>I'd rather use some cheap shit made in China just because it has a Cisco logo on it instead of fine hardware made in Europe by MikroTik
Explain yourself.
>>53646814
I am not running a server farm
>>53646814
what kind of autist twist ethernet cables together?
And please tell me you don't have separate Rx and Tx cables for no reason.
>>53646814
Mikrotik is software only, it runs on the linux kernel; it can do everything, it's the ak47 of networking. That's the catch though, lots of things are faster if done 'in hardware' i.e what cisco, juniper do.
>>53646874
Those cables are called UTP cables, not ethernet cables. Ethernet is a layer 2 protocol.
>>53646814
>twisted fucking cables
>>53646874
using dual ethernet (2 NICs in your system) to increase speed.
what's wrong with doing that?
Low budget --> no fiber/shitty fiber
>>53646911
you're right, but everyone calls them Ethernet or even (much worse) LAN-cables
LAN can be anything (fiber, wireless, token-ring).
>>53646814
>I have no clue about enterprise networking
There I fixed it.
>>53646814
are you going to shill this brand every day now?
>>53646911
dat ending trips --> 9/11
>>53647023
>shill
Is this another leaked /pol/ meme?
When is that cancerous board finally going away?
>>53646814
>not trusting the japanese
Why the fuck is fibre still so expensive? What keeps inflating the cost?
>>53646963
I'm not saying it's wrong, but I'm 99% sure it's excessive.
The fiber is unlikely more than a gigabit, so I assume that having 2 gigabit ethernet ports would be excessive for most reasons and purposes.
>>53646911
If you want to be exact, not only this cable could be shielded (thus not UTP), but UTP is also just a generic name for a type of cabling.
>>53646814
Mikrotik is awesome their cloud core routers are amazing it's way better then edgemax-edgerouter stuff.
>>53646814
Europeans are fucking useless at everything. I would genuinely trust the Chinese more to build or structure something. I'm British so have had a fair bit of experience dealing with Europeans.
>>53647128
the optical properties of optic fibre are very demanding, especially f the fibre is to be used for multiplexed signals etc. This means that the materials used must be of very high quality, and hence the production cost is high.
Also, at present, the requirement for fibre is much less than for, say, copper cabling. Again this pushes up the price, as less manufacturers are competing, and there is less economy scaling.
>>53646988
>>53646911
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Ethernet_cables
then they might have to change this, considering most of students read from wikipedia.
>>53647053
as soon as /g/ actually learns about technology.
>>53646963
>not using 40 gigabit cables
>>53647179
So its a matter of people being unwilling to produce, say, 8gbps rated fibre and cheap(relatively speaking of course) switches to accompany them?
And I know there was a good reason for it, but can anyone remind me why copper standards like Thunderbolt arent being adopted for networking? Is it because they rely on the PCI-E bus? Or is it just a matter of Intel fucking around with its Intellectual Property as usual?
>>53647215
CAT7/8 is a fucking nightmare man. Fuck grounding cables.
>>53647146
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>>53647241
More so a matter of [spoiler] copper networking equipment is in place and people don't want to piss money away to get a 60 grand fabric switch when they have perfectly good and still operational copper shit. [/spoiler] shit's expensive as fuck.
>>53646963
Or they could populate those empty SFP+ cages with some direct attach cables.
>>53647294
Does that even work? What do they do, just pump MOAR MEGAHERTZ through the existing cables?
I imagine that would cause all kinds of noise problems.
>>53646814
> >I'd rather use some cheap shit made in China
That's Huawei.
>>53647314
Keep running it the way it is until they have to upgrade or some how someone convinces the higher ups at finances that they need it.
>>53647347
Yep, and typically you don't need fiber.
100Mbits is good enough for most users and a single cat6 cable can do 5-10Gbits.
So you only need fiber to your router and main switch, unless the business has high demands for some reason.
>>53647439
Don't forget running fiber to the server rooms.
>>53647439
>100Mbits is good enough...
Fuck, I wish we didnt live in a world where standards are based on whats "good enough".
I know its pretty unreasonable work above that consistently, but god damn I'm tired of slow AF thin clients attached using 10/100Mbps connections.
>>53646814
mikro mikro gud gud!
>>53646814
>fine hardware
>mikrotik
Please. Some time ago I seriously considered getting one of their gigabit L3 switches, but then I learned how they implemented link aggregation. In software, on a CPU which only has a single gigabit connection to the rest of the switch.
>>53648712
>lease. Some time ago I seriously considered getting one of their gigabit L3 switches, but then I learned how they implemented link aggregation. In software, on a CPU which only has a single gigabit connection to the rest of the switch.
The cloud core switches?
>>53648753
Yes, ccr-125-something, if I remember correctly.
>>53647161
>I'm British so have had a fair bit of experience dealing with Europeans.
I'm gonna bite...
I work for a company based in Luxembourg, and the worst of the worst are the British. When they're not being scammers and thieves, they demand unreasonable shit and act as if they're the queen.
>>53647343
That's a Mikrotik CCR (Cloud Core Router), ya dingus
>>53646988
No one has used token ring since the millenium, grandpa.
>>53648712
It's called bonding and it's meant for failover, shithead. If you want more throughput, use a SFP+ port.
>>53646874
i think it looks cute
>>53648935
Then why is it called Link Aggregation Control Protocol, faggot?
10G SFP is insanely expensive.
oh dog we relevant :DD
>>53646911
In the telco business we call them patch cables.
>>53649119
I didn't chrism the protocol.
And $30 for a direct attach cable, $200 for an SFP+ NIC
If you can't afford that, then you don't need more than 1Gb.
>>53649216
yeah, but I've heard telco techs refer to 8p8c modular connectors as rj-45 connectors.
RRREEEEEE and all that.
>>53649119
"aggregation" it balances what comes in, it doesn't give you another Gbit/sec extra it balances + failover
>>53649119
>>53646814
>braiding Ethernet cables
Who the fuck does this shit?
The shit is already twisted on the inside you twits, twisting the other cables will be negligible.
>>53646911
>I'm autistic
>>53646814
>I'd rather use shitty prebuilt routers instead of building an embedded box for less that does more using Based Software Distribution
these networking cucks and their silly assumptions
>>53649808
they told us in school not to do this. it negates some of the twist of the pairs, and can cause extra interference. and it looks retarded when you do it.
>>53647998
>thin clients on non-gigabit
if all you run is excel they're fine
>>53649956
>tfw you're too retarded to use BSD and just use pfsense
>tfw it just werks anyway
>>53646814
More like MicroDick. At least Cisco routers will never go obsolete.
>>53648796
I can confirm. Brits are the lowest scum in Europe. They are Uncle Sam's pawns. They can't do anything by themselves without asking Uncle Sam for permission.
So, if you want the Americans opinion on something European, better ask Brits.
>>53650009
> implying pfsense isn't BSD
on the real tho stay based friend. stay based
