Welcome to /flt/, we are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will literally work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
>Shell pasta:
The based GNU Bourne Again SHell:
https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/
The community driven BASH wiki:
http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Greg's (also known as GreyCat's) wiki:
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls
SED and AWK; your new best friends:
http://www.pement.org/sed/sed1line.txt
http://www.pement.org/awk/awk1line.txt
Google's Shell Style Guide:
https://google.github.io/styleguide/shell.xml
The Linux Command Line - A Book By William Shotts:
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
Interesting, useful and dangerous one-liners:
http://www.commandlinefu.com/
Great online (and offline) linting tool:
http://www.shellcheck.net/
Know what you are doing:
http://explainshell.com/
>debian can't run .deb files by default
>modern
>"no good games are on Linux"
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https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/13449491/XCOM.2.Linux-ACTiVATED
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/10343056/Sid_Meiers_Civilization_V_Complete_Edition_Linux-Razor1911
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/12655561/Sid_Meier_s_Civilization__Beyond_Earth_1.0.2.666_LINUX
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/9240828/[Linux]_Old_Ported_Games_Collection
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/11746050/Hotline_Miami_2_(Linux)_(GOG)_
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/10630981/GOG_Uplink_for_Linux
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/8030737/Linux_games_bundle
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/12741688/Baldur_s_Gate_The_Original_Saga_-_LINUX_-_GOG
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/12749411/Baldur_s_Gate_2_Complete_-_LINUX_-_GOG
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/3299227/Soldier_Of_Fortune_For_Linux_FULL_ISO
https://thepiratebay .se/torrent/3301607/Descent_3_Linux_ISOs
>>53622520
it can, prove me otherwise.
Is there any way to export a variable to the current session as if it existed in your .profile file when you logged in without well... putting it in there and relogging? Seems weird this one is actually easy as fuck on Windows but doesn't seem possible on linux. How the hell do you set a new session variable.
>Filepicker pasta:
Tippers:
https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/jkisielewicz/gtk2-filepicker-iconview/
Amazuntu:
https://launchpad.net/~helkaluin/+archive/ubuntu/gtk2-filechooser-iconview
Arsch Linux:
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/gtk2-patched-filechooser-icon-view/
Absolute Madmen:
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/01213036b58e510dc074
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka/49c1d0eea4b64f24c4c7
>>53622558
could you specify what you are trying to do? usually DEs handle sessions so please include which one you use.
>>53622558
You source the profile file again. For Bash:source "your file". No idea for zsh, since you mentioned zprofile in the previous thread.
>>53622569
That only works for the terminal you source it in and all child processes, not for the session as a whole.
>>53622567
i3
>>53622558
>>53622569
Or you could just run the export command from a shell if you want to use it for this session only (it will be forgotten after logging our or rebooting).
>>53622561
>not availbale for ubuntu version 15
fucking useless piece of shit
>>53622580
I'm using it to fix my libreoffice theme issue, variable forces it to use gtk2, so unless I want to launch libreoffice by exporting first every single time until I reboot (could be weeks) I'm fucked.
retard here:
been playing about with ubuntu and an application called aptik for backing up configs and shit.
When it lets me chose a folder for backups I chose home/backups/ and create the files. When I try and find them afterwards there is no folder in nautilus under /home/, it's in /root/ instead.
What the fuck am i missing in terms of folder structures?
>>53622589
put it in /home/username/backup or short ~/backup/
>>53622588
Try editing the /etc/profile.d/libreoffice-fresh.sh file and uncommenting the desired GUI toolkit.
>>53622622
Oh nice, that's far better than loading it in .profile files.
Still interested if what I asked could be done though, sometimes you just really want to do that.
>>53622622
>>53622635
Annnnd it didn't work. It's the correct variable but it's not being read on libreoffice start.
first time having this problem and i couldnt find anything online, i might have not been searching for the right thing. But everytime i go through my bash history by pressing up one command will stay in the terminal and subsequent times i press up will append onto the end of that command. The stuck command wont execute though so whatever i try to run is still functional. This stays until i reset the terminal or open a new one up. It could have something to do with my PS1 but im not sure, any ideas?
Will this work on any Ubuntu based distro or will it fuck my shit up? https://launchpad.net/~tigerite/+archive/ubuntu/mint-xorg-update
I'm having the graphics issues that update is supposed to solve but I can't find anywhere if it's lethal on anything other than Mint.
Anyone find a way to run office 2013 in Linux? I need it for compatibility reasons
>>53622575
$mod+shift+c
reloads your configuration file
>>53622680
Does that reload profile files though?
>>53622657
what issues do you have?
>>53622668
some dude showed it running in WINE recently so it should work. otherwise run it in a VM, it's not like office is especially demanding or something.
>just want to set up system as I want it and have it werk for a long time
Ubuntu 16 LTS?
>>53622622
>>53622644
Ohhh I'm an idiot, this is just part of a larger profile file so it isn't sourced yet. I thought it was read when opening libreoffice.
>>53622700
Screen tearing when I move the cursor to the edges of the screen.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1288734
will this shitass bug ever get fixed goddamn
>>53622726
which DE, which GPU and which compositor? maybe you can fix it with compton.
>>53622732
is this also present when the thing is unplugged? i had something similar on a very old laptop of mine.
Hey ubuntu anon from an hour ago or something here.
Somehow ubuntu didn't want to partition muh harddrive then and I just went full botnet again.
Why can't linux just work? There are always some problems. No normal person wants to deal with that shit
>>53622747
plugged or unplugged same shit, used to just be when unplugged and then I fixed it by disabling power saving but now it's there for both, some update rekt it
>>53622763
Works on my machine(tm).
Works on many machines(tm).
PEBCAK.
>>53622763
That wallpaper needs more JPG and upscaling.
>>53622774
It works on muh T420 flawless, too. But I do always have problems on any desktop I try to install linux on. This shit sucks.
There will never be the year of the linux desktop
>>53622739
Elementary on a SP4 using reeps 4.3.0 kernel for the SP3/4.
By compositor so you mean Mutter(Gala)?
>>53622763
it does, you probably just didn't know how something works and tried to do it the windows way and gave up right after because GNU/Linux is not windows.
for me windows always had more problems, problems that were actually related to windows and not to me.
>>53622796
>tried to do it the windows way
what's the windows way? using a installer that works?
No fuck you, m8. I've been using linux for like 6-8 years now on my laptop. Everything works flawless, but I just don't want to deal hours with fuckin problems.
>>53622766
sounds like an issue with power saving and not with alsa. what power saving programs do you use?
>>53622796
Linux installers can actually fuck up
>>53622811
Literally none because any power saving makes shit fuck up even harder, now at least my laptop speakers work like they should
glad i bought a big battery
>>53622763
Don't worry bro. I just had the most confusing time of my life trying to get Elementary OS to work on my Surface. I finally got it under control and it feels pretty good.
>>53622763
Play around with that shit in a VM mang.
I'm currently playing around and practicing troubleshooting and restoring a fucked system just in case.
>>53622812
beta installers especially, but the opensuse installer and the debian installer for example are pretty rock solid, especially compared to the windows 10 installer with the notorious "something happened".
>>53622827
>Elementary OS to work on my Surface
only the dead can know peace from this evil. I'm impressed.
thunar crashes when I try to copy/cut and paste multiple files simultaneously. Anyone else have the problem???
>>53622840
I know there is a precompiled Mint ISO for the SP4 but I really didn't want to use Mint... I almost gave up in the end too. None of the stupid fixes were working and there's so little documentation since this is new and complicated hardware.
Maybe this is the wrong pace to post this...
I have Antergos running on a old Acer Veriton I got from the tip shop. I'm having trouble connecting to the internet via ethernet and I believe this is because of a permission issue between the computer and the modem. When I input:
'ip link set ens33 up'
(systemd rename of 'eth0' I believe) The response I get is:
'RTNETLINK answers: Operation not permitted.
Doing so via sudo warrants no response. I am having essentially the same issue trying to connect manually through dhcpcd. At what point do I an hero?
>>53622807
How have you been using computers that long and not know how to partition a harddrive
>>53622793
There is no reason to use Elementary O's whatsoever. Why would you use a distribution based on a distribution based on a distribution? Their desktop environment is immature and suffering from bugs other environments have long squashed.
Install Xfce, install Plank. There, you have a functional Elementary O's.
>>53622859
i suppose you are pretty new to this? otherwise i would have actually recommended arch for this since you need a very recent kernel version and obscure fixes which is basically the main reason to ever use arch. microsoft really made it hard to get this to work with other OS.
>>53622890
Do you have the same opinion about Linux Mint?
>>53622852
That might be a known bug. It seems to crash during renaming too. There's a patch and I think it was merged upstream, but a new Thunar version hasn't been released yet. Search the Arch forums, there's a thread with links to the bug report and patch.
>>53622869
dhcpcd ens33
yielded no results?
>>53622900
I did a quick googling prior and I can see people having the exact problem almost a year ago. Is it normal for bugs in linux programs take this long to be fixed?
>>53622940
no, but for things like xfce with very little amounts of developers and a huge project it might take some time. especially if the bug is hard to reproduce like in your case.
>>53622890
>>53622897
I wanted something close enough to Ubuntu or Mint so that I could follow along with the already existing documentation for the SP4. Right now it's in a usable state and the biggest issue are slow wifi and the screen glitching/tearing. Other than that, I got Grub to behave Windows survived the install and the Type cover works!
I've used Ubuntu, Mint, Small Damn Linux and Arch(Only Antergos, that was a horrible experience) before.But yeah, I am still very new to Linux in general.
>>53622869
Which device do you have? Do lspci.
>>53622935
Response to 'dhcpcd ens33'
open '/run/dhcpcd-ens33.pid':Permission denied
ens33: adding address [something remniscient of a MAC address, e.g "fe80: :82......"]
if_addaddress6: Operation not permitted
Cannot write to /run/resolvconf/lock
ens33: if_up: Operation not permitted
ens33: witing for carrier
timed out
dhcpcd exited
>>53622971
I'm a tad novice so correct me if wrong, but I believe you mean in regards to the ethernet controller - lspci response is as follows:
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
>>53623063
Do lspci -v and see if the driver is loaded and working just in case.
Do you have anything else managing your network? Like Network Manager. I think those might conflict. I had issues when I had dhcpcd and NetworkManager services enabled at the same time.
>>53622869
Also:
>Doing so via sudo warrants no response
If it succeeds, nothing gets printed to stdout in my case. Looks like that's normal behaviour.
>>53623129
Response to lspci -v reveals the following:
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
Subsystem:Elitegroup Computer Systems RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
Physical Slot: 33
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 26
I/O ports at d800 [size=256]
Memory at feaff000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4k]
Expansion ROM at feac0000 [disabled] [size 128K]
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernal driver in use: r8169
Kernal modules: r8169
Experimenting with network manager and dhcpcd has not warranted a solution yet.
>>53623159
Ethernet is still 'no network connection', but it's entirely possible I'm missing something.
>>53622535
Razor1911 is a fucking legend!!
How can I format a hard drive to be fat32?
>>53623268
Where are you getting that "no network connection" reading from?
Check withsystemctlif you have NetworkManager and dhcpcd running at the same time. If you have and they're both enabled at boot time, try disabling one and rebooting (no idea if manually stopping one with "systemctl stop" will fix it).
The issue you're having area really weird. Usually it's the wireless devices causing trouble.
>>53623349
https://searx.me/?q=linux%20format%20a%20hard%20drive%20to%20fat32&categories=general
>>53623330
are
>>53623349
mkfs.vfat
>>53623349
There should be thousands of guides on your search engine of choice, help vampire.
>>53623361
For lack of a better name, the 'network connection icon' which can be placed in toolbar - this is where I am getting the 'no network connection from'. Specifically, when I left-click it, it is titled 'ethernet network' and underneath reads 'disconnected'.
To summarise the systemctl response to the relevant information:
the [email protected] is highlighted red. Where other entries read 'loaded, active, running', it reads 'loaded(white) failed(red) failed (red).
Network Manager is running 'loaded, active, running'.
I will attempt to disable dhcpcd and report back with results.
I have a small problem.
I'm using elementary os and for some reason when i use a picture that isn't on the system settings background list it shows up in there. I go into the background folder to see if I can delete them and they're not there. I checked to see if they were hidden and they were not.
But when I try to go and choose a custom location for it and go back into the source folder the pictures that are not showing up are there.
What do I do?
>>53623466
>opera
90ies called they want their browser back
>>53622763
you should go into a bootable usb and use gparted to partition a drive. you can't partition a mounted drive.
>>53623361
So, I ran 'systemctl disable dhcpcd.service' and rebooted to no avail. Was this the correct thing to do?
>>53623489
>90ies
>ninetieies
>>53623531
Yes, that's how you disable them.
>>53623464
Red means something failed for it. You can check the output with systemctl status [email protected]. Try right clicking on that icon in the taskbar and going to "edit connection". See if "automatically connect to this network when avaiable is" checked and if under IPv4 Settings "Method" is set to Automatic (DHCP).
>antergos or manjaro or any arch install scripts
See, that's why you should always install it manually, so you know exactly what has been done and "fucked up".
>>53623531
iirc disable means it wont autostart with the system. So if you rebooted it, it should not have started
>>53623590
Firstly thank-you and everyone else who has provided help on this issue.
'systemctl status [email protected] -l' reveals:
* [email protected] - dhcpcd on ens 33
Loaded" loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/[email protected]; enabled; vendor preset: disabled)
Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since [date & time of boot]
Process:258ExecStart=/usr/bin/dhcpcd -q -w %I (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
cpu systemd [1]: Starting dhcpcd on ens33...
cpu dhcpcd[258]: ens33: waiting for carrier
cpu dhcpcd[258]: timed out
cpu systemd[1] [email protected]: Control process exited, code=exited status=1
cpu systemd[1] Failed to start dhcpcd on ens33
cpu systemd[1] [email protected]: Unit entered failed state.
cpu systemd[1] [email protected]: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
>>53623605
Interesting. So does this mean that on reboot, if dhcpcd.service is disabled, NetworkManager should be able to sort out the ethernet connection, or is there a further step I'm required to take?
In ffmpeg when I try to convert a file to webm and specify a file size the video get caught before it all get converted.
How do I go around it?
What's a good OS variant for first timer
I've heard bad things about Ubuntu.
Heard good things about Gentoo but I read it's for 'advanced users'
>>53623787
>>53623801
xubuntu, make sure not to expect it to be similar to windows. it's not.
>>53623811
I don't necessarily need light OS, I have power enough in my PC
>>53623801
Korora
>>53623801
debian
>>53623816
me too, xfce is just comfy. otherwise get ubuntu gnome or something.
>>53623590
>install scripts
You're right, it would help. However it should be noted that I did not have this issue at my old property where I had an ADSL2+ connection. I've recently moved house, and my new plan is a fiber connection - so I'm getting the vibe I may just need a reinstall, as I have no idea how to import and install drivers from an external drive with antergos just yet.
Can anyone recommend me a file manager that works? Pretty much all file manager's I've tried crashes or is too limited in functionality
>>53623877
ranger, nautilus, Thunar (for most people), gentoo (literally)
>>53623920
I found nautilus too limited and thunar just out right crashes too often. The only thing preventing me from fully committing to ranger is the ability to automount/unmount mtp devices. Any suggestions?
>>53623877
ranger and thunar work for me
>>53623936
Dolphin, Ranger
Antergos anon here
>Cannot re-install antergos without an internet connection
>USB-boot doesn't recognise ethernet connection either.
well that sucks.
>>53623959
Does normal arch work?
>>53623787
that's what ffmpeg's filesize limit is meant to do
literally "keep encoding until this file size is met, then stop"
what you're trying to do if fit the whole source into a file of x size, in that case you need to calculate appropriate stream bitrates that will result in a specific output size, and use those
>>53623970
I haven't tried an arch install since I've moved in, so I couldn't tell you.
>>53623778
>So does this mean that on reboot, if dhcpcd.service is disabled, NetworkManager should be able to sort out the ethernet connection, or is there a further step I'm required to take?
Yes. As long as your computer is connected to a router with dhcp enabled, it should work automatically. Having two services, Network Manager and dhcpcd running to do the same job (leasing IPs via dhcp) causes issues (according to the Arch Wiki).
How do I get virtualbox to display in 1080?
>Why I prefer GNU/Linux to windows
>>53621010
-System wide update under 5 minutes, no forced reboots
-Having a package manager that actually syncs with the core system
-Live patching
-Changing themes and icon pack system wide with full integration
-Running on ARM and PPC
-Bash
-Recognising anything but NTFS and FAT natively. NTFS is fragmantetation prone garbage and FAT is an old burden that cannot support big files
-Global hotkey management panel
-Defining panel height by the exact pixels
-System wide UI color management utility
-Font configuration panel
-Ability to browse folders without having to open a file manager or terminal UI (KDE feature). Split file manager.
-Tabs on file manager
-Modularity and Choice of Desktop Environments (ability to pick and keep only features you need)
-Boot into a live environment
-Run entirely on memory
-MIME types, not having to rely on file extensions
-Not relying upon obsolete idea of Memory preserve (svchost)
-Flexible Boot manager
-Not bothering with unreliable, forced update timesink patches on startup (loop of update failure)
-Informative error message
-Not being a beta tester because no more service packs
-UI consistency
-Lastly, no spyware
>>53624262
>System wide update under 5 minutes, no forced reboots
This is so good. Why does windows take 30-60 minutes to install shit, let alone download it.
>Busting Windows 10 myths
There seems to be a good number of myths which are spread on pro-Microsoft forums and websites and I want to take a bit of your time to debunk them.
>>Windows 10 is more secure than any previous version of Windows
Um, sorry, this is pure BS. Windows 10 offers exactly zero new protection mechanisms to the end user vs. Windows 7. I haven't forgotten that Windows 8/10 apps run a sandbox and they are all verified by Microsoft, that's true, but most of them are made purely for content consumption (so they won't cut it for power users), besides people will still download executables from the Internet and run them relentlessly. Normally you should never run Windows without a decent antivirus installed (Microsoft Security Essentials is not an AV your can rely on, in fact you're crazy if you believe it protects you). Head to av-comparatives and check out their real world tests to see what's best for you. According to various AV comparisons MS Secruity Essentials misses over 10% of in-the-wild viruses (i.e. over five hundred new viruses every day).
The truth is there are some new security features but they are invisible for most users out there.
>>Windows 10 is a more modern OS
Hey, what does it mean it's more modern? How exactly do Windows 7 and 8 differ from Windows 10? This is yet another BS claim from the Microsoft fanboys. DirectX 12? There are just two games being developed for DX12 right now. 99.99% of the games which are being published at the moment will be DirectX 9/11 games so your Windows 7/8 system will perfectly run them. Of, course there's the Universal Windows Platform but if you're not into Metro apps it means nothing to you.
>>Windows 10 is faster
According to this, this and this there's no discernible difference between Windows 7, 8 and 10. Windows 10 features an improved memory handling for certain multithreaded applications like WinRAR but most other applications have the same performance.
"I have installed Windows 10 and it feels faster", right, like with every Windows release it feels fast when you install it from scratch. Then, strangely, it slows down significantly.
I have nothing to hide - let them track me!
Robin Doherty has a nice piece on this issue: "Why privacy is important, and having "nothing to hide" is irrelevant". Also you might want to read about the implications of real life surveillance.
Here's an insightful comment I cannot agree more with:
"Microsoft has given themselves the right to do remote administration and data gathering ... and for all but the ones which can select Security, they'll do it in such a way that they can personally identify you. Oh, and apparently they'll gather some of your documents as well. No fucking way we can trust them with this, because as soon as they have the ability to tell your computer to package up some data and send it to them, some asshole in law enforcement is going to demand they misuse it. And don't say they won't, because that's exactly the kind of shit law enforcement and the security agencies are doing. No way they won't show up with an NSL demanding information and forbidding Microsoft from admitting to it."
I have NTFS disk that's not partitioned, it's just one disc. Do I need to make partition with Disk Management Tool (Wangblows) so that Lenux/GNU of my choice understands to install to it?
Can I install it to a 20GB partition or something and if I like it just wipe the wangblows shit away while testing GEntoo DEbian Xubuntu?
>Windows only gets attacked most because it's such a big target, and if Linux use (or indeed OS X use) grew then so would the number of attacks.
When it comes to web servers, the biggest target is Apache, the Internet's server of choice. Attacks on Apache are nevertheless far fewer in number, and cause less damage. And in some case Apache-related attacks have the most serious effect on Windows machines. Attacks are of course aimed at Windows because of the numbers of users, but its design makes it a much easier target, and much easier for an attack to wreak havoc. Windows' widespread (and often unnecessary) use of features such as RPC meanwhile adds vulnerabilities that really need not be there. Linux's design is not vulnerable in the same ways, and no matter how successful it eventually becomes it simply cannot experience attacks to similar levels, inflicting similar levels of damage, to Windows.
>Open Source Software is inherently dangerous because its source code is widely available, whereas Windows 'blueprints' are carefully guarded by Microsoft.
This 'inherent danger' clearly has not manifested itself in terms of actual attacks. Windows-specific viruses, Trojans, worms and malicious programs exist in huge numbers, so if one gives any credence at all to this claim, one would do better to phrase it 'Open Source Software ought to be more dangerous'. But the claim itself hinges on the view - rejected by reputable security professionals - that obscurity aids security. Obscurity/secrecy can also make it more difficult for the vendors themselves to identify vulnerabilities in their own products, and can lead to security issues being neglected because they are not widely-known. The Open Source model, on the other hand, facilitates widespread review and makes it easier to identify and correct flaws. Modular design principles support this, while the overall approach is far more in line with security industry thinking than is 'security through obscurity.'
>>53624326
Thanks for your time. /flt/.
Bye
>>53622274
>It's in debians for a long time now abd gets updates with a minimum delay. Other repo maintainers need to step their game up.
Is it? It doesn't show on packages.debian.org.
For those wondering but can't be bothered opening the old thread, I asked "when is Deadbeef ever going to be deemed not shit enough to be put in any major distribution's repos?"
>>53624314
leave it unallocated, your installer will detect it and be able to install it there.
What are the chances of actually getting a virus on linux. Or malicious software of any kind. I mean I'm having a hard time thinking of a situation where I don't just run some script I see but don't understand online somewhere like 4chinz but is there another way?
>>53624412
Oh okay thanks that's neat. I think I will try out Debian first.
>>53624337
Friend, I think anyone who's worth their weight in piss has already learned that FLOSS is the true path.
>>53624414
maybe if you run WINE or your repository gets hijacked. if you use your system normally it's almost impossible.
>>53624414
>What are the chances of actually getting a virus on linux. Or malicious software of any kind.
Very low.
>is there another way?
You could run an infected program in WINE. The virus probably won't run correctly, but it could still do some damage.
>>53624434
>>53624436
Double whammy WINE hivemind.
Won't that only damage the Windows system though? I mean I KNOW it can technically hit your main filesystem but the odds of finding a virus for windows designed to attack linux because it expects wine must be 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000
>>53624414
https://regmedia.co.uk/2004/10/22/security_report_windows_vs_linux.pdf
>>53624414
hackers dont need to infect you with a virus because you need a phd in computer science memes to shut all the wide open system access points available to the average script kiddie.
>>53624231
virtualbox-guest-utils
>>53624453
What.
>>53624450
>Won't that only damage the Windows system though?
Suppose a virus tries to delete all the files in the current directory, or encrypt the contents of your "My Documents" folder (which is probably mapped to ~). The virus doesn't need to run properly just to give you a really bad day.
Is KVM faster than virtualbox?
Can I open another terminal when I open a file with vim or do I have to do that myself?
>>53624489
No
VMWare>VirtualBox>QEMU
>>53624478
You can't jail WINE?
If I want to format a hard drive to be compatible in a dual boot with Windows what is the best option?
>>53624414
Low, but certainly not impossible. You never know where a serious vulnerability could pop up, so just make sure to keep your system updated. "Common sense" goes a long way, but don't get complacent just because you're in your penguin fortress. Stay wary.
>>53624434
>or your repository gets hijacked
Has this ever happened to a notable distribution's repository? I'm not saying it couldn't theoretically happen, obviously, but I've never heard of it.
>>53624450
Doesn't WINE mount $HOME or whatever as Z:\ by default? Couldn't ransomware potentially do its thing?
>>53624505
What.
This is supposed to be friendly.
>>53624509
I guess you could. I've never tried.
>>53624513
>Doesn't WINE mount $HOME or whatever as Z:\ by default? Couldn't ransomware potentially do its thing?
Yeah maybe, so unmount it? Why does it even need to mount that.
>>53624520
What do you find unfriendly, anon?
>>53624539
Lies.
>>53624512
Don't. Run linux on another machine, if you can.
>>53624530
User friendliness or some such, I imagine. I've never heard or seen any serious talks of any security implications of WINE, but surely the topic has been breached at some point. Could be worth looking out for for anyone who uses WINE a lot.
I've myself been considering setting up Steam on a different user. While at it, doing WINE stuff on that user might perhaps be a good idea as well. I've yet to delve into it, but I gather that user could share the normal user's X session by use of xhost.
>>53624552
I meant for a separate hard drive that both would access
>>53624489
yes
>>53624512
No need to do anything special. Most distributions' installers will note that Windows is installed and give you an option to resize any NTFS partitions to keep it.
>>53624582
I'm >>53624587. Oh. Just chuck NTFS at it like normal, I suppose. There's not a lot of Windows support for non-Microsoft-involved file systems.
>>53624582
Oh. My reading comprehension is shit today.
I don't know what the state of NTFS under nix is now.. used to be limited to read only.
Seems to me you could use ext3/4 and use a Windows driver for it.
This will sound stupid but I hate the look of most Linuxes (be it Debian, Ubuntu, whatnot), they look like taken out of children's coloring book.
My favorite theme of all time was Windows 8.1 Classic Theme.
Are there designs like that, hard and simple and how troublesome it is to make one such
>>53624608
NTFS driver is stable and has been for quite some time. Long gone are the days where trying to write to an NTFS file system would make your day sad.
Actually, how long has it been? Must be around a decade at least.
>>53624600
Writing to NTFS is so gay with linux though.
>>53624626
I'd say "less volatile", not "stable". At least there's lower chance that it kills the entire volume, but chkdsk had to fix it for me anyways.
>>53624626
>decade
Yeah, it's been a while for me. Being around Windows.
>>53624616
just use a theme and get on with it. KDE looks like windows 8
>>53624459
Won't insert.
>>53624651
No, KDE doesn't look like shit and only has one control panel \ system settings \ whatever, unless you're using openSUSE.
>>53624587
>>53624600
When trying to format it to NTFS I am given an error exceeds the partition maximum.
>>53624616
The look of linux is separate from the distro;
It's the Window Manager's job, and they can all be themed.
Well, most.
>>53624669
are you formating under Linux or Windows?
>>53624694
Under Linux at the moment
>>53624631
In the sense that it fucks up file permissions and having to live with NTFS in general, yeah, I agree. I never did any partition sharing back when I dual booted partially for this reason. For those who want or need it, though, there's sadly not much choice.
I guess you could connect an HDD to a Raspberry Pi and just use it as a network drive if maximum read and write speeds aren't of the essence.
>>53624642
I've never heard of anyone having issues with it on this side of 2010, but sure, it's not like I keep my eyes peeled on the subject. Never had any issues myself but obviously my experience is limited to the occasional «mount an NTFS partition to chuck over some files I want to use in Windows». No extensive use. I do have a couple of friends who use NTFS for media and haven't heard anything from them either. Not conclusive, of course.
>>53624647
I shouldn't make myself out to be older than I am. NTFS was already regarded usable when I started using Linux seriously (08-09).
>>53624710
>In the sense that it fucks up file permissions and having to live with NTFS in general, yeah, I agree.
That and more so the fact that it starts fragmenting to buggery because NTFS is a shit system which doesn't handle fragmentation itself instead relying on Windows to feed it with a bottle to get it big and strong again.
>>53624707
are you using fdisk/cfdisk and mkntfs?
not much to go on
>>53624739
I tried using Gparted and Disks
>>53624814
Do they even support NTFS?
>>53624832
As it was an option I assume so
>>53624832
gparted is just a frontend for parted, parted supports ntfs
It's probably just me, but the idea of using a GUI to partition and format drives gives me hives.
>>53624861
Eh it sort of makes sense. You could argue it's safer because it's clearer.
I'm going to install gentoo, what should I expect? I also want to install apache and make it a webserver.
>>53624934
Why would you install gentoo if you don't know what to expect.
>>53624944
because anon said funtoo and Freedom™ is the only way out of the botnet :^)
>>53624861
I always use gparted, it really helps to have a visual representation of what is going to happen to my drives before I confirm. It even saved me once, almost wiped some important stuff one day.
How do you install virtualbox guest additions? It won't run even with the disc inserted and everything.
Hi.Im a windows user who really wants to make the switch to Linux and have chosen Manjaro as the one.Have some dumb questions though.If I don't have neither USB or cddrive,but have the iso,can I go to windows settings->Advanced startup,and when it reboots,install the iso from my hard drive?
>>53625059
>no USB or CD
what computer do you use?
>>53625078
my guess is it's a tablet
Can anyone help me troubleshoot an issue I have with wpa_supplicant?
>>53625148
not until you tell us what the issue is
>>53625162
I can use the scan command just fine, scan_results returns a list of networks, everything as expected.
But when connecting to one of those networks via WPS (in order to obtain access details) it fails, saying:
nl80211: Scan trigger failed: ret=-22 (Invalid argument)
It then keeps retrying every second, giving the same error each time. (Also see http://pastebin.com/L4f3ucBb for debug output.)
I have no idea why it comes up with this, I haven't been able to figure out the "invalid argument". Hell, I don't even know why it scans if it just has to WPS connect to an AP.
>>53624991
It should be in your repos.
>>53625228
I didn't know wpa_supplicant handled connections. I use it as an intermediate layer handling encryption only, using ifconfig and dhcpcd as normal.
>>53625308
I'm using this (probably slightly modified) version: https://bitbucket.org/memahaxx/drc-hostap/src/6b2b8cab62cb20ab75c2d3131525bbf39bb3adb5/wpa_supplicant/?at=master
But yeah it's really niche and it's only been verified to work with ath9k, ath9k_htc, and rt2800usb drivers. I'm using a proprietary broadcom driver, so I guess I'm likely shit out of luck?
>>53625343
well, the README for that says Broadcom's driver is called 'roboswitch'
so, call up wpa_supplicant with '-Droboswitch' as an option. maybe.
>>53625390
>unsupported driver 'roboswitch'
I also double-checked, and the driver in use is cfg80211, so that should work with -Dnl80211 which I've been using.
Goys my laptop sound not working. I got ubuntu 14.04.3. Any ideas what do?
>>53625524
alsamixer for alsa, pavucontrol in case you need to use pulseaudio. does your laptop have hotkeys to mute stuff?
>>53625059
No, sorry.
I don't understand why you don't have USB. Do you know what USB is? Any device should have AT LEAST one port.
>>53625524
Do you have speakers?
>>53624934
A waste of your time. If you're not autistic gentoo is a pain to use.
Guys, I can´t log in in Debian using my Login Manager. Using Ctrl+Alt+F1, logging in and typing startx gives me the DE with everything working.
However, if I try to log in using the login manager, the screen goes black as soon as I press enter, then restarts the login manager in 2 seconds, asking for me to login again. No matter how many types I type my password and press enter, it always go black and return to the login screen.
How can I solve of this? Is there any way to 'restart' my login manager settings? I´m using Debian Jessie with GNOME.
>>53625785
did you accidentally select wayland in gdm?
>>53626074
No, I didn't. This started to happen after I tried to install Torch on Debian.
Hey /flt/, this is more likely a windows related question, but since I don't want to get meme'd by neo /g/, I'm asking here:
Who knows more about botnet histroy?
The situation:
From time to time, I enjoy running Windows 2000,98,95 etc in virtualbox for nostalgia reasons, but I don't know if I should give it network access.
Is there a Windows version without botnet, or better: Since which Windows version the botnet is included and phoning home? How secure is virtuablbox in general?
>>53626282
Forgot to add, the host is Debian.
>>53626282
from what i heard windows XP was the first version to phone home. it was also the first with 3rd party privacy tool.
>>53625785
have you tried it with other displaymanagers?
>>53626299
No, I haven't. Won't installing another DM over GNOME's DM break things?
>>53626386
Switch tty
systemctl stop gdm
systemctl start gdm
Go back and see if it works. Also if you've installed another DM you can start it instead of gdm and see if it works
>>53626386
No. Just disable GDM and enable your new one.
mpv https://ia801308.us.archive.org/34/items/CompromiseInFreeSoftware/CompromiseInFreeSoftware-720.mp4
Quick question:
I've never actually put /boot on its own partition before; does it go before or after / in the fstab file?
>>53626556
/boot is after / in my fstab which was generated automatically.
>>53626549
I never heard Stallman speak before... wow
>>53626671
>>I never heard Stallman speak before... wow
welcome to /g/ anon, enjoy your stay.
https://archive.org/details/M00GNU :D
>>53626690
>yfw I've been lurking on /g/ for five years already
>>53626671
Really nigga?
Debian or Gentoo for a first timer trying out?
>>53626768
debian
>>53626768
Gentoo, you'll learn how your computer really works.
>>53626779
>learning to install Linux will make you understand von Neumann architecture
>>53626779
Hahahahah. Nice meme, sir.
>>53626779
>I know how to USE flags, can I have my CS degree now please?
>>53626779
install arch you dumb fuck
stop using this fucking gui shit
learn how to use your system
and understand how the fucking installer works you fucking tryhard neckbeards
>>53626549
>ftw RMS slurping tea on 500% volume
>>53626871
Are you aroused?
>>53627136
>not being aroused by RMS
What are you doing with your life?
>>53626549
>an unauthorized copy of windows is almost as nasty as an authorized copy of windows
this
>>53622535
>all these [GOG] wine games with "linux" written near it
Some people say Jack of all trades master in none. Is Linux really something worth learning? We have a linux server at work running Ubuntu and I'm not really sure why. Also I'm not sure if you guys have noticed the order screens at McDonalds are run using non free software and they're always working and running perfectly fine meanwhile the Televisions at Carls Jr./ Hardees are run using Fedora Linux and they're always broken, I think this is a message god is trying to tell me.
>>53627269
>I think this is a message god is trying to tell me.
>>>/TempleOS/
>>53622558
So modify the environment of a running, non-terminal program? Hmm, maybe something with gdb and /proc/pid/environ will check when I get to a pc
>>53627269
Fedora is not FSF approved.
>>53627335
What? Why? They don't have nonfree repos.
>>53627269
pic related
>>53627371
they use a kernel with non-free drivers.
>>53623063
Use sudo you Muppet
>>53627386
Fucking hell m8. None of the popular distros, such as Debripian, Ubanto, Arsch, Gentoo, The Tippers, openSuzy, are FSF approved.
>>53624262
>>53624285
>>53624301
>>53624326
>this desperate shilling
>>53627498
and for good reason. it would make the FSF hypocritical. and approved=/=endorsed
>>53627545
dumb frogposter
>>53627498
They have a list on their site of FSF approved but that doesn't mean anything since you have to build programs literally from scratch and even then they aren't susceptible to crashes.
Is there a good music tag editor for linux which can fetch tags from the internet similiar to musicbee?
How would I go about getting a linux desktop looking like windows xp? I want my father to try something new but he wont let go of his xp machine he's had for eons.
>>53622650
maybe a corrupt history file?
>>53627747
musicbrainz picard, puddletag and beets
>>53627749
i would ask this in a desktop thread, it's the only thing the people there are good for.
>>53627749
Maybe you should just leave him with XP. Don't forget, if shit goes south, you're going to be held responsible.
>>53627759
thank you!
>>53627749
Can't teach an old dog new tricks. Show him this message maybe he might feel some shame and try something new on his own.
http://pastebin.com/raw/DwJ8491q
anyone know what this meta-meta shit is on the weechat config file? What keys are those? I just wanna scroll.
>>53627749
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/XPLuna?content=83797
>>53627749
You should install cinnamon and use the xp theme.
>>53627876
meta is usually the ALT key
also, why don't you just fucking change the hotkey to something you like?
>>53627876
Meta is probably alt. Meta2 might be super.
Newly installed applications aren't appearing in my Mint's main menu and I can't seem to find them through the terminal either, even though they're listed as installed under the software manager. What gives?
Installed Fedora. No idea how to do anything. sudo is not what I am looking to do, it is "dnf" now. Ontop of that, I don't know how to be root when I use the terminal. I'm dumb /FLT/, help. :(
>>53627905
Check if they have .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/
>can't seem to find them through the terminal either
Do you mean you can't launch them by typing their name? Make sure you know the name of the binary.
>>53627912
yum and dnf are practically the same thing, just a couple different defaults. I don't understand why you need root.$ sudo <whatever>works fine
>>53627863
Nice!
>>53627934
No .desktop files. What do you mean name of the binary?
>>53627966
Fedora doesn't put the user in the sudo group by default so sudo probably doesn't work for him. In which case, unless he's an admin, he should use su.
For example:
su
(Insert password)
dnf install gimp
>>53627371
>>53627386
Somewhat simplified. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#Binary_Firmware
How much gb are enogh for casual linux use on dual boot ?
I was thinking of 30 gb + 4 gb swap ( having 16 gb ram )
>>53628064
THis is what I needed. THank you. :D
>>53627966
THis also explained some more things for me, yeah. Thanks.
>>53628064
It does if you don't set a root password during installation.
So, due to being 3rd world and my PSU blowing out, I am now relegated to a cheap laptop from 2010. Its pretty slow, and the main bottleneck appears to be the CPU, followed by the HD write speed.
I am on arch, and so far I have:
>Set the governor to "performance"
>Removed all power management
>Place my browser cache and profile into TMPFS
>Installed the linux-ck optimized packages for my CPU (core2)
>Enabled BFQ
>Enabled Hardware acceleration where possible through vaapi
>Use LXQT with Openbox
>Since 2 core, use IRQbalance
Is there anything else that I can do?
This has already improved performance significantly.
>>53628041
There aren't .desktop files in that directory? In that case they won't show up in the menus.
>What do you mean name of the binary?
Installing Firefox, will put a binary file called firefox, usually in /usr/bin. That directory is in your $PATH, so you can just type firefox in your terminal and launch it. Make sure that you know the application's name; utilize tab completion while in your terminal. Also make sure that it is actually installed. Check the output of dpkg -l | grep "name of what you installed".
>>53627901
because I wanted to see if I liked the original set-up first. thx though
>>53628102
Why would you not set your root password?
My system won't boot and freezes unless I pick the fallback initramfs
Google tells me it's an issue with my kernel but it won't tell me anything else, should I be trying to fix it or rebuild a new one or what?
>>53628099
You're welcome. Also do 'man dnf' and read it thoroughly
>>53628371
I'll read it so thoroughly, Anon. ;^)
>>53628216
I like keeping root stuff to the root user on my server, but on my personal computers I'll just use sudo anyway, so seems redundant.
>>53628216
So no one can log in as root?
>>53628064
>Fedora doesn't put the user in the sudo group by default
I must have totally forgot about this, thanks for the correction.
>>53628216
I can't think of a reason to give the root user a password these days.
>>53628091
sounds fine but why swap if you have 16gb of ram?
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Is there a way for me to put the ubuntu logo instead of "activities" in gnome?
