Why didn't you get a math degree /g/?
>>53721229
But I'm doing both
I have a CS degree
>>53721229
>bachelor's in CS
>expected to be reading a graduate text in mathematics
fucking idiots
and yeah I'm doing applied math because I don't think I can handle the austism that is the CS dept. Plus there's a lot of girls in the math dept surprisingly
>>53721229
I did.
>>53721229
All the math majors I know are NEETs.
>>53721313
Springer randomly assigns their books as graduate or undergraduate. I read many grad in undergrad, such as Bondy and Murty (am CS major).
>>53721297
This. Double major CS/Math master race.
>>53721799
No one fucking cares about your double major. Enjoy spending an extra year on something useless.
>>53721836
I didn't take an extra year though, I simply have my CS courses fulfill the electives of my Math degree and my Math courses fulfill the electives of my CS degree. I take the same number of total courses as either single degree.
>>53721229
>Why didn't you get a math degree /g/?
I don't like maths but CS appealed to me.
>>53721882
Sounds like a dumb program.
>>53721903
Why? if you have 40 courses for a degree, and then your CS requires 30 required courses and 10 eelectives, and math requires 30 required and 10 electives, but the two programs have a 10 course overlap (which they do), then it works out.
How does that make it a dumb program?
>>53721945
I'm sure that a computer architecture class does not count as an elective for math major.
>>53721836
If you're already doing a math degree a CS degree is totally in line with math.
What can I do with a math degree, other than teach math?
>>53721897
I think you're confused if you think CS is not a math degree.
>>53721994
Brag about it on /g/ and how you didn't fall for the CS meme
>>53721983
Any CS program worth 2 shits will at least have a data structures/algorithms and machine architecture requirement, which have nothing to do with math.
>>53722013
I think you didn't read my post properly.
>>53722038
Algorithms are math
>>53721903
"dumb program"
>>53721994
Learn some statistics then you can work with business administrators who need help analyzing and processing business data with statistical analysis and mathematical logic.
>>53722053
>not cambridge
>not even plebford
>>53722044
>I don't like math
>CS appeals to me even though it is math
??
>>53721975
We could take our electives in whatever you wanted.
Technical electives in the other hand had to be senior-level math courses for the math course and senior-level CS courses for the CS major. I think the programs were something like 10 technical electives (for what you want to specialize into in your field), 10 free electives (which you could use on anything, general, ed, etc, but people can still use them as they would technical ones), and then 20 core courses (ie calc, diff eq, linear algbera, stats, algorithms, real analysis, abstract algebra, combinatorics, computability theory, comp architecture, operating systems, numerical analysis, graph theory, etc)
>>53721882
>I take the same number of total courses as either single degree.
Guess how everyone knows you're either bullshitting about being a double major or are just in a really retarded program.
>>53722038
U wot m8? Those have everything to do with math.
>>53722053
That is not a double major. That is a single major.
>>53722064
>Cambridge didn't offer the course
>Oxford rejected me pre-interview because I pissed about in my GCSE year and got a nice set of B's.
I get to pretend I'm not salty.
I'm super salty.
>>53721229
But I'm planning to get a theology degree then work in programming field.
I just study theology for the sake of not wasting three years of my life doing nothing, while I use all my free time exclusively for sharpening programming.
Theology provides comfort, gated community food all I need, peace of mind being the most important of all. Hard to find in an environment filled with monkeys.
>>53722072
Yes, that's exactly what I meant.
How is this difficult for you to understand? I'm not fond of mathematics, but despite that, CS appealed to me because of its applications and areas.
Am I somehow obligated to enjoy calculus and mathematical analysis just because I'm more interested in algorithms, statistics and computational science and the non-math parts of CS such as programming, computer architecture and networks?
>>53722082
I'm in a university where we don't have to take a bunch of general ed courses in history, etc... they simply give us "electives" that we *can* take in those *if we want*, or we could use them on CS or math courses too.
What's retarded about having 20 core courses (for math this would be about 2-3 CS courses and 16 math courses, and a couple random things) and then 10 technical electives (senior math courses) and then 10 free electives? I don't get it.
>>53722101
single majors say 'with', double majors say 'and'
s'just how it works around here.
>>53722143
Is there a single major called "Mathematics"? Is there a single major called "Computer Science"? Does the program fulfill all the requirements of both majors?
>>53722134
Yes actually. Calculus and mathematical analysis are indeed fundamental parts of CS. Anybody who claims to be trained in CS but cannot deal with these topics are failures in CS.
>>53722184
>>53722134
You do realize there's a lot more to mathematics than calculus, right? There's a lot of areas you could focus on like algebra, graph theory, combinatorics, category theory, etc that are all much more applicable to (parts of) CS.
>>53722184
>Yes actually. Calculus and mathematical analysis are indeed fundamental parts of CS.
I'm sorry if this tickles your autism, but I sucked at calculus and barely passed and I didn't even find it remotely enjoyable.
>Anybody who claims to be trained in CS but cannot deal with these topics are failures in CS.
I never claimed to be "trained" in CS, but I do have a master's and I'm currently doing my PhD, so yeah.. Guess I'm a "failure in CS" then.
>>53722175
In the UK degrees work slightly differently.
In England at least when you do a degree you don't major in one subject then take options, you do the subject right throughout your 3 or 4 year degree.
So a CS grad will do lots of computer science and nothing else.
A maths grad will do lots of maths and nothing else
A compsci and maths grad will do half compsci half maths. (Most half decent uni's say the total work load is closer to 4/3 of a standard degree)
So no, the dual programme won't satisfy the requirements for both degrees, however they will satisfy the core fundamentals of both, then allow the student to specialise into more compsci or more maths in the final years.
>>53722207
>There's a lot of areas you could focus on like algebra, graph theory, combinatorics, category theory
This falls in under "computational mathematics" IMO. But yeah, those were the semi-fun mathematics.
Also, see >>53722225
Electrical/Computer Engineering masterrace unite!
>>53722207
Calculus is very useful for CS though. Not so sure about analysis though, though it should at least improve mathematical maturity.
>>53722338
I'm not saying it isn't, just that those other fields I mentioned are more useful and more importantly are more interesting to someone who would be interested in CS but not calculus.
>>53722207
CS is the theory of information and associated processing. In CS, we have a look at information problems, the data that's involved and look at what kind of mathematical structures the problem fits into. This is the essence of CS. Calculus and mathematical analysis are essential tools in CS work. Now it's quite possible you can do all kinds of CS work without touching calculus or mathematical analysis but you're severely limiting your abilities if you leave these areas out of your toolset.
>>53721229
Applied math is boring.
"Ever see what them computa bitchez do to numbas? It ain't natural. Numbas ain't supposed to be code, they supposed to quantify shit."
>>53722417
I would say you're limiting yourself a lot more without a knowledge of graph theory or linear algebra though. What I was saying before is that just because you don't like calculus, doesn't mean you won't like mathematics, since there's plenty of other fields (algebra pun :^)).
>>53722534
I can accept that. CS as a discipline is indeed very wide.
I like the math part :) applied mathetacs ROCK even if i study CS... But there is one some things math cant teach unfortunately like how to handle project, how HW work ( they teach us here that too :D ), how to project software and more... :) so dont worry, i think you havent seen much CS till now :) just learn math OP you will use it very very very much :)
>>53722626
Jesus Christ stop triggering me
>:)
>>53722626
>applied mathetacs ROCK
until you realize the computer can do it all for you.
>>53722134
I agree. Mathematics seems dull and boring. But CS which utilizes mathematics and critical thinking is fun. I think it's because I actually can make something rather than utilize predefined algorithms.
This goes for classes at a uni atleast.
>>53722675
Applied mathematics doesn't mean "I can compute an algorithm". Using a computer to compute an equation doesn't mean the computer is capable of applying mathematical logic to solve real world problems.
>>53722785
OP is talking about a "math degree". Not CS. Of course you can offload a lot of that to a computer.
