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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --

>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous Thread: >>53715039
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I will open the thread asking something music related.

Where do you people explore and download genres? I want to update my library with some genres with quality, but I don't know any website with lot of songs. I don't know if I explained right to myself. Thanks anons.
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I've just broken my headphone and I only have 65€ (~72$)

> Location
Europe

Any recommendations for a neutral headphone ?
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>>53735104

used mdr 7506
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I'm on the move a lot so I need a portable amp/dac that can still drive big headphones, budget of around $600, what are some good ones?
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>>53735052
>OP changed
what the fug mate
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>>53735318
Chord Mojo [spoiler]:^)[/spoiler]
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>>53735052
Should I buy these for 125€?
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>>53735332
And should be changed even more imo. The Wiki is horrible outside of the resources found in the links.
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>>53735407
do you want a neutral-bright sound?
because even with the small bass bump over the 702 this is still that
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>>53735477
What else is there at around the same price with a little more bass?
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>Budget
Endgame.
>Location
America
>Source
Pc but I need a dac and an amp so please recommend one with the headphones
>Preferred type of headphone
Reccomend both.
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Don't care too much about comfiness but it's always appreciated
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm/bassy
>Preferred music
Mostly just rock and anime/vocaloid stuff
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>>53735490
hi2050
if you don't want treble, 558
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>>53735510
TH-900. As on-ear, dunno. Momentum 2.0 on-ear?
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I love it when consumers say they want more bass. It's like they don't want hi-fi stereo headphones. low-fi haha.

Cheap in-ears have loads of bass if you wanted that.
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>>53735510
x00
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00-purpleheart-headphones

too much for you, msr7 or K553

don't think they need an amp/dac
but
amp: magni 2 / objective 2
dac: modi 2 / odac
amp/dac: e10k
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>>53735535
>hi2050
Any frequency graph?
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>Budget
$80
>Location
Australia
>Source
Mobile
>Preferred type of headphone
In ear
>Comfort level
Maximum

What are some good in ears that are comfortable to wear for long periods of time (e.g. sleeping, on plane etc)?
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>>53735535
HI2050 is less flat and has less treble and more midbass compared to the HD 558.
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>>53735407
No
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>Budget

$350
.
>Location

USA

>Source

Pc and laptop

>Preferred type of headphone

Full sized.

>Open or closed

Open

>Comfort level

Confy but i preffer sound

>Preferred tonal balance

Neutral, Flat and natural

>Preferred music

Classical, Jazz, Old Rock, Swing, some Ost
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>>53735613
>on place
MK5. Best sounding earphone and it's analytical like a HD800.
>sleeping
Not MK5. You'll break your eardrums hymen.
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>>53735651
>place
plane

Noise isolation is better than Bose QC headphones.
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>>53735099
>I want to update my library with some genres with quality, but I don't know any website with lot of songs

Try soundcloud or bandcamp
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>>53735510
Fidelio X2, no amp required.
If you want one anyway: Schitt Magni and Modi
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How do I clean my damn headphones of dust
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>>53735603
check takstar pro 80, should be similar as they're the same but open (2050) /closed (80)
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>>53735394
Well meme'd. Now how about something that isn't Chord. The mojo doesn't even have a 1/4" jack.
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>>53735685
I tried, but is not easy to search for genre and then downloading it. If I get a better setup than I have, I think I would like to listen to something more than YouTube or it will be a waste.
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>>53735712
Looks meh
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>>53735646
AKG K702
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>>53735536
>red
>>53735579
>https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00-purpleheart-headphones
>orange
>msr7
Considering this. How are they better from the ATH-M70x for me?
>K553
Considering this too but they look ugly
>>53735693
Phillips headphones?
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>>53735928
>Phillips headphones?
Yes
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>>53735693
>CLOSED
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>>53735784

is there a difference between the k702, k701 and k7xx?
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>>53735706
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>>53735987
>is there a difference between the k702, k701 and k7xx?
Yes, K7xx has more bass and the K701 has less bass
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>Budget
$100 max, preferably under like $60
>Location
AMERICA
>Source
Phone, Moto X Pure
>Preferred type of headphone
I'm leaning towards on ear because in ear buds always fall out my ear.
>Open or closed
Closed if on ear
>Comfort level
Well I'd like it to be reasonable comfortable
>Preferred music
Don't really have any, I listen to pretty much everything. Alternative, hip-hop, rap, ambient etc..
>Past headphones
Beyerdynamic DT 770, grado SR80, MEE audio Sport-Fi M6 Noise Isolating In-Ear Headphones.
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>>53735510
>warm/bassy
Aww, come to the neutral side!
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>>53735999
Calm you buns

What do you want to clean in them anyway? The pads? Do they come off? Can't you just pick the dust off with your fingers of a piece of cloth? If not the pads, just wipe them clean. It's not like they need some special treatment. Just don't touch the driver inside.
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I can't remember what it was but I remember this cheap as fuck and ugly as fuck white and red chinese headphones that were really good. Anyone know?
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>>53736495
tascam th-02 in white?
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>>53736513
THANK YOU
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if i cant hear above 16khz what the point in getting headphones with accurate response range?
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Just ordered an AD900x new for $150 but can still cancel. Did I fuck up? My only other phones are cheap $5 iems
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Budget: $150ish.

Location: New York area

Source: PC, smartphones, 3DS/Vita

Preferred type of headphone: Cheap and good IEM and/or Good headphone

Comfort level: Anything that doesn't smash the ears + doesn't soak up sweat

Preferred balance: Neutral

Preferred music: Rock, Metal, Videogames
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>>53736693
I was going to tell you to try out B&H or AC gears for demo units.
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>>53736557
Some food of thought

Extension beyond 16 kHz is mostly irrelevant during music listening. Assuming there is any content beyond that frequency, anything above it gets effectively masked away by the rest of the response because our ears' sensitivity drops rapidly past that point and how sensitive our ears are to some frequencies below that. Even if you can hear sine tones in a hearing test beyond 16 kHz, it really doesn't make a difference in actual listening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auditory_masking
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour
http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm

No headphone is accurate to 16 kHz. Not all headphones have response which even extends to 16 kHz. Measurement couplers can't reliably measure response beyond 6 kHz and above 10 kHz is a complete no-guarantee zone. Be happy if you have usable bandwidth up there.

The band above 16 kHz is only a tiny part of the frequency spectrum we hear(or don't hear when we age) and the remaining band isn't really even used in music. Harmonics of instruments don't really go up there, only synthetic sounds in electronic music could properly have extension extending above 16 kHz.

So for your question, accuracy mattes in the area which we hear well and where most sounds are. Above 16 kHz is not part of that.

>>53736564
They are fine. Comfortable for most people, lightweight and don't need an amplifier. High frequencies are peaky so you might want to try an equalizer.
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>>53736811
Great explanation. the range of frequencies you can hear is by far not the primary measure of hearing quality, and hearing tests don't bother with frequencies above 8k, since other factors are more important.
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>>53735052
would sony H.ear on wireless NC be a good buy? or would the wired version be a better option.
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>>53736801
Are those good brands?

Also, are IEMs good even if you don't get custom ones fit to your ear? I heard you need an audiologist to make a mold?
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>>53736953
are u gay?
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>>53736972
kek who isn't?
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>>53736996
Your wife's son
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>>53736996
Your wife's boyfriend.
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>>53737003
What's the problem in marrying someone that already has a child?
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>>53737028
She's a whore m8
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>>53737003
well i'd have to be married for that to be true.
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yeah but no
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>>53736953
MSR7 is better. That Sony headphone or the one I tried was too bassy.
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>>53737047
I don't see a problem here
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>>53737076
audio technica
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>>53737076
would have prefered a bluetooth headphone, just to save on having to mod them to have bluetooth.
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Which stores are good to try headphones at? BestBuy?
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>>53735191
I agree
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>>53735052
can anyone help me with my problem >53736254 , please ?
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>>53737366
i mean this >>53736254
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>>53735104
shure SRH-440.
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>>53735510
X00 and Schiit Stack
SE535 and HA-2
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>>53736693
hyperx cloud 1 & e10 soundmagic
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Thinking of selling my O2 because suddenly I'm poor now but not "on the streets" poor. If I sell it, will I really face a problem with output impedance not following the 1/8th rule and not having enough volume? I have a Xonar DX I can plug in, but I hear the output impedance is terrible
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>>53737639
good job saying what headphones you have you retarded hobo
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>>53737639
>keeping your "gamer" colored sounding echoey sound card
low-fi hobo
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>>53737364
VITA BONER
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>>53737697
I had to sell my good m50x with custom pads, now i only have really cheap earbuds and uncomfortable porta pros, feels bad man

>>53737725
It has no resale value unlike the O2
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I have fucked up and broken my headphones, hence here i come.
>~50$
>Russia
>Iphone
>Pref full-sized
>Closed
>Im fine with anything as long as it doesnt pull air like PortaPro do.
>I listen to pretty much everything short of rap.
>Parrot zik. Loved them for all they are.
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>>53737549
>SE535
Why not the SE846?
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>>53737764
then what the fuck did you have the o2 for in the first place
should be easy to sell for 100-150$
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>>53737792
>then what the fuck did you have the o2 for in the first place
i had it so i could stay within the 1/8th rule mate
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>>53737769
>pull hair*
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>>53737812
It's misunderstood, partly because of the NwAvGuy's own explanation of it.
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>>53737851
are you implying output impedance is meangingless?
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>>53737874
I'm fairly sure you got memed yeah
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>>53737907
I doubt so
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>>53737874
It's not but it has no effect on all headphones and the effect is predictable deviation in the frequency response which can be corrected with an equalizer. M50X has a very flat impedance curve. Driving it from 300 Ohm output impedance headphone jack won't do anything to the response compared to a near 0 Ohm Zout one.
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>>53737920
dude, this is the audiophile market we're tarking
aint no other fucking hobby with more memes than the fucking audiophile shit

you seen these 15000$ power cables?
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>>53737926
>>53737966
sounds like you faggots are adovcating buying a $65 xonar dx over any headphone amp. I can get behind that.
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>>53738007
No. I'm not advocating anyone to buy anything. I'm mostly trying to get people understand what matters and why.

O2 is an extremely good headphone amplifier and definitely better than Xonar DG. An audible difference in practice is another matter and mostly depends on what headphones are plugged in. Xonar DG is also more than a headphone amplifier. It's a DAC and without looking at the specs I'm fairly sure it also works as an ADC and has some DSP built in.
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>>53738007
no you fuckboy, but you don't need a 200$ amp for a fucking m50x, you don't need shit, onboard is good enough for that

you only need a 200$ amp for shit like dt880 600 ohms

e10k can drive pretty much any fucking headphone out there
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>>53738099
my $20 fiio E6, is more than enough to drive most headphones under 300ohm, and even onboard audio these days can drive more headphones.
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>>53738082
>No. I'm not advocating anyone to buy anything.
you just did ;)

>O2 is an extremely good headphone amplifier and definitely better than Xonar DG.
We've been talking about the DX the whole time, check em ;)
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>>53738168
but it doesnt follow the supposed 1/8th rule so your overall SQ is theoretically much worse
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>>53738205
Fairly sure O2 was the start of this discussion and the reason why I replied to the question about output impedance.

Gettem, jabroni.
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>>53737789
Because 535 is objectively better.
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>Budget
$150
>Location
USA
>Source
PC, Mobile
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Nothing specific, just enough for long study sessions.
>Preferred music
Classical, rock, jazz
>Past headphones
MDR 7506
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Hello /g/

What are good aliexpress inears
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>>53735052
is soundmagic a good brand?
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>>53738530
Brand doesn't matter; the product does. Well established companies drop the ball sometimes and shit companies sometimes make a really good product.
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>>53738243
oy vey don't forget to buy a good cable goyim
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>>53735099
>>53735747
A little bump
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Ausfag deal alert: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/240393
Sennheiser HD439 for $54 @ Harvey Norman.
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I've bought the HD 600s, and I'll receive them tomorrow. I'll feel myself the 'meme' of veil and lack of sub-bass. Can't wait for it.
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>>53739095
good choice, anon
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>>53739095
Not a bad choice imho, it's a very good all arounder.
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>>53736968
Those are stores with demo units in Manhattan.
>custom
Custom is for fit, not sound. Sound quality can be all over the place with custom tips and shells.
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is natural = flat?

or it has more to do with soundstage?
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Post again for more opinions
>Budget
Around $200-300AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
PC was going to buy one of these to accompany them https://www.jdslabs.com/products/35/objective2-headphone-amplifier/
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
Have no real prefrence
>Comfort level
The comfier the better
>Preferred music
I like mainly house and eletrico but also like older 50/60/70's music to
>Past headphones
Sennheisers 518 i disliked the lack of bass and shitty headset I got as a gift (corsair vengeance 2100 ) I use pistons for everyday use with my phone though
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Are there any closed headphones that are as comfortable as the HD 598s for around the same price?
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>>53739307
just look up charts of headphones considered neutral
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>>53739353
Bullshit the LCD-3 is flat and neutral. The LCD-X is the flattest Audeze and it's still relatively dark compared to something like Ether.
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Say I got a HA-2 for my DAP - will it be able to use its DAC if I connect it only from line out or do I absolutely have to connect it using USB to use the DAC?
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>>53739443
LCD3 isn't flat on any target as quite clearly seen in that graph too which is DF equalized.
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>>53739353

but is there a difference between neutral and natural? for me neutral is even in the FR but that doesnt make the sound natural or does it?
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>>53735747
Soundloader.
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>>53739823
to elaborate - It's a tool for soundcloud. The song you are listening can be downloaded by sharing it into soundlouder which downloads it.
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>>53739823
I don't use Android as my PMP. But sounds interesting.

>>53739888
That's great, I saw it a little. Hows the quality when downloaded?
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I want to use that cheap Behringer MX400 mixer, but I see it includes amps. Should I chain my headphone am after it and set the integrated amps on low? I don't want to degrade my sound in any way.
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>>53737725
>"gamer" colored sounding echoey sound card
What? Xonar dx is one of the most based sound cards around, especially considering how cheap it is. You can grab used for peanuts. You don't actually need to use dolby too, in fact you are fucking retarded if you don't keep this shit disabled.
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just got pic related

what to listen too?
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>>53740351
Return them and get better ones.
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>>53740371
Not him but why?
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>>53740351
>>53740405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJv0qnWhIYo

Let the TS TS TS TS TS deep in your head, embrace the sibilance. If you can't I envy you.
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>>53739902
I use my phone for 'soundcloud sessions' and load the folder on my pmp. Can't say much about the quali. But I believe it takes the streams directly..
>>53740351
There are about 5 different versions of them.. I like this to test new headphones https://www.mixcloud.com/radiojuicy/radio-juicy-vol-153-monnema-dreck-by-funkypus/
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>>53740424
my bad, I got the 80 ohm
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I have a pair of MDR-V6 currently.

They're nice, but I was wondering if there is anything "better", and I'm sure there is - I just don't know what.

Are open headphones so much better than closed? I'm curious to know.

>Budget
Less than $450, but I'm going to be saving up, so the price doesn't matter so much, so long as the product isn't likely to go out of stock within the next year or so.

>Location
England

>Source
Computer, but I'm willing to buy a DAC/pre-amp, though I don't know what.

>Type
Not IEM.

>Open or closed
I'm open to either; I'm not really in a situation where it matters, and I'm staying at home.

>Comfort
I wear them for hours at a time, so I suppose comfort. I'm willing to make a small sacrifice but I think I have pretty sensitive ears.

>Balance
Neutral, but a slight bit of bass would be nice. I heard that the MDR-V6 is a bit too light on bass, so take from that what you will. That's my reference point.

>Music
Free improvisation, IEM, electro-acoustic, classical, but really anything. Attached is a chart from a couple months ago. I listen to more of the stuff I just listed now.

>Past
Only MDR-V6. I like the comfort and the fact that I can hear little things, which is good if you listen to improvisation, musique concrete etc.
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>>53740564
400i
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>>53740433
You should eq the highs lower if you experience the already mentioned sibilance. I never experienced it. Currently on phone and can't test the video.
They are v shaped with prominent bass, beats and hip hop lovers are adressed. You can get decent jazz sound with an eq.
I tried some other headphones at the 100€ price range and they are still my favourite got the 250 ohm version. Maybe this saved me from the sibilance I dunno.
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Anyone have the TH-X00?

How is it?
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>>53740593
These are too expensive for me at the moment, but thanks though.

What would your second rec be, or are these really worth saving for?
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>>53740722
get hd600
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>>53740722
I factored in the fact that you said you will be saving and yes, they are worth.
I would recommend HD600 but if you think the Sony is light on bass then you _may_ think the same.

As for amp and DAC: Fiio E10k, O2+ODAC or Schiit stack.
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>>53740424
>I like this to test new headphones https://www.mixcloud.com/radiojuicy/radio-juicy-vol-153-monnema-dreck-by-funkypus/

Interesting set of musics, thanks.
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>>53740424
>128kb
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>>53740416
I have not at the moment, but I play to get one of them. I wanted something like 990 quality but closed, I though I choose right.
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Hey friends. Collegepoor poster from a couple threads back. I went to the casino today and won a sizable chunk of money, so half of it is going into savings and half to actual headphones.

>Budget
150 USD
>Location
Boston, MA / Cape Cod
>Source
Laptop (will be moving to desktop when I graduate), occasionally my phone (Samsung Galaxy S5)
>Preferred type of headphone
Doesn't really matter. As long as they are comfy.
>Open or closed
Closed, please.
>Comfort level
As comfy as can reasonably be had with my meager budget.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral. Although, to be honest, I probably know jack shit about this.
>Preferred music
I listen to a ton of stuff, to be honest. Sometimes I'll listen to old vidya OSTs I enjoyed in my childhood. Sometimes I'll listen to prog metal. Sometimes I'll listen to classical music.
>Past headphones
Random fucking 20-dollar Sony headphones and a pair of Beats headphones that a rich neighbor decided to give me as a Christmas present (apparently she bought a ton in bulk at a good price and just gave them all out as Christmas presents to everyone). They're fucking horrible and they're falling apart but they were better than nothing.

Side note: anyone know any places in the Boston area or Cape Cod area to test drive decent headphones before I buy? Or should I just order from Amazon and return if they're shitty?
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>>53739822
Let's reflect a bit upon this topic, shall we? Feel free to disagree at any point:
Imho "natural" is loose term when it comes to headphones, the reason i say this is because, well, none of what is happening when you are playing music from your computer is even remotelly natural, the very concept of speakers in general is pure schizophony, music is usually recorded in studios with acoustics that are not common to most ordinary environments and later most of what is recorded (or all of it depending on the genre) is treated to sound exactly like the engineer wants.
Now, i know that by "natural" you probably mean "closer to what would sound real/irl", but the problem here is that there's no way of saying if, say, a bass light headphone sounds more "natural" when listening to a particular band, because the bass wouldn't sound like that in a live show anyway and even if it did, there might be lots of tinny or even bigger, more noticeable variations from show to show, some bands are actually famous for sounding like they sound only in studio and sounding like a different band alltogether live (see Nirvana for example).
Now let's think about this from a different angle, let's say you think of "natural" as meaning "it sounds closer to what i hear from an acoustic instrument in a particular environment", that's much more specific and could be easier to find in a headphone, for example, if you know what good, untreated acoustic guitars should sound like in amphitheater and want a headphone for acoustic guitar quartets there's a chance you can find a good option by ear, but it would be entirely subjective, so if someone with more/less experience or even just a different perception of acoustic guitar sounds decides your headphone is not the best for it, he wouldn't be wrong either.
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Someone post the HD600 NATURAL SOUND image.
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torn between the HD600 and the AKG K702
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>>53740416
what is sibilance
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>>53740978

thanks i havent considered your first point but i agree with you, i was thinking in the second, i guess i have to keep using the more neutral/flat HP to at least hear something close to what the producer had intended
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>>53741110

>TS TS TS TS TS
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>>53741082
get shp9500 instead
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>>53741185
shrill nobass trash
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>>53741200
>cant into bass boost
You will need bass boost for hd600, too
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Any suggestion for replacement pads for MSR7? They're a little small and get uncomfortable after about an hour.
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>>53741145
No problem Anon, i din't included stage in the conversation, even though i feel it's relevant to the topic, because to be honest i still have to many unanswered questions about it when it comes to headphones.
But yeah, in general going closer to neutral is your best bet.
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>Budget
~$150 USD
>Location
US
>Source
iPhone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
High?
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Preferred music
rap/hip hop, trap, 90s alternative, r&b, dad rock
>Past headphones
nothing worth mentioning
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How do I test my new headphones? The sound is too different from my previous cans, so I can't tell if there's something wrong with it
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>>53741376

on the topic, i was betting on the orchestral music and the arranged ost where about the same like the first half of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ595N9NZVg

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J46RY4PU8a8

the second is arranged by the composser i believe. The fisrt one almost makes me cry everytime btw
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>>53741606
sine sweep from 20k to 0hz
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>>53741606

you need to use them for a good time before you get used to them, you can EQ to match your previews ones
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>>53741616
hmm, okay, but what should I be looking for?

I guess there are going to be bumps in the volume since these are not very neutral cans
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>>53741615
Very nice, love how that sounds!
Funny that you would post Chrono Cross music, i'm currently doing a research precisely about vidya audio and was looking for a few game ost to listen in the mean time lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqSJ0n2xD30

But you are not wrong for going with acoustic and orchestral music when thinking of natural sounding music, from my experience classical music is one of the least treated in studio after recording, a lot less compression than you would expect of pop music since it depends so heavily on dynamic and the pans are usually made so that the instruments are positioned in a similar place as they would on the stage.
If anything what usually counts the most in this case is the choice of micking technics.
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>>53741639
but how do i know they sound how they're meant to sound, how do I know they're not defective
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I have choice between these 3:

sandisk-sansa-clip-sport-4gb-mp3-player-with-lcd-screen-andmicrosdhc-card

sandisk-sansa-8gb-clip-jam-mp3-player-black

sandisk-sansa-clip2-gb-mp3-player-black

Which one should I get?
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>>53735052
>clockup flowers
Pretty good, but ・-・・ --- ・・・- ・ is superior.
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>>53741968

>defective

do they distord the sound? do they make noise when there should be none
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>>53740095
>fucking retarded
Well, If you wanna add another fucking device to your audio chain. Be my guest.
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>>53742464
>do they distord the sound?
hmm, I don't know. I listen mostly to lofi music, so I can't tell.

>>53742464
>do they make noise when there should be none
No
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>>53740095
>>53742535
Don't forget to disable all enhancements too. Making it a moot point having it in the first place.
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>>53742685
you get a better DAC and asio 2.0 drivers for production
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>>53742848
But what if I had a ODAC or a external DAC? You can't even connect it to the sound card.
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>>53742681

>No

well then they are not defective, which are your headphones?
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>>53743068
sennheiser hd280
isn't there any clean, 100% free of distortion track I could play to further check it?
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>>53743146

this is how your HP should respond to frequencies, what are you old headphones?
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>>53743316
some $5 chinese headphones
I think the problem is that I'm hearing stuff that I wasn't with my crappy headphones
for example, at 2:25 in this song I can hear some fuzz on the left side drums that I couldn't hear before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzhItRs76J0
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>>53743445

>some $5 chinese headphones

lol

>I think the problem is that I'm hearing stuff that I wasn't with my crappy headphones

yeah thats it, look for some flacs
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Hello, I have a pair of KZ ATE memephones and I'm wondering if they're just overhyped by head-fi? Are they the best IEMs at $8? If you had no idea how much it cost and listened to it for the first time, what price would you guess it to be worth?
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I want to upgrade from my M50's.

>Budget
250 - 300 USD

>Location
NC, USA

>Source
Home desktop listening. Have a Fiio E10 DAC

>Preferred type of headphone
No preference. Comfortable above all

>Open or closed
n/a

>Comfort level
^

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, leavning towards warmer.

>Preferred music
Wide variety. A lot of electronic and dubby. CC, Burial, beats, etc. I like experimental rock/post rock like Have a Nice Life, Planning for Burial, etc. Shoegaze stuff like MBV and Whirr. 90s hip hop. Classical sometimes, etc.

>Past headphones
AD 900
M50

I was lookinng at DT-770s and Fidelio X2s. Maybe get DT-770 with an amp? I read X2's don't need to be driven.
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>>53743990
HP50 or X2.

>DT700
>Neutral, leavning towards warmer.
Kek

The X2 isn't exactly neutral either so it seems you don't really want neutral.
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>>53743455

how good is the bass on the akg k702
>>
mp3 player rec?

broke a Creative Zen Stone Plus long ago
broke a Sansa Clip+ not so long ago
lost a Fiio X1 very recently.

what mp3 player should I get
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>>53744464
Another X1
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what portable dac and amp does /hpg/ recommend? the least worst one?
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>>53744515

e10k is the cheaper
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>>53744493
okay thanks
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>>53744515
What are you driving? 8/10 times you won't need one - especially with IEMs, which is what you should be using out in public.
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>>53744551
why wouldn't i need one 8/10 times? aren't the soundcards built in smartphones and laptops shit 8/10 times?
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>>53744651
They are good enough to not have any problems with most IEMs. The only time you will run into a problem is if you're using something like SE535 where it will hiss like crazy or driving inefficient headphones off your phone.
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>>53744814
what would you recommend for the se535
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>>53738290
Do you not like your 7506s?
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>>53744853
Something like E11k or Q1. I personally use E12.
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Using these bad boys here, best bang for your buck in my opinion.
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>>53744944
>earbuds
>Noise Isolating

WEW
>>
>Budget
$300 USD (flexible)
>Use
listening to music: black metal, psychedelic rock, jazz, blues, dream pop.
>Past Headphone
Sennheiser HD558, ATX70 IEM (IIRC), Crossfade LP2
>Preferred tonal balance
I like the warmth and soundstage of the 558, though I listen to music that goes higher than 200 BPM, so maybe the bass is too 'slow' (whatever the fuck that means). I just want good headphones to use on my PC for music listening, my 558s are a little quiet when listening to incredibly layered and fast music, even with the volume cranked.

Also need producer headphones for creating ,mixing, and mastering multiple instruments (digital and recorded), can go up to $500 for these.

SAMPLES
https://youtu.be/FaFIDnsWCQQ
https://youtu.be/0OSF-RZdL2s
https://youtu.be/0OSF-RZdL2s
https://youtu.be/H9jvzVuYRyY
https://youtu.be/jFQdvaU-JlY
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>>53744963
They actually sound better than the price suggests honestly. While you won't mistake them for any high quality headphones in the $60+ range, it's still safe to say they kick the shit out of everything in the earbuds department. In particular, they demolish anything that Yuin has to offer.
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>>53744978
>guess i suck at copy paste
https://youtu.be/KoPyLJTN7ss
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Hey /g/,
I have a pair of mdr v6 and today, for some reason, the sound is coming from one side only.

How do i fix this?
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>>53744906
e12 is an amp what about the dac
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>>53744065
Its ok
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>>53745135
Q1 and E18 are DAC amp combos.
If you want to spend even more money for absolutely no reason, then HA-2 is another combo.
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>>53742928
>But what if I had a ODAC or a external DAC
Even bigger snakeoil than soundcards
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>>53745298
how is a dac waste of money? what do you think of sha900
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>>53745353
>how is a dac waste of money?
There's a point where DACs simply cannot be any better audibly. Say you spend $5000 for your amp, DAC and all the other crazy shit before your headphones - it won't be much better, if any better, than something like a Schiit stack or O2+ODAC. It's all in your head placebo because more expensive = better.

The bottleneck in the system isn't the equipment, but our human ears.

>what do you think of sha900
Overkill. Only time you need it is if you buy the electrostat IEM made for it. Probably sounds pretty good but most definitely not worth the some 10x price of SE535.

If burning money is your thing, cool. KSE1500 system and SR009 with HeadAmp Blue Hawaii and you have the """""best""""" setup before hitting speakers.
>>
>Budget
$120 max, preferably under $100
>Location
California (USA)
>Source
PC, LG Pulse (Android), Sansa Clip+
>Preferred type of headphone
On-ear, but IEM works fine
>Open or closed
Closed (for privacy, don't want sound leakage)
>Comfort level
Very comfortable, enough to listen for extended periods of time per day
>Preferred music
I want something for any type of music (and I mean ANY)
>Past headphones
http://amzn.com/B00BBDL55Y
I currently use Beats Powerbeats 2 (got em for free) but I don't like them.
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>>53745492
thanks. do you prefer the stack or o2/odac
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>>53745549
RHA MA750
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>>53745549
>>53745549
RE400
IM70

I would recommend an Etymotic but
>Very comfortable, enough to listen for extended periods of time per day

>>53745578
They are both good. I have Schiit stack because I had RCA cables lying around and put them to good use. I think it looks nicer too.
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>>53745589
what about portable dac/amp for over ear headphones
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>>53739337
Anyone?
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>>53745661
Once again, depends on what you're driving. Most headphones made to be portable can be run straight off your phone.

E18 or HA-2 is the highest I would go.

>>53745685
Got a good sale here. Much better than the HD5xx series.
http://www.addictedtoaudio.com.au/product/sennheiser-hd600-audiophile-reference-hifi-stereo-headphones
Try getting E10k instead of O2 and hitting the bass boost.
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>>53745685
>>53745725
Alternatively, DT770 as a closed, extremely v-shaped alternative.
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>>53735052
this isn't /mu/, please fuck off
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>>53745751
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>>53745791
I don't give a shit how popular this topic is on /g/, it's clearly best suited for /mu/. You're all nice guys but please fuck off to /mu/. Trying to be polite here.
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>>53735104

Where in Europe?
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>>53735407

I don't like them, but if u like to neutral bright sound then buy them, and the bass on them is so awful that u can't hear it. One of the most overpriced hp imo
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>>53745725
>straight off your phone
i want to use it with my laptop too. is a dac/amp combination like the e18 better than just an amp like the e12? why do you use the e12
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>>53745803
Do you think /mkg/ needs to go to, say, /diy/?
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>>53735646

Dt880 and hd600, original typical headphones that will work perfect for you
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>>53745803
wow... This is more tech related that music related wanted you it or not... Tech is used to transfer, amplifie & playback sound.

Get your shit together you small minded asshole.
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>>53745847
>is a dac/amp combination like the e18 better than just an amp like the e12
It's much more convenient if you're not autistic like me and have a DAP. See below.
>why do you use the e12
Because my X3 2nd gen already has a good DAC and I can stack the two together.
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>>53735693
>>53735984

Just buy the X2, what u want with a pair of closed headphones? DT770? No, buy X2 or kys
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>>53745853
no because keyboards are specific to computers, whereas audio-quality is very much a /mu/ subject. I think a /mkg/ should exist here, and I think it would also make sense over at /diy/.


>>53745878
>shut up ideot, my ipod is tech related therefore it belongs on the technology board

no
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>>53745897
>I think a /mkg/ should exist here, and I think it would also make sense over at /diy/.
How come this doesn't apply to headphones, amps, DACs which is, oh right, technology.
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>>53736002

Yeah, they all suck except k7xx

>>53736162

>neutral side
Boring side

>>53736564

Wtf no? Great headphones, the air series is my favorite ones.
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>>53737076

My friend bought the MSR7 last month and I was really hyped to test them out. And they were pure shit to my ears, it can be me but them highs where just down in my ass.
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>>53737609

Are you gay? Hyper x / kek
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>>53745582
>>53745589
What do you think of ATH M40X compared to the ones you suggested?
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>>53745923
can I make a thread about Xbox vs. PS4 because they're both 'technology'? Stop being a fucking retard lad. This clearly belongs on /mu/, just as the example laid out belongs on /v/.
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>>53744978
Anybody?
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>>53737823

#relatable
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>>53738099

My E10k can drive my DT770 250 to..
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>>53745964
Thought you wanted on ears/IEMs?

>>53745972
What's the problem with a thread/topic being applicable to multiple boards?

The example would (mostly) not be about the actual consoles but about muh games. These threads aren't discussing music.
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>>53745725
Is there something similar to e10k that will support my speakers aswell? Or am.i better off just keeping them plugged straight into the mobo?
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>>53745549
>>53746024
Oh shit, I meant "Over-ear, but IEMs will work fine"
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>>53745110
Is the adapter well screwed? maybe it's just bad contact.
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>>53746051
Depending on your tolerance the clamp can be a little strong. They have a decent balanced signature and, generally, between the "best" of over ears and IEMs at the same price point, over ears win every time.
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>>53746097
Yeah, i tried it on both my phone and pc
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>>53746135
darn, I got a big head and big ears
>>
To keep this discussion inside topic here is my gear, tell me what you thing about it:

Headphones: Beyerdynamic dt770 250ohm, pro version.

DAC/AMP: Fiio E09K & Fiio E17. USB connection.

Home entertainment:
- Onkyo tx-nr545. PC - optical, Vinyl - RCA, Bluray- HDMI.
- Aurelia Ambera high-end towers.
- Some low end speakers/sub for 5.1 system

Travel:
- Fiio E17 (usb)
- Yuin PK2
- Sunnrise SW Dragon II, 120 Ohm.


>>53745972
Threads like this fit in to multible boards. In this case /g/ is actually closest board to this topic as it discusses hardware, aka technology used to playback music, not music itself.

/mu/ as a board is mainly for discussion about, music itself, not tech used to play it.
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>>53746189
When I tried the M50x in store, I found the clamp to not be that bad. This is a sign that it will lighten up over time but it really does depend on how big your head is.
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>>53746223
Will add that the earpads were fine. Ears touched the inside a little but was not a problem.
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>>53735052
so whats the new clip?
i thought it was going to be the fiio m3 but i hear that its locked down and shit
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>>53746205
>- Yuin PK2
>- Sunnrise SW Dragon II, 120 Ohm.
Why earbuds? Why $100 earbuds?
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>>53746234
That's the old clip.
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>>53746306
i know thats the clip
i meant whats going to be the new low priced reliable mp3 player /g/ shills?
i gave my old clip away and the zip is shit
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>>53746034
If you're powering speakers then go for Modi 2 and Magni 2 Uber. The Magni 2U can act as a preamp.
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>>53746296
In-ear plug type buds start hurting in my ears no matter what size of fittings i use.

I got SW Dragons II's as a replacement for my Charm 3's which started giving electric shocks trough them.
I don't really thing that these are worth 100$, but they sound amazing with decent amp.
Negativities are that they require amp or high end music player to produce best possible sound.
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>>53746364
>In-ear plug type buds start hurting in my ears no matter what size of fittings i use.
Not even shallow inserts like E10? Everyone's different I suppose.
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>>53746223
>>53746231
I'll have to look into the M50x's then. Are there other over-ears that might be as good or better at that price?
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>>53745751
This thread fits the best here. It's about audio technology, not music and the arts. Aside from giving purchase advice, we discuss audio products, signal processing, acoustics and psychoacoustics and the sciences related to these.

>>53745972
A thread about the technology behind video game consoles could very well belong here. A vs thread of which console is subjectively better is not such a thread and will mostly cause shitposting.
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>>53746411
No no, M40x are better and much flatter. I was just saying from my personal experience auditioning them and Audio Technica don't exactly differentiate much between their series builds. I mean, just look at their AD series, the build is almost identical between all of them.
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>>53746411
>>53746433
>>53746444
>>
>Budget

$220(USD), $291.95(AUD)

>Location

Australia

>Source

PC,Mobile.

>Preferred type of headphone

Full Sized

>Open Or Closed

Closed
>Comfort level

If it isn't painful to wear, it will do fine.

>Preferred Music

EDM, Electronic, Dubstep, Videogames
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>>53746485
http://www.minidisc.com.au/headphones-earphones/closed-headphones/audiotechnica-athmsr7-hires-headphones-p-1100696.html
Headband comfort can be fixed by bending it in a little. It won't snap.
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>>53746392
I haven't had any luck with anything that is required to be inserted to ear canal.

These buds are actually surprisingly good when it comes to isolation & bass considering that they are still traditional ear buds. Ofc they can't compare to in-ears, but i don't really care about bass dominant music, so it's not something i give too much value.
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>>53745897
>audio-quality is very much a /mu/ subject
Yeah, quantization, huffman coding and similar signal processing topics about audio quality and compression definitely belong on /mu/.
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>>53746879
Yeah remember the whole one time those were discussed in /hpg/?
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>>53746918
Yes, now fuck off, headphones are technology.
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>>53746976
I'm not who you originally replied to, autist.
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>>53746983
This is an anonymous board you fucking mongoloid and you never stated that you weren't.
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>>53747025
I don't have to, stop sperging out or at the very least stop being new and learn to identify different posters.
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>>53746433
>we discuss audio products, signal processing, acoustics and psychoacoustics and the sciences related to these
More like we shitpost and do brand wars, memes, say things like it's snake oil and post graphs.
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>>53747123
I'd rather trust a graph then a head-fier's opinion, though.
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