Why all the hate on here for Linux mint cinnamon 17.3? It just werks.
>>53758017
because it's fucking bloated shit
fuck off
>>53758103
it runs fast as fuck though. if you say otherwise your machine is crap or you are an idiot.
>>53758103
this. it comes preloaded with x11. what a piece of shit.
>>53758017
I've been running it since december when windows 7 shit the bed and i didn't have an activation key so i just went to mint.
It's been great but i will most likely switch to the next mint LTS release which is around April 20th or so.
Don't expect to get any love from /g/ using mint, The Arch autists here will just spam you to death with their inane ramblings.
>>53758103
So is your mum mate but all the lads still love her.
>linuxminthackededition.jpg
ftfy
>>53758200
fucking owned
hii fiiveee
>>53758193
I have to dual boot win10 for some programs. I wasn't happy with the telemetry so use Linux mint for most things everything seems fast using ssd and i5 no issues to speak of.
I was just wondering why all the hate, I'd used Linux before but had a nightmare with drivers etc. I just installed mint got my hp drivers for my wireless printer setup my vpns and never looked back.
>>53758131
you are an idiot if you insist on using bloated garbage over something else that runs just as fast and has FAR less bloat
>>53758131
It's very fast anyone saying otherwise hasn't used it imo.
I installed it because I wanted something unfuckupable for my first kick at uefi dual boot.
Still using it 2 months later.
Shit just werks.
>>53758308
Name me one distro I can install that is as fast and will work with all of my components without having to fuck around reading wikis for hours?
>>53758325
Cool mint and the gang. Like you said it just werks and the price is right.
>>53758269
>I have to dual boot win10 for some programs.
I wasn't aware there were any apps that were only for windows 10
>>53758017
Their website recently got hacked and installation ISOs got replaced with some compromised crap. Can't take this distribution seriously after that.
>>53758333
Xubuntu
>>53758394
Tee fucking hee. I had a pirated copy of win 7 that updated.
Now suck my plums.
A lot of people are put off by the free botnet that was included for a while. The devs don't seem to be competent so it makes people nervous
>>53758423
that could happen to any distro. its fixed now and they where on it right away.
>>53758440
Top Kek.
>>53758480
care to elaborate or are you just repeating what arch fags say just to hear yourself talk?
>>53758480
Proof of botnet or stfu you damn dirty ape.
>>53758499
Not OP, but I'm running Mint now and getting ready to install Xubuntu when the next release comes out in a few weeks. Cinnamon is very good but I don't find myself using most of the features, and XFCE is snappier so why not go back to it? Mint's own release of their xfce version won't be until sometime over the summer.
Because it is popular. If it is popular then 4chan hates it, period. There are no logical reasons for the hate.
>>53758470
I don't think they allow it anymore though, I tried to update an unactivated win7 to 10 and the upgrade worked but 10 stayed unactivated.
>>53758517
The botnet was like a few weeks ago.
>site gets fucked by some random guy
>mint devs notice and don't immediately take the site down to protect users from other potential issues
>entire user database was compromised
>ISOs were poisoned with a literal botnet
There's other issues as well though.
>>53758611
Other issues like what? You're full of shit.
>>53758641
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/
>>53758611
Someone hack the website to point the direct download of an iso to a compromised download on a different site. Retards downloaded it and didn't check the has to make sure their iso was legit. It was still caught and fixed within a single day.
>>53758547
not him, but here
http://thehackernews.com/2016/02/linux-mint-hack.html
>>53758678
>1 guy's autist blog
Another interesting thing is Linux Mint does not update the kernel by default. The devs actually recommend you stay on a kernel release for as long as possible which is a hilariously bad idea when many of the changes in kernel releases are security and stability related. There's also a lot of performance tweaks that you wont be getting this way.
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=111929
>>53758880
That's because if it screws up your OS is fucked. I would rather not risk it unless there is a specific reason to do so.
>>53758996
If it screws up you can just reboot into the previous kernel release.
>>53758193
I'm surprised someone who can't activate Windows 7 is able to use Linux.
or
https://www.linuxmint.com/
>>53758996
>I would rather not risk it unless there is a specific reason to do so
Improved security, stability, functionality and performance aren't reasons good enough?
>>53759084
No because most of that shit isn't true. For the most part the minor updates just add more drivers. Linus refuses to add security to kernel updates.
By need, I mean you are trying to do something, but are unable to unless you update the kernel.
>>53758996
Aside from the obvious solution of just using the previous kernel release, Linux Mint is just a downstream release of Ubuntu and Ubuntu's devs already test kernel releases for regressions. Debian devs do it as well. Kernel releases go through two other sets of devs before they even reach the Mint. What are they even doing that causes a kernel release to break on their system when it doesn't on the other two?
>>53758193
4/20
anti israel CEO
well done Clem
>>53758017
>slow as shit compared to other *buntus
>devs have to customize everything to shit, own forks without compatibility
>updates delayed
>tons of other smaller bugs because on testers
>looks like shit
>>53759224
I don't believe you have ever used a computer if you claim that you have never had an update randomly fail.
>>53759343
>BAWWWW!!!!!! Why isn't it like everything else?!
Because that is the entire point.
>>53759378
So it's shit by purpose?
isn't mint just ubuntu with an ugly desktop and a bunch of useless applications? you'll be better off with ubuntu gnome imhqh.
>>53759388
It's better. You just don't like it because it is different.
>>53759424
It's just ubuntu with a shitty customized DE and no updates
>>53759424
literally just install ubuntu with cinnamon instead of unity and you've got mint without the incompetent devs
>>53759442
>Cinnamon
>shitty
pick one and only one
>>53759442
Senpai it's also got a lot of useful shit for people that don't want to have to install programs later. Little things like the usb writer that just werk make it really usable. It's a great first time distro.
Mint devs aren't bad at design but they probably shouldn't be maintaining an entire OS.
>>53759470
>he really like that ugly piece of shit
>>53759442
i get updates almost daily?
>>53758269
>hate telemetry
>Mint search enhancer and "beautifier"
>>53759475
This. You may call it bloated, but I call it useful because I am not so poor that I am using a computer that is over 20 years old.
>>53759484
>what are themes
Nigga at least attack it on things that matter.
>>53759484
>he really no speak english properly, hurr durr
>>53758308
Arch is actually more bloated mate
>>53759533
>he has no argument so he points out a pointless spelling mistake
Kill yourself. Also funny how mint users defend their piece of shit every fucking time someone points out that it sucks. No, it's not a great distro by any means.
>>53758489
They didn't realize for a month, mate.
>>53758489
It can happen to any distro with shit security and who hosts their isos on a WordPress site.
I have no time to waste with hobby distros.
>>53759563
>has no argument so he calls it ugly in broken english then gets anal pained when called on it
Funny how Mint haters can do nothing but shit post but get bent out of shape when you call them on their bullshit. It's still more popular than your distro of choice, and you just can't stand that.
>>53759564
>lying on the internet
It was literally fixed in less than a day.
>>53759580
>I have no time to waste with hobby distros.
But you do have time to waste whining about them on /g/? Just kill yourself now and get it over with for fuck's sake.
>>53759608
>literally
nice meme word
>>53759580
Then you would be using Mint, Windows, or OSX.
>>53759614
Thread is literally asking why people here don't like Mint.
Why are they STILL using this hideous wallpaper?
>>53758308
>runs just as fast and has FAR less bloat
then what's the point if it can only run _just_ as fast
>>53759628
That doesn't answer my question.
>"I hate seafood!"
>then why'd you eat it?
>"it says seafood on the sign over the door!"
>>53759628
That doesn't change anything.
>>53759608
The forum database literally went on sale in January. Wasn't discovered (or at least acknowledged and acted upon) by the devs until almost a month later, you fucking chav.
>>53759659
DELETE THIS
>>53759647
>Sign says "Why do you hate my seafood?
>guy walks up to counter and explains that the fish you're selling are old and rotting
>OH MY GOD JUST FUCK OFF STOP WASTING YOUR TIME COMPLAINING. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT LEAVE
I was a Mint user for several years but 1) I don't trust them anymore and 2) I have hated them for a while. I mean I hate _them_, Clem et al. I mostly hate Clem because he's a Nazi anti-Semite. I Ubuntu for a while but I Fedora now.
someone should make a thread on the mint forum and ask what they think
see what they have to say about mints security
>>53759711
>>>Sign says "Why do you hate my seafood?
>>guy walks up to counter and explains that the fish you're selling are old and rotting and just keeps bitching for an hour while also whining about how he is in a hurry and too busy to stand around explaining
>Then why not go on about your business?
>>OH MY GOD JUST FUCK OFF ddsadasksdhf
FTFY
>>53759788
Pointing out that Israel is just as corrupt as the people they are fighting against and you don't want to support them makes you a Nazi now?
>>53759462
Ubuntu is shit. Unity is literally being assimilated by gnome as we speak. Eventually they will have to drop it entirely because the entire thing is based on gnome and the gnome devs don't give a shit if their upgrade path coincides with Unity.
This is why the ubuntu software center was dropped for gnome software and the unity file manager had to be dropped because gnome made incompatible changes to it.
Just watch ubuntu will eventually have to dump unity and switch to gnome.
>>53758017
Until you want to download a package and it's 2 fucking years old, along with the rest of the repo.
>>53758017
It's not a meme distro.
>>53759619
Are you just now covering this in school or do you affectionately refer to yourself as a "grammar nazi"? That was literately an appropriate use of the word.
Welp, It's that time of the evening when the shitposters come out of the cracks in the walls. Time to go to bed.
>>53759966
>grammar nazi
nice 2003 forum meme
>>53758996
I keep everything I need on a 4tb share drive for Linux and Windows. I couldn't give a fuck if I need to reinstall tbf.
>>53759036
I can't believe it's not butter.
>>53759544
LMAO
>>53760190
You want a cookie?
>>53759614
5 seconds is SO much time to waste!!!
>>53759621
Windows and OSX is developed by multi-billion dollar corporations with developers being paid for their work.
>>53759659
>until almost a month later
source on that claim?
http://hackerseducation.org/2016/02/21/linux-mint-backdoored-linux-mint-website-hacked-iso-replaced-with-a-backdoored-system/
http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-mint-website-hack-a-timeline-of-events-500719.shtml
>>53759659
>Month later.
<Website hacked : feb 20.
<Warning to change password because hackers obtained copy of database : feb 21
>source: https://www.linuxmint.com/
>it's still on the front page.
>>53760577
Since you like softpedia. Also, Google is your friend. Literally the first result.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-mint-forum-database-compromised-for-at-least-a-month-before-announcement-500901.shtml
>>53760577
https://twitter.com/ChunkrGames/status/688346150622081024
>>53760467
http://www.welivesecurity.com/2016/02/22/linux-mint-hacked/
https://www.helpnetsecurity.com/2016/02/22/linux-mint-hack-backdoored-isos-stolen-forums-database/
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/linux-mint-forum-database-compromised-least-month-before-vareltzis
http://mobile.linuxtoday.com/security/linux-mint-forum-database-compromised-for-at-least-a-month-before-announcement-160224053952.html
Etc... next time do your own fucking homework.
>>53760577
Source: linux mint isn't exactly trustworthy. Also, you got rekt mate.
Cinnamon is missing too many features and desktop applets. I'm too stuck in my ways. I like my virtual desktop applet that shows outlines of all my windows and I like using my scroll wheel to swap between desktops. I like my simple classic style application menu. I like my graphical system monitor applet. etc etc.
>>53760933
>>53760964
>>53761053
I see, that's totally different then. Is up to each one if they deserve a second chance.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3042173/linux/how-linux-mint-is-preventing-future-hacks-and-increasing-security.html
>Etc... next time do your own fucking homework.
no need to be an asshole, man.
Op here so basically I'll be better off switching to xunbuntu because mint devs are fucked in the head, it's frankendebian and security is a joke?
>>53760311
Rustled?
>>53758308
Arch is more bloated dude.. please fuck off.
>>53761697
First of all: No it's not
Second: I wasn't even talking about Arch
Linux is a hobbyist distro. Granted the devs handled the security issue as well as they could but it still brings up the lack of security. The issue with potentially sketchy codecs and lack of security updates is troubling too. It's basically just an extremely out of date Ubuntu, there's no real reason to use Mint over Ubuntu with Cinnamon. Hell just keep it and call it Cibuntu. You don't have to go through as much trouble maintaining an independant distro and you can still keep the design of Cinnamon and include whatever default programs you want on it.
>>53758017
>>53758103
this
but also because everyone on /g/ has weapons grade autism and would rather use arch
>>53759924
You know that's not true since at least one year ? Not that I care, I'm on Debian, but just to inform you.
>>53758017
creators of linux mint do not give a shit about freedom or security
>>53761148
Sorry anon. Having a bad night. My bad, man.
>>53762908
>openSUSE is bad at everything
>>53762908
>Fedora just works
HAHAHAHA
>>53762908
mint 17 is based on ubuntu 14.
>>53763785
wonder why they were using a beta version of leap
>>53761573
Just use Debian or gentoo.
>>53758131
this
it's fucking fast
but yeah rather spend 2 weeks trying to install some unstable as fuck autism distro just so you don't have to manually install those two apps.
>>53758017
There's no hate it's a great distro
>>53763785
>>53763838
>>53763850
What was it and why is it deleted?
>>53764451
>http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-sep15-6way&num=2
>>53759146
Linus from linustechtips?
