Is it worth getting the 11" MacBook Air, or should I wait for the Retina version? I can't find a laptop of this size/specs for the price.
>inb4 install Thinkpad/Gentoo/Gahnoo
>inb4 muh freedoms
>inb4 1366x768
If there's going to be a Retina version, consider your eyes.
I'd honestly always spend a little bit extra for something where I can read shit without issues. I still have nightmares with 1680x1050 on 23''.
That said if you can't afford it, get that. Though it depends on usage, if you really just want a facebook machine everything is cheaper.
It's probably gonna be refreshed and be what the new Macbook is now. So you might see a price increase. In that case then I would wait and see what happens and buy the model before the redesign if price increases happen.
>>53732212
>muh-muh 16:10
>permanent 100 pixel tall top bar
>500 pixel tall dock shit
The Air is shit, esp. the 11" version.
Either get a 12" Macbook or a Macbook Pro, else XPS13.
>>53732212
wrong board
>>53732212
Asus X205TA
HP Stream 11
OS X has become so inefficient, an Atom with Windows 10 would do more work and run smoother than an Ultrabook i5 on OS X while providing superior battery life.
Asus for Windows use only.
HP for Windows and Linux flexibility.
Also Apple really punishes you for being a poorfag, their low-tier computers are absolutely fucking garbage, if you desperately want a Mac, save up for the Retina.
>>53732212
NOT
YOUR
PERSONAL
MACSHIT
SHOPPING
GUIDE
FUCK
OFF
>>53732253
[citation needed]
>>53732212
>i can't even figure out what computer i need
Where do technology illiterate mactards get the false impression that they belong or are welcome on /g/?
>>53732212
>I want the bright white apple in my computer so I can be as cool as my boyfriend as we touch each others dicks under the Starbucks table
4chan isn't a place for you, OP
>macshilling
wait until MacBook comes with detachable iPad for display in 2018
>>53732311
>>53732324
You care more about the brand than about the technology, and yet you think everyone else is wrong place on a technology board?
>macfags shit up entire board with constant disguised shill, recommendations, bait, circlejerking etc. shit threads all day 24/7
>w-why do u guys hate us?!?!
>w-we have a rite to be here two!
>>53732334
>meme brand toddler toys
>technology
Back to >>>/lgbt/ with you.
OP you do realize this is /g/? It's like getting into a north american college and saying something like "well I'm not a very good fan of... the black people". You'll get the triggering 2016 edition.
>>53732334
You are talking about Apple. Apple means really expensive technology.
You can get more useful notebooks with less money
I'm waiting on the 12" Macbook update. I don't even think there will be a new Air. It'll get replaced by the Macbook.
>>53732376
>i'm waiting for a $1300 core m fashion accessory
No. The screen is shit. It's a glossy low-res TN display. Not worth $1,000.
Apple's entire lineup is shit at the moment, desu senpai. But if you really want a Mac, go for a rMBP. It's the only decent machine right now. The 13" model is thin and light enough to work as an ultraportable.
>>53732354
Tell me, what exactly makes Apple a "meme brand"?
>>53732366
Macbooks are priced similar to other highend notebooks, I don't see the probleme there.
>>53732388
Skylake*
>>53732376
It's a shame that the Macbook sucks so much. It actually looks great, but everything except the appearance is dogshit.
>>53732395
>Macbooks are priced similar to other highend notebooks, I don't see the probleme there.
Not true. Macbooks are always 20-30% more expensive for the specs. Maybe they are price-competitive if you value the design highly, but not if you just look at specs.
Look OP, there's only 3 things Apple does right:
-OSX (if I say "their operating system" someone may take it as iOS and no, that's not "right" nowadays)
-The best trackpads by far, there's no subjectivity around it
-rMBPs
So if it's not one of those, don't buy.
You could also get the trackpad separately, and OSX in a normal computer just without facetrash so whatever really
>>53732440
You're welcome to link a machine with the same or better specs of a 13 inch $1299 rMBP at a better price
>>53732440
>Not true
It is true. XPS13, MBPr 13", E7450, T450 are all within them same price range +- ~$150.
And that while the Macbook has a 16:10 panel, PCIe storage and has by far the best trackpad on the market.
I don't see how that is a bad value when you are shopping for highend laptops.
>>53732484
Asus ROG G55VW-DH71
$200 cheaper
2x better
>>53732543
I hope this is a troll.
Asus ROG laptops are just worse on so many levels it doesn't even fit into one post
>>53732543
Far inferior screen
500GB HDD (LOL)
Mate?
>>53732212
>inb4 1366x768
In 2000 fucking 16. So just no. The 11" Air was always the worst Macbook but now with Retina Macbook for almost the same price (if you go for same spec) it's downright retarded.
Retina Macbook got much better screen, is lighter and SMALLER while having a bigger screen. Performance and battery life are pretty close. Also it got better speakers.
>>53732244
You can adjust both.
>>53732440
> It actually looks great, but everything except the appearance is dogshit.
Clearly never used it.
> Macbooks are always 20-30% more expensive for the specs.
Clearly doesn't understand laptops either. Macbook is pretty unique since it combines HiRes screen with small and light hardware. rMBP is one of the few ultraportables that use 28W CPU and pretty hard to beat at the price point too. This is assuming you're just looking for a laptop. Once you count in 16:10 screens and superior trackpads, there is nothing at all left.
>>53732566
Not him, but adjust the top bar? I can only see that happening with changing the resolution.
>>53732264
>HP Stream 11
Not that anon, but it's common sense. Why would you want a core m CPU that throttles itself to sub-GHz clocks when doing something remotely CPU intensive with it? A newer Celeron or Atom will give you the same performance and user experience for 25% of the price.
>>53732590
Well that or making it disappear when you're not using it. Think they added it with Le Capitan.
>>53732212
I think there won't be a retina version of the Air.
I think there won't be anymore Air, and it will be replaced by the MacBook
>>53732562
G55VW-DH71 for the same price as the MacBook. 128GB SSD and 1TB. Now 3x better
I used one before I switched to an ipad. It was a brilliant "facebook machine", I never had even one browser crash. Well actually I still use it for porn and torrents. The OS is very tidy and I much prefer it to Windows, even though I love windows 10.
On a semi-related note, my ipad is a bit locked down and it annoys me sometimes when I can't do things, but the app store has better apps, and the fingerprint scanner is great. Still wouldn't recommend it though desu, way too expensive for what you get. Next time I'll be buying a samsung or a windows tablet or something. Just thought I'd try it given that I love my macbook.
>>53732627
Still worse screen, build quality (Asus LOL) and support
Plus it looks like shit
G55VW-DH74*
>>53732627
>>53732627
>Worse build quality
>Worse input devices
>Worse storage
>Worse battery life
>bigger
>heavier
>...
I mean, i could go on for days but nice try dude. You clearly don't know shit about laptops, now off to >>>/v/ gaymerkid.
>>53732212
Get a dell XPS 13 faggot
>>53732619
Yeah you can hide the top bar. I wonder why anyone would though.
>>53732607
>A newer Celeron or Atom will give you the same performance and user experience
That's just not the case. Core M is way closer to i5 than all the Atom and Celeron trash and only throttles when you put constant and heavy load on it. Say benchmarks, editing video or .... playing tasking games. Clearly the tasks people buy an ultrabook for.
>>53732627
Why are you naming a 15" laptop when the rMBP is a fucking 13'3 ultrabook?
>>53732665
Well, all you're losing is the clock but gain few pixels, which is pretty noticeable on small screens.
Why are Macbooks and OSX so shit that they're worse than XXTREME gaymer laptops when doing anything other than facebooking?
Can OS X be "jailbreaked" somehow?
I know it's a shitty restricted system but just for meme reasond, what's wrong about it?
>>53732676
Same applies to that model. Literally the only thing those ROG gaymer abominations do better than macbooks is CPU/GPU performance, everything else is a million times worse.
>>53732681
And the global menu, which has a purpose.
But yeah in a resolution like 1366x768 is not the best idea.
>>53732244
They can be hidden you autist
>>53732683
the mac is prob 4x lighter
>>53732684
>I know it's a shitty restricted system but just for meme reasond, what's wrong about it?
I'd kek'd.
>>53732699
But it appears there when you want to use it, it's not like you remove it forever.
>>53732702
>LIGHTER
Why are you so gay? Stop thinking like a girl
>>53732482
its literally 2/3 of those things therefore yiiii
>>53732702
iManlets, when will they learn?
>>53732718
Your manliness must be really fragile if it depends on your laptop.
>>53732683
They got about the same CPU but the Macbook got a much higher screen resolution. It's not like all the silly LEDs require that much energy and the benchmark doesn't even use the GPUs.
>>53732566
>Clearly never used it.
You don't have to use it to know the specs are shit. Mediocre battery life, terrible performance, and no connectivity are both OBJECTIVE problems that you never have to see the machine to understand.
But I have used it, so I can speak to the subjective qualities as well. The keyboard is god-awful. One micron of key travel is not enough and the layout is not good. The touchpad is fine, but "Force Touch" is a major downgrade.
>small and light hardware
I said that design is a factor I hadn't accounted for. For the SPECS, Macbooks are always overpriced. If you value the design highly, they may be worth it.
>>53732681
>That's just not the case. Core M is way closer to i5 than all the Atom and Celeron trash and only throttles when you put constant and heavy load on it. Say benchmarks, editing video or .... playing tasking games. Clearly the tasks people buy an ultrabook for.
So, if gaming, productivity and media creation are out of the question because that's what throttles the Core M CPU then what's left? Exactly: facebook browsing and using an office suite. Something a Celeron + SSD will handle perfectly fine.
>>53732730
It's a fucking laptop, who cares if it weight 10kg? You should be able to handle it
Millions of years of evolution for nothing
>>53732741
>le retina maymay
>higher than 4k
Ok kid.
What about the ASUS ux303ua/la/lb ultabooks, Are they worth the shekels?
>>53732771
You probably use your laptop to fap to anime porn without leaving your bed, I carry it around daily. You know that comfort is a thing?
You could also ditch your car, bike and walk everywhere because shit, who cares right?
>>53732771
I need a lighter laptop because when I sit at starbucks sipping my latté, it suits my slim figure and skinny jeans.
>>53732718
>buy a laptop
>is heavier than a desktop
>"light laptop are for manlet kek"
>>53732765
>Mediocre battery life
8h is considered mediocre now? Maybe when compared to 13" Air with ghetto ass screen or some 3kg ThinkPad.
>terrible performance
Depends on the task.
>no connectivity
No ports =/= no connectivity. It depends on the use.
> The keyboard is god-awful.
Yap, clearly used it for 5 minutes at best.
>"Force Touch" is a major downgrade.
How exactly is a optional function a downgrade?
>SPECS
A laptop is more than that. You can buy some $600 piece of shit with faster CPU, sure but it'd be still a worse computer if you value a fast SSD and a good screen. Or weight, etc, etc.
>>53732770
>productivity and media creation are out of the question
I didn't know that everybody edits 4K videos on their laptop.
>>53732778
>4k
>the pic shows 1080p cancer
>>53732779
>1920x1080
Lol.
>>53732804
My laptop goes where I go, college, café, friend's house, whatever
My point is that with a proper bag for your laptop it doesn't matter the extra weight, you get used to it quickly, the weight it's not a decisive point
>>53732804
>not walking 30km to your job while carrying a 10kg laptop
Fucking manlet detected.
>>53732779
No. There is only one non-apple consumer grade laptop thats worth buying atm is the XPS13/15.
>>53732872
Isn't it riddled with over 9000 hardware issues or was it the previous version?
>>53732838
>heavier than a deskop
A few pounds won't ruin your nails, sweety
>>53732854
at least its a decent samsung ips panel
>>53732872
yea, but: http://www.ebuyer.com/735152-asus-zenbook-ux303lb-ultrabook-ux303lb-r4114h
>>53732905
That's almost 1k dollar, way too close to better alternatives.
>>53732880
Not that I know of. A few qc issues here and there, nothing out of the ordinary.
But if you want a really solid laptop go Latitude 7k or Elitebook.
>>53732905
Yeah, >$1k is a lot but i always hated low-mid range laptops. If you use it mostly stationary its ok i guess, for everything else I can't recommend something like that.
And you'll use a decent laptop 5+ years without it even showing wear, worth the investment imo.
>>53732212
It will overheat if you try and do anything more strenuous than checking Facebook. Apple doesn't give a fuck and their overpriced shit is about the same quality as those $100 cherry trail atom miniPCs that cook themselves under load.
>>53732253
This anon knows what he's talking about. Have an X205TA, love it.
>>53732942
like?
>>53732949
I'll use it mostly for muh coding and I'll probably carry it around alot.
>>53732991
Like Macbook or rMBP for 1.3k, or if you hate Apple, the XPS, which is 1k too if you can tolerate 1080p, while having more RAM.
>>53732991
>I'll use it mostly for muh coding and I'll probably carry it around alot.
You'll want a robust laptop with a decent keyboard.
For the small budget get a refurb thinkpad (e.g. T420, 430, 440 or X220, 230, 240 if you want something smaller. Note the shitty display on the 12" one. Also the *40 series have shitty trackpads by default, but they can be replaced.)
If you want to get something new look at the current thinkpad models (*50/*60, agian X/T series), Latitude E5450/5470, Latitude E7450/E7470, XPS13, Elitebook 820/840. Cant recommend 12" Dells, they are loud as fuck.
>>53732394
I paid 600 for my 2014 air last year. The TN isn't even noticeable if you use it inside for the most part. The only valid point you have is the resolution, which i do wish was larger.
>>53733028
the xps and macbooks cost 200 to 400 more. Theres an empty ram slot so, i'll probably expand to 12.
>>53733068
Eh, the 1080p XPS is $999 and even lesser with 4GB cancer.
Both macbooks have twice the RAM, much faster SSD (and bigger if Macbook), much better trackpads and way better screens, that's 300 bucks well spent. Also prolly better battery life too.
>>53733066
600 is a decent price for it. Spending more for the shit screen is pretty crazy though.
>>53732890
>>53732771
>>53732864
You are the same faggot from that Macbook Air thread that I made a while ago. Fuck off, you autistic faggot, why not carry a 10kg phone? You will get use to it after a while. This laptops are made light so that you can use it with comfort.
Your logic is so fucking stupid, I rememveber you saying being able to hold a vechile transmission and shit. Just fuck off, you act like a big man, but you are probably a giant pussy.
>>53733126
It works for me and it is the 13.3 one not the 11. I needed something light with good battery life for university.
>>53733198
Yeah, had a 13.3" Air before too and for TN, it's a pretty damn nice screen, hell possibly the best consumer TN screen but once you go HiRes IPS it starts to look damn ugly. Kinda like SSD - HDD difference.
>>53733109
I'm on a budget though and the reviews say that both the trackpad and keyboard are comparable to any mac. Again, empty ram slot for 30 I'll 12gb.
The cheapest dell is 200 pounds more, you can check the uk website.
>>53733065
None of the thinkpads have a dedicated gpu or an i7 at that price range, although I'll probably look around for some refurbished deals, thanks.
>>53733146
I'm not that guy you're talking about.
Phone =/= laptop, my friend.
You take your latop in a bag, go wherever you wanna go, put your laptop in a table or your legs and use it.
You put your phone out of your pocket to check what time is it, you write a message holding your phone with your bare hands.
Do you write an essay with your laptop holding it in the air? No. You don't use it the same way so your logic it's the one that fails here.
Also I'm not saying that less weight it's uselles, it's just that I don't consider the weight of a laptop something to think too much about
when buying one, there's thing more important than your girly back being hurt by 5 extra kilos.
>>53732253
>>53732975
Question about the X205TA.
Does the microSD card stay flush or does it protrude?
>>53733312
>None of the thinkpads have a dedicated gpu or an i7 at that price range, although I'll probably look around for some refurbished deals, thanks.
i7 in laptops are shit, at least in somewhat portable ones.
Either its a ULV i7, in that case its just an overpriced i5, or its a i7m, in which case it is hot, power hungry and will throttle anyways if you need the additional performance.
Similar thing goes for GPUs, depending on your needs a Skylake IGP might be enough for you, those things are actually pretty insane.
>>53733359
The MicroSD card clicks into place. Does not stick out or protrude.
>>53732684
>he thinks OS X is restricted
>he thinks it needs a jailbreak
Kek. /g/ Memeing goes far.
>>53732339
underrated
Wait anon. Apple seems to be up to some shit.
>>53733312
>200 pounds more
Holy shit, you carrying around an 80's luggable or something?
>>53733386
Awesome. Thanks!
>>53733419
Thunderbolt 3. They're going to go all-in.
>>53733463
That would be anticlimactic!
>>53733426
he was referring to the currency you idiot
>>53733312
do they have those dank dell outlet coupons over there too?
some pretty good deals to be had
>>53733666
>1366x768
>>53733696
And applel charges $900 for it. It's amazing that mactards can breathe on their own without assistance.
>>53733672
checked the outlet, mostly shit deals except for one inspiron with the same cpu/gpu and coupons are none existent.
>>53733666
Nice VM
>>53733666
>mark of the beast
>1366x768
resolution from hell confirmed
>>53733726
that sucks. you can get another 30% off xps laptops right now in freedom land
>>53732975
how does linux run on that machine anon?
>>53732975
>atom processor
>love it
There's no need to lie on the internet.
>>53733666
How comes the font rendering is so fucking great on 1366x768?
>>53733835
Because its not Windows.
How about the dell xps 13? Gorgeous machine, high res and about the right size
>>53733885
Pretty much better than the macintrash in every way.
10/10 build quality
Aluminum chassis + carbon fiber surfaces
Soft edges that don't slit your wrists every time you rest your hands on it to type like macbooks
Doesn't overheat and throttle to 800mhz
Same weight
Same bottom bezel size as macs, but top and side bezels almost eliminated
Gets better battery life since it's not running the abomination that is OSX
>>53734020
>10/10 build quality
More 8/10, its good but it has quite some flex to it
>Aluminum chassis + carbon fiber surfaces
Thats more a subjective thing
>Soft edges that don't slit your wrists every time you rest your hands on it to type like macbooks
Thats just bullshit
>Doesn't overheat and throttle to 800mhz
That doesn't happen
>Gets better battery life since it's not running the abomination that is OSX
The 13" MBPr has more battery life than the 1080p XPS13
Macbook has a 16:10 display and the better trackpad. Its easier to replace the XPS battery though.
The XPS is a pretty good laptop, no need to shill by spreading lies.
>>53732212
Skipped pretty much all of the shitposting
I have one from 2014 and I like it
At the time it was impossible to find an 11" machine with a low voltage i7 and 8GB ram for 1200 euromonies, any windows machine was 1600 and up. From what I've seen, only the razer ultrabook seems like an actual interesting alternative
Honestly, I don't mind the resolution at all. Is the retina going to be the same price or more expensive?
>>53732212
>Can't replace RAM without destroying it
>Can't replace SSD without destroying it
>Can't replace with aftermarket RAM or SSD anyway
https://www.ifixit.com/Device/MacBook_Air_11%22_Early_2015
Here read this and don't buy anything from Apple ever.
>>53734651
*find a different 11" machine
