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-- PLEASE USE THIS FORM TO GET PURCHASE ADVICE --
>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
Isolation ≠ Noise cancellation

>For the newfags that keep replying to the "Belgian shitposter"
http://pastebin.com/rhEPFtRj

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

Previous Thread: >>53636345
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first for best meme I ever fell for
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>>53663521
MDR7506 + Auray Sheep Skin Pads.
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LG Quadbeat 3 vs Xiaomi Piston 3

what's the final verdict?
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>>53663600
>>53663521

either HD558 or MDRv6/7506 with replacement pads

7506 has a lot more treble and is closed
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>>53663698
Is more treble a good or a bad thing? It still has decent bass right?

And are replacement pads really necessary? Is it that uncomfy?
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>>53663795
>Neutral
>it still has decent bass right?

nevermind, get xpt100
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>>53663572
Are there any good cheap dac's out there? I already own an o2 amp but I have to use full gain and near full volume to hear my midi keyboard properly and I start to hear a slight hiss. Listening to music etc is fine since I don't need the volume as loud.
I don't NEED one but i'm curious, do you guys think the e10k stacked on top of my o2 amp would work best for the money or are there any other alternatives near the same price?
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>bro what tube dac should I get for my headphones?
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>>53663830
>I already own an o2 amp but I have to use full gain and near full volume to hear my midi keyboard properly
what?

this really shouldn't happen
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>>53663823
I assumed neutral means decent bass, decent mids, decent treble

the reason I want neutral is because I wanna get into some music production in the near future

it's not like I want the dank epic bass lad
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>>53663888
like I said, xpt100
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Wrote this in the old thread, sorry for being chromosonally challenged
>>53659371
What kind of a desk microphone would you recommend? I've heard of the vmoda boom pro, can i put that to a mount?
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>>53663888
Get the HD 558 then
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Let's try again:

I have a schiit amp, Xonar essence STX soundcard, and HD650s.

What's the best upgrade i can do? I like bass heavy music that's completely shit and gayming.
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>>53663901
>I've heard of the vmoda boom pro, can i put that to a mount?
picturing this made me laugh

blue snowball/samson meteor is plenty
AT2020/siren/blue yeti is "I want to do something with my voice profesionally" tier (VA, youtube, streaming, etc)

>>53663908
why you tripping, faggot?
Doubt you need an upgrade at that point, though I'd recommend you look into sidegrading into an X00
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>>53663967
I spent a whole week cracking this tripcode

I have the hd600s, I like the 50s better

And fucking none of you want me to spend money or get a faggot tube amp or something?

I guess that's a good thing
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>>53663888
>music production
MDR 7506 + Pads.
It's neutral enough for production and the extra treble helps retrieving unwanted details you might want to keep off your mix.
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>>53663967
Seconding the Meteor, I have one and it sounds quite good. Looks pretty slick too.
It's a bit sensitive, but if you position it right and lower the mic sensitivity settings a little you should be fine.
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>>53663900
>>53663903
so does the MDR-7506 have terrible bass or something?
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>>53663999
maybe in your case a tube amp might be okay, seeing as you seem to want more bass

I mean the Fostex X00 massdrop exclusives, not HD600
They're honestly amazing

>>53664028
no it has great bass, though fairly weak, but you want xpt100
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>>53664028
Actually the HD558 has more mid-bass, around 30Hz the HD558 and the MDR v6 are about the same.
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>>53664066
oh ok, thanks then!

I need a bit more info after 10 minutes of google:

How much is they? Can't find a price on massdrop and I have no idea what massdrop is

How they do in sound signature?

Comfort?

How much you needa amp them?
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>>53664066
>but you want xpt100
how come? the MDR-7506 looks great too, is it unenjoyable to listen to or something?
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>Budget
100000$
>Location
America
>Source
PC/laptop/Android
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Don't care too much about comfiness
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm/bassy
>Preferred music
Mostly just rock and anime stuff but I listen to almost everything every once in a while.
>Past headphones
Shitty 5$ shit.

Please recommend amps and dacs too, I don't have any of that stuff.
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>>53664158
The XPT100 is quite neutral and very comfy, the MDR-7506 needs new pads in order to be comfy.
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Good afternoon /hpg/, how are you today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqSJ0n2xD30
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>>53664210

Tell me things about the V-Moda, I've been heavily considering buying them as a side-grade to my hd650s

I'm doing quite well, my lunch is fantastic
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>>53664210
The albums look like a storebrand cola bottle in the thumbnail.
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>>53664158
xpt100 has a very slight emphasis on bass, and is very neutral for the rest
it's very comfortable

7506 has a very heavy emphasis on treble, is very neutral of the rest and is below average on comfort

>>53664151
>How much is they?
400? they're going to be for like 500 if you don't get them on massdrop
>I have no idea what massdrop is
it's an extremely big group buy site, because it's member only, they can loop around some laws around minimum prices thus offering it lower than normal stores can. They're so big that they now have exclusive things like the K7XX and the X00
>How they do in sound signature?
V shaped, pure fun

vids to check out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyJZanUQr2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiptJgQTZuI
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>>53664177
>>53664066
I think I'm gonna go with the XPT100, thanks man

nice dubs btw
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>>53664176
HE-1
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>Budget
~$150-200

>Location
US

>Source
Fiio E10K

>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Either

>Comfort level
Good enough, but I'm really not picky

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral and flat

>Preferred music
Pretty much everything but primarily prog rock and avant-garde jazz

>Past headphones
Currently using Sony MDR-7506, really enjoying them but looking to move up a bit since they're kind of breaking
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>>53664285
yeah, I think I'm gonna order the XPT
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>>53664285
THANK YOU.

I'll try to get in on the next drop

you smart and loyal friend
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>Budget
100 to 125 yuros. Strict limit.
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
Oneplus One/DAC from my pc.
>Preferred type of headphone
Something to listen at home/on trips.
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Needs to be good but also needs to sound good. Should not hurt my ears after wearing them for a hour or so.
>Preferred tonal balance
Little bit of extra bass. Good middle and treble.
>Preferred music
DNB(Liquid and Neuro. Need to hear the snare =). Trance, dubstep, hardstyle, yung lean/rap.
>Past headphones
Some shitty 10yuro phillips.

Currently using my six year old Stanton DJ Pro 2000 which is starting to die on me. Also not too comfortable.
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>>53663697
bump for this

Which one would be better for library/campus/commute use?
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>>53664319
now stop tripping when you're not in whichever thread you trip for, it's annoying
btw here's the page where you can "request" the drop and see more info
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00?utm_placement=17&referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open&

>>53664320
why do I get you want V shaped, not just slightly bassy

xpt100 if you want a neutral sound that's slightly bassy
pro 80 if you want V shaped
m50x if you want something inbetween that's more portable

>>53664352
I have a pair of legit pistons 3, I found the treble very weak, to the point where it's unpleasant (however I use very bright headphones so there's that)
However looking at graphs, this seems to be the case with all in ears, even though I never had this problem with cheap earbuds
I find the bass to extend too long, however either due to opening up to the sound I've noticed it got less after using it occasionally for a few months
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>>53663967
>>53664019
Sounds good but it's a bit on the expensive side. Is there something like but cheaper?
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>>53664247
Sure, mine is the the m80, sounds similar to the M50 if that works as a refference, comfort if meh, as expected of an On-Ear, built quality is freaking great, this thing was built to last! Add that to a non-proprietary detachable cable and you have a bassy, portable headphone that can endure some pretty heavy use.
I like the fact that it comes with a sturdy cased for extra proctection when not in use.
I like it enough that the M100 + XL Pads + boompro went to my "want in my collection" list after less than an hour with it.
>my lunch is fantastic
Cool, also, you just made me realise how hungry i am, i guess i'll take a break from research and make some coffee.
>>53664271
>mfw i preffer pepsi
You will see, one day i'll update this and add a blue album to it.
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>>53664465
I know the Samson Meteorite is like the Meteor's little sibling. Doesn't sound as nice, but perfectly adequate for skype.

And you could always go for the ultra-poorfag Zalman ZM-Mic1 option.
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>>53664465
I don't know any good desk mics cheaper than that, but I have a zmmic1 lavalier and it does the job perfectly, recently had a compliment about the clear quality of it from a mate, but it's not that good for noisy environments

>>53664496
GL mate, you should get a mail when it's live
alternatively, you could just check the daily mails with the new drops if you don't turn those off
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tfw you miss something
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>>53664296
Very well. I stated a huge budget because I expected the Dac and Amp to cost a fortune.

That thing looks open back to me.
>>53664176
Bump.
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>>53664513
>>53664508
>Just realized the boom pro works with the headphones i have
Boy, this has been a waste of effort. Thanks anyhow fellas.
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>>53664473
> bassy, portable headphone that can endure some pretty heavy use.

that'll be a pretty big difference to my 650s.

I'll probably snag them for college in a few months, no need for portability at the moment.

Would running/gym work with them at all?

sorry about the hunger
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>>53663867
It does for my midi keyboard for some reason, otherwise it goes loud as fuck for everything else. It could be that the keyboard program I use is limited in that aspect, My last midi keyboard that was sightly smaller didn't have this problem but my new one does for some some reason.
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>your album list will never look like a coke bottle
Why do I bother living?
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so i'm stuck between these, help me lads :

Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7 + no amp
Focal Spirit One + also no amp
Shure SRH840 + maybe an e07k
Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO 250ohms + fiio e17k
Beyerdynamic Custom Studio + mabe an E07k
Akg K271 MK II + maybe an e07k
KRK KNS 8400 + maybe an e07k
AKG K551 + no amp
Sennheiser HD6 MIX + no amp
Audio-Technica ATH-A700x + no amp
AKG K167 + no amp

what should i buy ??
mostly these are the things that are important for me

>Comfortable
>a little bassy cause i listen to electronic & hip hop so much
>non fatiguing sound
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>>53664559
lucky you mate, enjoy
they're an absolute pleasure if your headphone has a standard detach cable
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>>53664602
>K551
no that thing is shit go for the K550 or K553 pro
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>>53664570
>big difference to my 650
I wouldn't know about that, never tested the HD650, but it doesn't seem bad, signature wise.
>running/gym
I don't like it very much more exercising, the cable can produce some noise when touching the shirt and it sounds rather "windy" when i'm listening to it on the wind. On the gym i just listen to a cheap Philips iem, have a Eq set just for it on the sansa clip.
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>>53664545
worth the open back.
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Momentum On-Ear for $80. Should I?
I also found the meme50 for the same price
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>Budget
$150 flexible
>Location
US
>Source
Phone and desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Decent but not too important
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy (Don't know much about this)
>Preferred music
Mostly metal, hip-hop, rock
>Past headphones
Jaybird Bluebuds X

Looked through charts and I'm considering ATH-M50X, DT770 Pro, or V-moda M-100
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>>53664584
>inb4 there's a volume setting somewhere on the keyboard that you don't know, that's set to like 5-10%

>>53664602
>Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7 + no amp
yes
>Focal Spirit One + also no amp
who
>Shure SRH840 + maybe an e07k
very boring & neutral, don't use them for listening to music, shure pretty much only makes headphones for professional use
>Beyerdynamic DT770 PRO 250ohms + fiio e17k
no, only thing it has going for it is that it's very v shaped & comfortable
>Beyerdynamic Custom Studio + mabe an E07k
custom pro one used to be heavily recommended, not anymore though so something must have happened
what's difference with the studio?
>Akg K271 MK II + maybe an e07k
no
>KRK KNS 8400 + maybe an e07k
who
>AKG K551 + no amp
these are k550 with a smartphone controller right? K550 are just a worse MSR7, maybe get K553 if you're US
>Sennheiser HD6 MIX + no amp
who? are these the basis for one of their gaming headsets? sure looks like it
>Audio-Technica ATH-A700x + no amp
maybe
>AKG K167 + no amp
kill yourself for considering this

summary, get msr7, maybe K553 if US or A700x, or 770 if you just want comfy v shaped
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>>53664717
xpt100 if you only want a very slight emphasis on bass strength but still very clear & nice bass
if you want more bass strength, M-100 is prob the way to go, 770 is more v shaped than bassy

have you considered K553? they're somewhere between 770 & xpt100 in sound profile with a small to decent boost to bass & treble
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>>53664588
Well, it is a pretty old template, i guess i'll update the album list, was waiting for a new headphone to have a good excuse, but i don't see it happening any time soon.
>tfw i haven't even tested a HD800 yet.
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>>53664768
It's a part of you now, you can't just let that go.
>tfw i haven't even tested a HD800 yet.
As with anything more expensive, it's going to be disappointingly similar to everything else you've heard. For all the talk you see about headphones and stuff, even $15 in-ears are going to achieve at least 80% of what a $1600 headphone can and given impressions of it against other 'TOTL' offerings, even spanning to $16k or higher.

If they had HD650s with the HD800 fit/build I'd jump on them without a second thought.
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Newfag here in need of buying advice. My ear buds today just broke and need a new pair.

>Budget
£100 (willing to go a little over)
>Location
Britain
>Source
iPhone 5S, computers
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs
>Open or closed
N/A
>Comfort level
7/10 (need to be decently small, not a huge fan of over ear buds)
>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped, bassy.
>Preferred music
Mostly EDM and some rock etc.
>Past headphones
Beats Tour (biggest waste of money in my life)
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>>53664720
There isn't and i'm very familiar with it, in fact it's the direct step up from my last keyboard.

I was surprised how high I had to crank the o2 up to play it but I play it at a decent volume and the hiss only just starts to kick in so it's not a real problem like I said.
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>>53664602
beyerdynamic is fucking uncomfortable after like 4 hours.

would not buy again gave them to my jewish ex
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>>53664989
I hate it when someone says earbuds. Those types of earphones sit on the outer part of your ear ie.apple earpods

Call them. In-ear earphones, IEMs, earplugs.
I hate the universal term earbuds fuck me dead.
Even google imaging ear buds people mix them up with the ones that goes in your ears.

SE215.
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>>53664996
did you ask around on forums or so about it?
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>>53664828
>It's a part of you now
I guess you're right.
About the diminishing returns thing, i'm expecting less of a "wow, it's much better" reaction from myself and more of a "Yeah, nothing new, but it does combine characteristics i like" can of deal.
It would be fun to test more models anyway.
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>budget
<100$
>location
Brazil
>Source
Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
whatever
>Comfort level
comfortable, need to use 4~5 hours without hurting my ears
>Preferred tonal balance
I think bassy but not much
>Preferred music
I listed to a lot of rock, hip-hop and jazz, but often electronic too
>Past headphones
some old ass sony mdr-v200 and a akg k240 mk ii
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>>53665086
Thanks and apologise for using the wrong terminology.
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>>53665130
>It would be fun to test more models anyway.
It's the best way after all. Actually considering the huge cups and deep cavity of the HD800 it could be a very diffierent experience coming from what you have, it certainly was for me when I tried the HD800 after owning the DT880.
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>>53665146
You better import something huebro, NVX XPT100 might be perfect for you.
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>>53665120
No and it's not that much of a problem since it only happens when i'm playing my keyboard and on top of that I have slight tinnitus.

I guess it's more the fact that audiophiles not only have amps and dacs but they have ridiculously expensive one's. I don't exactly need a dac but having guaranteed silence in terms of a hiss etc would be nice at this point considering how much I have spent on this stuf already. God knows :/
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>>53665216
Much more room for the ears when compared to the DT880? And here i was thinking they were comfortable enough.
>>53665146
>Brazil
Se não se importar com usados dê uma olhada nos classificados do HTForum, eles costumam ter modelos bacanas por preços bem melhores que as lojas.
Ps. Não confundir com HotForum, que é sobre prostitutas.
>mfw i was going to show fried what i wanted to by oppened a forum full of hookers recommendations
>>53665369
Importing might not be a good idea giving the current economic situation we are having here.
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i've had my SE-215Ks for 4 months.... anything i should know now?
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>>53665692
Concordo que importar algo na nossa situação econômica não seja a melhor opção, mas o fato é que, ao menos nas lojas que pesquisei, não tem opção de headphone decente aqui no Brasil, tudo o que achei foi headset vagabundo. A única opção decente que tem é o Superlux HD 681, o que por sinal é o que eu tenho, e alguns poucos headphone overpriced, tipo o HD 598 por 1400 reais na Kabum. Recentemente comprei o HD 558 na Amazon por recomendação de anons daqui mesmo, possível graças à aqueles sistemas de redirecionamento (usei o Shipito), tudo saiu por 120 dólares. Como com o Shipito é possível eu mesmo fazer a declaração alfandegária, coloquei um valor relativamente baixo lá e marquei que era um gift, então estou na espera se vou pagar imposto ou não.
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>>53665692
Valeu amigo! Vou dar uma olhada sim. Realmente os preços por aqui não são nada legais, mas isso não é o maior problema, que penso ser a disponibilidade que não é nada boa. Enfim, vou me registrar, obrigado!
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>>53665692
>Much more room for the ears when compared to the DT880?
Muuuuch more. I actually feel my ears pressing against the black felt in front of the driver now after getting used to the 800. Actually the 800 is probably the only headphone I've tried where my ears really aren't touching anything inside the cup.

Also this is with the black T1 pads, which push out a bit more and add some extra distance between that black felt cover and your ear, similar to the HD600. (Not sure if the gap between the pads and the felt is that visible in the pic)
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>>53665983
that's great to hear, I had some 880s and I couldn't wear them for any significant length of time because of comfort issues.

Modding the pads is a must with the 880 770 imo, kinda like grados
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redpill me on dacs and amps /hpg/
how is a 2299usd dac better than a 99usd one and how is a 99usd dac different from a 1699usd one?
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>>53666034
>how is a 99usd dac different from a 1699usd one
how is a 99usd amp different from a 1699usd one
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Different anon but similar to the anons questions above.

Is it a downgrade if my audio chain changed from:
motherboard>usbcable>modi2>magni2>headphones
to
raspberrypi>pifidac+>magni2>headphones

Will my dac sound different?
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>>53666034
Sounds like you're comparing the Yggdrasil to the Modi and Ragnarok to the Magni with those price figures. Some swear by improvements in the former, some disregard anything over that Magni/Modi price point. YMMV.

>>53665983
>>53666020
Took a photo to better illustrate the additional gap provided by the T1 pads.

Boy these sure do collect dust when they're sitting on my bookshelf not being used.
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>>53665130
>>53666020
I feel like near the top it becomes less about what is objectively better and more about the sound signature you like. The HD800's are fairly light and comfortable for a headphone their size, which for me already made them preferable over some other options.
I ended up using the french buttplug mod to tame the 6khz peak, as it seems to be the most effective and discreet.
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>>53664828
Why HD 650s? Do you really like their sound that much?
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>>53666261
Aside from the weak subbass they basically have the ideal tonal signature (to me and apparently to listeners in Harman's research as well). A little weaker on the treble and a little stronger in the bass, relative to the midrange.
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>>53666261
it's a really good reference headphone. It's how sound should sound. It doesn't sway in any direction, it just is.

If you want clarity of tone, the 600 and 650 are hard pressed to beat. They're just accurate at reproducing sound, and thus they are insanely easy to recommend.
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>>53666149
>Sounds like you're comparing the Yggdrasil to the Modi and Ragnarok to the Magni with those price figures. Some swear by improvements in the former, some disregard anything over that Magni/Modi price point. YMMV.
i am but the point of my post wasn't to compare those specific models, besides i'll never buy any of those anyway. you cant trust a brand named shit.

im trying to find out the differences, if a portable amp from shure or audio technica does the same job as any other amp then ill try to get that because its smaller
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>>53666440
They all achieve at the same thing at the end of the day, higher end stuff just tends to dip into comonent circlejerking and who has the biggest transformer or capacitors in their box.

You know you're in too deep when you're building a Dyanalo with an RK50 pot.
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>>53666519
does higher price = better product?
can you recommend the best amp and dac?
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>>53666727
If price is a concern Fiio and Schiit have great amps at a variety of prices

if it isnt go to headroom
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>>53666727
>does higher price = better product?
No, price is determined by the manufacturer and has little bearing on the quality of the product.

The only case where more expensive = better would possibly have a close correlation would be DIY projects with the cost being the BOM. With this you know that spending more will actually get you better components and potentially better sound.

>>53666727
>can you recommend the best amp and dac?
I cannot. Depends what your definition of 'best' is. Best measuring? Best sounding would be far too subjective to label anything as 'best'.
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>>53666760
price isn't really a concern but obviously if there isn't much of a difference between a AT-HA5050H
(6000usd) and a AT-PHA100(500usd) then i'll go for the latter
>>53666762
how am i supposed to find out which one is the best for me?
right now i'm considering the AT-PHA100 for the amp because it's small and cheaper than the portable one from shure andhave no idea what to get for a dac
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>>53666935
Chances are you don't need a DAC anyway. Typical recommendations under $100 tend to be the FiiO E10K and SMSL SD-793II, at $100 you'd probably just be looking at the O2 or Magni 2 alone and using your onboard DAC.

That of course assuming you even need an amp in the first place. What headphones do you have?
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>>53665812
>Shipito
Que bacana, não conhecia esse mecanismo de compra, vou dar uma olhada, vivo querendo importar coisas.
>>53665899
Sem problemas, faz tempo que não entro lá, não sei se tem algum modelo bacana atualmente, mas já comprei e testei vários de lá.
>>53665983
>>53666149
>the only headphone I've tried where my ears really aren't touching anything inside the cup
Cool, that's definitely a point in favor of the HD800 should i ever decide to buy it, i have the sensation of having my ears squashed.
Byt the way, i'm thinking of getting new pads for my DT880, are the T1 pads different from the stock DT880 ones than? About the dust, is it worse than with the silver pads? Mine are kidda yellowish even though i wash them regularly.
>>53666020
Really? The DT880 doesn't bother me much in terms of comfort, had much more problems with the AD900X, maybe my ears are big, but some times it feels like a very comfortable on-ear and not over-ear.
>>53666172
Yeah, when thinking about it i tend to show more interest in the general signature and comfort, but in the case of the HD800 i admit what catches my attention the most if the stage, i've always thought my personal ideal would be a signature similar to the DT880 with the big stage feeling of the k702.
Can't really remember which had better positional accuracy, HD600 or K702.

Pic unrelated.
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>>53666992
>are the T1 pads different from the stock DT880 ones than?
They're closer to typical velour pads than the soft, grandparents' grey rug on the couch feel of the silver 770/880/990 pads. Definitely don't feel quite as nice as the silver once but the added distance from the driver helped with the comfort in another way. Enough to justify them anyway. Had no desire to put the silver ones back on + I got them for free since my friend coming from Canada was coming over and the pads needed to arrive at his place before he left but according to the tracking it hadn't so I got a refund, then he called me on the day he was leaving telling me he got them.
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>>53666992
Also forgot to add
>i've always thought my personal ideal would be a signature similar to the DT880
It's a different kind of sibilance, more painful. 8KHz is much more tolerable than 6KHz. The 'sss' from female vocals on the original HD800 completely put me off them but the S toned that down quite well. That SD resonator should do the job too.

There's still a hint of it on the S, don't get me wrong. It's why I had the cork mod on them but I decided to remove it recently.
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>>53663609
Do you need an amp for these to sound good?
I have the m50x and an ie800.
Are these worth buying or are my current ones good?
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>>53666961
i have nothing yet. i thought i'll just order it all at once from amazon. anyway i'm considering the ATH-M70x and the SE846

is this any good
motherboard>DacMagic XS>AT-PHA100>ATH-M70x/SE846
or did i fuck up?
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>>53667274
I think you need to research a little more, those headphones/in-ears aren't recommended all that commonly because they're lackluster for their asking prices.

>AT-PHA100
Why such an expensive portable when it's from your motherboard anyway?
>DacMagic XS
I would avoid bus powered DACs if possible.

For one thing, would open headphones be an issue or do you want closed ones?

You would probably get a better result from a Magni2Uber/Modi2Uber stack as far as DAC/Amp goes and have all the I/O you'd need, as well as enough power from the amp for most headphones.

I believe it's best if you fill out the purchase advise form.
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>Budget
Endgame
>Location
Australia
>Source
Magni 2
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
7+/10
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
>HE400i
Comfort is on point, treble can _sometimes_ get annoying but every other time, I love them.
>SE535
Holy fuck the mids are amazing.

Just posting it again. I'm basically stuck between HD800S, Ether and LCD-X.
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>>53667212
What are the IE800s like? I heard they were muddy as shit.
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>>53667212
The T20RP/T40RP/T50RPs do benefit from an amp, yes. They're quite hard to drive, my phone can just about get them to a reasonable level if I max it out.
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>>53667379
See>>53664176
i don't really like open headphones
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>Budget: ~$300
>Location: US
>Source: Phone and PC
>Preferred type of headphone: In-Ear
>Comfort level: 7+/10 Use for 2-6 hours
>Preferred tonal balance: V-shaped, more concerned about the highs.
>Past headphones: Bose QC25 (mostly love the sound, but hurts my heard after a while due to glasses), Bose SoundTrue Ultra in-ears (comfy but sound is lacking)
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Anything better than these at this price range? (~130€)

There's the HD558, DT990, don't know anything else. Willing to go a tiny little over budget but not 200€

My source is a FiiO E10K
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>>53667604
I think it's best you research this stuff and understand how it works before blinding dropping up to $10k on it based on anecdotes from people mostly shilling the products they own.
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>>53667665
There's the K702 for €176, and the Fostex Tx0RP Mk3 series for about €150-160.
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>>53667579
I use a Scarlett 2i2 on my desktop, you think the headphone port on that could drive it?

>>53667542
No man, the mids and highs are both really clear, bad just extends down to 8hz so people not used to subbass would take time to get used to it
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>>53667705
alright i will, thanks.
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>>53667705
Blindly*
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>>53667773
That's only USB-powered, right? Maybe.
You might not be able to play these things LOUD, but you'll want to.

Make sure to switch out the pads for something more comfortable though, and maybe do some modding with sound deadening foam/felt/cotton/electrical tape. You can get these things to sound absolutely amazing, all while being comfy as fuck.
Stock pads sound good, but they're really really shallow and the clamp makes them painful after a while.
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>>53667812
It's usb only yeah, I can hook up a 12V adapter but I think that's only for Mic phantom power.
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How much do DACs actually improve sound quality?

Using MDR-7506 and pondering if I should should invest in a FiiO E10K
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>>53667905
The e10k won't make them sound worse, that's for sure. I bought it for 3 reasons

1 - Get rid of noise created by the internal dac on my PC
2 - Get a a dedicated potentiometer for my headphone
3 - Have enough power to power any AKG headphone

If 1 and 3 don't apply to you that I don't see much of a point besides the second point. The quality difference in sound in minimal IMO, however since your headphones have very low impedance than the e10k might actually change them a bit (to the better) due to its very low output impedance of less than 1ohm but that depends on what you're connecting those to right now
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AKG K701 as good as new for 90€
Yes or no?
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>>53667847
They're worth a shot, if you're into modding. Just changing out the pads will mess with the sound, usually in a bad way. You'll have to compensate for this in some way, thankfully there's a few massive, very useful threads on head-fi dedcicated to modding these things.
Start there, then tune to your liking.
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>>53663572
Redpill me on the Fostex THX00. Is it worth getting?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00-purpleheart-headphones?mode=guest_open
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>>53668216
Will they be noticeably better than my m50x or ie800?
I don't want to end up spending money on something that's not an improvement.
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>>53668264
The MrSpeakers Mad Dogs were based on the old T50RP Mk2, and they had a $300 price point.
If you're willing to mod, they'll end up sounding better than the M50x, don't know about stock though.

Again, if you're into modding, I'd suggest picking them up. If not, there's probably better options.
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¡No contaban con mi astucia!

I've never used headphones or iems over $10. Is the M40X good? People say that it's like an M50X but with less bass.

There's no place where I can test those headphones where I live, since stores just sell beats knockoffs and other cheap shit.

I'm using $1 earbuds right now, and those are the best that i've heard, so I guess that anything that I buy will be fucking amazing.

With good headphones, can you hear the "background" voices easily? (done by the same singer, but at a lower pitch or something)
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>>53667518
Go for the HD800S
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>>53663572
Filling out the form because every headphone I've had before has been quite shit tbqhwya

>Budget
Nothing too far above £50. I'm not about to spend a 100 pounds on a pair of noise makers
>Location
England
>Source
iPhone 6
>Prefered type
Not IEMs. They make me uncomfortable.
>Open or closed
Closed. I can't let others hear my weeashit ( ´ _ ` )
>Comfort level
Don't care if it hurts after a while. I like a snug fit though
>Prefered music/tonal balanced
Bassy, classical, v shaped

Thanks for any help!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhfxDo3JoBc

>inb4 headfi

What's up with the past year and new headphone announcements?
This year it seems there's going to be just as much new shit, namely, MrSpeakers electrostats.
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>>53667518
You are doing yourself a major disservice if you not equalizing. Whether it is 400i or something more pricey, equalize it. This goes double for the pricier headphones, they generally seem more colored than many more inexpensive alternatives.
>Just posting it again. I'm basically stuck between HD800S, Ether and LCD-X.
Ether is flattest, but why do you want do you want to pay 1500+ for a very half assed and sloppy EQ?

>>53666992
>>53667062
>EDTV900 or EDTVB900
Not much a difference IME.

>>53668900
>new shit
Says it all really. There looks a lot of rehashed and uninteresting products.

>>53667212
If you were ordering Complys for IE800, don't they not actually fit?

>>53667274
Don't suppose you're still here?
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>>53668416
M40X online measurements from k-goldenears are good.

EQ your $1 earphones flat. Make the bass mids and highs sound the same level. It won't be analytical as a more expensive headphone. It may sound compressed. I just don't get why people don't EQ. They just use preset EQs ew.
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>>53667665
K702

The non insane end game senpai
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>Budget
$150
>Location
California
>Source
Phone/laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Any
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Any
>Preferred tonal balance
Any
>Preferred music
Any
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>>53669234
>Don't suppose you're still here?
I am.
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>>53669234
>Not much a difference IME.
Odd because the velours are very different and the way the pads fit on the headphones are different too. The EDTVB900 isn't just a black version of the EDTV900.
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>>53668252
>closed headphone
I can't go back to those (outside of necessity for use outside) after trying out open headphones

if only because of the comfort. My ears don't get sweaty with open (around-ear) headphones.
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>finally get my K702's
holy shit, my music has layers
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>>53669511
>layers
like an onion?
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About to move from kcs75 to world's ugliest headphones.
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>>53669623
I have koss porta pros and superlux hd681s.
They both sound boomy as fk.
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>>53669234
>Complys for IE800
They have this proprietary tip where the tube of the eartip contains a hard plastic cylinder that snaps onto the iem.
I plan to sacrifice a pair of tips, slice off the rubber on top and shove the complys onto the cylinder instead of trying to attach them directly.
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Is E12A "IEM Edition" just marketing bullshit? What makes it different than E12?
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>>53667752
>>53669261
I've read that the 702 is even more light on bass than the 612 though. Also isn't the 702 harder to drive?
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>>53669654
How are the mids?
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>>53669933
According to measurements, the K612 is flatter.
The K702 has better soundstage and treble though, from what I've heard, and the detachable cable is convenient.
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>>53669986
>According to measurements, the K612 is flatter.
Can't find any direct measurements comparing 612 and 702. There's a graph for the 702 vs 601 which shows that the 601 has more sub bass compared to the 702. The 612 is supposed to be a tad warmer than the 601 so I'm guessing the 612 has more bass all around?
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>>53669935
It's better on the superluxes and brighter too.
The porta pros sound much more boomy down low.
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>>53670001
From what I've heard, yes.
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>>53669295
Some general thoughts:

-Closed headphones are still not a very populated category in the high end. Most closed headphones are meant for portable or transportable use, and priced more economically. All the better, because the pricey closed sets I've heard so far, TH900, ED8, and LCD-XC, as some in-production examples, sound poor. TH900 isn't very closed either, some leak.
-In-ears can sound decent, most don't. That they shove up to 10-14 drivers into a single earpiece doesn't have to help, it might even make things worse. Bassy in-ears are easy to come by, it's practically all you can find below 50 dollars, and still a decent majority at the upper price brackets.
-I speak for myself here, but carrying around an amp and DAC stack is awful. Each cable that gets added is an exponential increase in frustration, never mind rubber bands that get involved with multiple components.

More specifically:

-The Dacmagic already works as a combo. The AT combo isn't doing much of anything for you, besides letting you use an amplifier with a phone. Depending on your phone, it may not benefit at all.
-I happen to think Shure's in-ears compose a "pleb" brand, so to speak. That is, the earphones they make check off feature boxes nicely, but they don't sound so good. High isolation, detachable cables, easy fit. Cable connectors are problematic with most lower models, I think 846 didn't have those problems in the connector, but the body is much larger a fatter earpiece.

The usual selling points of SE846 are in its bass and filters, which can be copied and done better with careful adjustments or two EQ bands applied to a dirt cheap in-ear. SE846 has high sensitivity, but this can be a mixed blessing from electronics noise heard as hiss. The treble quality is not better than what can be had on cheap sets either, but expecting a direct relation of price to sound quality with earphones doesn't work.

If you want a bassy headphone, Shure SRH1540 is an option.
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>>53669789
Bigger battery, lowered maximum output.

>>53669407
>the velours are very different
I won't repeat myself here.
>and the way the pads fit on the headphones are different too
Same hole opening, same diameter and driver covering. Slip VB on and replaced in the same way as EDTV900. The T1 parts are the same in dimensional aspects.

>>53669746
I know it's a unique fit, wouldn't that solution be better with wider bore Complys?
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>>53670288
Perhaps, if the T 400 is too small I'll try the 500.
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>Budget
250$, flexible
>Location
U.S.
>Source
Mobo, but will be acquiring a Schiit Stack (Magni/Modi) upon buying headphones
>Preferred type of headphone
full-sized circumaural
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
My ears are a bit big, so something that won't make them feel sore after a few hours
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm/Neutral
>Preferred music
Jazz, K-pop/J-Pop, Vocaloid, and memewave mostly
But I do listen to a lot of stuff
>Past headphones
Sony MDRV6
Great headphones, will still use them for other applications but I'd like something exclusive for my battlestation.
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>>53670693
HD600 (neutral) or X2 (bassier).
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>>53670804
Where can you get HD600 for 250 bucks?
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>>53670288
>>53670288
>I won't repeat myself here.
>Same hole opening, same diameter and driver covering. Slip VB on and replaced in the same way as EDTV900. The T1 parts are the same in dimensional aspects.
You're free to have an opinion. I can't blame you, I thought they were the same before I got them too based off of specs alone.

As you can see in this photo, the perforated back of the black pads clearly has an inward slope while the silvers are flat.
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>>53670988
And here, though hard to capture because I don't know my way around a camera, hopefully the difference in the pads is a litle more pronounced.

Basically the fibrous 'strands' of the silver velour are longer than on the black, which feels similar to your standard velour pads (HD600/650 ones, for example).
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>>53671017
Woops forgot photo.
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Amp/Dac solution for Sennheiser HD 700
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>>53671280
Scrap the HD700.
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Stop me from falling for the T50RP Mk3 meme.
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>>53670804
>>53670932
Massdrop is doing a deal on DT880s. Would those also suffice, or is the difference too substantial?
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>>53671585
Depends on how you like your treble.
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>>53671609
I was looking for warm headphones, since a boosted treble would make my weebshit music tiring to listen to. And from what I can garner about the 880s, treble is emphasized, so I might pass.

Would there be any DT880 owners that can enlighten me on this issue?
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do headphones that don't leak audio when listening to weebshit with high pitched voices exist?
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>>53671929
any headphone can do that, you just need to stop listening to screechy weebshit.
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>>53671929
Fostex T50RP MKIII with Shure Alcantara™ Ear Pads
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>>53671929
Most closed cans and probably every IEM.
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>>53671698
DT880 owner here, if you don't like prominent treble than i don't think you will enjoy the DT880, unless of course you are ok with EQing the treble down to the same general level as the mids or a bit lower, in which case you would probably make it warm sounding.
>>53671929
closed-back headphones and iems.
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>>53672000
Do you listen to weebshit? If EQing the DT880s can mitigate the treble, then that'll narrow it between these and the X2s.
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>>53672070
EQing the X2 would be much harder. Their FR is very inconsistent while the DT880 are very linear up to 2-3kHz where they drop off a bit and then shoot up around 6kHz, peaking at 8-9kHz.
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>>53672070
Don't particularly listen weeb stuff, but it's not hard to EQ the treble on the DT880 and the result would show on any genre that you find rather bright for your taste.
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>>53663609
Do you know if a V-Moda BoomPro would work on these?
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>>53672100
>>53672170
Thanks for the feedback. Lastly, I'd like to ask about the bass. Weak? Punchy?
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>>53672226
More punch than on the K702 of the HD600, but still not a basshead headphone.
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>Budget
200
>Location
arg
>Source
dap
>Preferred type of headphone
full
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
10/10
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
ATH-AG1
i like the sound i dont like the headband because it fucks my shit up also i dont need a mic
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>>53672478
K553 pro or K550
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Is Chord Mojo a meme?
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>>53672569
All Chord products are.
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>>53665512
>It's really not a problem
>I know my gear really well
>Please help

Nigger stop.
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K702 for 177 or HD598 for 179 jewros. what do
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>>53673357
HD558 or K612 Pro. Both better and cheaper than those two.
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>>53673365
Not that anon but why is k612 better than k702?
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>>53673422
Better more accurate frequency response and a lower price.
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>>53664176
Fostex th-900 or Ether C
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>>53663572
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>>53673852
>ワイフ
contain your wapanese autism
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>>53673852
Love Live albums a shit, Nico a shit.
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>>53673852
Should I watch Love Live?
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>>53674004
Angelic Angel is bretty gud
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>>53674140
Do you like idols?
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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00-purpleheart-headphones/

will this be the best headphone release this year? should i set my alarm to get in on this
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>>53674140
No, Cinderella Girls is better.
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>>53674140
For Maki.
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>>53674185
Just a recolored X00.
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>>53674180
I don't know, would be babys first idol show.

>>53674198
Will check it out.
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Rate
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>>53674232
average AKG fanboy
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>>53674247
>belgian shitposter
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>>53674256
why haven't you fucked off already welfare shitposter? don't you have some other place to go pretend you're multiple people and project your insanely high levels of autism
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>>53664606
>>53664625
>>53674256
end your life welfarecuck
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>>53663908
incase you didn't get the mail & you checked in here again for some reason


The TH-X00 Purpleheart will be available for purchase this Friday, March 25 at 9 a.m. EST / 6 a.m. PST. In the meantime, you can visit the drop page to join the discussion, read up on the changes to the sound signature, learn about the history of our collaboration with Fostex, and more.
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>>53671381
Do it, report back.
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>>53674140
Maybe. I enjoyed it.

>>53674198
Original im@s was great, Cinderella girls was eh. Quite different from LL.
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>>53674535
First season and the movie of LL were terrible.
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>Budget
50-150
>Location
Mex
>Source
Laptop, Fiio X1
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
i want to use for 3 hours at least
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral, flat, natural
>Past headphones
mdr-v55, HD 518, HD598SE, cheap mdr-pq5
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>>53674622
MDR-7056
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>>53674665
7506*
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>>53674681

im using the HD598SE inside my house, open headphones weren´t made to use in exteriors and areas with a lot of sound right?
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>>53674769
correct
you'll want to EQ the treble down on 7506 if you're used to 598
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>>53674822

thanks bro
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>>53674852
cute
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Guys, what bitrate is music on Youtube 1080p setting?
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>>53674232
>I dislike AKG so I put it next to all this bad stuff
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>>53675110
see
>>53674274
>>53674295
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>>53674232
>the belgian faggot is getting this pathetic
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>>53675158
everyone here hates you kys
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>>53675221
>>53675234
see >>53675158
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>>53675234
everyone here hates all of you, just stop replying, you're shitting up the thread too
>>53675103
http://www.h3xed.com/web-and-internet/youtube-audio-quality-bitrate-240p-360p-480p-720p-1080p
tldr 192 kbps
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>>53675103
shit
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>>53675244
>>53675103
fuck my bad, apparently the 192 is their old bitrate, now it's 126 mp4 / 155-165 webm regardless of video quality
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>>53675103
Download a YouTube video in webm VP9 and check what bitrate they use right now. They've gone through a lot of stuff over the years and it still depends on what formats your browser supports.

I can check it out later today as it interests me too.
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Is it true when people say that studio monitor headphones fall short on bass?

Using MDR-EX650AP as my main device during commutes but thinking of picking up MDR-7506 as everyone here recommends it

Every review says it's great to use in the studio and i understand why, but there's nothing about casual listening
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>>53675606
most people prefer V shaped for fun, if not that, they prefer Bassy, which has bass similar to V shaped but less treble

Ofcourse if you go look at neutral or bright headphones, for the general consumer they will be worse when listening for fun, however some people prefer that sound profile to listen to music
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https://www.massdrop.com/buy/fostex-x-massdrop-th-x00-purpleheart-headphones/

hour and a half. how fast do you think it will sell out
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>>53675749
a day
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I only listen to King of Carrot Flowers.
What's the ideal headphone for this?
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>>53675943
hd598
it'll go perfect with being an insufferable autist
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>>53675606
The 7506's are actually quite bassy, although it's a boomy bass. There's little that these headphones don't hype, which for monitoring I feel is a good thing because I can focus on picking out problems with the audio like excess rumbling or buzzing and deal with it on the spot.
When monitoring you're also dealing with raw un-mastered audio, so if they didn't over-emphasis anything, you probably wouldn't hear anything, since your dynamic range is all over the place.
Once the audio has been recorded and I want to listen in to the details, I switch over to the HD800, which also isn't exactly 'fun' to listen to, it's more like a surgical knife, but it does the job.
In the end I'm listening to all sorts of devices to make sure the audio sounds good on everything.
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>>53675968
So what headphones would you say are 'fun' when you dont need to analyze music and are listening to finished pieces?
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>>53676099
x00 is the most fun headphone in production
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>>53676099
Not that anon, but it depends on your budget. For me, my "fun" headphones are PM3 and I generally use them in the library because the signature is easy to listen to for extended periods of time.
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>>53674185
>>53674429
>purple heart
It starts off as an exotic looking wood, but that purple color will degrade to brown over time.
The headphone isn't bad at least.

>>53671381
The price has been raised several times over compared to its heyday of experimentation and modification.
The reason it picked up as a mod platform was because it was cheap and it used a different driver type. The actual performance on the T50rp driver is crap, and still is. Fostex changed up some parts of the enclosure some

It's a DIY headphone for suckers, but anything DIY can sound better to your ears, no matter how bad it really is (placebo effect). You can start with the T50RP mk3 or pick up a vintage planar, possibly for less than the mk3.
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Sennheiser HD215
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>>53676324
yeah I prefer the default X00 a lot more too, but hey, beggars can't be choosers, if you missed the first two, this is your chance
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>>53667665
K612 can already be considered as one of the best open headphones in production. The only real upgrade I can see is a pair of JBL lsr-305 monitor speakers, but they're much more expensive, considering that they need a subwoofer.
> HD558
mid-bass hump, slightly better sub-bass, but dull sounding compared to the K612.
> DT990
bass monsters, no human being should consider them. The DT880 250/600 ohm are better, but they surely cost more than 130eur for new.
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>>53676399
>bass monsters, no human being should consider them.
whaa whaa my preferred sound profile is better than yours
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oh shit should I?
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>>53676571
weren't they 400? what the fuck
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>>53676571
Depends on how you like your bass.
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What does "loose" "tight" and "punchy" bass mean?
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>259 purchased in 6 minutes

whelp
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>>53676603
meme meme meme
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>>53676603
>Loose
Lacking in.
>Tight
Detailed and controlled; not boomy or loose.
>Punchy
Not always necessarily boomy but has impact.

>>53676693
This. Describing audio is retarded.
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>>53676698
Good explanation though. So long as you don't fall into the "danceable cables" audiophile dribble, it's not super complicated to describe sound. A boomy bass is where there is a lot of it, but not with a lot of detail, just lots of untz that begins to drown out the mids when it starts to distort.
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>>53676813
im just looking for a warm, punchy and tight bass, mayeb lukewarm highs that arent too tinny and veiled.
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>>53676833
don't worry bro, beats by dre got you
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>>53676833
Sounds like Grado sound to me, particularly the ones with the wooden housings, very warm and deep bass on those, while also being tight across the range. Of course they bleed sound like nothing else, are built and look terrible, and aren't comfortable unless you replace the earpads.
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So, what's the difference between the Yuin's Pk3, Pk2, and Pk1 other than price?
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>>53677124
their sound
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>>53676571
no buy fidelio x2
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>>53674185
>will this be the best headphone release this year?
black friday is always the best every year
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>Budget
650€
>Location
Norway
>Source
O2+ODAC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
High
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, leaning towards bassy, not boomy but reaching solid sub-bass/deep bass.
>Preferred music
Classic Rock, Metal, Electronic(a), Pop, Industrial, Hip-Hop, Blues Rock, Country Rock, Prog Rock, most genres really.
>Past headphones
ATH-M50, Beyerdynamic DT 880.
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My pistons 3 is kill after 8 months of being abused like a Chinese whore

Thinking of getting another p3 but is there any earphone that could compete at the same or slightly higher price point?
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Havent been here in a while, is comfygrados still around?
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>>53677488
e10
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>>53677473
go for the k702's
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>>53677488
Brainwavz ProAlpha
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>>53677473
What did the DT880 have wrong?
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>>53677473
HE400i
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>>53677488
KZ ED3
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>>53677540
>>53677580
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

>>53677577
Nothing wrong with them really, it's just that they're kinda bass-shy and some of my music sounds kinda lackluster as a result with them. Probably the most neutral headphones I've tried, if that says anything. Overall they're great though, and I got them for a great price.
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>>53677635
k702 are the opposite of bassy or "neutral to bassy" headphones btw
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