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WHO /WAITINGFORPASCAL/ HERE?!
I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT TO UPGRADE
>7.5
>>53615922
I'm so hyped....... Fucking can't wait.
>>53615922
>7.5
I want to move to 4K so I might upgrade my from 980.
>>53615970
>3.5K
Oh great another gaymen card thread bringing out the /v/ in all of you fucking faggots
>>53615922
This + HTC Vive.
>Yes
>Worth the weight
What games do you even need a Pascal card for?
A R9 290 can max out anything out today and in the foreseeable future.
I really want one, I feel like my 760 is useless compared to it.
>>53615922
it's like 4 month away dude
>>53615979
cry me a river.
>>53616109
>that forced reddit 290 meme
Meanwhile at Nvidia counting class:
1, 2, 3, 3.5, 5, 6, 7, 7.5, 9, 10
>>53615922
I'm waiting for Polaris and Zen.
>>53616109
At what resolution and frame rate?
Yeah I'm hyped. Nvidia have such a tight hold on the market you'd honestly be stupid not to go team green. Hopefully the new cards are good but apparently they're not focusing on raw performance yet as they're still optimizing for the die size. We'll probably see cards that are only 10% more powerful than their 9×× series equivalent but with 50% better power consumption and heat output.
>>53616431
Would you rather have 3.5 or 3? They can eiher ged rid of that entire segment of memory or just off the 512mb? Ive had my 970 for a year and it wont cause an issue unless you uninstall the drivers. Get a 390 if you have a problem with it, it doesnt matter its videogames
>>53616109
It shits the bed in Hitman
>>53617077
They advertised 4. I want 4. I'll just skip the drama and buy AMD instead.
>>53617075
>Nvidia have such a tight hold on the market you'd honestly be stupid not to go team green.
which is why beats are the best headphones
HBM, pascal, whatever.
Let the benchmarks speak for themselves.
The same thing happens every generation
Brand X comes out with Product ZXC
Product ZXC BTFO's competitors product ABC at the same price point
To stay competitive without a new product competitor lowers prices on most of their products.
>>53616431
>>53617077
I don't get it.
It's not about total memory, its about the speed of the memory.
Polaris > Pascal
fite me
>>53617077
But why is it not 4? Why did they ditch those 512mb? [spoiler]i do plan on buying 390[/spoiler]
>>53617742
>390 housefire
>ever
>>53617075
>Nvidia have such a tight hold on the market you'd honestly be stupid not to go team green
Fanboy logic at it's finest.
>>53617499
>which is why beats are the best headphones
This is a stupid analogy. Nvidia aren't market leaders because they're cheap and flashy. They're there because their cards have been objectively better over the last few years even if they are more expensive than the competition. 82% of all graphics card users won't have bought a more expensive product for the sake of it, they'd have evaluated their options and made a decision based on that and by looking and nvidias humongous market share they're obviously the better choice.
>>53617879
>not being a contrarian permavirgin
>>53617879
a better analog would be
>beats says its headphones weigh 200 grams
>you take them apart and find 40 gram weights inside
The numbers are made up, but it is a true story
>>53615922
Pascal makes me horny.
>>53617792
>f-fanboy l-logic
>s-stop saying the t-truth
Nigga hush yourself. I've never been a fanboy for either side. I even still have an older amd card in my rendering machine. Stop getting ass blasted over the simple fact nvidia is currently better than amd in terms of literally everything.
>>53617946
I tell people to look at benchmarks of the games they will most likely play and get a video card within their budget that benchmarks well.
There probably wont be a king of all games type video card unless you want to spend nearly $1000, but if you want to play a lot of Witcher or COD or some shit, im sure you could find something.
>>53617742
There's an error accessing the L2 cache. It's there, but somewhere along in the driver they fucked up. It's there, you can access it, but that last 512mb will be quite slow. So it is still 4gb.
>>53616187
Did somebody say CrimeaRiver :^)
I am back
>>53617879
>last few years
2008-2009 the AMD equivalents used less power and were tiny compared to the Nvidia equivalent, but Nvidia had tip top best performance outside of multi-GPU, where AMD scaled better
2009-2011 was the same story, but even worse for Nvidia
2012-2013 they were at a total dead heat, with power consumption and performance nearly equal
late 2014 with GM204 was only when Nvidia made a product that was objectively better, the 980; the 970 as we know has massive issues, the 960 is dogshit.
2015 with Fiji and GM200 is a near dead heat with performance, while being competitive with power usage again
Now the funny thing is those 2012-2013 cards now hilariously spank their launch equivalents. Anyone who bought a 2500K / HD7970 system in early 2012 is laughing.
>>100 rupees have been deposited into your account
7.5
>>53617742
it's a defect binning thing.
L2 cache is one of the most likely parts to have a critical transistor defect, so Maxwell they got the idea of bypassing GDDR5 accesses through adjacent L2 block.
this is one of those things that sounds like a good idea at first but is really fucking stupid on closer examination. dividing a cache block's responsibilities just makes requests miss all the time, tanking performance.
The only solution is to use driver to attempt to not use the re-routed 0.5GB memory segment pretty much at all. It's still there, the card can still store to/load from it, but it's generally so bad to try to access it that a program pretty much shouldn't even try.
It looks like for Pascal's 7.5GB rumors that Nvidia isn't even going to try with their dumb hack this time.
>>53617077
>Would you rather have 3.5 or 3?
that's a false dichotomy you retard.
there's no reason Nvidia couldn't have just used L2 segments attached to 32b GDDR5 controllers instead of pairs of L2 segments attached to semi-split 64b controllers.
in fact, I would strongly suspect that's exactly what Pascal is doing if Nvidia is abandoning their dirty Maxwell hack.
I just want to render tits faster.
>>53618151
look at this guy, he has it all figured out! good thing you saw that infographic on how to spot shills!
No idea how this compares to current cards. Will the first card be a top tier 980ti replacement or something more mid range with spec/price?
>>53615922
>consumer culture
I bet you mouth-breathers criticise applefags too
>>53618008
Do we have any solid information on the next Titan X/flagship class card?
>>53615922
Waitfags are probably going to regret it this time.
>>53620033
Q1 2017 for AMD, likely the same for Nvidia, given the testing equipment for it was spotted shipping out late february, meaning it taped out for the first time this month.
>>53615922
Does it require a new motherboard?
>>53621533
Has it ever since PCIe? Are you new?
>>53616109
I want a GPU not a space heater.
>>53621869
pcie 4.0 wont be backwards compatible
>>53615922
>waiting for Pascal instead of Polaris
It's like you want to be jewed
>>53622356
pinching shekels for amd, it's like you ARE the jew.
>>53615922
For what purpose? There are no games to take advantage of it.
>>53622356
yeah boy polaris will be masterrace
>>53615922
How much will it cost? Any approximate figures? I might get a lower-end one, gaming on 1080p and upgrading from a 950 just for shits & giggles.
I've been so far gone from PC gaming Ido where to even start.
Can you people run Crysis at max settings yet?
>>53624413
No, we cant
>have 560 Ti
>it's not cutting anymore
>"wait, 22nm Maxwell is near"
>no 22nm, scrapped
>wait for 16nm
>Pascal leaks seem disappointing
>Volta is too far away
I should've bought vapor-x 290X two years ago and called it a day.
>>53624762
You can still get one for dirt cheap.
>>53624799
AMD is way overpriced in EU for some reason. Cheapest Tri-X is 337 EU shekels, cheapest Vapor-X is 392 EU shekels.
At this point I might as well wait for Zen/Polaris/Pascal/Skylake-E and do a completely new build this summer/fall. I have a 4790k and a 3770k, and even between them I need moar coars for rendering. Gaming is secondary.
>>53616458
upboat :-)
>>53624413
Yes and no. Yes we can run crysis at what was consided 'max' back in 2009, but the max setting has increased. 4K crysis? Don't think so.
Just buy now. Waiting... is okay if you already have something good but if you've been out since 2009 just buy whatever is good today.
Since whatever comes out is going to be PRICED relative to its performance. So if it performs 50% better it's going to cost like 45% more
>>53624762
but once you get to 1440p 144hz its not enough anyways. i even went and bought a second one and it still was underwhelming.
should i get a second 780 or sell my 780 and get whatever the pascal with the number 8 in it would be called?
i remember someone saying you should upgrade every two architectures
i'm at kepler, there was maxwell, and now pascal is coming out
>>53625055
>144Hz
I don't play twitch shooters anymore. All my screens are 60Hz IPS. Did getba 4k screen a couple of months tho.
>>53625081
sell and get a pascal, I doubt most games will support sLI anyway.
It's just another 980ti why the fuck should anyone care?
the only selling point I can see is:
>half sized pcb's similar to r9 nano
>much less power consumption
Both of those things are NOT justifiable reasons for people looking to game.
>>53617077
I'd rather have 4 instead of 3.5.
Checkmate
>>53617879
>market share
The more people who use it, the better it is. ALWAYS pick masses over individual thought.
Dolt.
>>53617879
no one cares about market share you dumb faggot they only care about how well the gpu works
>>53625055
If Pascal/Polaris (the ones releasing this year, in the summer) aren't "enough" for 1440p/144hz in more demanding games I'll consider them failures.
>>53627579
144 stable fps is kind of very very hard to do
ME, holding off on finishing my build.
>>53627579
I'd take 90 fps at 1080p x2.
>>53615922
i5 4690k and 970 owner here.
can't wait to buy the highest end polaris card then replace my i5 with an 8core zen chip
fuck Nvidia and their dog shit.
>>53628023
>highest end polaris card
>8core zen chip
You mean Vega and Summit Ridge
>7.5GB
>>53616379
>>53622332
Sapphire vapor x has excellent temps and can oc pretty well. The 390 nitro is even better.
>tfw getting a R9 390X next week
nvidia = lies and deceit. I don't even care that this fucker replaces my central heating, at least it works as promised.
>>53628286
Until the drivers kill it.
>>53628286
>>53628240
>>53628177
>>53628023
>>53626783
>>53626772
>>53626759
Get a job.
>>53627579
1440p@144fps is the same pixel fill rate as UHD@64fps.
you are not going to get what you want from 2016 non-enthusiast cards, sorry.
they won't have HBM or even likely GDDR5X, and 230mm^2 to 300mm^2 puts that at Fiji/980Ti territory at best.
>>53628177
7.5GB is a shit-load better than flaky "8"GB.
At least the yellow kikes don't appear to be planning fraud this time.
>>53628286
Should have waited for Polaris
>>53628393
I need something right now to replace my Intel HD Graphics Technology delivering rich visuals for new experiences all without a graphics card. I can't wait another 6 months.
>>53628437
It's getting announced officially next month and will be released May/June
when does the 970 equivalent come out?
>>53615937
oh just fucking shut up with the .5 shit. It's getting old
>>53615922
>7.5 gbs
>>53615922
780ti and 2500k owner here.
Honestly, Nvidia products have been great in the past, but I can't wait to move away from these fuckers.
Just the way they flat out lied about the 970 specs, Nvidia gameworks which is fucking horrible and lots of other shitty stuff just makes me not want to buy their shit anymore.
The same go's for intel, who's been milking the market with marginal updates each year because the competition was so shit.
I honestly hope Polaris and Zen will be a homerun so I can get away from these greedy lying companies.
>>53628483
>>53628463
Its already out. The 380x
>>53617077
As someone else stated, that's a false dichotomy. They could have been up front about it and just said that it was 3.5. They could have just left that last half gig out of the picture entirely and saved some money.
>>53628560
I'm just wondering why you AMD tards were so desperate to find something to spite nvidia with that you just latched onto the 3.5 meme until it got boring and refused to just give it up.
Everyone else just ignored it and got on with their lives.
>reference cooler
>complains about temps
Been holding off replacing my 6950 until something decent comes out, hopefully these won't be shit.
>>53628557
I haven't seen that image in years
>>53628557
Not so sure about polaris or zen desu
Hbm 2 might not come until 2017 because amd wants to polish the technology rather than a hasty release like wirh hbm 1
If we are lucky zen will boost single core performance to be on par to a gen 2 or 3 i5
Sticking with my vapor x and i5 4690k until further notice
>>53628483
nah itll get old face it
>tfw 660
>tfw literally no reason to upgrade
hurts my consumerist heart
>waiting
>not getting a GTX 970 for $280 then re-selling it for $250 when pascal comes
>>53626659
You mean people that don't pay rent or electricity bills, and don't want to buy new PC cases for high end GPU's.. Right.
>>53628699
HBM2 is literally externally identical to HBM1 except for additionally supporting 1.6GHz and 2GHz transfer rates.
That's not the problem for HBM.
It's that the memory modules are stacks of 2Gb/8Gb DRAMs with microscopic layer-to-layer wiring that's apparently quite hard not to fuck up the manufacturing of.
AMD could have used high-density, lower clocked HBM2 stacks at any point earlier this year if they actually existed in volume.
mid-to-low tier Pascal cards when?
>>53615922
Nope just ordered a r9 390 to replace my gtx680
>>53615922
not waiting because my gtx 660 is still more than enough
>>53628815
different anon here. I pay mortgage and my electricity bills - I consider power draw from my gpu really small factor in the big picture. My pc draws 60W generally, and when I game it can draw bit more, but I don't game more than max few hours a day. Using online calculators from my electric company I calculated that if I use 200W more electricity for two hours a day every day a year I'd pay under 25e for this premium. Dude, that's like five cups of coffee from starbucks or two beers at a pub.
That's really cheap
>>53629087
I ordered an r9 nano yesterday
pumped
>>53628868
does HBM2 solve the issues of 4K at 4gb tho
>>53629158
HBM2 will have way higher memory density, so no more lol4GB arguments. The picture says 8GB per stack, versus 1GB per stack for HBM1.
>>53629138
I would buy a nano, but the fury X is practically the same size and the same cost
if they want to get people to buy the thing they need to make some changes
>decrease the price point
>make it a single slot card
>move the power input to the top of the card not the back
>use the same materials as the furyx instead of plastic
>muh red leds
>8gb HBM2 polaris
hopefully the R9 Pico will be like this
>>53629183
I mean will 4gbs be enough for 4k with HBM2
they promised it would be with HBM and it was only barely enough for most games
>>53629265
Seeing as how HBM2 is supposed to have even more bandwidth than HBM1, I'd say it has a pretty decent chance of solving the 4K at 4GB issues.
And if it doesn't, there will be cards with more VRAM anyway.
>>53628699
HBM2 while nice, isn't the most important part about polaris, the die shrink and new architectural changes will be the most significant part.
Besides, Nvidia won't have HBM2 either, AMD can still use HBM1.
Watch this video for a guy who does really analysis on Polaris vs Pascal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ7VCOgMZ9I
>>53629265
>I would buy a nano, but the fury X is practically the same size and the same cost
I ordered my nano for $360, Fury x is atleast $200 more expensive. I was thinking about getting a watercooling system and a waterblock for my r9 nano, but we'll see.
I had to replace my gpu now because I'm getting a VR headset in coming weeks.. couldn't wait for pascal/polaris.
Amd unveiling radeon pro and nvidia being pretty silent as well made me stop waiting. It looks like 14/16nm is not happening fast enough.
I'll get another $500 card next year and sell my nano if there's going to be some relevant gpus on the market
>>53615922
As a Kepler owner, I learned my lesson about the long-term value of Nvidia cards, so no Pascal for me.
I expect to begrudgingly buy an 8GB GDDR5 Radeon 480X or whatever the higher range card coming out this summer gets called.
I was hoping that HBM2 would be out and I could just get a 8GB Fury X^2, but it looks like those plans are out the window.
>>53628347
Then honestly, why even bother waiting? I could just get a 980ti or save a shitload by going with a 390 (not a big fan of the 390's heat but that can be mitigated).
Has Nvidia addressed the async compute issue? Or is it just business as usual?
>>53629634
lower power, cheaper, extra features like h.265 acceleration and more advanced output support?
I skipped the 390/Fury/Nano because of no HDMI 2.0/DP 1.3 and I wanted a card that could output at least older content to UHD@120Hz displays coming out at the end of this year.
>>53629630
I'm also thinking more and more about picking up crossfire two of the new polaris 10 cards.
With the die shrink, power efficiency should be much better making this more an option.
I don't know how big of an issue frametimes and drivers still are with cf though
>>53616120
I feel it my 760 brother
>>53629634
pretty sure non-stock 390s don't have that much of a heat issue
the stock 290 is where most of the house fires came from, and that was decently tackled by sapphire with the vapor X cooler
390 was a refresh and apparently AMD addressed some of the heat issues, add on a nice sapphire cooler and the temps should be no issue
>>53629692
they made a driver hack that can fake support, but actually using it will always lower performance.
async compute is just a hardware performance optimization, but Nvidia has preferred doing optimizations manually in software since basically forever. It's pretty dubious whether Nvidia will even support it in Pascal, since it's a 180 of their usual approach.
I expect that they're continue their TWIMTBP approach and just keep getting devs to give them early access to shader code so they can manually tweak pre-compiled versions for Pascal (sorry Maxwell bros, you're gonna get fucked quite soon).
>>53629725
you ever had a crossfire or sli before?
I really really feel that one $600 card is 4/5 times better decision than two $300 cards.
Well vulkan and dx12 could change this, but still. I have my doubts
>>53629725
Crossfire and SLI are gonna die with Polaris, Pascal, and DX12/Vulkan.
The new way of doing things is letting the game/engine dev do everything manually and pray that they implement multi-GPU rendering for the games you have/want.
>>53629798
I haven't, but my idea is that most people who hate on it are often people who haven't actualy tested it but just want to confirm their own choice for going with single gpu's.
In most benchmarks I actualy see CF and SLI setups scale very well (anywhere from 50% up to 80% more performance over a single card)
Which often makes it the cheaper option over more expensive high end cards that offer maybe 30% more performance for almost double the price.
>>53629853
true but in some cases they simply aren't supported and then you're stuck with the performance of a single card while the other one is useless for you.
>>53629853
>In most benchmarks I actualy see CF and SLI setups scale very well (anywhere from 50% up to 80% more performance over a single card)
Possible when they work. When they have driver support for a game. When game takes advantage of having two cards.
This happens more than one could imagine at first. Developers don't really give a shit of 0.05% of gamers who happen to have two (or more) gpus.
>>53616109
>2 year old card can blow any new card away fo sho
how
>>53615922
>WHO /WAITINGFORPASCAL/ HERE?!
gamer faggots
>>53629948
that's why AMD is pushing APIs and vulkin
so that multi GPUs are actually supported in games and the garbage that is the SLI bridge finally dies
So how much are we predicting pascal to stomp polaris by? Batterygate already confirms samsungs 14nm process is shit compared to tsmc's 16nm process.
I'll say top end polaris = 10% faster than a 980 ti
Midrange pascal = 20% faster than 980 ti
>>53615922
>already have gaming pc
>7.5
>>53630015
>batterygate
source
>>53630075
http://bgr.com/2015/10/08/iphone-6s-a9-processor-samsung-tsmc-batterygate/
>>53624913
Buy a used one. I got my Tri-x for 170 euro.
>>53628557
>The same go's for intel, who's been milking the market with marginal updates each year because the competition was so shit.
Buy an extreme socket processor if you want real upgrades.
>>53628597
>ignoring hardware flaws
sure is nvidia in here
>>53628597
>I'd rather take the gimped product because of the brand.
>>53629447
where the fuck did you get a nano for 360usd?
>mfw pascal rapes amd poorfags to oblivion
>>53630303
If the gimped product still performs better, then yes.
>>53630386
It's inevitable
See >>53630122
Amd will continue their trend of selling hot and power hungry cards that perform significantly worse than the competition.
>>53628437
are those visuals so rich? i mean can those visual keep up with new experiences?
Need a opinion:
Been slowly working on a build for a friend. It is more or less done (Been done for several months, was waiting for them to get a desk and monitor/mouse/keyboard), but we decided to replace the 750 Ti that was bought several months ago with a newer card.
Said person has a budget of around $200 bucks (and even that is stretching it), and we were looking at the GTX 950 or 960. We are also doing a few side things as well with the PC so it will probably be a month or two before they can afford everything. Should we wait for Pascal for price drops or just go ahead with the 950 or 960?
>>53630508
You should get a 380 if you want it NOW, or wait for a bit to see what happens.
>>53615922
Learn not to caps lock maybe?
Also Polaris is the next logical upgrade, i would prefer it over GDDR5X based VRAM any day. If you want a current upgrade go with an R9 390-390X, those cards will last, I personally use a sapphire one to run all games at 4K 60+ Frames Per Second. Reply to this comment if you agree /g/.
>>53616431
The 580 had 1,5 gb
>>53630508
Make a used build. Forget the 950 and 960. You can buy a used 780 for around that price point and it's a good performer. It gets you just under 970 performance whereas a 950 or 960 will be significantly worse than a 970 or 780.
>>53630508
are you straight up ignoring the 380 and polaris?
>>53630604
Obviously, nobody wants housefires.
>>53630604
Nah, 380 is on the table as well and was actually one of the cards we were looking as as well, although I am admittedly out of the loop as far as AMD cards are concerned.
>>53630015
>Midrange pascal = 20% faster than 980 ti
That's not how the graphics card market works
Also daily reminder that Maxlel was as hotly anticipated as Pascal is
>>53630604
No one cares about the 380. It's more expensive than the 960, unless you live in some shithole like the usa, and gives similar performance.
>>53630615
good thing you're safe from that since your memes aren't very hot
>>53630697
>unless you live in some shithole like the usa
or west europe.
3rd world scum please leave.
>>53617309
>buy AMD instead
k e k, AMD comes with a far greater set of problems. the 390 is not a valid competitor to the 970.
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=398858
When did non whole numbers of VRAM become a bad thing? Up until Maxwell cards have had X.Y amount of RAM. I understand the 970's case is unique, but a decimal is not a bad thing. Think back to Fermi. GTX 470 - 1280MB VRAM
GTX 480 - 1536 MB.
At the time it's competitor (5000 series) had 1024MB configurations.
>>53619421
>this is one of those things that sounds like a good idea at first but is really fucking stupid on closer examination.
it's marketing. selling a card as '3.5gb' would sound and be retarded, for all intents and purposes the 970 really only has 3.5gb of vram as you need to work with nvidia to optimize your game (aka be a AAA dev or be contracted via goyimworks) for them to enable the last 512mb segment for you in a game ready driver update.
>>53630817
the 660ti had a similar issue (only 1.5gb was quickly accessible) but nobody batted an eye at the time because it wasn't hip to hate nvidia.
>>53629115
wtf is 25e
>>53630854
that's because 4 years ago nobody was hitting even 2GB because there were no ports from 8th gen consoles (8GB shared gfx/system RAM) and because 4k gaming didn't really exist yet.
even skyrim had barely come out and retardedly bloated mods for it didn't exist yet either.
>>53615922
>tfw upgraded old PC recently
>want to make a cutting edge meme build when these drop just because it's fun
Maybe when 4k 120fps is the standard and not a meme I can experience joy again.
>GPU broke a year ago
>monitor is 1680x1050, not even 1080p, and 60fps
>pre-botnet intel CPU
>500GB seagate HDD from 10 years ago
>chair falling apart
>shit case with no filtering and constant fan rattling, had to stick a piece of metal to push the fan back
>shit mobo with via audio
>headphones wire almost completely exposed from wear
>right ear completely dead
I'm gonna have a blast upgrading everything at once. I also would like a UPS because electricity where I live is flaky as shit. Something that lasts just a couple of minutes so I can hibernate safely. Any recs?
Also thinking of getting a mobo with igpu so I can dedicate the gpu to a VM with passthrough. I hear AMD cards have less overhead when passthrough'd, is that true? Intel igpus can be used without any proprietary drivers or firmware, right?
>>53631518
25 euros amerifat
>>53632079
I'm European that's why I know how to use the € sign, dumbass.
And where the fuck do you pay €12 for a pint of beer?
>>53632079
>25e
>less than 25 beers
>less than 20 coffees
At least pretend you know what you're talking about.
>>53615922
Pascal came out decades ago, OP.
>>53617075
popular =/= better
also >3.5gb meme
Nvidya nebr agin
>>53615922
there will be no pascal before polaris and maybe not even before vega. i think nvidia fucks up this time.. with everything
>>53617075
Jesus Christ the shill is obvious in this one.
>>53622332
Shouldn't have got an xfx cooler then
>>53629115
In most of the US it equates to a small handful pennies a month. The TDP argument is retarded here, unless you mean for heat reasons. And again, electricity is so cheap, can just crank the ac. Although that does eat much more.
>>53632134
they are not taking about typed based computing freetard its the GPU
>free DUMB software for TARDS
also Nvidia doesn't usually care about freetards in general.
>>53632325
IN NZ TDP is the difference of 10 Bucks to 80 dollars but then we don't have Nuclear energy or the population to make power cheaper :(
>>53615922
How will the release affect the price of the 970/980, and to what extent?
>>53628240
Just because better GPU temps doesn't mean it's pumping less heat out.
Laws of thermodynamics motherfucker
>>53632266
Vega won't be out until 2017, Pascal cards will be out by then
Cops took my old computer (i5-3570k/GTX 660ti) cause a housemate of mine had CP so they took all the computers in the house. I built my current computer, then sold off the old computer when the cops gave it back.
While I'm working over the summer, I'm planning on saving for a new GPU whenever the fuck Nvidia and AMD put out Pascal and Polaris cards as well as maybe a Vive. If all goes well I'll have that and maybe make a cheap and memey mATX lan computer with the 660ti and an i3-6100 or something, otherwise the 660ti is just gonna replace my GTX 460 as my utility card.
I'm also looking over craigslist and EVGA b-stock to see if I can nab another 660ti for cheap. Anyone know where somewhere else I could look?
>>53634757
just wait for the cops to give it back dumbass
This thread brought to you by Nvidia ͭͭͫ The way you're meant to be cucked!
>>53634790
Uh, I already got it back. Cops took it over the summer and it was returned to me about a month ago. I spent about a month playing whatever the i5 in my laptop could handle (mostly Diablo 3 on toaster settings). Once I found out I couldn't get my computer back until the trial/sentencing, I built that desktop sans the 660ti, SSD, and the Barracuda, which were all from the old computer.
I put the 960 I bought into the old computer before I sold it.
should I just sell my 390 and buy a 960 if I only really play CSGO? also I fucking hate the problems I've had since I got this car.
>>53635059
card*
>>53635059
>should I sell my 900fps 4k ultrahigh settings (tm) card for a 10fps 720p medium settings card???
Yes, yes you should.
>>53635059
Yeah if you only play cs go then there's no point in having a steaming hot and power hungry card. The 960 is the safe bet.
>>53635059
>the problems
Let me guess, random black screens, driver crashes and random error message popups?
All part of the AMDPOORFAG life.
>>53635403
all of its true lmao. i am kinda worried another part of my pc is fucked tho. I keep getting fucking errors I don't understand when Playing certain games.
>>53635600
You're doing something wrong, even with a 960 you'll encounter problems because GPUs aren't retarded proof
>>53636062
My drivers crash 3 times a fucking day despite being up to date. That's completely up to me being retarded, alright.
>>53636328
Either you didn't do a clean install of those new drivers or you have a defective GPU or something else in your pc, which is something that happens with both brands and are covered by warranty. The fact that you want to sell a possibly defective card instead of trying and isolate the problem to solve it tells me yes you're at least a tiny bit retarded
>>53635059
A r9 390 can barely hit 144fps in CSGO at max settings at 1080p
Why would you downgrade your card when your current card barely does the job?
>>53636374
No one plays CSGO max settings you fucking tard.
>>53636328
Don't listen to these asswipes. Amd cards are shit when it comes to drivers. My friend has a 390 like you and he is constantly encountering driver problems. He does alot of 3d rendering and amd are so shitty that none of their recent drivers work with the software he uses so he has to downgrade to some 2 year old driver but then that fucks with his game performance. Just go with nvidia and you'll never have any of these shitty and unnecessary problems.
It's to be expected that amd users will call you retarded so don't take it hard. They blame anyone but the cancer that is amd.
you guys ready for your maxwell cards to become obsolete once pascal is out? i imagine the 980TI is going to run VXGI like shit, can't wait to see all the nvidiacucks crying.
but hey lets just keep supporting nvidia right?
>>53636691
$0.15 fue depositado en su acuenta
>>53636367
>have uninstalled and reinstalled drivers 2 times
>still shit
ive even restored windows
>>53636813
Sell that shit asap before pascal comes out and the gtx 1050 starts outperforming it and it loses what little value it has.
>>53636746
It's pretty common knowledge that AMD falls far behind in performance when it comes to professional software when compared to Intel/Nvidia.
I trade beer with a dude that works at Nvidya but he won't budge on Pascal infos.
>>53629377
Couldn't understand a fucking word this guy said.
Worth upgrading to Pascal from this? Was thinking of getting an X99/980Ti system as well...
>>53629377
>adoredtv
Lol I put this bitch down for being a fanboy and he never bothered to reply back after I dug his grave for him. He thought he was all clever with his first reply then I put him and all his lies in the fucking ground. Fucking biased amd shill.
>>53616109
I've two and that statement is false unless you're okay with dips down to 40 fps.
>>53636691
That's funny Because just two weeks ago Nvidia put out some shit drivers that crashed every game and it was funny to watch my friend try to fix it.
>>53636414
I do. On a oc 8gb 290x and 2500k it still averages 130-50 at 1440.
>>53638768
>b-but nvidia
Nigga hush. Amd owners have no friends.
>>53636414
I hit over 300 fps at 4k with my oc 980 and everything maxed
>>53638788
I use 2x or 4x AA I cant remember which that's the only thing that isn't all the way. If it's at 8x I won't have that 140 avg sweet spot It's a bit below.
>>53625081
wait for pascal. I bought my first 780 back a few months after it launched and after the first price cut. Then my second last year on craigslist for 200. I have them as overclocked as I can push them but they're beginning to show their age. at 1440p the pair choke in a few newer games. 3GB simply isnt enough if you want higher than medium texture settings with AA in most new games.
>>53638864
How is one of them as a budget solution for 1080p? You can get one for the price of a 960/380 here.
>>53630366
>where the fuck did you get a nano for 360usd?
I made a currency conversion to usd from my local equivalent.
It was a good deal and they're all gone already (for once, not an US deal). Also I run my own company so I deduct taxes from products which I buy for my company. Alas, after tax reductions, that's what I pay for it.
Also free shipping
>>53622332
everytime i hear the word space heater i think of a heater that's in space
Gave up waiting a few days ago desu
>>53640166
>840$
get britcucked
>>53640166
> buying 980ti in 2016
> for £600
whoa, nelly
>>53640204
How much would it be over there?
>nigvidya
>>53640218
$600 probably
>>53640218
>>53640215
Waiting an extra 20 weeks to spend £100 less on a 10% performance gain wasn't really worth it tbqh. Keep thinking that everybody's in the same situation as you, though
>>53640230
>>53640238
Gotta love VAT
>>53640260
>Gotta love VAT
Well, truth to be told, VAT is one of those things you don't necessary have to pay if you really really don't want to. One has to ponder oneself if he wants to support society or not.
>>53640260
>Waiting an extra 20 weeks to spend £100 less on a 10% performance gain wasn't really worth it tbqh. Keep thinking that everybody's in the same situation as you, though
oh I'm this one >>53629447, I had to get a new GPU now. I thought long and hard getting a 980ti, as well. Decided on R9 nano instead.
Dude I fucking hate technology. Every time I'm about to buy a whole new setup, there some super amazing shit coming out in a few months that will drop prices. Like, I can never get brake. Do I seriously have to wait until fucking summer, and possibly even fall? Holy shit.
>>53640327
Oh, OK. Yeah, I didn't really look too much at AMD's offerings desu because of the stuff I saw in Digital Foundry's videos and DX11 benchmarks (I still play lots of 'old' games).
AMD's talk the other week made me lose most of my excitement for Polaris 10 and Nvidia seem to just be readying a mid-end 1080, so I'm not interested Pascal either. Hope I can wait on my Ti until big 14/16nm is out this time next year, assume you'll be doing the same?
>>53640335
This pisses me off too. I was about to build me a new gaming PC but I can not take the shot because of 'Pascal' type tech on horizon with 'revolutionary' performance improvements.
>>53640406
We'll see. I'm running this gpu in a virtual machine so I'd rather get AMD's card. Nvidia cucks their drivers if they detect that they run in a VM whereas amd doesn't care.
Because of that policy and gimping their old flagships and other bully-like policies I've decided to support amd for the time being.
I will probably get a new card next year if there's going to be a solid contender worth the upgrade.
>>53636691
You're so full of shit, all of my friends have AMD cards and they don't encounter these problems
>>53617077
Everyone knows it's not an issue, but basement dwellers on /g/ love to shitpost about everything.
>>53618151
>>53616120
Fellow AMD counterpart here, r9 270 wana upgrade now
are unboxing threads allowed on /g/? Havent seen one in a while, I was thinking about making one for you guys
>>53641116
he even made a thread about it on here faggot. stop damage controlling
>>53615922
Is this subtle trolling?
OP pic is woodscrew tier, intentionally or not.
>>53629954
hello rato
Memes
>>53617077
i would rather have 3gb on the same speedbus than having the .5gig scenario.
>>53636691
>3d rendering
>on AMD card
He is using his CPU unless he is using one of the abscure 3D rendering software, OpenCL is not very well supported in this field.
basically, I'm 90% sure you are full of shit.
Will amd cards be decent on Linux by the time Polaris rolls around?
It's really tiresome to still see 28nm chips around.
The change to a smaller node will be finally realized by the end of this year.
I doubt that any decent card will launch before end of summer.
Looking to upgrade my 670 but I am unsure if my mobo can handle a pascal card. If I am changing my mobo I might want to change my CPU as well.
If you give a mouse a cookie I guess.
I am waiting for the next millenia gpu lineup
>>53642371
why on earth would a mobo that can accept a 670 have any issue with a newer GPU?
modern cards draw nowhere near the maximum allowed power off the PCIe bus, and PCIe bandwidth has virtually zero bearing on game performance.
>>53630447
>If
That's the keyword here, if, it did perform better
>Buying Nvidia after the 3.5 debacle.
>Buying Nvidia when they gimp older cards with drivers.
>Buying Nvidia when they want to make games exclusive to their GPUS
Good Goys :)
>upgrading go 28nm early Pascal
Retards.
>>53617075
Who could this be?
>>53628483
no
>>53636746
>acuenta
google traductor caballeros
>>53615922
>gaming PC
>>>/v/
