GAME OVER
>>53757730
Linux apps always worked on windows and apps dont determine whether an os is good or not
sage
>>53757730
it would be nice the other way around
give CAE software in GNU plus linux
>>53757730
>linux
>apps
Apple faggot spotted
>>53757803
>apps dont determine whether an os is good or not
Windows became popular because of the apps, IOS became popular because of the apps. You're comment is pretty stupid.
you mean iOS
>>53757803
A good OS means nothing without developer support.
>Apps
Literally fuck off
>>53757730
does it have privacy? no? k
When did people start calling desktop applications "apps?"
>not calling them binaries
>pc
>apps
Pick one
>apps
fucking scum and this whole generation
>OSX programs work on Windows
holy fuck. protools here I come
>>53757730
Does Gnome 3 work on Windows 10? no? k.
Sweeet, now I can finally run gimp on windows.
A good DE and some tools from OSX would fix most problems in Windows.
Of course there's still the matter of privacy. Impossible to fix that.
What is your source for this
>apps
Gtfo
>>53757730
>Linux apps
>2016
>>53757906
"apps" refers to a container format.
Binaries are just an executable format with machine or object code.
An "app" (as much as I hate the name) is a container that can contain multiple binaries including libraries, configuration files, images, icons, and other resources that the application needs.
>>53757993
>Gtfo
apps
Get your head out of your apps and pay attention to the road!
>>53757865
because of their own apps, not ports with a foreign look and feel
Guys can we call them programs and not apps again?
Everytime you say app, Apple wins.
>>53757865
>Windows became popular because of the apps
It became popular because Microsoft was shoving it down computer manufacturers' throats.
guise i jus progrimmd dis web serch app chek it out google.com
Most Linux software has always been ported to Windows and OS X
>>53757730
OSX? I'll have to say that you are stoopid until you tell me why I am
>>53758246
Apps
>>53757730
>OSX AND LINUX APPS NOW WORK ON WINDOWS 10
I think you meant:
Windows 10 Apps now work on OS X and Linux
Fine. I wouldn't leave OS X for shitty Windows.
I can't think of one app I'd actually need.
I'd actually be missing a lot of apps on Windows.
you can say alot of shit on apple but as far as >apps, i believe they've done it right:
>find all you need in one central place
>install an app with a single click
>apps are fully contained in their own little prison unable to escape
>OS provides safe APIs for the apps to communicate with eachother or with the OS
>this gives the user fine grained control over what apps can do and when
>purchasing stuff is easy, forget about your credit card
>delete the app in a single click
>once the app is deleted everything is gone, no mess left on your device
what more could you need? it's perfect.
>>53759713
also,
>you don't even have to think in terms of "files"
lmao still using files directly in 2016.
>>53759713
Can you think if Windows was this easy? Shit nigga, no more need to worry about some shitty torrent messing up the registry.
>>53759764
i think this is where windows is heading, and linux will follow through reluctantly in about a decade when people realize how ridiculous it is
>>53758118
??++
>>53759803
Can't wait honestly, it's entirely better for security and performance if you give programs their own sandbox to fuck up rather than Windows itself.
>>53757730
>>53759713
Windows 10 is like this
Didn't Windows have a POSIX subsystem ages ago that they abandoned because they thought fuck unix?
>>53760456
[SCREAMS INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY]
>apps
All the newbs screaming >apps have never run Unix. Apps is used in the documentation.
All these le >apps memes
Apps = Applications = Programs
Get with the times cucks
>>53760730
What documentation?
>>53757803
>Linux apps always worked on windows
The fuck...
>>53760456
>>53760456
what is the tl;dr
>>53760744
programs != applications
you stupid fuck
>>53757730
Windows apps run on Linux
>>53760763
You should install Gentoo
>>53760789
By the time you replied, I have read the first part of the image already. Just forget it... gentoo everything yourself.
>>53760745
It was before your time, kid. let me guess your dob is 90 - 94?
>>53760819
Name a doc. I'm pretty sure POSIX isn't littered with the word "apps".
>>53760456
Oh fuck
Maybe I'm blind or nobody bothered to take a better look at OP's shitty image and post better
The image clearly states
>Android Java/C++
>iOS Objective C
Android in this case isn't Linux, it's just running a shitty Android phone emulator. Same goes for iOS and OSX.
Bonus points: Cygwin has been around for ages. You can literally install X11 and a desktop environment like XFCE on Windows and then proceed to rice it to all hell while running a Matrix screen on a Linux terminal. On Windows. Without using virtual machines.
>>53760864
First tell me your Unix history, if it has been only hobbyist OS's like GNU/Linux then you won't have that documentation.
>>53757730
Nobody uses Linux or OSX because of exclusive programs, but because Windows is a mess.
>>53760892
Your bait-fu is shit, work on that.
>>53760892
>I won't tell you because you'll find that I'm full of shit so first give me an excuse to not tell you
:^)
>>53757914
>>53759713
So it's a shitty package manager.
>>53760930
>>53760968
OMG! A Unix workstation is saying the word >aaps!
What is Cygwin since 1995 for $500?
>>53761105
>Cygwin
>OSX apps
Choose one
>>53761087
CDE is not unix
>>53760780
Just wondering, can Wine run Photoshop CC and 3DS MAX at the same performance as Windows does?
>>53757865
> apps
you're doing it again
But still no WP apps
>>53761186
It's a Unix standard. It's part of the OpenGroup standard. It's as much a part of Unix as Unix itself.
>>53761070
congratulations you missed the whole point
>>53761227
Oh and it's also an IEEE standard for Unix Workstations.
>>53761225
WP runs the same app as Windows 10 since their update to UWP
>>53757730
>win32
>>53757730
Remember when Microsoft told us tht WPF apps would be the future?
toppest of lelz
>>53757803
>linux apps always worked
What? Did I just get transported into a new universe?
>>53759713
>once the app is deleted everything is gone, no mess left on your device
This is mostly true on iOS, but not necessarily on OS X
You forgot:
>check user/Library, user/Library/Containers, user/Application Support, /Library, and /Library/Application Support to see if there are any data folders
>>53761227
The opengroup owns the CDE standard, that doesn't make it unix, or even Unix.
>>53759713
>apps are fully contained in their prison, say goodbye to modding
>no guarantee that apps will remain futureproof, a Win32 app built in 1995 can work today.
>spread your ass wide so MSFT can get their 30% cut
>MSFT is the sole gatekeeper, will not allow AO-rated games on their store.
>>53760889
I was wondering the same, maybe the whole thread it's 2-3 shills.
>WPF
>Microsoft Pebble
>Silverlight
>ActiveX
>Millennium Edition
>Internet Explorer
>Clippy
>Windows 10
When will Win32fags learn?
>>53761270
The OpenGroup owns the Unix standard. they all live under the same roof with all the same standards. You might as well say "X11 isn't Unix" Also, you can't say what is or isn't Unix. Only the Opengroup can.
>>53761105
You don't say the amount when you're giving the answer dumbass
You can either say
>What is Cygwin since 1995?
or
>I'll take Cygwin since 1995 for $500
>>53761209
Try it
>>53761336
That would require me to install Linux, which will never ever happen.
>>53761209
No, wine runs like shit; I wish it was better.
>>53761311
The opengroup says UNIX is a Single Unix Specification(POSIX) certified OS. There is fuck all in there about CDE or X.
>>53760746
>>53761266
A lot of opensource applications are crafted with multi-platform APIs so a lot of them has windows and mac versions. I guess that's what he's referring to because AFAIK you cannot just run a program compiled for linux on windows directly most of the time.
>>53757730
>>53757803
>>53757865
>calling programs apps
I'm going to find you and rape you with pic related.
>>53761385
holy fuck are you retarded.
>>53761408
Oh I see. Thanks.
>>53757730
The way you post is a 100% shill
How many rupees do you get for posting like this in the chons?
>>53761209
I don't know about 3DS MAX but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqgugAj69xw
>>53761422
http://www.opengroup.org/subjectareas/platform/unix
>>53761355
Then why do you care?
>>53757865
Popular doesnt mean good anon
>>53761227
>>53761238
>>53761422
You're full of shit and you know it
CDE isn't a standard, it's a fucking DE
>>53761241
Christ this must be horrible for desktop though, and to think they want people to use exclusively their mobile apps on the desktop.
The worst thing about the apps system has to be the ridiculous pricing, a list of free software you see in the /g/ wiki offered for a few bucks each and likely with less quality.
>>53761483
Read my first post.
>>53761481
>>53761511
Linux babies.
Yup, you're completely fucking retarded since you didn't read the website you linked.
The Unix 98 workstation standards
UNIX 98 Workstation As for UNIX 98, plus the requirements of the CDE Product Standards
http://www.opengroup.org/desktop/faq/
>>53761512
It's unstoppable https://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/One-Dev-Minute/Designing-Universal-Windows-Platform-apps
>>53760456
Too bad that thread is archived, I wanted to ask if a pooinloo wrote settings.appx
>>53761289
Ie had a pretty good run, dominating 90% of the market made it pretty successful
>>53757865
I am comment
>>53761543
>unix is a nearly 20 year old workstation standard
Just stop.
>>53761566
We know what happened: Microsoft saw the success of the locked down iOS appstore.
Back then we thought it wouldn't affect us with our more free android systems or desktop but had to know that the resounding success of that shit would spread the infection.
I really don't mind the UWP UI so much but this app store could be disastrous.
>>53761650
Windows store is absolute cancer
>>53761607
>I just got owned; CDE Is a standard owned by Opengroup
>i don't have anything say other than Unix is OLD!
Well no fucking shit. Everyone knows Unix is old as dirt.
>>53761409
You must be 12. I've heard programs referred to as apps since the 80s and I'm sure it was used before I heard it.
Apps was not invented by Steve Jobs in 2003, just shut the fuck up.
>>53761650
The idea by itself is good but the fact that developing using their APIs potentially locks you in the platforms they want and knowing that microsoft is not always a good sport it may not be a good idea to support their initiative.
>>53761688
>CDE is owned by opengroup
No shit.
>Therefore CDE is unix
Just stop.
>>53757972
this
>>53761741
Are you illiterate?
The standard required CDE to be called Unix.
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Even the Opengroup website uses the word "app"
>>53761209
Use a vm with vga pass through
>>53761786
>required CDE to be called Unix
Where?
>Opengroup website uses the word "app"
So what?
Also feel free to bait for more dinos, I forgot I had these.
>>53761806
>asks where when he's already been linked to the SUS standard.
Jesus, /g/ has fallen hard.
>>53757929
What? Since when was Pro Tools exclusive to OSX?
>>53761806
>I fucking love lemons
>>53761834
Show me where in SUS it says CDE is UNIX
>>53757803
>apps
needs more programming
>>53761863
>spoonfeed me.
No. You have a link.
>>53761879
>I don't have a quote
Have a dino
>>53757883
>osx and linux
>having privacy
xD
>>53757922
I learned all my shit on my own an from you guys!
>>53758126
This. It started around the time the "theres an app for that" ad series started rolling and people literally started quoting the commercial. I mean goddamn, have some dignity. I hoped it would blow over but it never did.
I don't even give a shit that the word "program" is less specific. I'll gladly sacrifice that to not sound like I have a corporate hand up my ass. Also no matter what your natural accent is you sound like a starbucks-and-uggs valley girl when you say "app". Stop disgracing yourself.
>>53761543
>>53761688
>>53761786
http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/testing/prodstds.htm
This is where you took your shitty bait. Not all UNIX standards require CDE, only UNIX 98 Workstation. Take a fucking guess when that came out. POSIX came a decade earlier from SUS.
Aka
(you)
>>53761879
are full of shit
>>53761915
Here's to (you) :^)
>>53761948
>take a guess when that came out
The year you were born?
>>53760780
>>53761209
>link gimp isn't all I need
>like I have a Bs in Art
>>53757803
>>53761266
>linux apps
Linux has packs
How to trigger /g/
Show them documentation from a Unix workstation
>apps
>>53759713
>>find all you need in one central place
chocolatey already did this
>>53761879
you butturt mang?
>>53761915
>o-other OSes don't have privacy e-e-either!!!!
>only ubuntu has botnet
>can easily be turned off by switching desktop environments
>ubuntu = linux as a whole
here's your (You)
>>53762032
You're really grasping at straws here, it's the manual for your original desktop environment bait post.
>>53762032
>"unix" standard
>desktop environment
>none of the relevant unix or unix-related systems use this environment
call me back when you stop grasping straws, shill
>>53762091
We've been calling them apps since before you were born, kid.
Now go rice your Arch before mommy calls you up for your favorite dino shaped chicken nuggets.
>>53757730
>still can't delete files that are in use
kek
>>53762115
>We've
You mean solaris office drones?
>dino nuggets
That sounds nice but I'm not the dino poster.
>>53757730
Please Cite your source.
>>53762122
>Too stupid to download Unlocker or any alternative
Lincucks users, everyone
>>53762178
>Needing a third-party application to delete a file
Why?
>>53762136
>he thinks only Solaris ran CDE
CDE was a Unix standard when Unix was relevant. All Unix's used it (AIX, HP-UX, Alpha64..etc) You couldn't be called Unix without it. It was also a IEEE standard which is now defunct with Unix 03 since Apple didn't want to use X or CDE and Sun wanted to use the shitty Java Desktop Environment.
>>53762178
The problem I recently had was that SYSTEM was locking the file. Tried using tools to unlock it, but no dice.
Literally nothing to kill other than to restart the server.
Bit of a pain when I could've just deleted the damn file if I was on Linux.
>>53760873
"programmers" don't know how to program
>>53757730
Not really, it still lacks the customisation and freedom of Linux and the stability and perfect work environment of OSX. Also the whole privacy thing.
Nothing really changed for most people.
>>53761971
>>53762032
>>53762212
>better insult him and pretend I've won
>while shoving him documentation of a current piece of software
POSIX came in '88
CDE came in '93
The implementation that you're running was open sourced in 2006
Now show us where CDE and the website use the word app in a version released before iPhone came out
>>53761835
Maybe he was thinking logic pro?
>>53762366
http://www.opengroup.org/desktop/faq/#RTFToC26
>>53760456
This is actually pretty epic. Read the white section for facepalms. Read the dark section for holy fucking crap this can't be reals.
>>53762563
>epic
>facepalms
>holy fucking crap
>reals
>>>/reddit/
>>53762018
kek
>>53762584
Explain. Does my informal use of language offend you autistic sensibilites? I wasn't aware that /g/ had a grammatical code of etiquette. Oh wait, it doesn't? Then go fuck yourself, faggot.
>>53760456
collapse is imminent
it must be
there will be a vacuum to fill with something better
>>53760508
Think that was legacy from their OS/2 co-development with IBM. Microsoft has lots of odd things in it's history such as Xenix, which at one time was the most popular Unix like OS that wasn't actual Unix.
>>53757865
> you're
> calls others stupid
>>53761087
Same root in that the term in both places started off as a short version of "Application Programs" but much like at&t no longer standing for anything, ios apps are their own thing conceptually rather than just a shortened version of something else.
>>53760456
>>53760456
>microcucks
this fucking guy
>>53760456
I thought this was fake and gay but then
>Actually<[ TEXT RECOGNITION IN PROGRESS / MORE INFO: http://projectnaptha.com/process/ (IDX:i:2-i:3-i:4-i:5-i:6-i:7-j:2-j:3-j:4-j:5-j:6-j:7-j:8&j:3&j:4&44&588:XDI) / ELAPSED 7.69SEC / DATE Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:45:43 GMT / TEXT RECOGNITION IN PROGRESS ]>
>this is why they kept experimenting with putting ads into the start menu
So microsoft wants to go half way the UNIX route?
>>53760456
holy fuck
>>53760456
>metro uses flat design as an excuse to be lazy, because no one at microsoft knows how to design UI
>they gave us powerpoint slides and were like "make this"
>that's why it's flat.
that explains a lot actually
>>53757730
>OSX
[citation needed]
>>53759804
??#
>>53760773
Windows recognizes all executables as Applications, under the Kind sort menu, and has been doing so since W7
>>53761980
Gimp is dogtrash compared to Photoshop and if you disagree you are fucking stupid.
>>53761272
>no guarantee that apps will remain futureproof, a Win32 app built in 1995 can work today.
This is stupid, and you are stupid for suggesting that it is a good idea.
That is part of the reason why Windows is so shit: because it still has to support fucking Windows 3.1 programs because people can't fucking get with the god damn times.
Buy new software, you cheap lazy shit.
>>53757730
>OSX APPS NOW WORK ON WINDOWS 10
If only.
>>53760456
holy fuck , this can't be real
>>53761225
There is no WP anymore, just Windows 10 Phone edition.
>>53757730
Nice, then I don't have to develop for Windows anymore?
Cause that shitty Win8 dev VM will be the first thing to leave my computer as soon as I have the option.
I seriously doubt that it actually works like OP implies, so provide proof or fuck off.
>>53760456
Hey, someone screencapped that! Thanks anon
>>53765009
backwards compatibility is the reason windows is good, and also the reason windows is popular
let linux be the operating system that constantly breaks shit, and leave windows functional
>>53761597
>>53763042
#trolled
>>53761289
Why the hate towards WPF?
>>53760456
holy shit ahahaha
>>53761709
>Apps was not invented by Steve Jobs in 2003
Maybe, but he sure made it sound disgusting.
>>53765249
>I was just pretending to be retarded ecks dee
>>53764576
That was the part where you could notice that all these posts are bullshit.
>using Winblows
>>53757865
windows bcame popular because its bundled by default.
>>53762032
Only retarded underages get triggered at the use of "apps", because they think it comes from the iPhone. It's a much older term.
>>53757730
>malware increased by 2000%
Daily reminder
>>53760780
yeah like shit
>>53757906
Back in the 1990s
>>53757730
>OSX AND LINUX APPS NOW WORK ON WINDOWS 10
Are you gonna give some source or what?
It has been possible to use Objective-C on windows for a while and that doesn't mean OSX stuff will run on windows.
>Windows 10
Into the trash it goes.
>>53764975
>>53762239
kinda true
>>53762239
they know how to program just not how to properly do it
> I can finally run GIMP and Libre Office under Windows
FUCKING FINALLY
I HATE PHOTOSHOP AND MS OFFICE I JUST WISH THE INTERFACE WAS SHITTIER AND SOMETHING STRAIGHT OUT OF 1995
>>53768537
>>53761938
>tfw websites are called "web apps" now
>>53768554
no they're not
Wasn't the way already open for iOS conversion?
HOLY SHIT
MS RENAMED CYGWIN!!!!!!!!1111
>>53768554
>>53768679
A small subset of them are
>>53757730
GUYS!. Whats your 2016 opinion of Windows 10?. Does telemetry fuck with your network performance?, can it be pirated?, is it still buggy?, hows the software compatibility?
>>53768743
yea, the webapps are
i run a couple on my web server, and have no issue calling them so, they act more like applications than web sites
>>53768771
>Does telemetry fuck with your network performance?
yes
>can it be pirated?
yes
>is it still buggy?
yes
>hows the software compatibility?
windows like
>>53761051
>/g/ complains when they have to use multiple standards for hardware
>/g/ complains about a single use word for all programs
Make up your minds faggots.
>>53769482
you can already run bash on windows, and wouldn't they only be able to ship an obsolete gplv2 licenced version anyway?
>GNU/Windows
http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/
>>53764891
.???
>>53771061
>http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-and-canonical-partner-to-bring-ubuntu-to-windows-10/
Are they trying to kill their company? They are going to piss off linux users and make themselves irrelevant to everyone else.
>>53762122
>deleting files that are in use
for what purpose
>>53760456
>there were also rumors of it eventually being completely free
No surprise here, they try really hard to force people to join their botnet service.
>>53760456
someone pls include the part about the undecipherable Windows compiler PERL scripts from early 90s
>>53760456
>metro uses flat design as an excuse to be lazy, because no one at microsoft knows how to design UI
FUCKING THIS. FLATFAGS BTFO.
How the fuck can you like the flat design instead of the superior 'actually made by a professional artist' design
>>53757871
Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers Developers ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE
>>53769262
>/g/ is one person
>>53768429
I was on a very famous tv show
>>53760456
>dumbfucks will fall for this
Yeah, microsoft with billions of money, was just too lazy to design a good UI.
Fucking retards, i hate every single one of you Berniecucks. I hope trump genocides you lot, together with apple's bullshit i phone privacy
>>53757948
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>53762366
>>53762497
Aaaaand completely fucking destroyed.
tip top kek
>>53767722
autism
>>53757803
>apps dont determine whether an os is good or not
Then why are you shitting on Windows Phone while shilling for Lagdroid 24/7? You got some explaining to do senpai :^)
>>53757803
Free software isn't Linux software. Everyone just associates it with Linux because it's the only thing that works on it.
>>53757865
And "your" a fucking illiterate retard.
>>53757730
NICE APRIL FOOLS FAGGOT
