>Using obscure Autohotkeys scripts to get basic desktop functionality like using a window on top.
>Using shady chromium based software to get tabs on the file explorer.
>Constant pop-ups about software updates becasue there is no default package system.
>Thinkering with Cleartype to get readable fonts.
>Can't scroll taskbar icon to cycle through windows.
Why would I run this piece of shit OS outside a VM?
>muh vydia
I don't care about it.
>>53647586
adobe
sony vegas
fl studio
chrome canary
norton
kaspersky
nod32
winrar
uTorrent
>>53648250
>uTorrent
>kek
>>53648250
Your list is only 3 decent reasons.
As for the rest, one's a botnet browser, three are anti-virus anti-malware bullshit you don't even need, the last two have better alternatives
Anytime this is brought up though suddenly every windows user is a graphical designer or music producer.
>>53648250
>antiviruses
HAHAHA
>>53648250
None of the real 'reasons' you gave is not exclusive to shitblows
>>53648250
You literally didn't include the one thing that makes Windows worth having, and that's Visual Studio.
>>53648250
You can't be this dumb.
>>53648250
>adobe
>sumatra PDF or Foxit
>sony vegas
>openshot
>fl studio
>LMMS
>chrome canary
>chromium + widevine
>norton
>http://chart.av-comparatives.org/chart1.php
>a common user doesn't even need an antimalware program in GNU/Linux
>winrar
>Peazip
>uTorrent
>Transmission
cleartype is disgusting
I dont think windows will ever catch up to fontconfig or infinality, not even with shitty software like mactype
>>53648250
winrar and utorrent have better alternatives on both windows and linux, anti viruses are useless
>>53648900
Sumatra supports more PDF files than Adobe.
>>53648250
flstudio is gay if you are going to pull hte DAW card at least namedrop something halfway decent
lmao
>>53648424
Not a graphical designer nor producer, but I dabble in everything because it's fun. Making shitty art, shitty music, shitty models etc. Free alternatives or Linux compatible alternatives are usually sub-par.
>>53648250
Best bait so far
I tip my euphoric fedora to you good sir
Features promised but not delivered in Windows 10:
- package manager
- night mode/dark theme
- tons of features in Edge
- a store with real, high quality applications
- upgrade to W10 mobile for every windows 8 phone
"Features" they said would be disabled with the final release:
- letting users disable the "feedback" botnet
- letting users have control over windows update
>>53649608
A package manager would be sweet, but the Store can just fuck right off. Dark theme does exist, it only changes their new retarded thingy though. Edge is obsolete, please download Google Botnet or Mozilla Pocketfox.
>>53649608
topkek, lol casul "professional" users.
Enterprise has all those things you listed, excluding the package manager.
Even Windows Phone 10 Enterprise is a downloadable update from MSDN that works on all Nokia/HTC/Lenovo phones.
>>53647586
B O T N E T - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >
O Microsoft is part of NSA's mass surveillance program "PRISM":
T https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)
N
E Microsoft informs the NSA about bugs before fixing them:
T https://archive.is/OBGB1
|
| Microsoft openly offeres cloud data to support PRISM:
| https://archive.is/tW6fu
|
| Microsoft has backdoored its disk encryption:
| https://archive.is/2XIvX · https://archive.is/qLRZx
|
| Windows snoops on the users' files, text input, voice input,
| location, contacts, calendar records and web browsing history,
| even after related settings are turned off:
| https://archive.is/Zny36 · https://archive.is/sz1nt
| https://archive.is/g3QdQ · https://archive.is/ko469
|
| A Traffic Analysis of Windows 10:
|
| Keypoints: Windows 10 has a keylogger and uploads all your
| keystrokes every 5 minutes. Everything you type in Edge or
| Cortana is sent to Microsoft, along with any media files it
| finds. When webcam is enabled, 35MB of data goes to Microsoft.
| Even with Cortana disabled/uninstalled, Windows 10 sends all
| microphone audio to Microsoft, when the computer is idle.
| https://archive.is/QnTTA
| https://d2.maxfile.ro/rwspylwbwo.webm
| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDeHqiydk4A
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>>53649702
>Enterprise has all those things you listed
Except these?
- night mode/dark theme
- tons of features in Edge
- a store with real, high quality applications
Also even enterprise doesn't allow you to manually select updates or infinitely defer them
The shilling stops here
>>53649608
>package manager
it is there, it does the job. Linux package managers are still better.
>>53648250
>>available on Mac
>>Available on mac
>>Shit tier, migrate to something more powerful
>>botnet
>>not needed on literally any other ecosystem
>>not needed on literally any other ecosystem
>>seriously, just put clamav on a pfsense router
>>what is 7z
>>what are countless better alternatives
>>53649608
SSH when?
Support for filesystems that aren't straight out of the middle ages when??
Any single OS that has both working advantages of software on Windows and functionality on Linux so I can stop fucking dual booting WHEN
>>53649733
Does the screenshot thing stop if you disable all tracking features including telemetry?
>>53649856
Yes
>>53649824
>winfags are still waiting for native SSH
gee you'd think if linux and os x have it windows would get their shit together soon?
>>53649914
I'd hope so. They mentioned an implementation of openssh some time ago iirc but it never actually released.
>>53648250
none of these are particularly good, but I use the Autodesk suite a lot and am stuck on foobar2k.
Seriously though package manager when. Every time I play with Linux it's always the best feeling.
>>53649688
there is a (meta)package manager in Windows 10 called OneGet
>>53649863
Fuck, that's messed up. Are you sure? I don't have the feedback folder or anything, and that russian guy does say to turn off tracking features as a fix.
>2016
>still using shitdows.
>>53649517
I prefer to pirate adobe acrobat DC and be able to have every single pdf tool I can imagine including advanced OCR.
>>53647586
>I don't care about it.
Then don't run it. See you next thread.
>fresh windows install
>can't read pdfs
>can't ssh into my main machine
>gotta install wifi drivers too
>fresh linux/os x install
>no problems at all
makes me wonder why people unironically use windows for reasons other than games and visual studio
>>53647586
PortableApps.com
now kill yourself
>>53651121
>Using outdated hacked around software becasue Windows is the only OS on the market without package manager and install checksums.
>>53651213
>install checksums
>providing any security value whatsoever
those checksums totally mean that noone tampered with my Mint ISO....oh wait
>>53651331
>dumb distro maintainer doesn't know about HTTPS.
>something to do with repo checksums.
Back to /v/ kid.
Windows
>shit font rendering
>locked down customization due to updates - defaults look counterproductive
>any amount of work done towards trying to disable tracking is a waste of time
Linux
>some hardware still fails to work out of the box -- r9 280x in my case is a terrible performer with OSS drivers, doesn't work well with proprietary
>many distros to choose from, very few stable enough
>production software requires fiddling to get to work
implying I can do my work properly on any other OS
As opposed to what?
OS X?
>customization
>lel
Linux?
>have to tweak 6 Million™ other things instead
>>53652950
enjoy them icons and visual style breaking after an update
>>53649733
Where can I get this RSA decryptor?
>>53648250
From all that reasons only three are reasonable and even those has alternatives that works on linux:
>adobe
This may be the only good one that can't be replaced at the moment, but still, if you definitely need photoshop for your work it can be installed with wine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqgugAj69xw
>sony vegas
https://www.lwks.com/
>fl studio
http://www.bitwigbeats.com/top-10-reasons-to-switch-from-your-current-daw-to-bitwig-studio/
The other ones i'm tempted to think it's weak bait but i don't discard that you genuinely don't know better alternatives. Not telling you to install linux but your reasons for running windows for those who already are comfy with other OS are rather weak.
>>53653091
I've had them like this since last August or so and not once did I have to fix anything
I'm just using custom icons too, way too lazy and scared of bloat to ever get/create any custom styles
thanks for your concern though
>>53649753
does it solves dependencies? if not is more like a repository wich is not even promoted by default and that would help people to avoid getting tricked, don't get me wrong, i think it's a good step but microsoft should provide a way to get those apps in their store for the sake of the normal user.
>>53651331
the problem with the wordpress page was discovered precisely because the checksums and the isos was spread along a lot of different mirrors. In the distro the packages are signed with gpg so is not so easy to tamper them. But nice try boy.
>>53649566
>. Free alternatives or Linux compatible alternatives are usually sub-par.
That was true a few years ago but modern systems have really improved.
>>53649733
Would be nice for a english packet sniffer video. Was going to make one myself but don't have the time.
>>53650158
Sadly the auto windows updates keep bypassing the systems used to turn of telemetry, Spybot has been good at keeping themselves updated. Longest I have had telemetry on was for an hour.
>>53649856
It does until the next win update which includes bypasses. Spybot has been good at keeping updated though but people need to stop thinking it's off for good because microsoft are getting around it every so often.
>>53652950
There's professional cad tools available for linux:
https://www.bricsys.com/en_INTL/bricscad/editions/
http://cad.softwareinsider.com/compare/5-10/AutoCAD-vs-BricsCAD
You can install photoshop with wine
>>53653148
Maya is available on linux:
https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/maya/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Operating-system-compatibility-for-Autodesk-Maya.html
I don't know about the other tools but for rendering there's plenty of options:
http://alternativeto.net/software/artlantis-studio/
Not telling you to invest into learning new tools or to use linux but there's good options for a lot of the tools you're presenting, so probably someone using linux could do most of your work without problems even if the workflow is not the same.
>>53649566
I constantly see this. It's usually brought up in arguments over blender vs 3Ds max or gimp vs Photoshop. If you aren't a complete professional (and I mean years of experience, mastered the job your doing), open source alternatives will do the job. You don't need nor will you ever use or even know those complex features even exist in those proprietary software without such knowledge.
>>53653389
I'll try to share that post with my company and see if they are up for switching operating system and tools
in all seriousness though, sure, if you are really resiliant and willing to put up with shit - there are alternatives to everything, you can achieve anything you'd do in photoshop with gimp or ms paint on that matter because after all it's all just pixels and you can draw each of them individually without using any tools at al
you probably could design complex buildings in autocad (or any other cad software) but truth is no company uses autocad or any autocad clone anymore, the only reasons I have it is because some installation companies didn't get to upgrading yet and still stick with it (and Revit/Archciad DWG support lacks at times if the file was made in different software)
All that aside, sure you could draw complex forms and shapes manually, but I'm 99% positive none of the complex tools Revit has ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emMksB6NqSw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAFWuvHsedc ) are available on linux and without BIM that produces proper documentations replacements are useless, on top of that, good luck on tring to convince whole industry that the OS they use should be replaced and they all should learn how to use new tools and adopt to new software
it's not even imaginable and it's not a line of work that really allows you to be a freelancer
I've been on debian for a while on my private computer and with everything requiring constant attention I wouldn't be able to focus on work at all, as many of my co-workers I would imagine, I wouldn't trust wine perfermence and it's not my choice that photoshop is an indutry standard
as for maya, it's just an exception that overall means nothing, when I'm expected to work in large group on big project I can't just replace company's renderer with something random (that even if would get the job done is not what others are used to and that would require a lot of implementation-related work)
>>53653986
let me repeat again: i'm not telling you to change or learn anything, you raised good points in your original post but i wanted to highlight that there's alternative tools for a lot of the tools you showed.
If you need windows specific tools for work i'm not telling you to stop using them or to stop using windows or to convince any of your coworkers and i'm not saying that the tools you're showing are not the main ones the industry uses.
However the thing is that someone, as you say, that doesn't has specific needs like you has the option to use linux and do the same kind of work, maybe there's no tools for your field in particular and for people like you linux is not viable at all, but i showed some alternatives for those interested and each one will judge if they're useful for them.
>>53647586
>Using obscure Autohotkeys scripts to get basic desktop functionality like using a window on top.
meanwhile on linux, you have to use shady WMs made by single hobbyists and sketchy keybinding daemons to get full keybinding functionality. the most your DE will offer is limited key-.desktop file associations and a few built-in actions, like windows. same thing for OS X (karabiner, seil...)
>Using shady chromium based software to get tabs on the file explorer.
Okay, since everything not first party made by a fucking corporation shiny is "shady", all tabbed file explorers on linux are shady! EVERYTHING ON LINUX IS SHADY! And so is half the shit for OS X, because it's not even on the app store for violating apple's autistic rules.
>Constant pop-ups about software updates becasue there is no default package system.
A lot of good points have been made against the way linux systems do package management, most regarding the lack of separation between user software and the base system, so you can't issue an upgrade command for just one and risk pulling a bug or broken update in for the other - so you get systems that are either completely outdated, or completely new and maybe buggy. Those pop-ups are that separation between firefox and sudo that most serious OSes have (but not linux).
>Thinkering with Cleartype to get readable fonts.
On linux, you need to tinker with freetype for this. On OS X, you can't do shit except buy a high DPI monitor.
>Can't scroll taskbar icon to cycle through windows.
Alt+tab
>>53649553
your an idiot. i'm certified in analog, protools, recording session management, studio maintenance, and a bunch of other stuff and I can tell you FL Studio is a very very fine DAW. Workflow is great and it's super fast since it's written in assembly. Your a fucking dumb idiot
>>53653251
>the problem with the wordpress page was discovered precisely because the checksums and the isos was spread along a lot of different mirrors.
HOLD THE FUCKING PHONE. WHAT WORDPRESS PAGE? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THIS. TELL ME EVERYTHING.
>>53649688
>A package manager would be sweet, but the Store can just fuck right off.
Just use chocolatey.
>>53655785
>written in assembly
>that means it's fast
When will this meme die? A C/++ compiler is better at optimization than you could ever hope to be. Writing in assembly is pointless.
>>53654864
I really want to know about that keybinding meme, since i use keyboard shortcuts a lot on Ubuntu do i don't know about it.
>EVERYTHING ON LINUX IS SHADY
as shady or more than Windows "security" updates or telemetry?
>completely outdated, or completely new and maybe buggy
conviniently avoiding stable/LTS releases.
>separation between firefox and sudo
If UAC worked that would'n be the case and Windows is by far the most messy system when it comes to separation of software, appdata and registry are some examples.
>tinker with freetype
not the 90's anymore, at this point Windows can't even compete.
>Alt+tab
Works for all opened programs, not for the one program with multiple intances opened.
>>53648250
god damn windows toddlers are so fucking tech illiterate hahahaha
it hurts to read
