>he fell for the "Linux is secure" meme
Nice autism
>>53646310
>53% unknown
>>53646348
>his OS doesn't even have mitigations
Even Windows has mitigations at this point, anon.
>>53646358
probably using their untracable zx80's
>>53646370
grsecurity, PaX
>>53646310
Every single Debian installation out there runs exim by default with no warning, what did you expect?
Debian: insecure by default.
>>53646310
I too make up pie charts and post them to see people argue over lies.
>>53646441
Every Windows 10 installation sends telemetry like crazy, without warning, what did you expect?
Windows: insecurity by default.
Unknown?
>>53646310
freetards will defend this
>>53646510
Normies will support this.
>>53646486
Nice red herring.
>>53646310
What does spamming have to do with security?
>>53646530
Those are most likely compromised hosts, brah.
>>53646524
s/red\ herring/refutation/
>>53646556
[citation needed]
>>53646575
OP's post need one, lad.
>>53646486
Windows is still more secure than most popular Linux distributions these days.
I don't use either, so I don't care.
>>53646561
>I don't know what the word "refutation" means
>>53646583
Reverse Google search, son.
>>53646575
>I don't know how spam works
>>53646585
The influx of Linux distros that don't value security as much may well be one aspect of the issue here.
>>53646603
>>I don't know how spam works
Then go read up on it.
Linux provides all these convenient command line mail tools that can be abused via unsecured websites or old database hosts. Had to deal with one or two myself, unfortunately.
>>53646585
>Windows is still more secure than most popular Linux distributions these days.
Nope.
>>53646603
>I know what the 'red herring' idiom means
>>53646612
It most certainly is, albeit a minor one.
The kernel and toolchain development model is the main issue. There's absolute no regard whatsoever for security.
>>53646603
>security
Not an excuse to not post a reference, lad.
>>53646636
It really is. Listen to someone who actually knows something about security.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXS8ljif9b8
>linux used for illegal activities
If it's secure enough for criminals it's secure enough for me
>>53646615
>being this retarded
>>53646636
Have I mentioned mitigations?
>>53646640
You're the chubby kid on the block who points at the fatter kid to excuse yourself. Definition of red herring. Linux sucks, try to "refute" that without mentioning Windows. PROTIP: you can't.
>>53646662
If you don't wanna believe it because it triggers you it's your problem, not mine.
>>53646655
The Linux kernel (and the distributions that rely on the kernel) may well up their security to some degree. However, it still beats the security through obscurity that closed source business models rely on by far.
>>53646310
>literally 12 year old pie chart
you're not even trying
>>53646688
Please reread Auguste Kerckhoffs' principle. Open source means publicly verifiable software, enabling independent code audits. Closed source deprives the world of this.
>>53646721
>>53646754
OpenBSDfag here. Stop lecturing us on open source when it's your kernel that accepts binary blobs and your kernel developers who sign NDAs with hardware vendors.
>>53646507
Those Colecos will rust up on you like *that*
>>53646780
I recognise your frustration, mate. But please, see this: https://www.debian.org/News/2010/20101215
>>53646310
Linux is insecure shit.
Running Linux on your server is basically asking to become part of the botnet.
>>53646915
poo in loo Rasheed
>>53646665
>It really is.
Nope.
>>53646688
>Have I mentioned mitigations?
I don't think you even knows what that means.
>>53646310
>Spammers
How does the make an OS insecure? you can spam from secure OS' fucktard.
>>53646310
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called Linux, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called Linux distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux!
>>53646688
>>being this retarded
Protip: 'Spam' are just regular emails or messages, any machine which can send emails can be turned to a spam host by just tricking a user to run a regular program - as their user, no exploits needed.
>>53646406
arent those two a set of patches
aka not turned on in mainstream distributions
>>53646879
God damn I was thinking of the same simpsons eoisode,ill go dig out the DVD set
>>53646310
Spam is not security.
N01c3 m3m3
>>53647863
>I've never set up an e-mail server in my life
>I don't know what SMTP relay is
>>53647100
>>53647863
Linuxtards too stupid to even understand.
These are Linux servers taken over by hackers who then use them to spam.
Linux is ridiculously easy to hack, no security.
>>53648971
s/relay/open\ relay/
>>53650149
>Linux
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Linux
>easy to hack
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Hacker
>>53646310
>2003
>>53646585
Is that why Google banned Windows from their PCs?
>>53650149
>Linux is ridiculously easy to hack, no security.
only if you're a braindead admin
niggers aren't getting past ssh keys only+UFW+fail2ban
>>53646879
>Super Nintendo Chalmers
>>53646310
>He fell for the winshit is secure meme
>>53650643
good thing in this case we aren't talking about the GNU userland, even though that has it's own set of problems due to astoundingly bad code
>>53646310
>he fell for the "resiliant to hackers" meme
>>53651028
>what are buffer overflows?
>what is a vulnerability?
>what are exploits?
>what happened to glibc a couple of months ago?
>what happened to openssl a couple of years ago?
>what are sane defaults?
I'm not even the hacker known as 4chan and I know all that.
>>53651823
>aw shit, someone brought up evidence of how linux is shit again...
>quick, mention windows! it will throw them off their scent!
BSDfag here, your tactic is futile
>>53653107
Someone needs to develop a Linux distribution free of any GNU code.
>>53653413
its a good thing the linux kernel developers patched all those glibc and openssl
exploits in the kernel.
>What you are referring to as Linux...
>>53646310
that is all the IRC bots exploiting windows hosts, silly
20 captchas later
thank you google for my shitpost
>>53653444
It exists.
It's called Alpine Linux and it's almost completely free of GNU code.
>>53653490
Linux is the only operating system which fell for the GNU meme. So yeah, Linux.
>inb4 GNU/Linux copypasta
>>53653539
Utter crap. Literally cannot get past installation.
>>53654604
Looks like your image is corrupted more than anything else.
I literally just downloaded it and it worked.
>>53654764
Just rechecked the SHA1 hash. I check the hashes/signatures routinely whenever I download software, just so you know.
Finally, a graph that show Linux dominance in the market place.
>>53646358
>>53646507
It's not always easy to fingerprint an OS.
>>53654856
>SHA1
https://sites.google.com/site/itstheshappening/
>>53646310
>spammers target servers because nobody takes email from residential IPs seriously anymore
>wonders why it's mostly Linux
>>53646441
>being server admin
>unaware of what services listen on different port numbers
>not setting up a default deny firewall
>>53646441
net install doesn't come with exim...
>>53653432
Kill yourself BSD cuck
>>53646310
> my anime collection must be protected
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
>>53646310
Most spammers are automated bots and run on a server
>>53653413
>what are jails
>what is PaX
>what is selinux/apparmor/grsecurity
>what is a firewall
>>53651823
You just proven that Linux core has 30% of vulnerabilities that whole line of Microsoft products does. Every Windows version is pretty much 10-times bigger project, so it must have had at least 14k vulnerabilities to be more insecure.
