Previously on: >>53709527
Welcome to /fg/lt/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /fg+lt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
Does anyone actually fstrim their Android?
also first for Ubuntu 16.04 Unity is good edition
When installing Debian, is there any good reason to NOT use netinst, aside from not having a stable internet connection on the machine you're going to install it on?
>Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian
Get rid of the "literally" in future pls, it is triggering my autism
>>53718771
No, use netinst
>>53718775
get help
>>53718771
Not really, unless you want to just install and use/dont want to spend a little time building up the system
>>53718771
If you don't know how to setup a DE/WM or just dont care because the defaults are fine for your usecase, it's easier to just get one of the bigger installers.
>>53718755
dubs right away
not really, unless you travel a lot
> Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
>>53718816
>unless you travel a lot
Uhhhh wut
What does fstrim have to do with travelling?
>>53718821
>still not including http://www.funtoo.org/Bash_by_Example,_Part_1
get your act together man
>>53718791
I don't need help, I need sentences without "literally"
When did it become unnecessary to type apt-get and just type apt?
Is btrfs worth a shot? Vs. Ext4, lvm , mdraid
>>53718904
You can use LVM on any FS
>>53718904
yep, using it right now on my Ubuntu 16.04 laptop (with a SSD)
>>53718899
Apt-get is a front-end for Apt.
Just like Aptitude is a front end for apt-get, and thus also for apt.
They are not the same though and it's good practice to pick one and stick to it
>Then Debian is for you. Also, fun fact, Ubuntu and hundreds of other distros are based on Debian, because of how solid and stable it is.
>Download the netinstall iso from here and burn it to a USB with a program called Rufus (on Windows):
>https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>Right after you install Debian Stable, you will want to upgrade to Testing sooner rather than later. It's better for your desktop experience.
>You can look up how to do that on the wiki's or ask around here
So I should start learning with Testing?
Why is it better for my desktop experience?
Don't know if it's retarded to point out or not, but I'll be doing this on an x220
>>53718891
you literally repeated it yourself
>>53718858
Just checked the page, that macfag has no idea what he's doing. Is this a joke site?
>tfw helping family members and friends transition from Windows to GNU/Linux
>tfw they are very happy with it
it's such a nice feel, /flt/. it warms my heart
>>53719056
what distro?
did this about 2 years back with xubuntu, no complaints so far, it's so comfy even normies like it, even though i use Unity myself now
>>53718904
Some people report it breaking often, others dont have issues after years of running it. I'm part of the latter group. You should be fine if you want to try btrfs, but it's not very good at high IO. So dont use it to host a database server on or something.
>>53719035
Nice b8
>>53718989
Just install stable and use backports. If you really want all the newer software, go straight to unstable. Never use testing.
>>53718989
Yes. You see, there are three 'versions' of current Debian at any given point:
>Debian Stable (codename Jessie, at the moment):
Pros: Rock solid foundation. Shit just can't break unless you somehow fuck it up. Great security updates.
Cons: The software in the repos will obviously be a bit older, because priority is given to stability rather than constant updates.
This is what is normally used for servers or for systems you don't plan on using very recent software on
>Debian Testing (codename Stretch, at the moment):
Pros: Still very solid foundation. This is what becomes the next Stable after a certain time. Lots of updates available, so you get the best of both worlds: stability and constant updates.
Cons: Unfrequent security updates
This is what is normally used for desktops
>Debian Unstable (codename Sid, at the moment):
Pros: bleeding edge software, the newest of the new.
Cons: is not as stable, obviously. But Ubuntu is based on this, so even this is not all that bad.
This is mostly used by developers
Personally I like Testing. But you can also do what this guy said and only use stable with backports.
>>53719166
>>53719166
>testing
testing is fine, that faggot would probably like it better because of the new shiny packages
>>53719195
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html#s3.1
>>53719219
trynna make him a man and here you are with your pussy-ass crap
>>53719234
this, gtfo >>53719219
Testing for desktops is standard
Testing is essentially worst of both worlds. If you want newer packages just use unstable. People who know jackshit about Debian keep recommending testing for some weird fucking reason.
>>53719276
because it fucking werks, dip, it's not the worst of anything
you must be trolling by now, testing is stable as fuck
>>53719194
>>53719276
>best of both worlds
>worst of both worlds
getting mixed signals here guys
>>53719290
Testing is stable most of the time, as is unstable. The problems come around when they aren't. Testing might be broken for weeks or months while unstable gets patched within a day.
I've been running unstable on my desktop for 6 years without problems. Just install apt-listbugs and read through them when upgrading.
>>53719290
Freezes
doesn't matter
debian is shit anyway
>>53719365
and thus the circle of trolling is complete
>>53719194
>This is mostly used by developers
So I should use Unstable?
I'm transitioning to Linux and am majoring in Software Engineering so I want an OS that functions well in that area.
>>53719365
go away ubuntard
>>53719404
That's probably the stupidest reason to use unstable. If you want new packages, use it. If you want stability, use stable. Don't use testing, these fucking retards don't know what they're talking about.
>>53719404
by all means, try Unstable then. You're going to have to be a bit more careful when updating, but other than that you'll be fine
Does an mdadm raid always need to sync after creation? Was going to experiment a bit but it takes 8 fucking hours every time. Am I just being an idiot?
>>53719421
>>53718710
>Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
>>53719404
Yeah just do that. Just make sure you do a netinstall of Stable and THEN upgrade to Unstable. Don't download installers for Unstable.
>>53719421
>>53719433
lol alright I'll go with stable and then if I find a reason to need the newer stuff I'll change to unstable.
Thanks guys.
convert this.png GRAY:this.opus
>>53719481
Is it PC guiyse dasu dasu
>>53719421
These threads are like Ubuntu forums. People reply as if they know their stuff even if they don't and you just have to wade through the bullshit and hope that someone is actually helpful.
>>53719481
Reminder that ImageMagick can do your mother.
>>53719501
>pc dasu
This isn't /b/ faggot.
>>53719599
>faggot
>this isn't bee
Could have fooled me Chip Hansom
>>53719442
anyone?
Is there a remote viewing server for ubuntu that saves sessions and doesnt require a fuckload of hacks to get it to work?
I have issues with tasks running several times because it's a different session every time.
>>53718694
anyone?
So I'm getting a new rig delivery next week
i7 6700K 4GHz
16 GB DDR4-2133
M.2 250GB SSD
1TB 7.2K RPM HDD SATA III
NVIDIA 980 GTX Ti
I want to install Fedora 23 on it. How well do you think it will cope? Will I be able to utilise the full power of the GPU or will it be shit even with the broken-ass proprietary nvidia drivers?
>Debian has /usr/local/games and /usr/games in PATH
What a bunch of manchildren.
>>53719701
the prompt is possible but autosuggestion and completion is not
>>53719705
GNU/Linux runs on every toaster. If it really happens someone got a VERY old toaster from 1980, then the most DE's have a fallback mode.
Just install what you want. There is no such thing like "compatible with Window 10". That's just adversement M$ brainmeltery.
>>53719705
Nvidia proprietary drivers kinda-ish work, unless it's a laptop with optimus
>>53719750
>he doesn't build his own PATH from scratch
I bet you use Arch because of the "customization"
>>53719774
I know what you mean all too well. I have Arch installed in a laptop with Optimus. What a fucking piece of shit. Gave up using bumblebee or anything like that and went straight with the proprietary drivers.
Has anyone here ever used /usr/local ever in his life
How do I make my fonts look pretty without infinality? Everywhere I look it's just people saying "lol install infinality" but I don't want to do that. I just want to learn how to set up a nice font configuration file. If I could somehow make it look like mac OS X that would be nice.
>>53719872
Ever day. Your bins go there.
>>53719872
Nah, I only use /usr/foreign
>>53719888
GAS THE FILES
FOLDER WAR NAO
>>53719883
Don't they go in /usr/bin?
>>53719902
And so it begins. The great Folder war of our era
>>53719904
Oh wait, I guess bins not installed through the package manager go there.
>>53719872
>>53719941
I put stuff that should be system-wide accessible, but not installed with the package manager, in /usr/local. Stuff that's only used by my single user goes into ~/.local.
In FreeBSD (and possibly other BSDs), /usr/local contains all the garbage that you installed. You could essentially empty that directory, and have a clean system again.
I've got two monitors, primary is smaller and on the bottom (laptop), bigger one is above it. What I want to do is to make desktop icons default to the laptop screen.
I've tried this on MATE, XFCE and Cinnamon and neither seems to allow it by default; icons always autoarrange to the top leftmost screen. Is there any way to circumvent this on either DE?
>>53718899
Um, late last year? At apt v1.0.
>>53718946
The apt binary is from the same package as apt-get and friends. They are all frontends to dpkg.
No you don't have to stick to just one of them you muppet.
>>53720013
>solarized
>>53719469
>zsh
What is wrong with you?
>>53719971
I got confused because what does "local" even mean in this context? It's only one machine.
From reading a bit more apparently bins go there to be protected from being overwritten by system upgrades; so I guess that makes sense.
>>53719276
>>53719194
>>53719166
You can also have sources for both testing and unstable and have one pinned higher than the other so you can install mainly from one and just sometimes from the other. Also there is snapshots.debian.org with which you roll a package back to any old version.
>>53719404
Use something that breaks less so you will have less reason to procrastinate on YOUR HOMEWORK, slacker.
>>53720087
Personally, I put shit I compiles myself and scripts in > local > bin, since > bin is already used for stuff the system is placing there. Feels organized, Another way is using /opt/
>>53719701
source /etc/bash_completion and press tab a couple of times. That is about the best you can do in bash. Although there was some option to complet on just one tab press...
Is being a linux sysadmin fun guys? I'm learning all I can about linux just because I'm interested in it, but there must be something I can apply the knowledge to afterwards.
>>53719656
Yes it does, even if both drives are nulled out. (Unless you like manually bould the bitmap or some shit, which you won't do.)
why the fuck am I getting fucking 50kb/s download speeds with pacstrap?
I moved the mirror that is hosted at my university to the top of the the mirrorlist, but it is still much slower than it should be
the weird thing is the speeds fluctuate between packages from 50K/s all the way up to around maybe 10M/s
>>53720087
Back in the bad old days the local boot partition would mount /lib /bin etcetera off of a shared drive because hdds were small and expensive. Not much has changed in the fsh since then.
>>53720279
>Arch
>something wrong
It can't be!
>>53720256
If you know your shit and set up everything correctly you can pretty much forget that you have a job
If you're shit at it expect a lot of work
Never used linux outside four minutes in mint with a virtual box. Is it really a bad idea to jump right into Arch? If not, is there a guide to avoid ubuntu/mint trash and just learn what I need?
>>53720364
nope, it's definitely something I neglected to do
just don't know what
whats a reliable way to remote view my linux server and save the session? I'm getting a mess of tasks and programs running in different session and whatnot.
>>53720452
screen or tmux
>>53720545
I still n-need a desktop f-senpai
>>53720579
>f-senpai
I love the filter so much.
>>53720579
>linux server
>desktop
You're doing it wrong.
>>53720642
m8 i've learnt a lot the last few days and using it less and less but for now i want to keep it just in case.
>>53720013
>>53719971
Those are irrelevant now after the great /bin /usr/bin merge.
>>53720452
What are you running that require interaction?
On my server, I just configure the service and restart it.
Doesexportonly work with environment variables or can it also be pointed to deal with variables in a file?
>>53720452
you can view it with xpra. There has never been a good solution for saving a graphical session, too many problems with checkpoint/restore. If you mean just remembering what windows are where you can probably whip something up with xwininfo, wmctrl, xdotool etc.
>>53719971
This is really old.
While proc still exists, sys is a much cleaner and organized folder and new things should go there.
>>53720740
>can it also be pointed to deal with variables in a file
what?
>>53720693
you don't want to keep it "just in case". Get rid of it, use screen or tmux.
>>53720867
From what I understand export is used to temporarily change the value of a variable. I've only seen it used for env vars like PATH.
Can I use it to temporarily change the value of a variable in some config file for example?
>>53720279
anyone?
>>53720712
who did this?
Complete Noob here.
I've sucessfully installed Arch and I'm getting along fine with it. The last piece of the puzzle is setting up steam. The other games work perfect, it's only the source based games giving me trouble. (see pic)
I've already googled the shit out of this problem and updated the Nvidia drivers. Not sure what do you now.
Pic related
I have a GTX 750ti CPU: FX8350
>>53720900
no. "man export" would have told you this.
>>53720974$ man export
No manual entry for export$ export --help
bash: export: --: invalid option
export: usage: export [-fn] [name[=value] ...] or export -p
I tried.
>>53721001
the state of Linux these days... ;_;
>>53720933
pretty sure you need to install opengl
>>53721001
>>53721039
ishygddt
>>53721001
for shell builtins use eghelp export
export marks a variable as inheritable by child processes. If you set and export a variable then run a script that uses it the script will see the change you made but it is likely to override it unless it was written with your use case in mind. If that is the case ... just use a text editor!
>>53721121
'help' is not a command
Which size gpg key should i be using? Is 2048 still legit in this year of the gnu/linux desktop 2016? Or is everybody using 4096 in the post-snowden era? Pros and cons of using 4096 vs 2048? Can random skiddies crack 2048 these days or is it still considered secure?
>>53721285
There is no gain going from 2048 to 4096.You are actually hindering your self
>>53720933
Downgrade nvidia, nvidia-libgl, nvidia-utils and their lib32 counterparts to 361.18-2. You may have to also downgrade xorg-server to 1.18.0-4, if it fails to run at startup. Once you're done, add these packages to ignored packages in /etc/pacman.conf.
>>53721145
What shell are you using?
Can you boot in EFI mode from Virtual Box?
Because I'm trying to install grub with a GPT partition table, but I can't because of something with efivars. I can't enable efivars because I'm not in EFI mode.
How do I do that in VB?
>>53721688
there's a box you check in System settings "Enable EFI"
>>53721767
Yeah I found it just after I posted, I'm retarded.
Thankss.
>>53720279
guys fucking please
what do I need to do after moving the mirror that is closest to me to the top of the list?
do I need to do an update to refresh the mirrorlist?
>>53719056
This would never work for me because program dependency.
>>53721955
You should run pacman -Syy but that shouldn't affect the download speed.
Are you sure you're using the right mirrorlist in pacman.conf for every repo?
>>53720018
Bump?
>>53722019
>Are you sure you're using the right mirrorlist in pacman.conf for every repo?
I don't know? The guide never mentioned anything like that. All it told me to do was move the mirror closest to me to the top of the list before running pacstrap.
I can't check right now because I went ahead and ran pacman -Syyu and it's still progressing at the same abysmal download speeds.
The very first time I attempted the install 2 days ago, the speeds were fine. Any time after that they are terrible.
Hey /flt/
I finally successfully installed Ubuntu minimal on my T430, but I have one issue: my tty freezes up when waking from sleep. A coworker of mine said that it could be my kernel. I did use the targeted kernel during install. Will I have to reinstall my kernel or is their a simple walk around?
>Woah anon uses kali leenux he can hack your phone be carefuuul
There is this guy who uses kali linux but this is what the rest of the people think
I don't know shit about it so enlighten me what is this Distro really about?
I'm using Arch right now, but I'm deciding to move back to Debian (Unstable, Testing, or Stable + Backport). Although I'm intrested on Slackware as well as their Slackbuilds. How good is Slackware for daily desktop use? (considering there's Slackbuilds also used)
>>53721105
wait, why the fuck are kill and ulimit bash builtins? echo and umask also seem like they should be their own binaries to me, though I could more easily be convinced otherwise for them than ulimit and kill.
>>53722125
Debian is less of a headache.
>>53722119
It's just a Debian-based distro that comes packaged with pentesting tools.
>>53718710
Hey FLT, is it possible for me to run a Debian based distro with the proprietary AMD drivers for display alongside the proprietary nvidia drivers for a dedicated CUDA card?
>>53722087
>pacstrap
What are you even complaining about, you only have to do this once. See it as your punishment for not completing the install last time.
>>53722198
It's not just pacstrap. I am currently running pacman -Syuu and still getting the same speeds.
>See it as your punishment for not completing the install last time.
Is that the problem? I thought I read somewhere that if you use the same .ISO for more than one install it will fuck up the mirrors or something?
>>53722254
pacman -Syyu I mean
so for some reason my opensuse install is now missing its splash screen
whenever I start up my computer all I get is a screen that looks kinda like this_
I mean it's not all that important to have it, but it looks really unpolished without it. Does anybody know how to get my boot splash screen back?
>>53722119
Does he actually run Kali as his main OS? If so, then it means he's a fucking retard.
Kali is just Debian with a whole bunch of pentesting tool packages preinstalled, so it's used by white hat and black hat hackers alike as a live distro, so that you don't have a persistent image to worry about, but you don't have to reinstall everything you need to pentest every time you boot into it. But as a live distro made for pentetsing, what it has in offensive capabilities, it lacks in defensive capabilities such as, oh I don't know, being able to log in as a user other than root.
Because of its (relative) ease of use, it also has a reputation of being the distro of choice for skiddies, who think they're the shit because they can run metasploit.
>>53722254
>if you use the same .ISO for more than one install it will fuck up the mirrors or something?
No, your mirror is probably just slow right now. Just because it's physically close to you doesn't mean it has good bandwidth. Try another one.
You can also use the rankmirrors command to sort your mirrors by speed.
>>53722289
Of course he does, it's his main OS
People think he is some l337 hax0r
>>53722289
>oh I don't know, being able to log in as a user other than root.
u wot?
who the fuck would use this distro as their main OS?
What's the relationship between window system and desktop environment? I'm having a hard time grasping it because I'm stupid.
>>53722339
OK, but just to be clear, all I have to do to "try another one" is move it to the top of the list, right?
I don't have to run an update or anything before running pacstrap?
Because, as it says in the guide, all of the mirrors in the live version are uncommented.
Does it just take the first one it can regardless of it's speed?
>>53722339
Please. please, please all other tabs, and go to the archwiki beginners guide. All your problems are answered there in detail, in the order you should have done them.
Please leave this thread till you come back again
Why should i install leenux as a second OS? i'm on botnet10 but might just give it a try
if I have my terminal colors defined in my terminal dotfile, will they override the colors set by my shell theme?
>>53722390
Then yeah, he's worthy of total ridicule. Feel free to point and laugh at him.
>>53722424
Like I said, complete fucking retards. It's supposed to be run as a live distro while you get some work done, not to actually be installed on disk.
>>53722424
You can have other users on an installed system you dunce
>>53722440
DE is a package of software made up to make things display.
WM is just the bare needed software to look at a display,where you install what you want
>>53722476
I wonder whether Kali's devs deliberately left the installer in it as some kind of practical joke
>>53722445
Yes.
>>53722496
To expand, all a WM does is draw windows.
While yeah, a DE comes bundled with shit so you don't have to install it yourself, see bloatDE.
>>53722469
You shouldn't; you should install it as your primary OS. Duh.
>>53722530
They normally have a few packed programs to get you around before you customize it ,but they are easily replaced
>>53722496
That's not what a DE is
>>53722530
and that's not what a WM does.
>>53722479
Not as part of the default install you can't.
http://docs.kali.org/policy/kali-linux-root-user-policy
Sure, you could go in afterwards and add them manually, but you could also install Debian plus all the packages you need like a normal human being, which would have the advantage of not being a distro flooded with crapware and shit security defaults.
Note that there are other things that Kali does besides making root the only user that are awful for defensive security (many of them stemming from this policy, but distinct nonetheless), and I just like to use the whole "hax0rs run everything as r00t!" mentality as a flagship example of why using it as your main OS is dumb as shit.
>>53722496
>WM is just the bare needed software to look at a display,where you install what you want
Thanks for the help, but could you please be more specific here? Will a distro with a WM but not DE have any application user interfaces at all (like buttons and shit)?
>>53722469
bumping because why should i try it?
Like i said as my second OS
>>53722548
woah thanks m8 ;)
>>53722581
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DE#List_of_desktop_environmentsA desktop environment bundles together a variety of components to provide common graphical user interface elements such as icons, toolbars, wallpapers, and desktop widgets. Additionally, most desktop environments include a set of integrated applications and utilities. Most importantly, desktop environments provide their own window manager, which can however usually be replaced with another compatible one
>>53722603
You can choose the de/wm within your distro, packages can be installed on any distro,minus a few special snowflake cases.
>buttons
Yes
GNOME vs Kde will look different
and way different from a wm
>>53722625
That's not "a package of software made up to make things display".
It's not even a single package, not on any distro. I don't know what "make things display" is supposed to mean, but it certainly isn't responsible for displaying your GUI software on your screen.
>>53722734
>not knowing what groups(gnome-common) are
Stop trying to argue about sementics and just fucking accept what was posted,when it is correct, to helpo someone
Go make a stallman thread.
I want to try Linux as a second OS
Tell me /g/ why should i try linux?
I have windows 10 but i want to give it a try
>>53722161
ulimit and umask apply to spawned processes, which is like thi primary function of a shell. kill and echo and in /bin/ but are re-implimented by the shell so it doesn't have to spend time fork/execing.
>>53722195
yes
>>53722847
Do you want to try it or not? If you want to we dont need to give you reasons. If you dont want to try it then youll never be convinced anyway.
so fuck off you twat
>>53722847
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>53722847
>I have windows 10 but i want to give it a try
have some pasta
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T https://archive.is/OBGB1
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| Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
| https://archive.is/tW6fu
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| Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
| https://archive.is/2XIvX · https://archive.is/qLRZx
|
| Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
| location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
| even after related settings are turned off:
| https://archive.is/Zny36 · https://archive.is/sz1nt
| https://archive.is/g3QdQ · https://archive.is/ko469
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHA2s04Vtdc
|
| A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10:
|
| Keypoints: Windows 10 has a keylogger and uploads all your
| keystrokes every 5 minutes. Everything you type in Edge or
| Cortana is sent to Microsoft, along with any media files it
| finds. When webcam is enabled, 35MB of data goes to Microsoft.
| Even with Cortana disabled/uninstalled, Windows 10 sends all
| microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
| https://archive.is/QnTTA
| https://archive.is/eZKc9
|
| Windows 10 sends desktop screenshots straight to Microsoft:
| https://d2.maxfile.ro/rwspylwbwo.webm
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDeHqiydk4A
|
| Windows 10 scans for illegal/pirated software:
| https://archive.is/vhjwm
| https://archive.is/2jehd
|
| Microsoft proudly presents surveillance statistics:
| https://archive.is/MB0Yy
|
| > Over 82 billion photos viewed.
| > Gamers spent over 4 billion hours playing PC games.
| > 44.5 billion minutes/month spent in Microsoft Edge.
| > Over 2.5 billion questions asked of Cortana since launch.
| > Windows 10 now active on over 200 million devices.
|
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>>53722804
Groups are not packages. And this wasn't the only thing wrong with that explanation. I wouldn't say it was exactly helpful either, for example saying that the WM is all you need would be misleading, you would still at least need Xorg, graphic drivers and a display manager / xinit.
>>53722847
Give Ubuntu a try. It's so easy, you woun't realize that you're actually running gno+linax.
>>53722927
What is contained in groups?
HOLY FUCK LOOK AT THAT THERE ARE PACKAGES, MY GRACE THEE WITH THEY PACKAGES
LOL nigga gnome/kde/wtf else arent going to install xorg for you. You're really pulling at strings here
The anon asking SPECIFICALLY the difference betewwn a de enviornment vs a wm
Fuck off
>>53722893
>>53722922
Might as well make a bot to post this everytime by now
>>53722847
>fuck off
woah
Ok let's reword this WHAT distro should i try? I will use it to develop, maybe modify docs browse web and other stuff, the thing is that i want a distro that will bring the most advantages even if is not beginner friendly
what do you recommend me /g/
does creating an mdadm array always take 8+ hours?
This raid10 8tb volume has taken over 24h to sync before I could even use it.
>>53722985
> the difference betewwn a de enviornment vs a wm
And if you're not able to explain it, it might be better not to respond at all.
>>53719056
I've convinced my sister to install Linux on her future thinkpad.
>>53722728
That's pretty neat.
>>53723026
It was clearly explained and then expanded upon.
>>53722997
>>Might as well make a bot to post this everytime by now
A bot was already written 10 years back when 4chan didn't even have captchas, newfriend.
>>53722997
Oh so we didnt have to convince you to try linux after all? what a shock
As for what to try, any of:
xubuntu, ubuntu, mint, supposedly openSUSE but I haven't tried it/ Remember that the differences between distros as far as development goes is very minimal - it's all about the libraries and so on which aren't going to change. imo everyone here hypes up the differences between distros, most of them are virtually identical. Just pick one and use it. Dont bother with arch or gentoo, a similar effect can be had with much better stability by using a debian netinstall and building up from there.
>>53723059
....
What?
Either way
What about (The most i read about)
>Arch
>Gentoo
>Ubunto
What should i try i really don't know much about them like i said i want one that will bring me the most advantages, i will develop on them, modify docs video, browse web and other stuff
>>53722997
>Might as well make a bot to post this everytime by now
Try posting that pasta with a picture of stallman and enjoy your auto permaban.
>>53723134
You can get to the web browsing and the doc modiying quicker with Ubuntu. You have less to set up at the start.
>>53723134
install Ubuntu and shut up already
>>53723134
>>53723155
And doc making, video editing, and development will be the same on all of them. No need to waste your life with meme distros, just use the tool that works
>>53723134
http://j.vyrd.net/j/1416.htm
>>53723038
joke's on you anon, she has no intention of getting a thinkpad so it's meaningless to agree to install linux on it when she gets one
>>53723162
>xD
>>53723155
>>53723165
Alright thanks i'll give it a try
>>53722893
alias linux='gnu\/linux'
>>53723134
opensuse and fedora are also okay
really, anything works.
if you want to waste countless hours tuning everything go for gentoo or arch.
if you want to be fucked in the ass by amazon, go for ubuntu
if you want something that just werks, go for almost anything else.
>>53723234
Actually i'm interested in the countless of hours to tune it but what did you mean by this
>fucked in the ass by amazon
Guys, is ClamAV a good antivirus?
I need to check an external HDD for malware that I know is infected, because it'll be plugged into a Windows machine and I don't want to spread digital STD's.
>>53723234
The amazon thing isnt true any more is it? That was in Unity, subsequently removed I thought
>>53723273
I hear clamav signatures aren't as good as the stuff on windows, but it's still the best option.
>>53723278
it might not be. Maybe ubuntu is okay now. I'm not taking another look at it either way, because I never really liked it anyway.
>>53723270
>interested in the countless of hours to tune
I recommend arch if you want to make your distro your hobby.
Amazon and ubuntu used to be a thing, but apparently they broke up and nobody told me.
>>53723273
get a craptop and install windows, and then pick a windows AV
I doubt many linux antivirus programs look for windows signatures.
I want to replace ubuntu with kubuntu, unity is a shit. is there a simple way to change over entirely?
>>53723273
clamav sucks ass anon, if you're comfortable with the command line then go with f-secure
>>53723370
meh, there are plenty of bootabl avs' out there made by people who make regular avs'
>>53723387
Depending on the state of your backups and whether you have a separate /home and whether you need to compile a load of your own stuff, i would just reinstall
>>53723387sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
go out for a walk while it installs
So I am using this ffmpeg command to convert multiple gif files to webm:for f in *.gif; do ffmpeg -i "$f" -c:v libvpx -crf 4 -b:v 8000k "$f.webm"; done
Afterwards, I get a file with two extensions. It still works as a .webm, but it has .gif before it. How do I stop this?
>>53723403
Note that if you do this, you will have a bunch of redundant programs. If this bothers you, then just install Kubuntu over your Ubuntu install. If you have a dedicated /home partition, everything should just work fine if you fresh install WITHOUT repartitioning the drive or wiping the /home partition. If you don't have /home on a separate partition, shit nigga what are you doing
>>53723406
"${f%.gif}.webm" instead of "$f.webm"
>>53723442
another option is to just install kde himself and tweak it to how he likes it, also man if you're looking at kde I'd recommend checking out Kaos
>>53723468
I assumed this was out of the question, since they said "kubuntu" not "kde"
>>53723020
You can use it while it is syncing dipshit.
>>53723457
Roger that. Thanks.
2038, year of the linux death
>update mono
>get a whole bunch of text and "44 new root certificates were added to your trust store"
am i being snafu'd?
>>53723566
yup
>>53723566
I got that too. Except it said 44 existed already, now 45 total I thought.
>>53723557
didn't linux already move to 64 bit unix time?
>>53723557
>>53723402
>>53723403
>>53723442
>>53723468
thanks fellas, I have played around with kde today but there was a few issues, a fresh installation sounds like the best way to go.
What is the best way of going about installing a font on debian whose file I already have? Meaning I don't have to download it
I'm on Debian testing and reading the posts above made me doubt my choices.
Sell me on Debian Unstable. Are the probabilities of getting my shit fucked up high, or is it pretty much better in every possible way to testing? Obviously going back to stable isn't really an option, so it's either stay at testing or go up.
Could anyone give me a reason to NOT separate my partitions?
For example: Separate /home/ partition, /etc/ partition and the like.
>>53723761
The only three partitions worth having are / , /home/, and swap. The rest is superfluous, specially if on the same drive.
>>53723774
But why wouldn't you separate them if you have the option, aside from the fact that it might look a tad messy?
>>53723782
The question really isn't why not, rather 'why'.
You don't gain anything by separating any other than the three I mentioned here >>53723761
I mean sure you can go ahead and do it, but why?
>>53723761
You cannot run out of space on one partition while others still have some free.
You don't waste space for partitions that would only take up a few MB like /etc.
All directories that are required for boot are available at boot time.
Stuff like that.
>>53723738
You can stick it in ~/.fonts/ if it's just for the user
>>53723789
To be completely honest, I don't know.
Some say just use a root partition, some say use root and home, some say separate everything from etc to var. Swap included, of course. So I'm wondering what i should do in the future.
>>53723759
There are trade offs, like everything else. On Unstable, your system *will* break at some point, though not so badly you can't fix it (as long as you can into basic Linux). On Testing, you will have a system slightly more out of date, and slightly more stable. The biggest advantage of Unstable over Testing is that security updates get into Unstable much more quickly.
>>53723774
>no /boot
swap is the one not worth having desu
I personally don't have a separate /home partition but totally see a reason to do so, I just didn't want to be stuck with too little space on either / or /home and excess on the other.
>>53723825
Why would you specify /boot if setting up / already does it for you
>>53723841
Because then you can run / as btrfs, which afaik cannot be used to boot from, at least for legacy bios.
>>53723825
Beat me to it, yeah you should have a /boot partition.
/home makes installing a different distro much, much easier.
>>53723759
Breakages are rare, as long as you're somewhat careful and attentive and don't blindly let apt fuck your ass hole you will be fine. Ubuntu is based on Unstable if that tells you anything. If you're not comfortable at the command-line and with linux in general and don't need newer packages I'd say you're better off sticking with a more stable version.
>>53723824
By my system breaking, do you mean just solving some dependencies or do you mean legit breaking that needs to be salvaged through a live USB or whatever?
>>53723841
So many reasons. Top two being
1. allows full disk encryption, since you can boot without mounting /
2. so you can have a non-journaling, legacy file system like ext2 as your /boot while keeping everything else on whatever you want (etx4, btrfs, zfs, etc.)
>>53723857
Usually the former, but if you're unlucky, the latter. And mind you, this breakage isn't a regular occurrence, but it does happen.
best browser?
>>53723959
Firefox
>>53723959
Pale Meme desu.
Anyone have that image to remove the botnets from firefox's config?
>>53723959
chromium
>>53723557
>Date:1901-12-13
Unix time starts from 1970, nigger
>>53723789
meh, it makes it easier to distrohop without having to backup and restore media files and shit if you put /home on a separate partition
>>53723782
Because if one of them gets full up (like fucking /var) while you have tons of space on /home you will have a hell of a time shuffling shit around to get some free space.
>>53724096
Look at the picture again.
ALERT
ALERT
ALERT
There is a massive dump of open source games for Linux in the indie games thread right now!
>>>/vg/136546312
>>53724183
Games? Indie games? What are we children?
>2:50am
>just fucked my ubuntu up
All nighter it is senpaitachi
>>53724268
How?
How can I make a cursor like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4qK1X5psa8
What did he use? I really like the effect of that glow - I would want it with my cursor :(
>>53724228
>>53724268
go to sleep samefag
>>53724310
pretty sure is compiz
>>53724312
>>53724306
fucked around with a few desktop environments and then shit stopped working, i started following a few guides to fix it. Then started getting package errors and then decided to ditch it and start again.
>>53724312
no senpai
>>53724352
Good idea. Hope youre /home is separate! For times such as this I have a script I can run as root which will install all the stuff I need, would recommend making one yourself
>>53724396
Same here. Just have asudo apt-get install a-bunch-of-fucking-software -y
Did you add anything special to yours?
>>53724396
There was nothing there yet except a few applications and other shit I fucked around with. Everything else is on different hard drives that weren't hooked up.
Yeah I was thinking about that, found a package called aptik that backs your programs up for you. I have no fucking idea about scripting, yet.
i've been using ubuntu for a little while now, and i think i'd like to try fedora. are there any big differences?
>>53724445
Prepare to do morbid amounts of tipping
>>53724440
No, that's about it. Start with apt-get update and finish with apt-get upgrade apt-get autoremove though. Since my config files are in /home no need to worry about them, but in case of a completely fresh install I also have a version which cats some stuff to .bashrc
