this thread
>>53774191
>Debian is hard to set up.
lol no
can't install with my wireless because freetardism
Thanks /g/, recently installed Debian and now I'm finally comfy
>>53776599
>b-b-but muh spooky sjws! i need everyone to lineup with my political stances and no others!
>>53776907
Because I'm not using any custom gtk theme or icon pack or font I presume
>>53772216
>I really want to like debian, but stuff like not having sudo out of the box and having old packages, even in the testing branch makes it a no. I can't have it for more than a couple days without getting tired and change back to another distro. I could try Sid, but at that point it makes more sense to use a distro that was actually thought be a rolling release like gentoo or arch.
sudo can be installed out of the box with the expert installation, mate. And don't ever use developer branches like testing or unstable (sid) for your production environment. Either use backports for your beloved updated packages, or move to a different distribution entirely. Debian is not for everyone, which is fine.
You're right about one thing though.
>It's great for server stuff tough.
>>53776794
The fuck is this GNOME version?
Whats this talk of debian with sjws? I thought they were immune...
running debian 8 stable for a year now on my laptops tho
>>53776990
>>53777015
Freetards are literally socialists. Debian is the main freetard distro (that is actually a real distro at the same time)
>>53777166
socialism has nothing to do with SJWs.
>>53777284
It's just as bad.
i use it on my second computer, it's great.
>>53772257
yeah because we aren't idiotic pussies who screw up their OS
I use it on my SBC and VPS due to lack of better options but prefer using BSD operating systems where I can
>>53772257
Does it matter on a desktop/laptop used by one person? Even if you set up a proper user almost all the files you care about will be owned by that user anyway.
>>53777745
It does matter because you're running all of your processes with root permission. If any of them go rogue, they can fuck everything up. You should execute as little as possible under root.
>>53772647
This year none.
Last year bug racer
>>53777745
It does matter, especially if it's a laptop. What if you walked away for a sec to take a shit or something and some "prankster" wiped your boot drive?
>outdated packages
>apt
>>53772040
I ran debian for a year. It was nice: stable as fuck. Then I fell for the Slackware meme. It is no longer stable. It has pulseaudio and, unlike in debian, you cannot cleanly get rid of it. Yeah, I'm kicking myself for switching from Debian.
>MATE
>No panel borders
I'm good, OP.
>>53777745
That is what is said, but I've never heard of this actually happening
>>53772040
>using debian in 2016
lel
>>53772040
>Too stable for you?
I dunno man, debian unstable isn't unstable at all, and it's packages are newer than the latest 'buntu.
>>53777745
yes, there is no reason to ever use solely the root user unless you're doing something that explicitly needs it, makes it too easy to accidentally fuck something up
>>53777166
Debian is not freetard approved.
Head freetard Richard Stallman hates debian simply because it allows you the option to install non-free software.
Debian went through great strides getting rid of all the proprietary blobs out of the kernel and into the non-free repo, which requires you to know about it by reading it on their wiki.
Simply having this wiki is enough to piss off stallman.
He's not worth pleasing.
But I am
>>53776738
just add the non-free and contrib repos dumbass
>>53772559
Are you seriously spurging about this, who gives a fuck where the name comes from?
>>53773116
systemd is great
>inb4 nice b8
it really is
>>53777935
>falling for the bait
>namefagging still after a week
dude you're fucking retarded
>>53781840
>name comes from
You're right, I must be autistic or something
>>53781855
I really am, I'm also a faggot
>>53781867
kek
>>53772040
But I am
>>53781913
This guys OS is stable as fuck, to stable actually.
He must be retarded
>>53772647
when u try to be edgy but ur rly a circle
>>53776645
Systemd is shit.
I have to babysit it because it starts complaining when I shut down my computer without closing chrome. Also, for some fucking reason my Emacs daemon is dependent on X server and that makes no sense.
I'll probably switch to Gentoo because of that bullshit.
>>53783209
just close chrome, you stupid shit
>>53774024
>muh root
>>53772040
I am though
>>53777166
stop mixing politic and computers you retarded amrican
>>53772095
/thread
I want to, but I didn't have patience to search which of the 999 versions I should use. What the fuck is up with that downloads tab? CD, DVD, netinst, a fuck load of stuff to download...
Jesus, just put it like everyone else.
Can anyome help me with what I should download?
I'm looking for a non bloated distro, I'm using Mint and it's starting to lag everything, Almost 3000 packages and my computer is pretty shit.
>>53779849
kek
>>53785465
>I'm retarded can someone spoonfeed me
>>53785485
Actually that's a good translation of what I wrote.
Thanks in advance.
>>53772040
because I don't want to be crippled
>>53772040
>not using debian and stumpwm
>>53772040
It's not edgy enough
>>53773266
>root
>vapenation
>terminator
dear god. has the gentoo community also been taken over by hipsters?
>>53785599
cool wallpaper, can i have it?
Because muh Xubuntu superior
But I use windows/linux.
>>53785626
>that dock
>trying to replicate one of OS X's worst features
>>53773533
Yeah, even Ubuntu crashes constantly too. RPM based distros and arch distros work fine and are completely stable with my hardware. I think it's an issue with some of the hardware I have.
>>53776617
and you're a genius on /g/
>>53785625
I got it from Konachan, I think. The "scenic" tag has lots of similar ones.
>>53785689
thanks.
>>53785668
>dock
>bad
hahahaha, welcome to 1998, fucking mongrel
>>53785723
It's useless. Even in OS X I haven't used it in years
>>53772040
Stability largely depends on users' decisions
>>53772040
>stable = ancient
Nah, the only reason people use it on servers is because it saves them from having to reconfigure their daemons every few months. There is no reason to use it on a desktop where new features are generally appreciated.
>>53781738
>Simply having this wiki is enough to piss off stallman.
Nope, hosting non-free repos (and installation images) then claiming it isn't an "official" part of Debian is pissing him off. Why would you expect the head of the FSF to endorse such a distro?
>>53772040
Used it once, moved to gentoo, living happily ever after. Plus gentoo is more stable
>>53772040
Debian is my preferred Linux, and is where most of my real computation happens. I'm on Windows 8.1 at the moment because it's a company-issue laptop and they won't let us wipe the image. It's a glorified fucking terminal.
>SSH, VNC, RDP clients
>XMPP client
>Firefox
>vSphere
We use Google Apps so I don't even need MS Orifice, even though it's installed.
>>53773009
Source for wallpaper?
>>53773009
nvm, found it
http://rstreeter.deviantart.com/art/N-Blox-412804791
>>53773175
Debian Stable = Old and static
Debian Unstable = Stable
Debian Sid = Unstable
>>53772040
I don't because muh bleeding edge
>>53785736
You must be mentally retarded.
>>53786550
How so?
>>53772040
Debian will inevitably get shittier as they devote more time and resources to being more "diverse." Talent and skill will take a backseat to ensuring more women are employed there.
Ian Murdoch offing himself doesn't help matters either. Debian will go on a slow decline. Much better off using a non-agenda driven distro.
Debian is still on 2.6 kernel
no thanks
>>53786548
Install Sid
>>53786607
forever
>>53772257
>Are you seriously just running as root all of the time?
>>debian users
Probably because no sudo ootb
>>53786543
>Debian Stable = Old and static
No, you're confusing stable with oldstable[1].
>Debian Unstable = Stable
No, you're confusing unstable with stable[2].
>Debian Sid = Unstable
This one got right[3], but you missed testing[4] and experimental[5]. Besides, you're implying Sid is therefore stable, and this is where I draw the line.
Do not trick people into believing unstable (Sid) is stable, because it is, in fact[3], not. Do not ever rely on development repositories for production environments. If you miss your beloved more updated packages that much, use backports. If you can't deal with that, don't use Debian, because it's clearly not for you.
[1] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable
[3] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable
[4] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting
[5] https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental
>>53786704
You're right I messed up
Debian OldStable = Ancient and unusable by anyone in the current year
Debian Stable = Old and static
Debian Testing = Stable
Debian Sid = Unstable
Debian Experimental = Actually experimental
>>53772040
didn't it's founder die?
>>53786738
Testing isn't stable. Testing is a development repository, which packages have gone through some preliminary testing, but are not deemed safe enough for stable.
I know you're a big fat troll, but stop this nonsense. Stable = stable and you shouldn't deviate from this for production environments.
Like I said, if you miss updated packages this much, use backports, or move to a different distribution.
Matter of fact, why don't you stick with Ubuntu, kid?
>>53786805
I'm rather slim, actually, mr adult.
>>53786777
Founder != project leader
>>53786777
The founder of Debian died long after he retired from being the project lead of Debian.
>>53786822
I'm sure you're a kind, slim, young kid underneath this big fat troll costume.
>2016
>not using Arch/Manjaro
enjoy your shitty os
>>53786607
Ian wasn't involved with the Debian project for years now. Your lack of knowledge about this leads me to dismiss any and all criticism or concerns relating to debian.
>>53786622
3.16 actually
And it's not like you can't install a newer kernel if you need the features. If you know how, that is.
I'd use Lenux but I couldn't get my monitor/GPU working
>>53787356
You probably misspelled something would be my guess
>>53787373
It was some weird driver issue. Without any drivers on Ubuntu I could close and open my monitor and the OS could actually 'hot plug' it back in.
If I installed any driver (including Noveau one), after powering the monitor on I'd get no signal to mini displayport.
It was really weird thing.
>>53772040
Because I'm using Ubuntu
>>53787443
>Not LaTeX.
>>53787417
I have heard of that bug. It might fix it if you unplug, then plug your monitor back in. Bullshit, I know.
>>53787507
Unplug and plug back in might be a momentarily fix every time I open the monitor, but that'd get annoying.
I remember reading that UEFI shouldn't have caused issues with Ubuntu installation, but I had to disable UEFI (a.k.a. enable CMS) to install it
I most likely fucked that up, but it wouldn't boot up from bootloader when I had compability support mode disabled, weird.
I loved both Ubuntu and Xubuntu, very fast installation, very easy to use and great settings panel compared to Wangblows, easy to find drivers from the Software Center - so much better than my current OS which is W10 Enterprise 64b.
>>53772040
>stable
By the time this blast from the past boots to desktop and gives you working graphics and power management, the bleeding edge probably doesn't even support your hardware anymore. Also, enjoy looking for new dev packages.
>testing/unstable
If this fustercluck from the future boots to desktop, don't fucking touch anything before you pray to St. IGNUcius and even then never touch anything with "systemd" in the package name.
>>53772095
desu this is my impression and i'm left wing as fuck
focus on women's issues and minority issues over financial issues was the biggest mistake the left ever made.
SJWs strawman this position as thinking women/minorities should get no attention, which is even more infuriating. (since they will, for example, bring up a wage gap, then attack any policy that doesn't specifically mention the illusory wage gap even if both men and women would be better off.)
>>53787497
>breaking out latex for bullet points
>perioding greentext
>>53787656
That's what real men do, mate. Or AsciiDoc.
>>53772095
Don't try to tell people to stop using something unless you have a damn good alternative for them to use.
Hell, if it's really that bad, literally just fork the fucking distro and redistribute with some slight changes. Now you control the community.
because im using windows 10, and have both
>>53786695
>slow decline. Much bette
su -c "apt install sudo"
>BTFO
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as GNU/Linux or NSA/Windows, is in fact, Windows/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Windows plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Windows system made useful by the NT corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by Microsoft. Many computer users run a modified version of the Windows system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Windows which is widely used today is often called “Windows/Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Windows system, developed by Microsoft. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. NT is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the Windows operating system: the whole system is basically Windows with Linux added, or Windows/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of Windows/Linux.
>>53776794
wallpaper please
>>53787063
>>using manletjaro unironically
>>53773266
>3m uptime
>booting your comp just to post on /g/
k
>>53787542
Turn off secure boot, faggot
>>53789262
I had it turned off.
>>53773009
noob here. how can i make ubuntu like this?
>>53781743
L O N D O N
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N
D
O
N
>>53787063
do you really really like that black/green color scheme?
>>53772216
>>53772257
why is taking 3 minutes to set up sudo a dealbreaker? are you too retarded to do anything beyond a GUI install? why are you even using linux?
>>53772040
Why aren't you using Arch Linux?
What's the matter, gramps?
Too bleeding edge for you?
>>53790043
>Too bleeding edge for you?
Yes, your point? I don't need the latest everything, and if I need the latest thing I'll just get it manually
>>53790077
What's your/OP's point then? I don't need every package to be tested for 5 years
>>53790101
Then don't use it. I'm not OP, his post is retarded too, use what works best for you anon
>>53790189
>use what works best for you anon
Finally someone who gets it
