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Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation
>For the newfags that keep replying to the "Belgian shitposter"
http://pastebin.com/rhEPFtRj
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
Previous Thread: >>53681265
VE Monk $5
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Venture-Electronic-VE-MONK-earbud-earphone/32417311324.html
headfi is cumming all over this. So, meme or not?
>>53692771
it's 8 bucks
that's like a trip to mcdonalds
get them & review them here
Still cant decide if i shoild go with xb950's.. listened to them at thr store, sounded amazing, yesterday lostened to them at friend's and they sounded too bassy. I love bass but never thought i would say its too bassy. I have hd449's and i really like them, just if they could have more bass and a bit more volume. Any suggestions around 100€?
Hey im looking for advice for purchasing headphones.. I've been reading up so much on this bit everyone seems to have different opinions everywhere and its so confusing.
Im listening to metal only. Mostly melodeath and doom. So id like them to be well suited for those genres. Also I'd prefer open backed because im only gonna listen at home so noise is not a problem. Id like them to have great instrument separation so i can hear every individual instrument.
Right now i have sennheiser hd215 and i hate them. Metal sounds like one big blob of shit, bass guitar is inaudible, drums have no impact to them whatsoever and i generally find that listening on my 5 dollar earbuds is way more enjoyable. From my research so far i think that hd 600 would be a great choice.. But they also require a dac.. My budget for this would be around 300 euro's. Can I find something at this price which would work well without a dac (i would buy one later) or maybe i can get some decent heasphobe AND dac already at this price? Other headphones ive looked alot into are dt pro 770, fidelio x2 and grado sr325e but i just can't decide. Also I'm living in a 3rd world shithole so most of these will be super hard to get my hands on.
>>53693120
Havent read full post but
MDR-7506
>>53693150
they are closed design though. My current hd 215's are closed and there is something about it that makes me feel super weird when I put them on. Something about isolating all the sound makes me feel nervous and claustrophobic lol Its just uncomfortable. Like I know im sitting in my room but I still to have awareness around me or hear someone talk. I dont know, I just want open back because noise really is not a problem in my case, and I heard they generally sound better.
>I've been reading up so much on this bit everyone seems to have different opinions everywhere and its so confusing.
Yes, because like art, audio is a subjective thing. People have different preferences.
I don't know price correlation well because Australia, so bear with some of the suggestions.
>HD600
May find it "boring" because of it's rolled off bass which is not desired for metal. Needs an amp. Alternatively, try looking at the 650.
>DT770
Closed, v-shaped - which is good for metal. Depends on what version, may need an amp.
>X2
Open, bassy and may be called v-shaped. Does not need an amp.
>Grado anything
No.
>DT990
BASS MONSTER, TREBLE. Might find it too grating but it's basically an open version of the 770. Not really recommended, just putting it out there.
>HP50
Closed, "warm", easy to listen to for extended periods of time if that's your style.
DAC is dependent on your mobo, the general go to is E10k.
Regardless, I would recommend the X2.
>>53693258
>>53693120
Whoops.
>>53693258
Thanks, i will look into the x2 some more!
>>53693150
reread his post, you fucked up, he wants bass
>>53693120
7xx or 650
if you REALLY want to feel the bass, get dt990
dac is not an amp, you will need an amp with these
770 is closed
grados are a trebleblasting meme
>>53693258
Btw I remember watching some review on the fidelio x2's, and the guy was saying you need to set up something called Crosssfade (or something like that) to make them sound as good as possible, but he was using foobar to set it up i think. What if im using spotify premium as my source? How can I go about doing this or is it just a meme?
>>53693120
Get yourself either a K702 or a DT880 250 ohm + Fiio E10K and you'll stay below 300€ and have the greatest combo for basically any kind of music. They have the best instruments' separation among headphones belonging to their price range.
X2 is bassy and it has an unbalanced sound, it can work well without an amp but its midbass is so exaggerated it literally overshadows both sub-bass and mids. A metal music listener shouldn't want this probably. X2 costs more than both DT880 and K702 and it's not worthy at all imo.
HD600 costs more than the K702 and the DT880 250 ohm, sometimes it costs even well beyond 300€,it needs an amp and it's not better than them. You stated that instruments' separation is a must for you, then I couldn't recommend the HD600 at any rate.
>>53693335
You don't absolutely need crossfeed but I've been using it for all my headphones and it just makes things sound more natural. I don't use spotify so I wouldn't know but it's just foobar2000 with Meier Crossfeed plugin. I generally always set it to level 2.
Any recommendations for a new closed headphone design?
Should I get a new 'gaming headset' or just get some type of clip on separate microphone?
>>53693426
Any headphone with a 3.5mm jack plus V Moda Boom Pro.
>>53693447
I'll look into that, thanks. Didn't know something like that existed until now.
So I found those guys for 110€, much more than from that one black friday sale, but such is life. Are they worth that price?
Do you guys talk about IEMs here
>>53693518
Everything but CIEMs.
HD280pro for casual listening. Yay or nay?
Or are they too flat?
>>53693502
If they're new and if they cost less than HD558 and SHP9500 where you're living, then 110eur for them is a good price, but beware of fakes.
Should I get DT 990 pro 250 + E10k Olympus2? I'm going to use it with pc, so how do I connect amp to pc, with usb? And if get preamp like vivanco pa 115 will it be possible to use this stuff with turntable? Total noob here.
>>53693668
Do you like massive amounts of bass and extremely piercing highs?
Should I?
What replacement pads should I get for my MSR7 without sacrificing the signature too much? I find the ones on them just a little bit small.
>>53693740
I was thinking of the "Hifiman Focus Pads", looks large and soft. Can anyone vouch for them?
>>53693703
>the very last one
yes
>>53693703
if you're a virgin child that still needs a closed headphone because he doesn't want his parents to hear what he's listening to, yes sure, why not?
>Budget
Cheap as possible. Hard budget of 50$us.
>Location
US
>Source
Scarlett 2i4, 1/4 input
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I work in 1 hour spurts, comfort is not a big issue, would trade comfort for a good price
>Preferred tonal balance
Flat, would like to check my own recordings and mixes with it
>>53692695
>Budget
100$
>Location
Middle EU
>Source
mostly phone
>Preferred type of headphone
on ear
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
max possible
>Preferred tonal balance
pic related
>Preferred music
all kinds
>Past headphones
Sennheiser MX-170
AKG K512
>>53693840
Fugg forgot to mention Id really prefer something with a removable cable
sup
Let's play a cute game /hpg/. Identify these headphones.
>>53693843
Aren't you supposed to use negative, not positive with equalizers?
>>53693857
>50$us
good luck
go look for used headphones and hope they aren't awful (who's going to be taking good care of $150 headphones after all?)
>>53693870
How many bumps on the piston 3s volume control? Where'd you buy them from?
>>53693923
Ideally, yes. Less distortion that way.
>>53693935
3 buttons
volume actually works with my htc one m9 but mileage may vary by device as the Samsung stock buds volume only works on Samsung devices iirc.....also the volume has input lag, at least on my device
i got them off amazon...~$26 with shipping and California sales tax (8%)
also if you daily a more mellow headphone (say my x2's for example) and don't switch between a lot of headphones, you will feel a huge presence of sibilance for like the first half hour of listening to the piston 3's but then it becomes far more enjoyable tho do not expect any Soundstage whatsoever....not even the slightest bit
>>53693857
>>53693840
can't think of anything mate
maybe get th02
>>53693843
takstar pro 80
>>53694087
>>53693935
seller was "xiaomi professional store"....hopefully they were legit
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B013N5VS5Y/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_ODN9wbHANMB7P
>>53693345
What do you think about dt 880 pro 250 ohm and smsl 793ii dac/amp?
>>53694200
It works.
Headphones.
The Beyerdynamic T5Ps are rad as all fuck. Kinda make me want to try the T1s. And the DT1770s...
Just recently into all this headphone and sound bs. Question, does it matter from were do you play your music to headphones? If flac song is played on smartphone and same on laptop, would there be difference?
>>53690784
How? I mean, do you keep it zipped all the time? That's not bad for the cable?
>>53694219
Due to my location i would have much easier time getting the 990 premiun 250 ohms, 880 is just not available anywhere locally for me and i would have to pay customs etc, so what do you think about those?
>>53694391
DT990 are bass monsters, they might be even worse than Fidelio X2.
>>53694409
Ok.. Well i guess 880s with shipping might still be cheaper thab 990 tho
>>53694442
if you can get DT880 250 ohm + smsl with shipping fees below 300euro, it's a very good deal imo.
>>53694456
I believe i can get those plus a spdif cable for around 280 euro. Sounds good
Which ones you guys would recommend from Sennheisers HD4XX lineup ? Which ones have most bass?
>>53693518
Yes.
>>53693540
They aren't that flat. 280 Pros have quite a bit of bass and a single treble peak. They clamp a lot which might be uncomfortable for some. There's no such thing as "too flat".
>>53693893
Measurements would be more interesting but upper one is K702 and bottom one is HD 600.
>>53694248
>The Beyerdynamic T5Ps are rad as all fuck
Radically low-fi? Radically overpriced?
>>53694409
They aren't that bassy imo, just very V-shaped. Treble is much more pronounced than the bass on them making them sound harsh to my ears. Recessed midrange is a proper way to describe their signature. They sound nice on low volume, not nice when driven loud.
>>53694643
They are all more or less bassy. HD 419 is fairly extreme with the bass.
>>53694663
You seems to know stuff so ill ask you. I am listening to 449's now and love them, clarity is extreme but it lacks bass. What would you recommend ? I would want same headphones as 449 but with more bass
>>53694697
If you find the clarity on the HD 449s extreme and want more bass, something like Fidelio X2 could suit you well. That is, if you can live with open back headphones. For closed back there are plenty of bassy options.
>>53694663
>Radically low-fi? Radically overpriced?
In what world could they possibly be considered low-fi?
I'd also argue that they're a fantastic value, considering they put up top-tier quality, without the need for amping.
>>53694736
Nah i would want closed. Its extremely clear for me, dont need anything clearer ( not audiophile) . Fidelio are too expensive. Yea i know there are a lot of options.. i wanted xb950's but afraid they might sound too bassy. Anything you could recommend around 100€?
Thanks for helping btw, really appreciate
>>53693923
i use that on pc 5.1
on phone i cant control the eq :( its stuck on base levels
>>53694858
Get a app.
Use negative values.
>>53694356
Yes, the digital to analogue converter (DAC) is different in different devices. In terms of the file, no, it's not like it magically turns into another file and has a different sound.
I'm bumping it for if someone feels like telling it. My english sucks, sorry.
>>53689561
>>53694623
Yes
>>53694794
>In what world could they possibly be considered low-fi?
In the sensible non-audiophile world. Their response is all over the place and distortion is high just like on all "Tesla" Beyers. 800 € is far from fantastic value, especially given how they perform.
>>53694802
Gets harder with that budget. There are plenty of bassy headphones still but to achieve what you want with more bass it gets a bit tricky. Creative Aurvana Live could do it. Otherwise I suggest learning to use an equalizer to achieve what you want on the pair of headphones you have now.
>>53693923
Idea in digital domain is to never exceed the full scale volume. It doesn't matter if you use positive gain on some bands if you counter it with the preamplifier setting of equal amount of negative gain.
>>53693947
You only run into distortion if you exceed digital gain enough for the audio content to clip on at the output. With loudly mastered music this can be an issue with even modest amounts of positive gain added.
>>53694356
There are differences in output quality of headphone jacks. Generally they tend to perform really well in modern electronics but there are exceptions. This is also dependent on the headphones you use. Some types could be very sensitive(many in-ears) causing electrical noise to be very audible, some might have low impedance and an impedance swing making them sound different from different outputs(HD 558), some might be both(SE535), some might be extremely current hungry and cause the amplifier to distort(HE-6). Whether the differences are audible is another matter and audio codecs are in another domain - irrelevant to the output quality and always present in the signal regardless of the device you use to play your music from.
>>53694976
Too bad we cant make bank transactions in europe until 29th.. Thats so annoying.
>>53695103
>Their response is all over the place
It's hardly "all over the place". They're quite well-rounded, though mids are slightly forward compared to more neutral headphones.
On the used market they're like $500-600, which really is a good deal considering they go toe-to-toe with HD800/LCD-2/HE500 and the like without amping.
>>53695181
Headroom compensation curve and 1/3th octave smoothing are poor. IF has the same issue but at least both provide raw measurements too. All of those other headphones you listed are entirely different sounding and only common thing they have is a high price point.
>>53694882
lumia 520
cant support it at all
no, i like that one
do you have to buy new tubes like every 6 months if you use it everyday?
>amp that can handle 48v microphone too?
hit me with the cheapest possible
>>53695601
>/hpg/
>ever using tubes
You clearly belong on head-fi or reddit.
Solid state amps or GTFO.
>>53695601
Nah. With my Little Dot I+ my tubes last about 3 years before they start getting noisy.
Sorta a hassle to replace them, but not really a big deal.
Phone posting, but Tyll released LCD 4 review and I assume measurements.
Latter half of the vid he shit on them so hard that he shit on the high end headphone market too. Good stuff.
>>53693947
if you EQ based on the frequency response graphs, can you achieve more flatness? or does that fuck up the sound?
>>53696099
Why would it fuck it up? If you do it correctly then whatever you have has the potential to sound like TOTL equipment.
Use the links in the wiki to help you with EQ.
>>53695861
I'm a total noob, but personally I really can't understand people paying more than 1500$ for headphones. There's not even point of spending more than 300$ on headphones, when we consider that we could amazing monitor speakers like JBL lsr305 or Yamaha HS5 at that price, both of which easily blow every more expensive headphone out of the window. And if I ever wanted to spend as much as 2000$ on audio equipment, I'd rather buy myself a Sonus Faber Chameleon 7 rather than a planar-memetic LCD 4 or even a HD800, which requires modding and EQ to sound just slightly better than headphones costing a tenth of its price.
>>53696363
I'm a total noob, but personally I really can't understand people paying more than 15000$ for a car.
Will the Fiio e10k power The t50rp mk3s?
>>53696401
It's not a fair comparison. High-end headphones should be compaired with cars costing at least 100000$. 15000$ is a pretty average price for a car nowadays.
Is massdrop is down/broken right now for anyone?
>>53697215
On your end m8.
>>53692771
Probably meme but super cheap so why not try it out
>>53696435
e10k can power anything on high gain
>>53696436
And that's not a fair comparison either given how driven(lel) car industry is by constant innovation and new technologies, constant competition by multiple brands trying to do the same and a market targeted to consumers with pricing inching for profit. Also given how car pricing varies from country to country due to taxation it isn't really fair either. As an example Mercedes-Benz S 500 with no extras costs 170k euros here and that is the cheapest model sold in the US(S 550) for 90k dollars. That's double the price for the same product due to taxation.
If you have the money, would you think a flagship vehicle like S class Merc(or similar) is stupid? I'd get one of those in a heartbeat had I got the money to afford them.
High end audio is nothing but profit margin and often for a worse product than something you could buy for a lot cheaper. There is no concept of value.
>>53697541
No but certainly most stuff on the market.
>>53696436
> tfw I bought a used car for little over 1000€
>>53697558
>No but certainly most stuff on the market.
Any examples of what can't it power?
>>53697600
HE-4, HE-6
>>53692695
Reminder that the o2 amp literally sounds better than the e10k with the 702's. I didn't even expect it and I bought the o2 just to get more volume. Very happy ;)
>>53697875
I still can't find anything bad to say about E10K + K702 combo
>>53697875
Shuush you. I said the same thing too.
Everyone will be ignorant on yours or mines subjective experience on different types of amps sounding different.
I'm gonna expect replies saying: Have you A/B blind tested them.
Be quiet and let the naysayers buy whatever they want and meme about the things they don't own.
>>53697932
dt880 is a straight upgrade
bright sound signature is pretty bad on it's own
>>53697932
There's nothing bad about it but me and my brother can both hear the difference straight away. the o2 makes everything sound cleaner and more full. It's one of those cases where you wont care unless you try the o2...but then that's how this whole audio game works I guess.
>>53697558
>High end audio is nothing but profit margin and often for a worse product than something you could buy for a lot cheaper. There is no concept of value.
Well, you're not saying anything different from what I was saying here: >>53696363. At least more expensive cars usually perform better than cheaper cars at least in more than one cathegory (comfort, max speed, acceleration, consuming, ecc.ecc.), whereas more expensive headphones are only slighty better, if not even worse, than much cheaper ones.
>>53697979
I hear ya senpai
>>53698021
>dt880 is a straight upgrade
k
Why does it seem like /hpg/ has gotten even more idiotic?
>>53696099
>can you achieve more flatness?
It's as simple as addition and subtraction. Of course yes.
>or does that fuck up the sound?
Why would it?
>>53692771
>meme or not?
It's bad.
>>53695861
Did anyone even care about the LCD-4?
>>53698176
>Why does it seem like /hpg/ has gotten even more idiotic?
People saying high-end headphones are worse than lower-end ones is the absolute height of stupidity I've seen in this thread, so I'll say it does seem to be getting more idiotic.
It's like people are just saying the opposite of what head-fi says, just for shits and giggles.
>>53698176
>Why does it seem like /hpg/ has gotten even more idiotic?
Did you enjoy the speaker argument in the last thread?
>>53698223
People are against the usual "high end" audio market for a good reason based on how the products in these higher price points(which is what "high end audio" really is) perform relative to how they are priced. It's not as simple as "high end is shit, cheap is good" but rather how many of the expensive products perform no better than the better options in cheaper price points and in some cases are simply worse.
I personally despise these categories like "high end" or "low end" at indicating anything else than a price point because that's the only thing in common in products with those labels. "Mid-fi" is even more stupid, I don't even know what it really is.
>>53695861
I wish he shat on them more really.
Are sennhesier hd 438/449 any good? I've just found my old 449 and wonder if I should revive them by buying new earpods.
I have Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80ohm. Does /g/ like me?
>>53698578
That speaker crap was routine as far as shitposting goes. There isn't anything else being discussed to offset it.
>>53693258
>>Grado anything
>No.
And yet it makes it on Tyll's wall of fame. . .
>>53698176
>>53696099
I was thinking on distortion, so it usually just modify the signal to a new that the headphone plays more flat?
>>53694383
What do you mean "how?" How did your cables come in the box? Coiled up and twist tied/taped? It's pretty simple. You coil your cords to the length you desire and twist tie it to maintain that length so they aren't snaking all over the place.
>That's not bad for the cable?
As long as you aren't folding the cables no it is not bad for them.
>>53699422
>On ears
kek
The M50x is also on his wall of fame, how about that?
>>53695861
>That dip
Ouch. It's got me curious, though. Might go audition it if I find the time.
>>53699592
looks like a worse 400i
>>53698176
>Why does it seem like /hpg/ has gotten even more idiotic?
A speaker faggot has started lurking and spreads misinformation.
>>53699592
>The M50x is also on his wall of fame
Which proves that there is some kernel of truth to why it was meme'd in the first place.
>>53698578
wish there was actually an easy way to demo and buy headphones
I only picked the K702 over the DT880 and the HD600 because of the detachable cable (over DT880) and better build quality (over HD600).
I'm just hoping the made-in-china K702s aren't worse than the older K702s.
>>53699741
there is no diffence between the china k702 and the austrian one other than the china one has no headbumps
>>53699733
How nice is the e10k as a dac?, do you notice anything or is it purely to reduce 'noise' etc
>>53699741
They're the same m8, i'm assuming you wont be using them outside so you just have to be a bit careful with them, pretty easy to do.
The one thing that's turning me off from buying PM3 is the fact that the pads are non user replaceable and were a little small when I tried them out.
MSR7 it is.
>>53699801
It is more or less a noise reducer, i am looking to upgrade soon though
Thoughts on Wharfedale DIAMOND 9.0? http://www.richersounds.com/product/standmount-speakers/wharfedale/diamond-9.0/whar-9.0-blk
How's the isolation of Shure SE215? I'm used to Etymotic MC5's, is it a lot worse?
I basically need it to block the sounds of a busy street or the interior of a bus so I can listen to an audiobook silently. No loud concert stages or anything like that.
>>53699882
>i am looking to upgrade soon though
What to?, and why may I ask?, are you chasing 'silence' or something more?
Can you use the O2 DAC with speakers?
hey nerds, i've always wondered, why don't you just use usb soundcards? it's only one box and the signal is 1:1, and you can have some nice speakers/monitors connected at the same time
e10k or o2 dac?
>>53700028
SMSL M8
>>53700189
Ah ok, cheers.
>>53698176
More K702 posters.
>>53700168
Me and my brother tested them both last night and the o2 clearly sounds better, i'm not talking audiophile bullshit and we're both fairly new to this hobby.
The o2 is a lot more money though.
>me and my brother shitposter trying to force a meme
>>53700146
As far as I'm aware, external DAC/AMPs are the norm now. The only thing they can't do is virtual surround, with some older cards having true 3D positional sound if you still play old-ass games on early Windows versions.
Its loss isn't of great enough significance for most people to give up using superior external boxes, especially since software virtual surround is "good enough" for most people.
>>53700403
>The only thing they can't do is virtual surround, with some older cards having true 3D
Positional audio is done by the game.
Virtual surround is just software that can be used with any sound card. For example http://www.razerzone.com/surround
>>53700372
Are you the belgian shitposter?
I have both amps in my possession right now and the o2 sounds better, we even tested them blind folded with no way of knowing which was which. on two different computers. Fucking deal with it m8. Were fucking new to this and even we can hear the difference, why cant you?, denial?
So which new 88-masterkeyboard will I buy...
>>53700532
Not m-audio hopefully.
Roland are nice in general.
>>53700568
m-audio even has keyboards ?
heh yeah I agree though
just stacking up on some opinios like before every purchase
>>53700403
that doesn't really answer my question. i just thought that, you buy expensive headphones, you probably want a clean signal, but i still see people do setups that obviously colour or degrade the sound. even if you intentionally want coloured sound, there's software for that
>>53700568
Yeah I started out last year with the m-station 32 lel, then I got a 40 something key m-audio which had cheap floaty keys, after that I bought a Roland 49 key and recently I got the 61 key version of pretty much the same keyboard. The rolands aren't fully weighted but they have a nice action to them and they are built like tanks, i'm assuming their 88 keyboards/digital pianos are top tier.
>>53700532
i can recommend the impact lx 88 a lot, it's small as fuck for an 88 so doesn't take up your entire desk and very light aswell, and the keys are very nice synth action for that price. maybe you have a store with it out so you can go and test it. if you're a piano guy ignore this post
>>53700521
>Are you the belgian shitposter?
Glad to confirm it's just the same K702 shitposter and his autism splitting out to more 'personalities'
>>53700893
>everyone here hates me but its just one person
fuck off shitposting faggot
>>53700911
Yet another confirmation, another of the personalities has come out.
You genuinely need help.
tempted to get a t50rp mk3
are there any mods worth doing apart from swapping pads?
>>53700932
>its just one person with multiple personalities
are you genuinely retarded
>>53700934
Are people really calling a pad swapout a 'mod'? That's pretty sad compared to what traditional T50RP modding was.
>>53700954
Get help, autist. The fact that you literally sit there waiting to make the new thread so you can insert your autismpastebin about somebody who doesn't exist is really sad. I feel sorry for whoever raised you, they probably hate themselves.
>>53700809
How would a USB sound card change anything? It does the same job as an internal one.
>>53700934
T20RP Mk3 faggot here.
I put Paxmate on the inside of the cups and in the baffle compartments, taped off the baffle vents and outer cup vents with masking tape and put a little square of Paxmate on the ear-side of the driver to smooth out the treble. Also put on HM5 velour pads for additional comfy.
Still looking to reduce the treble and bass a little bit, but it sound pretty nice already.
>>53700893
Haha wow, it's actually you, i'm fairly new to /hpg/ and just from reading OP's warning I can tell it's you. What a massive sad bastard you are.
>>53699592
>It's got me curious, though. Might go audition it if I find the time.
It's nothing special, and I can tell you that from my LCD-4 impression no one cared about.
>>53699436
>usually just modify the signal to a new that the headphone plays more flat?
Transfer functions just add or subtract each other. Effects of distortion are distinct from that.
Distortion from headphone equalization is linked to headphone's ability and associated electronics to play at high levels without distortion.
>>53701045
>I'm fairly new to /hpg/
Damn how man personalities can you shit out in one thread?
>>53700888
your post confirms this to be a good keyboard
I'll remember that anon - sure seems have outstanding value for the price thanks~
>>53701076
lol just shut up, Belgium is a non country you cuck
>>53701315
this, yurop is literally irrelevant
Requesting purchase advice.
>I'm looking for a gaming dedicated headset!
>Budget
Up to $250 USD
>Location
Mexico, I'm buying from amazon, amazon.mx is quite decent actually, in price as in service but i have no problem on buying from the US website.
>Source
Desktop PC, Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z Motherboard, i enjoy good sound quality, but not enough to buy an amp or dedicated audio card.
>Preferred type
Full-sized, i want them to completely cover and seal around my ears.
>Comfort level
I would obviously prefer a comfortable headset, particular areas are: proper sealing around ears, not too heavy unless they have proper grip and not just hang on the top of my head.
>Tonal Balance
I really like a clear and strong bass, not as a shaking distorted bass, but more like feeling the kick when something hits you, like the POP*, but if general audio quality is downgraded because of this, i would rather a balanced tone.
>Past Headphones
Currently using the Audiotechnica ATH-M50xand i totally love the balance in build quality, sound quality and comfort, as for the gaming ones i'm upgrading from, some lame Turtle Beach Z300, dont even ask, i got hyped for their release (have them since they hit the stock) i reaally dont like form in these, too fragile, really heavy on the speakers, terrible padding, constantly failing battery, and the worst of all, terrible SEALING AROUND THE EARS, they put a lot of pressure above my ears, while the part under doesn't even close, terrible sound leak and really uncomfortable overall, as well as literally no software, as for the good parts, 2.4 - 5 GHz Wireless, Bluetooth, and regular jack for wired stereo, decent mic, EQ presets and this awesome mic monitor feature that lets you hear your own vocie completely lag-free, as if you didn't have them on.
Also i don't like the headphones + standing mic config, i would much rather have both features in the same device.
>Pic related (i think) is my best option so far, the Astros A40 TR
>>53701094
I'm pretty sure those impact keyboards have inconsistent velocity (aka not good for 'playing')
Probably won't be bad for making music though..
>>53701332
get a microphone
>>53701332
>headset
If it NEEDS to be a headset, Beyerdynamic, Audio-Technica and Sennheiser have some (overpriced) ones.
There's also the HyperX Cloud, a Takstar Pro 80 with a detachable mic, and its semi-open cousin the QPad QH-85.
Honestly though, get a Modmic, desktop mic, lavalier mic or ZM-Mic1.
>>53701361
might be yes
but it's pretty cheap and looks good so far
it's probably not what I am looking for but after trying it out I'm sure I can recommend that thing to a lot of people who have a set amount of money to spent
>>53701323
I-im from the UK :( .... Yep, it's a shit hole, carry on.
>>53701332
K240 and blue snowball
>>53701385
Shouldn't i just get the one i mentioned in that case? Yeah, i would like to have a headset, cuz i dont like using my M50x for everything.
>>53701046
im reading this
http://www.head-fi.org/a/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-a-tutorial
this is just to find and eliminate the resonance effect on the 5khz-8khz range?
>>53701332
Get yourself a HyperX Cloud, which is basically the endgame for headsets, and invest the money you spare into a pair of monitor speakers like the JBL lsr305 or the Yamaha HS5, so that you won't have to mind audio quality anymore and you'll laugh at children buying overpriced products like the HD600 or even worse.
>>53701597
>Yamaha HS5
just get the hs8 right away, don't even need a sub with those
>>53701644
It's overpriced. Neither the HS5 nor the lsr305 need a sub if you listen to them at a relatively close distance. There are plenty of videos on YT and elsewhere that show that these speakers can go down to really low notes without a sub.
>>5>>53693843
Philips downtown. I have the downtowns and they can't be more comfortable. I believe philips don't produce then anymore, but I'm sure you can still find them for ~30-50 bucks
>>53700019
seconding
Just randomly picked up the e10k from the mall. Can it power my q701s out of the box are does it always have to be in high gain mode?
>>53702058
It powers the K612 nicely on low gain
>>53701315
>>53701323
ew samefag
>>53702099
>posts less than a minute apart
>samefag
Beyerdynamic DT 150 or 990 pro?
>>53702390
check op for requesting purchasing advice
I doubt you'll get some at the moment though because shitpost hour is in full effect
>>53702390
DT880 600 ohm. Everything else by Beyer is meme-tier product.
So, how are you guys tonight?
>>53702390
DT990 is much more comfortable imho.
>>53702452
>>53702513
Yeah, I'll probably wait, save some money and get DT880.
>>53702452
You know that costs much more than both he asked for.
>>53702390
I don't know the 150 but I wouldn't go with the 990. The bass is pretty great and loud, although it lacks on the sub bass in my opinion, it's a bit boomy, but the biggest issue is the ear piercingly loud treble. It's quite uncomfortable and it limits the volume you can set on the headphone because the treble will start to kill you when you get loud.
>>53702591
I'd do that as well, DT880 is much closer to neutral than the DT990.
>>53702659
If anyone wants an open Beyer, DT880 600 ohm is the only way to go, regardless the price. There could be other solutions which are as valuable as the DT880 600 ohm for less money, but I'm not going to say them, since many sensitive people here might call me a brand shill.
>>53702591
No need to limit yourself to Beyers, unless that's really what you want. There are other great headphones around that price, or even cheaper, such as the HD598, K702,. At 300$ you have the K712 and I'm sure others can recommend some more.
>>53702776
> K712
No reason to get it over the K702.
I definitely agree with the rest you said though.
>>53702776
>HD598
Change that to the modded HD558, it's not hard to do it and it's even reversible.
>>53702806
The frequency charts show that the K712 have a lot more bass, as it never goes below 0dB, so there's a reason for those that want more bass.
>>53702834
Let's not forget the K612 Pro too, btw.
>>53702834
Zeos says don't do that in the latest HD518 review.
>>53702863
Zeos is a retard who thinks headphone outputs from little Class D amps are the same as the ones they have on integrated receivers.
>>53702863
Zeos says the k612 sounds harsh when it's one of the AKG 600s and 700s with less treble
>>53702834
You don't need to mod the HD558, it's better than HD598 out of the box.
>>53702883
>Class D amps
Is there anywhere where I can see different amps and their class?
>>53702909
Google what amplifier topologies are
>>53702905
It just has more bass
>>53702859
> a lot more bass
I would call it too much bass. It compromises the overall balance of the headphone imo.
>>53702905
That's more of a matter of opinion, but sure, if you like it how it is out of the box, there's no need to change it.
![28303-500x307[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fBcpe3s.jpg "28303-500x307[1].jpg")
>>53699524
So, if I just do pic related, my headphones will be ok? It apples for outside too?
>>53702513
>So, how are you guys tonight?
sleepy
>>53702967
>>53702933
HD558 has a smoother FR than HD598. HD558 has better low end than even the HD600.
>>53702905
i sounds different from the 598, a little more bass (practicaly the same) which in fact already has some, the 598 are more flat
>>53703063
> Headroom
>>53703063
How are the 598 more flat when the picture you posted clearly shows the 558 being flatter and the 598 being more rolled off in the upper midrange?
>>53703061
>smoother FR than HD598
nah there are about the same and sound different, you must like mids
>Fidelio X2 coming off the Wall of Fame
>Tyll admits he fucked up
The tribe has spoken.
http://www.superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/audeze-lcd-4-again-anyone.462/page-6#post-42735
>>53703096
has less peaks, hence more flat the 558 has a lot of gain in the mids, the 598 is more uniform overall
>>53703151
What's wrong with it?
>>53703202
558 is near identical in the midrange and has a more neutral upper midrange. It may not be as linear but it's definitely more neutral.
>>53703218
It sucks, as most people who buy it tend to find out.
>>53703147
> you must like mids
Mids are where 70% of music happens.
>>53703151
Oh well, it should have happened long ago. The poor measurements of the X2 were simply too far away from Tyll's subjective impressions.
>Budget
up to 100 pounds
>Location
london
>Source
sansa clip+
>Preferred type of headphone
i'm open to options
>Open or closed
preferably closed
>Comfort level
from 1 to 10, at least 8
>Preferred tonal balance
just wide soundstage
>Preferred music
not something in particular
>Past headphones
MDR- V55
Superlux hd681 evo
Mdr-10rc
>>53703151
Now when will the HE-400S disappear too?
>>53703297
>Superlux hd681 evo
you fucked up nugger
takstar pro 80
>>53703369
aren't they open though?
also, i don't care about gaming.
what is their price anyway?
>>53703151
Reading this shit...
>The 3k-8k scoop was never that bothersome to me. My main gripes with the latest LCD Fazors were with the muddy transient response and lack of clarity.
Well gee I wonder what is the cause of the lack of clarity and "muddy transient response"(whatever this is) in Audeze headphones.
>>53703464
Pro 80 is closed, Hi2050 is the open version.
>>53703510
oh, thanks, I'll check them out then.
is there a difference between the v6 and the 7506?
>>53703491
Considering the fact that these problems aren't present in the HD650 and that he loves them to bits, maybe frequency response isn't everything?
I just purchased a pair of "Original Xiaomi Hybrid Dual Drivers Earphones Mi In-Ear Headphones Pro".
I heard it's really great and I hope they are too.
The cable on my cheap ass Sennheiser HD 457 finally broke...
So, should I get a new cable and new earpads for my old HD 424, try to fix the current one or get something new altogether... I hate decisions.
>>53703794
Why don't you roll
>1-2-3: fix your old HD 424s
>4-5-6: fix your HD 457
>7-8-9: get something new
>0: reroll
>>53703813
Sounds fair. Rolling.
>>53703717
HD 650s have a more prominent rise towards ~3 kHz and a smooth(er) decline after the hump. Kind of like DF but with the rise being smaller in magnitude and nearly perfect Harman. LCD 4 in comparison is darker.
FR isn't everything but it's by far the majority and given how the FR differs on these headphones and how the description of what was lacking in sound also matches what was happening with the FR, I kind of find it funny he'd complain about that.
But then again he made the most retarded chart about the HD 650 scaling with amplifiers and bunch of other stupid shit.
>>53703787
Worse than their Piston 3s which are also lackluster imo but good for the price. Cheap, bassy in-ears.
>>53703843
Good luck repairing
>>53703852
Thanks.
>>53703846
Why can't they just make a headphone with the build, comfort, bass extension and low distortion of the HD800 with the tonality of the HD650?
I understand that the driver in the 800 is the best dynamic in any headphone right now and the housing is hugely responsible for the bright signature and sibilance but you'd think they could address that with their engineering expertise.
Where do you guys buy your music?
I tend to listen to EDM/Dubstep. I usually use Spotify but after comparing it to even iTunes (with Spotify's Offline Mode enabled), it just sounds slightly off. Especially with drums or cymbals.
>>53704684
>buy
You're misinformed.
>>53704693
I'm too lazy/paranoid to use What.cd
>>53704684
CDs in various stores online and irl. I like collecting stuff.
>>53704713
Private trackers aren't the only source.
>>53704798
What else is there for HQ music,Tidal? I'd prefer 320 Kbps. Lossless isn't necessary, I don't claim to hear the difference on the LCD-2's.
Physical copies aren't really an option.
>>53704817
At least try to search the web.
Repostan from last night in hopes of finding an answer.
>Budget
50 USD. I'm a college kid and this is about what I have scraped together. I can make some wiggle room up to 75, I guess, just means I need to eat ramen even more (OH BOY)
>Location
Boston, MA
>Source
Laptop (will be moving to desktop when I graduate), occasionally my phone (Samsung Galaxy S5)
>Preferred type of headphone
Doesn't really matter desu, as long as they're comfy.
>Open or closed
Closed, please.
>Comfort level
As comfy as can reasonably be had with my meager budget.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral.
>Preferred music
I listen to a ton of stuff, to be honest. Sometimes I'll listen to old vidya OSTs I enjoyed in my childhood. Sometimes I'll listen to prog metal. Sometimes I'll listen to classical music.
>Past headphones
Random fucking 20-dollar Sony headphones and a pair of Beats headphones that a rich neighbor decided to give me as a Christmas present (apparently she bought a ton in bulk at a good price and just gave them all out as Christmas presents to everyone). They're fucking horrible and they're falling apart but they were better than nothing.
Literally just free me from this torment /hpg/ I'm counting on you
>>53704853
Some closed Superlux with upgraded pads, probably.
>>53704853
superlux 668b's with non garbage pads
>>53704853
alternatively fuck superlux, find some cheap refurbed sony mdr-v6s, or used in good shape on ebay if you want to take a gamble on getting some really solid closed headphones
>>53704962
>>53704972
The 668b looks good. What pads do you recommend?
>>53705212
Hifiman pads allegedly fit, as do AKG K240 pads. Get the cheapest ones, I suppose.
>>53704684
Hi-res Music or no buy. usually ototoy or bandcamp
>>53693870
r u me
>>53706106
x2 or 702
ANSWER NOW
>>53706175
HD600
>>53706175
K612 = 702, less piercing treble, a little more mid bass
>>53706280
Really? is it a perfect combo of clarity and bass?
I'm not sure on the design but it seems that audiophiles love them. I really don't want to upgrade from my 702's...
>Budget
<$250
>Location
Canada
>Source
Android phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
??
>Comfort level
Not too important, won't be wearing for more than an hour or two at a time, but of course comfort is nice too.
>Preferred music
Anything from cool comfy to hot action tunes.
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 202
>Other
Looking for durable cord, especially at the plug in point.
>>53696435
This picture made me laugh so hard!
>>53706508
Open usually offers more perks and sound but is not good for open spaces with sound, closed on the other hand are better for open spaces
>>53707176
Ah definitely closed then.
I think this is the best place to ask this, I want to get a decent entry level audio set up but I have no idea where to start. I want to use an xlr mic on top of headphones but I dont know what I would need.
>>53707999
An interface, like a Focusrite Solo or 2i4.
>>53692695
>Budget
50-100
>Location
USA
>Source
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Good
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't know
>Preferred music
Metal and 90s alternative/grundge
>>53708025
alright thanks
>>53708031
sph9500
>Budget
$150
>Location
Burgerland
>Source
Computer with onboard soundcard, Galaxy S4, Smart TV
>Preferred type of headphone
No preference
>Open or closed
No preference
>Comfort level
I'm going to be wearing for 12+ hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
Rock, Metal, Classical (I listen to a fuck load of highres vinyl rips, if that makes a difference)
>Past headphones
Currently using the HD 558 w/ mod (I like the comfort and the soundstage, but am looking to upgrade)
I found AKG Q 701's for sub $120 from a local retaler and was wondering if I should jump on the offer. Also, reccomend an affordable DAC able to drive the Q 701's
Thanks
>>53708120
>reccomend an affordable DAC able to drive the Q 701's
Please learn how these things work first.
How do you look up for graphs if they are in Japanese or Korean? I am asking because a certain phones i own have different variants, and googling "[that phones ID] graph" sent me to a different variant of its in korean.
>>53708110
Thanks anon.
When you wanna go HiFi but cant justify the cost of two headphones but you need a studio headphone :(
>>53708031
K240
