Why aren't you using the best GNU/Linux distribution?
>>53732958
you mean LFS, right?
>systemd
>linux distro
choose one
>>53732958
But I do.
>>53732981
>Using a bloated laggy pile of shit
>>53732971
hurr durr systemd is not what unix should be
fuck you sheep.
For an OS you plan to use for 5+ years you can't go wrong with Debian Stable.
>>53732996
>"I can't handle opinions so I have to publicly call someone's opinion shit because I can no longer handle opinions"
not even him but k
But I am, accepting only FSF-approved licenses.
>>53733006
If you want packages from the dark ages, sure. Maybe on an old pc that would be fine, but with a new one you really need the updated drivers.
>>53733037
It's true that GPL is the best. Using MIT or BSD license is asking for apple to steal your work and make it proprietary. In fact, their kernel is literally the BSD kernel modified and made closed source. BSD users usually use BSD on their servers and a macbook for desktop use. It's literally doing apple's work for them.
>>53732993
>What is a minimal install
>>53733018
kek
>>53733083
FSF-APPROVED permits BSD and MIT licenses you dolt.
>>53732958
I am.
>>53732958
why is best?
>>53733182
>KDE
Ayy.
5.6 is out though dude.
>>53733226
pacman is the best package manager and arch works well on all desktop environments/Window managers.
>Hipster distros
>>53733254
thank you, is it worth switching from mint?
>>53733306
if you feel you're accostumed with linux as an environment
>>53733310
ok ty senpai <3
>>53733235
He doesn't look bleeding edge.
Or maybe it's arch is just slow...
>>53733235
>>53733480
I didn't enable the unstable repo
>>53733480
>5.6
Wayland?
>>53733006
Perhaps if you also plan to wait for bugfixes to obvious problems for 5+ years
>>53732996
It fucking sucks.
Have you ever used anything with systemd?
>>53733812
>Worksonmymachine.png
>>53733480
>KDE 5.6 on Gentoo
I call bullshit, you should've still been compiling that shit by now
>>53732958
>Why aren't you using the best GNU/Linux distribution?
Because I spend 8 hours a day staring at Stackoverflow and shitty documentation trying to fix things. Why would I want to spend my spare time doing it too.
>>53732958
Because I don't want to beta test for Manjaro
>>53733859
Just use antergos if you can't install with command line.
>>53733480
Been in a coma for 3 years, what the fuck, did they manage to make KDE look good at last?
>>53733939
It's fucking beautiful anon. Puts osx to shame.
>>53733822
I have to turn off chrome and wait for a bit, or systemd takes forever to shut down my computer.
Also, that piece of shit whines about the smallest possible problem and makes your computer useless for whole 90 seconds, and that adds up if there are more problems or the same one persists for a longer time.
When I upgrade, I'll try gentoo.
>>53734167
someone is mad they got told
>>53734032
butthurt noobunto babby detected
>>53734197
>doing the exact same thing depicted in the image
this has to be b8
I don't get the hate. I installed arch in one day like 6 months ago and nothing has broke since then. This argument is fucking retarded.
>>53734193
did arch kill your dog
I have yet to have arch break randomly so far every time it has broken has been my fault.
pacman a shit
xbps > Pacman
>>53735291
>a shit
\make a proper argument next time.
>>53733829
hahahaha this
>>53734756
I have yet to even have it "break" this fucking meme needs to die
>>53735291
seconded
>>53732981
/thread
>>53735316
try voidlinux, anon. It's great, you won't miss arch.
>>53734193
>no package singing
>in this time and age
Pic related
>>53734278
Same. Installed at the new year haven't had a problem with it since.
>>53732993
As opposed to Arch, right?
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2015-July/039443.html
>Arch has *never* been minimalist... a Linux kernel with every module available and every feature enabled at least when there's no non-bloat
related cost, feature-packed/complex GNU tools, nearly all optional features enabled across all the packages, etc.
>It has always used significantly more disk space and a measurable amount of additional memory than Debian and especially Gentoo as a consequence of keeping things simple (again, from a development perspective).
Get shit on you stupid fucking cunt.
>>53735340
The meme does.
>KISS philosophy
>makepkg is literally a 3k lines bash script
wew lad
>>53735412
OP here. Tell me a little about void. What's better in void when compared to arch?
>>53733226
Because these cucks are autistic neckbeard, don't get baited into arch meme. Debian is the answer.
>>53735955
How does Gentoo feel as a desktop OS? Been using arch for a year now, and Gentoo looks like a fun alternative, is it too difficult to get proprietary software on it?
>>53736301
>cucks
>autistic
>neckbeard
Normal people use windows so don't pretend a faggot with a fetish for ancient software like you is safe.
>>53736305
Don't bother unless you have an excelent cpu. It can take like 20 minutes to compile firefox
>>53736410
Are there any visible advantages to Gentoo though? I'm sure there's something going for it
i have arch installed by i'm only using barebone components; i3, urxvt, dmenu, and some xresources colors to spruce it up. thing is, i can't get my folders to not look puke green, and navigating through zsh is a pain at times. i'm using windows 8.1 as my main OS, but i go back to it once in a while to try and embrace it more. It's really annoying because i want to try and get wine to work with my programs like abelton and photoshop, but i don't know how to winecfg most shit so that it shows up in dmenu and wine automatically scripts itself to work with it.
does anyone else have a similar disposition? i really like what i have, but i just don't know how to use it efficiently. also i can't get mpv to seek through a folder while a video is playing. and ncmpcpp is giving me network errors. all gripes i want to go through because i try to just use transmission or foobar it makes me question why i bothered using it.
>>53736483
A minimal install will usually mean lots of stuff missing, it's actually difficult to have everything working when you cut everywhere
>>53732971
http://systemd-free.org/
>>53736553
well it's mostly configuration files i think in my /etc. i'm not upset about that, but it's a pain to figure out how to actually edit them when the manpages don't do much other than commands for me, even worse for wine.
>>53736476
Slightly faster boots and no systemd
>>53736476
Yes, the entire concept of portage. People keep memeing about "muh 2% performance gains" for some reason, but that's not even close to why people use Gentoo. I can't stress enough just how fucking flexible the packaging system is while still being easy enough to use that you don't have to practically become a distro maintainer to actually use it.
Don't want systemd? Cool, just set -systemd in your global USE flags.
Want to use libressl instead of openssl? Set libressl in your global USE flags.
Need to write a patch to fix a bug or add custom functionality to a package without maintaining your own totally seperate package? OK, write the patch, drop it in /etc/portage/patches/${CATEGORY}/${PACKAGE_NAME} and then portage will apply the patch every time you install or update that package.
Don't want gtk3 support in Firefox?echo www-client/firefox -gtk3 > /etc/portage/package.use/firefox
>>53736677
>no systemd
Optionally. You can absolutely have systemd if you do real sysadmin work and you don't just pretend to care about the UNIX philosophy because some retard on /g/ told you systemd is bad once.
>>53733981
fuck man, you sound like pussy
if you want to turn off you computer then just hold power button
no problems with that mythical 90 seconds
>>53732958
can i install it without monitor/keyboard/mouse to my rpi 3 via ssh ?
>>53738583
Yup!
>>53738773
how ;^)
>>53738827
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_SSH
>>53732993
>debian bloated
elmao
>>53734032
>>53734167
why is this meme everywhere? ive used arch for 3 years and it just werks.
>>53736173
Lack of packages
>>53733981
# halt
>>53736773
that's really neat
>>53736773
is there a preconfigured Gentoo for the average desktop user?
>>53733829
Takes about 10 min to compile on my i5 mobile.
>>53734032
>>53734193
>I never used Arch
Pathetic
>>53740306
No, but it's not hard to install either. Just follow the installation manual. The standard way of installation is by using a stage3 anyway. If you go the Funtoo way, this also includes a precompiled debian kernel, so you don't have to fiddle with that either.
>>53740354
I've used Arch, but Funtoo is better in literally every way.
>>53736410
for some large packages, firefox is one of them, there is a binary package available.
>>53740362
Why do I need an installation manual to install a desktop OS? I'm accustomed to the GUI providing enough information to guide me through the installation and leave as little room for human error as possible.
>>53735635
then why do i have to disable package signing to install my shitty proprietary ported software
>>53740417
>not knowing how to update pacman keys
>using arch
Pick none
>>53740404
I never said you would need that? I just gave information on the installation procedure as you asked about wether there is a preconfigured Gentoo. There isn't. If you dislike this, then Gentoo isn't for you, and I wouldn't suggest you try it out.
>>53735635
Citations please
>>53740453
You don't have to be rude
This turns me off to the idea of Gentoo
>>53740428
That was literally the second thing I did before installing all my crap. Also the point is it does have package signing.
>>53740493
What part of my reply was "rude" in your opinion?
I'm just telling you there is no preconfigured Gentoo.
>>53740536
Your tone
Can't you read?
>>53740572
Sounds like you just don't want any advice.
>>53740617
Why are you so condescending?
>>53740453
I think he just has slight asbergers. Distros are designed for certain kind of users. If you are interested in the process of compliling and configuring then gentoo is the one for you. He's trying to express that the point of having a guide and not a do-it-for-you installer is so that you can get an in-depth feel on how operating systems work.
It's not an exclusive club or something, its just a matter of using the right tool for the job.
>>53740651
ehh I meant >>53740493
don't hate me
(you both have poor social skills though)
>>53740636
Why are you such a touchy fucking child?
Grow the fuck up. Nobody cares about your feelings.
>>53740706
Wow, you are so jaded and it's sad, really.
Because I use BSD, it's for people who like Unix.
Best desktop OS with MacOSX
Best server with OpenBSD or FreeBSD
Best NAS with FreeNAS
Best router/firewall with PFSense.
1/3 of peak internet traffic comes from a FreeBSD server. This is a testament to the superior IP stack in BSD's.
>Not using Kali
>>53740735
>growing past 3 years old
>not being jaded
>>53740768
>Best desktop OS with MacOSX
>MacOSX
>>53740802
Hi, I'm you
>>53740819
2016 is going to be year of the GNU/Linux Desktop! i-i-i s-s-wear guys!
![3fd[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/NMmc7tH.png "3fd[1].png")
>>53740636
You fucking spoiled cunt.
Do you really think in real life everybody will go around licking your ass and making sure that your feelings are not hurt?
Anon is just giving you a bit of taste from what's about to come.
At one point in life you will have to be somebody's bitch.
>>53732958
b..b..but I am senpai... using Systemd/xmonad as my WM
i am.
keep sucking poettering's SystemDick.
Retarded lazy maintainers.
Typical arch dev responses:
>"uh, just make your own pkgbuild, not our problem..."
>'uh, you can hack pacman if you want..."
>"NOT OUR PROBLEM"
>"WE'RE KEEPING IT SIMPLE (FOR US) REEEEE"
>>53741059
>HOSTED
>ON
>GITHUB
How can you use GNU/Linux and rely on a proprietary site full of left-reactionary and right-reactionary political trolls while maintaining a good conscience?
Literally a meme distro, made of memes, for memes.
Why runit? Because it's a meme. It's "the" cool non-systemd init. Why github? Because it's the cool meme site with an epic octocat mascot, eat shit dogcow.
Just use gentoo.
>>53736173
no systemd, awesome package manager, growing package repo and non-cancerous community
runit is a really fast
libressl + musl (optional) instead of glibc
and there are packages like i3-gaps in the official repos, so you don't have to compile
>>53741216
>slower core C library with fewer big name users and more undiscovered bugs as a rule
>alpha version SSL lib because the main one had a bug in an old version that debian fags were using
>has rice in the official repos
yeah no
>>53741179
replying to obvious bait, but meh.
First off: i'm no linux-libre/GNUtard.
I did use gentoo for about a month. In theory portage is nice, in practice it's shit.
I mean masking/unmasking certain packages so i can install another certain package? really?!
>>53741113
You actually raise a good point
but do understand arch has only a few number of devs
>>53741059
Kek nice distrolet
how many packages have you got yet? A few hundred? Pls
>>53741246
I don't want you to use void, stay with arch you fedora tipping subhuman
>>53742252
yeah, a few hundred.
Tbh as an arch user I think void is fine, no need to give him shit. It's neat that there's a void flavour that comes out of the box with musl libc
>>53742492
Kek does it even have pulse audio? Like many fully functioning distros?
>>53733254
>unless when the update is related to pacman
but I guess is yaourt issues.
as far I understand pacman uses yaourt, right?
is there any AUR helper that doesn't affect pacman, or a better option than yaourt.?
>>53742546
we're at least two different voidfags ITT.
But to be fair, i need Arch as a secondary system solely for the Androud compat-libs. At least until Android N.
>>53742667
I think so. Tough real men use ALSA with a good .asoundrc - wich may not be needed on void if you don't use a sound card (it's designed to work on a basic setup without conf file). My system would be mute on the sound card, but i took the .asoundrc over from Arch. Yes, i was an Arch user for almost 3 years.
>>53742792
I don't think so. Pulse audio requires systemd which void doesn't have.
Void is the definition of hipster trash. Tries to stay away from GNUs C Compiler but the userland itself is GNU
Do you know what else void is void of? Major Desktop Environments like GNOME and KDE. Unless you don't run GNU/Linux there is no place for this hip distro(let)
>>53742868
ok fine, i'm going too boot up my pc and check it for you fag.
>>53742868
>>53743160
Install it, GMOME shell
>>53742868
seriosly 5 min between posts?
>>53743184
no.
>>53742868
>>53743235
What's the point of avoiding systemd if you have pulseaudio? Running this without systemd is a guaranteed breakage
>>53743412
the [-] indicates i have not installed this package.
It would certainly work, else it wouldn't be in the repo.
Try it yourself in a vm or smth.
>>53743450
Not saying it won't work. Using an ALSA module as PulseAudio sink/source is NOT a good idea. Read the gentoo wiki
>>53743501
i can't give you any experience with pulseaudio on void. I already avoided it like a plague when i used arch.
>>53733859
Just use architect installer if you can't install with command line.
