>lightweight
>premium feel with the metal
>no play in the nib with fixed sleeve
>cheap as fuck
I don't understand why we fuck around with all these other shits or even want to pay an extraordinary amount to get your rotring more travel friendly by retractability, the zebra is simply too cheap to even care if you drop it and break the nib.
>>53698803
zebra makes a pretty good pen as well
>>53699029
Can you recommend it over the promecha currently on massdrop?
>>53698803
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RedCircle masterrace
>>53700644
Which one? I have a 500
And it's remarkably good.
>>53700644
Graphgear 1000 is horrible weight and tip far away from grip.
>>53700694
Aren't they the fake rOtrings?
It's funny because plastic is objectively better because it's more light-weight, and thinner for easier grasping.
I like the graphgear 500 because I don't feel like pressing down as much with my own muscles
>>53700798
I prefer the Pentel P205 and P203 because I can hold them further down due to their slimness and taper. I find this allows he more control than I get with others like the 500
>>53700735
Rotring is Chinese crap nowadays too, so they are exactly the same with a different branding
>>53700925
I bought a Tikky and it was awful. I went straight back to my p205
>using a pencil
>2016
shiggy
>>53701184
I have a Parker 51 but it needs cleaning as it was my Grandfather's
>>53698803
>no play in the nib with fixed sleeve
My Rotring Rapid Pro has no play in the nib, and it's a sliding sleeve.
>Why do you ask for anything more in a pencil?
Because I'm of the mind that things I put in my pockets shouldn't damage my pockets.
>the zebra is simply too cheap to even care if you drop it and break the nib
I treasure even my cheap possessions. I would sooner part with my PC than my PS2. Owning a pencil with a non-retractable sleeve would play on my mind.
>>53700871
I used that for a while for some drafting. It was nice, but the grip fucked with my wrist muscles
>>53699029
agreed
>>53701484
I almost bought a rapid pro but got the precision instead, quality pencil but too heavy for me.
Amazon would probably take a return but I just returned a 600 so I don't want to push it.
Who here /stronggrip/
>>53701927
The rapid pro is really nice, but there's a few problems with it I've noticed in the months I've had it.
>barrel corners are rounded off
It rolls on desks.
>pocket clip secured to a uniformly cylindrical area
It's on tight, but mechanically-speaking this is the worst design, it's the quickest to allow play.
>sleeve retraction requires pressuring the sleeve while releasing the push-button
Bad for reasons too obvious to state.
I'm a mechanical engineer, shit like that drives me nuts. Not because they're huge problems, but because they were all entirely avoidable (with the possible exception of the sleeve mechanism) design flaws.
The Precision looks really nice, might get one and keep the Rotring as a backup.
>>53702343
Yeah you might worry about the weight but this guy actually puts the weight as plus.
http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/255288-twsbi-precision-mechanical-pencil-fixed-sleeve-05mm/
Why do I never hear of this pencil on /g/?
>>53702919
What a beauty! How much would one of these set me back?
>>53703129
25 bucks
t. why I got a precision over an 800
Also absolutely no play in the nib for retractable version
>>53698803
>0.5
Shit tier
>>53703229
Do you really use .3?
.5 is fine famalam.
>>53703159
Found one for £27, I'm not sure if it's worth upgrading; my p205 has served me well for over a year.
>>53703253
>he doesn't use 0.3
>>53703347
Which .3 should I use?
>>53698803
they're cheap and sturdy
since it weighs literally nothing and I don't have to retract the tip, I end up using it more often than my fancy rotrings and graphgears
>>53699029
Zebra makes exclusively garbage
rate
>>53703343
Do you really need an english dictionary everywhere you go?
I use to have a mechanical pencil that held at least 20 pieces of lead at once. I miss that thing and can't seem to find anything like it.
Anyone know of anything similar?
>>53703455
I have a 0.5mm Tikky and i really don't like it. The colour is interesting though.
>>53698803
Why would I buy a pencil? I can find one for free off the floor.
>>53703553
live in ignorance don't worry about it close this thread
>>53703457
>>53703457
It was only so I could show the g-shock as the strap is unable to be straightened out.
> here are some of my other mechanicals
>>53703566
>plastic
ew
>>53703638
I know what you mean. I ordered a Graphgear 1000 from Japan but it never came. Although the lightless if the p205 is nice, plus it is good quality plastic.
![21557[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wBJNlSo.jpg "21557[1].jpg")
if your pencil comes in a pack, it's shit
>lamy safari
this is the best pencil
>rotring
shit ergonomics and stupid bending tip
>>53698803
Best thing about OP's is the lead is absolutely rock fucking solid with ZERO movement
Loads of other mechanical pencils I have tried will feel a bit loose
>>53703746
Looks like a kindergarten pencil to me
>>53703746
What's bad about the zebra?
>>53698803
>i'm fucking left handed kill me now
>>53703746
>shit ergonomics
They're knurled cylinders, you're retarded if you think that's a bad design. The Lamy Safari has good ergonomics if you write a certain way, if you don't write the way Lamy wants you to write, it has bad ergonomics.
>bending tip
What are you talking about? Do you mean that they have 4mm lead sleeves? Is that what you mean by "bending tip"? Well mine must be defective, because it doesn't bend. It very likely moves less than yours.
>>53704200
rotring is also 80 bucks
>>53704281
Premium price for a premium tool.
>should last a life time with the proper care
>>53704281
Rotring is a brand, not a pencil.
And a Rotring 800+, which I think you're referring to, is a world away from a Lamy Safari. It's just a far superior pencil, in every way.
>>53704371
Got my precision instead and sort of regret it, even down to the grip being slightly less knurled.
>>53704371
It's over priced trash. I can get a drafting pencil that would just as well for like $10, and it will last just as long with proper care. I have a 0.3 mm Koh-i-noor rapidomatic that is over a decade old and still works perfectly.
>>53704378
I don't think I could use a heavy full metal pencil for long periods of writing. I prefer light plastic
>>53698803
meme pen is good pen
>>53704468
Could you post a pic? I can't find any on the UK Amazon
Mine looks just like this one.
>>53704577
How do you find 0.3mm lead? My 0.3 P203 arrived along with 2b lead. Do you use HB or what in it?
>>53704468
>I have a 0.3 mm Koh-i-noor rapidomatic
Oh, you're one of those.
I'm not interested in the circle-jerk. I wish you lot, as well as audiofools, would just fuck off to a desert island where nobody has to hear from you.
And I sort of doubt you have a rapidomatic, you might, but minutes ago you were referring to "rotring" as if it was a single pencil. In fact, it's hard to tell what exactly you were trying to say, because you can barely get out a coherent thought.
You're the first illiterate pencil enthusiast I've heard of, well done.
>>53704861
>not him
Christ they're writing tools; no need to get so worked up
>>53698803
Ah but does it write upside down?
>>53704861
The fuck are you talking about? It's a $10 to $10 pencil. I was saying that it performs just as well, for just as long but for 1/5 the cost.
I was referring to the brand as over-priced, you stupid shit.
>And I sort of doubt you have a rapidomatic, you might
There are some on ebay right now for like $15. How fucking poor are you?
>>53703566
MarsMicro .5 masterace
>>53704483
best calculator ever made.
Was shocked when I saw that us uni fags are still messing with shit-tier TI's
>>53698803
cheap great stuff, I've never had one break/jam (before losing them).
the plastic grip is not very comfortable though
>>53705044
they're the cheapest calculators you can buy in the US at $14.
TI has a stranglehold on the education market simply because teachers and students are taught to use only TI and exactly 4 TI models are the only calculators allowed on SAT/ACT testing.
>>53704937
I was being civil until that prick started shitting on anything he didn't personally own.
>>53705013
>I was referring to the brand as over-priced, you stupid shit.
Nah, you were being a cunt for the sake of being a cunt.
>There are some on ebay right now for like $15. How fucking poor are you?
The image you pulled is from an ebay auction currently at $15, with 2 days to go.
Japanese-made rapidomatics are known collectibles. There is ONE currently for sale on ebay, it will sell for more than $15.
>>53705018
Kek
> mine broke
pretty comfy
>>53705288
Looks too heavy desu
>>53705288
Wish I had gotten this one, and the pens are on massdrop too now
>>53705103
Dude, the Chinese ones aren't even that bad. Cool your shit, and stop throwing a tantrum because you spent too much for a shitty pencil.
>>53705102
100% i would have failed my studies with imperial units and TI.
Was the only one in class who actually read the manual of the 991 plus.
People thought I was some sort of wizard as I did matrix calculations with it.
Can you recommend me a nice ink cartridge for my zebra 301?
>stock 0.7mm oil ink cartridge writes so thin and light
>gel 0.7mm version writes very nice, but gel ink isn't for any surface
I was going to buy a 1.4mm ink cartridge but I don't know if it's worth bothering
I love this pen, in my own opinion I think its the best looking rolling-ball pen ever designed, light, perfect size, excellent built quality and cheap, it's just too bad a 25 cent bic pen writes way better
>>53701962
Best taste
>>53705384
Sure thing man, my £17 Rapid Pro is really giving me buyer's remorse.
>>53705781
>£17
Sorry, my bad. I thought we were talking about real money. If you got that shit for monopoly money then good on you.
what more could you ask for?
>>53705831
>good grip
>durability
>strong clip
>weight
>better colour
>>53698803
/g/ - Pencil Discussion Board
>>53705882
>good grip
so you have soft, clammy hands with no grip strength? Europoor or woman?
>better colour
I got my answer. Better start deadlifting, chap?
The knurling on the bar will do wonders.
>>53705926
It's all important mane.
When I'm using the damned things all day they really fucking matter.
I don't know if this is the right thread or even the right board, but I have been looking at >premium writing utensils with a bit of interest for a while now and I have a few questions.
Do you guys use cursive or print? Is it even possible to correctly write in print with a fountain pen?
Is a fountain pen something that improves your handwriting or something that you need to improve your writing to use?
>>53699029
not fond of zebra pens.
they're cheap as fuck so whatever.
people are always asking me for pens so i just carry cheap bic garbage or 'free' click pens.
every time i go shopping i consider buying pens. i look at them for like a minute or two. and then remember i'll have to be a liar every fucking day at work when someone asks me if i have a pen, or i'll have to stalk them like a bloodhound to get it back.
shame i can't enjoy a pilot precise v5 everyday at work.
>>53700501
>.03 lead
Why so thin?
>>53698803
Been using this and the pen varient for years, love em.
>>53698803
Zebra pens make good makeshift pipes
I just stick to a biro, why reinvent a classic.
>>53708089
Just got it for the precision
superior pencil coming through
Do they make those in .7
this is /g/
and this is pencil
>>53701184
Mechanical pencils are better for technical drawing. Right tool for the right job.
>>53709129
TRIGGERED
>>53699029
can confirm, god tier pen
>>53710598
Why? A couple of scribbles and then they just work. What the fuck is your problem? Not techy enough for you?
>>53701184
eey lamybro. Might have to get the alstar in graphite that looks good. I have it in silver atm.
>>53703516
rotrings pencils do this
>>53704343
>falling for the apple of mechanical pencils
>>53711867
>>53711867
I don't even own a rOtring, my pencil of choice is either the p205 or p203. Maybe even the Graphgear 500. Quite the opposite of what you are describing.
rate me
>>53712566
What pen is on the left/10
Rate me lads.
>>53712612
nah, plastic chink
only good one at the center
>>53698803
Want to ask for something magical?
A pen that change change it's hardness from 8H to 8B with a digital key.
>>53712733
The staedtler?
>>53711925
P205 master race.
anyone know why my P205 is always breaking my lead inside the pencil
>>53711016
I've only recently started noticing, but I've found that different pens feel very different when writing. I prefer the more smoother writing and go out of my way to find pens that don't drag across the paper and vibrate through the pen.
>>53712810
Only the best use the best
>>53712911
Is the end on tightly? If you keep lead stored in the end it may break the lead
>>53698803
>Why do you ask for anything more in a pencil?
Why use that when I have a pen? Do you honestly make mistakes? It's like you write without thinking things through.
>>53704483
What's a good pocket knife you recommend? I'm thinking of getting this one, is it cashmoney?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MTECH-USA-Folding-TACTICAL-RESCUE-Knife-Seatbelt-Cutter-Glass-Breaker-/291636578795?hash=item43e6e509eb:g:sXMAAOSwcBhWarXt
>>53701184
lamys have super scratchy nibs
>>53713188
Opinel number 6 upwards
What is this shit
Who pays $80 for a pencil
>>53712635
id keyring senpai
Zebra Clip On Multi.
Has a pencil with 3 pen colors. Works well for taking notes.
>>53713477
It's mostly a novelty item.
>>53713435
BASED
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Thank you, seriously.
>>53713589
You're welcome,here are my two carbon 6's
>Top one I grew up with
>I bought the bottom last year
>not just using this and impress your friends
>>53713128
Thanks, I'll see if it helps.
I always break leads thinner than 0.9mm. But 0.5mm pens kick ass.
>>53713589
I prefer Spyderco, the thumb hole is the single best design feature in pocket knives.
>>53714377
I bought a 0.3 but I'm not too sure about it
We need some pen spinning in this thread.
>>53705288
Had one, sent it back same day. What you get in features you pay with shit tier build quality.
>>53705595
but too bad it cant do cmpl matrix
>>53708089
have you seen kanji? how small they write it? there is a reason they have a auto adjusting pencil that will effectively halve the size of leads
>>53698803
no better place to ask.
i got an art marker set a while back, i fucking love making really thin lines and i don't always want to break out the crow quill nib dip pen.
now how this relates to pencils.
for writing i vastly prefer my mechanical pencil.
however, i have a micron 005 marker, the thing is somewhere between .1 and .25mm
to make a long story short, i fucking love writing small, and this marker lets me write as small as i can, i could get a .3mm pencil, but most of the time i write i am required to use a pen...
are there any bulk ways to buy a really really thin marker pen for cheap?
i have considered a rapidograph, but needing to write at a 90 degree angle and how ink is fed through it doesn't appeal to me at all.
